Royal Lao Descendant
Shoua Yang
I'm conducting a project on Lao history and interested in searching a
bit on the Royal Lao Descendant. I want to know our history, leaders,
events, and descendants of the Royal Lao Family, especially the
lineage of Princes Souphanouvong, Phetsarat, Souvana Phouma, Kings
Sisvangvong, and King Sisvang Vangthana. How do they related? I
appreciate if someone recommends me a good book, explaining the
relationship of these princely leaders. Thanks!
SY
LDR
can also get a book called "Lao Lan Xang Kingdom: Rise and Decline",
it's a great book. I learn Lao history from this book, seriously. I'm
anxious to learn more.
I think Lan Xang is an expert on Lao history in SCL here. I'm sure he
can assist you further.
syan...@hotmail.com (Shoua Yang) wrote in message news:<cb5bf79d.03072...@posting.google.com>...
LanXang
ldr, I am not an expert in Lao history but a long time student of it.
Instead, it is Chaosinh Saysanom from Oregon whom I would say is very
knowledgeable about the Lao royal lineage. SY, if you want to contact
him, I can personally give you his phone number. Here, I will just
give you a general background of the three princes and King
Sisavangvong (extracted from the book 'Uparat Phetsaraj' by Maha Sila
Viravong).
The three princes and King Sisavangvong are from the line of
Luangprabang King Kingkitsaraj, then his brother King Inthasom down to
King Anouroutharaj. Then, the last one had a number of sons namely
King Manthathouraj, and Chao Ounkeo. The former was the line of King
Sisavangvong down to his son King Sisavang Vathana. The latter was the
line of the three brothers. Their father was Ouparaj Bounkong. Chao
Phetsaraj and Chao Souvanna Phouma shared the same mother (a royal
blood, a kind of first wife) while Chao Souphanouvong's mother was a
commoner and the last one of Oupharaj Bounkong's 6 wives. It happened
that Chao Souphanouvong was the 24th offspring and the last son of
Ouparaj Bounkong (about the repercussion, it is another story). By the
way, these two lines 'Vang Na'(front palace or the advance troop in
times of war) represented by the three brothers and 'Vang Lang'(rear
palace or the throne) represented by king Sisavangvongare were always
in conflict of interest since the olden days. I guess Lao history is
in a way a macroscopic arena of their power contest.
Since I don't want to go more into details and getting into more
conjecture, I would rather stop it here.
Hope that this helps a little bit.
Hakphaang,
LanXang
l...@laoclub.zzn.com (LDR) wrote in message news:<add78bdd.0307...@posting.google.com>...
Thomas Lee
the very first one. Who was he anyway? Was he part of the Royal Lao
Family Lineage?
Tom,
lan...@yahoo.com (LanXang) wrote in message news:<5656b04e.03072...@posting.google.com>...
LanXang
Tom, if you want to go back to the first one in the Lao royal family,
the legendary Khun Borom is the one. Then, his son Khun Lo who was
supposed to reign over Muang Sua (LuangPrabang). Then, it was the turn
of Chao FaNgum - the first king of the newly established LanXang
kingdom. After him, there was a lot more, before Chao Sayseythathiraj,
and finally Chao Sisavang Vathana. The royal Lao family lineage as we
know for sure is about 600 years old. Adding to the legendary one, it
will be over a thousand years old.
Hakphaang,
LanXang
lis...@lycos.com (Thomas Lee) wrote in message news:<a4647f23.03073...@posting.google.com>...
Sri Sattanakarahut
>
> Lanxang, I haven't you mention Chao Sathathirath which suppose to be
> the very first one. Who was he anyway? Was he part of the Royal Lao
> Family Lineage?
Chao Saisettathiraj was not the first king of Lan Xang. He was
the #16 king that ruled Lan Xang and yes he was one of the
descendants of Lao Royal Family. King Fa Ngum [r. 1353-1374] was
the creator and the first king of Lan Xang Kingdom known as today
Laos. King Fa Ngum was a grandson of Praya Suvanna Khampong who
ruled Muang Swua or presently Luang Prabang [r.1344-1353]. Praya
Suvanna Khampong was a son of Praya Lang who also ruled Muang
Swua [Luang Prabang, r. 1271-1316]. Praya Lang descended from
the Thao or Dhao dynasty that captured Muang Swua from the Khamue
during the Lao migration through Ou river from China believed to
be around 800 A.D. The Dhao dynasty believed to be descended
from the Ai Lao or Ai Lo who believed to be the son of Khun Lo
the seven son of Khun Burom the creator of Lao people. Confuse?
Yeah me too. Anyhow, below is a list of Kings of Lan Xang
Kingdom.
Kings of Lan Xang
Phraya Lang (r. 1271-1316?) -- Son of last king of Thao dynasty
who ruled Muang
Swua..
Suvanna Khamphong (r.1316-1344?) -- Son of Phraya Lang.
Khamhiao (r. 1344?-1353) -- Son of Suvanna Khamphong.
Fa Ngum (r. 1353-1373/74) -- Grandson of Suvanna Khamphong.
Sam Saen Tai (r. 1373/74-1416) -- Son of Fa Ngum.
Lan Kham Daeng (r.1416-1428) -- Son of Sam Saen Tai.
Phommathat (r. 1428-1429) -- Son of Lan Kham Daeng; ruled 10
months.
Khamterm (r. 1430-) -- Son of Sam Saen Tai; ruled 5 months.
Meunsai (r. 1430-) -- Son of Sam Saen Tai; ruled 6 months.
Fakhai (r.1431-1434?) -- Grandson of Sam Saen Tai.
Konkham (r. 1435-) -- Son of Sam Saen Tai; ruled 7 months.
Yukhon (r. 1436-) -- Son of Lan Kham Daeng; ruled 8 months.
Khamkoet (r. 1436-1438) -- Not of royal descent.
Maha Thevi (r. 1438-) -- Queen of Sam Saen Tai.
Interregnum (1438-1442)
Xaiyachakkaphat Phaen Phaeo (r. 1442-1479/80) -- Son of Sam Saen
Tai.
Suvanna Banlang (r. 1480-1486) -- Son of Xaiyachakkaphat.
La Saen Tai (r. 1486-1496) -- Son of Xaiyachakkaphat.
Xumphu (r. 1496-1501) -- Son of La Saen Tai.
Vixun (r. 1501 - 1520) -- Son of Xaiyachakkaphat.
Phothisarat (r. 1520-1547) -- Son of Vixun.
Xetthathirat I (r. 1548-1571) -- Son of Phothisarat.
Saen Surin (1) (r. 1571-1575) -- Not of royal descent.
Voravongsa I (r. 1575-1579) -- Son of Phothisarat.
Saen Surin (2) (r. 1580-1582) -- Not of royal descent.
Nakhon Noy (r. 1582-1583) -- Son of Saen Surin; not of royal
descent.
Burmese interregnum (1583-1591) -- Burmese ruled Lan Xang 8 yrs.
Nokhaeokuman (r. 1591-1596) -- Son of Xetthathirat.
Voravongsa II (r. 1596-1622) -- Nephew of Xetthathirat.
Upayuvarat (r. 1622-1623) -- Son of Voravongsa II
Phothisan (r. 1623-1627) -- Son or grandson of Saen Surin; not of
royal descent.
Momkaeo (r. 1627-1633) -- Son of Voravongsa II.
Vixai/Tonkham (r. 1633-1638) -- Sons of Voravongsa II; ruled
jointly?
Suriyavongsa (r.1638-1695) -- Son of Tonkham.
Phraya Meuang Chan (r. 1695) -- Not royal descent; ruled 6
months..hence..the
family members of Suriyavongsa fought for the throne and the
beginning of
splitting the Great Lan Xang Kingdom into three small kingdoms.
Natharat (r.1696-1698) -- Cousin of Suriyavongsa.
Xai Ong Ve (r. 1698-1707) -- Nephew of Suriyavongsa; ruled as
Xetthathirat II.
1707 the Great Lan Xan kingdom beginning to decline, and split
into three
kingdoms; Louang Prabang, Vieng Chan, and later Champassack in
1713.
Louang Prabang was ruled by Kingkisasrat, grandson of
Suriyavongsa.
Vieng Chan was still ruled by Xai Ong Ve, nephew of Suriyavongsa.
Champasak was ruled by Soysisamut Phutthangkun, grandson of
Suriyavongsa.
Kings of Louang Prabang after the break up..
Kingkissarat (r. 1707- 1713) -- Grandson of Suriyavongsa.
Ong Kham (r. 1713-1723) -- Son of the ruler of Xiang Hung.
Inthasom (r. 1723-1749) -- Brother of Kingkissarat.
Inthaphom (r. 1749-1750) -- Ninth son of Inthasom.
Xotika (r. 1750-1771) -- First son of Inthasom.
Surinyavong (r. 1771-1791) -- A son of Xotika.
Interregnum (1791-1795)
Anuruttha (r. 1795-1816) -- Brother of Surinyavong.
Manthaturat (r. 1817-1836) -- Son of Anuruttha.
Interregnum (1836-1839)
Sukkhasoem (r. 1839-1850) -- Son of Manthaturat.
Chantharat (r. 1852-1871) -- Brother of Sukkhasoem.
Unkham (r. 1873-1894) -- Brother of Chantharat.
Khamsuk or Sakkarine (r. 1894-1903) -- Son of Unkham.
Sisavang Vong (r. 1904-1959) -- Son of Khamsuk. Reign 55 yrs,
the longest reign by
any king in history, but unfortunately when he died he brought
Lan Xang dynasty with
him.
Savang Vatthana (r. 1959-1975) -- Son of Sisavang Vong. Died in
the Seminar camp in
Houaphan, believed to be killed. Savang Vatthana never was
formally crowned.
Kings of Vieng Chan
Xai Ong Ve (r. 1707-1735) -- Nephew of Suriyavongsa.
Ong Long (r. 1735-1760) -- Half brother of Xai Ong Ve.
Siribunnyasan (r. 1760-1779) -- Son of Xai Ong Ve.
Nathasen (r. 1779-1794) -- Son of Siribunnyasan.
Inthavong (r. 1794-1804) -- Son of Siribunnyasan.
Anuvong (r. 1804-1828) -- Son of Siribunnyasan.
Kings of Champassak.
Soysisamut Phutthangkun (r. 1713-1737) -- Grandson of
Suriyavongsa.
Xaiyakuman (r. 1737-1791) -- Son of Soysisamut.
Fay Na (r. 1791-1811) -- Son of Phra Vorarat; not of royal
descent.
Nu (r. 1811-1813) -- Son of Fay Na.
Manoy (r. 1813-1819) -- Nephew of Xaiyakuman.
Nyo (r. 1819-1827) -- Son of Anuvong king of Vieng Chan.
Huy (r. 1828-1840) -- Grandson of Xaiyakuman.
Nak (r. 1841-1850) -- Brother of Huy.
Bua (r. 1853-1855) -- Son of Huy.
Khamnyai (r. 1855-1862) -- Brother of Bua.
Khamsuk (r. 1863-1900) -- Brother of Khamnyai.
Nyuy or Raxadanai (r. 1900-1946) -- Son of Khamsuk.
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Sri Sattanakarahut [r.2000-2003] -- a son of Sri Hahate and ruled
Soc.Culture.Laos...hehehe
drsouk
vientiane and luangphabang).
Dynasty of Champasak
The province of Champasak was part of the Tchen-la land Kingdom, passed then
under domination of Cham and Khmer, and finally of Lao.
In 1707, Chao Soi Sisamout (or Chao Nokasat) whose ancestry is not well
established (maybe a son of Soulignavongsa), proclaim himself king of
Champasak and becomes thereafter vassal of Lan - Xang. The lineage of Soi
Sisamout maintains until Boun Oum (1707 to 1946) with two interruptions:
1791-1811 and 1819-1826.
- Chao Soi Sisamout (1707 - 1737)
- Chao Sayakoumane (1737-1791), son of Soi-Sisamout.
- Reign of Chao Fay Na of 1791 to 1811, son of the governor of Yasothon,
enthroned by the Siam after having repressed a rebellion of Kha against
Sayakoumane.
- Chao Nou (1811-1813) son of Sayakoumane.
- Phromma Noi, brother of Nou (1813-1817)
- Reign of Rasabout Nhô from 1819 to 1826, son of Chao Anou.
- Chao Houi (1829-1840), son of Nou.
- Chao Nak (1840-1850), brother of Houi.
- Chao Boua (1851-1852), brother of
- Chao Kham Nhai (1856-1858), son of Houi.
- Chao Kham Souk (1863 -?), brother of Kham Nhai.
- Chao Nhoui (1900 -?), son of Kham Nhai.
- Chao Boun Oum, son of Nhoui, abdicates in favor of Sisavang vong in 1946.
Dynastie de Champasak
La province de Champasak faisait partie du Royaume de Tchen-La de Terre,
puis passait sous domination des chams et des khmers, et enfin des lao.
En 1707, Chao Soi Sisamout (ou Chao Nokasat) dont l'ascendance n'est pas
bien établie (peut-être un fils de Soulignavongsa), se proclame roi de
Champasak et devient par la suite vassal du Lan-Xang. La lignée de Soi
Sisamout se maintient jusqu'à Boun Oum (1707 à 1946) avec deux
interruptions: 1791-1811 et 1819-1826.
- Chao Soi Sisamout (1707- 1737)
- Chao Sayakoumane (1737-1791), fils de Soi Sisamout.
- Règne de Chao Fay Na de 1791 à 1811, fils du gouverneur de Yasothon,
intronisé par le Siam après avoir réprimé une rébellion contre Sayakoumane.
- Chao Nou (1811-1813) fils de Sayakoumane.
- Phromma Noi, frère de Nou (1813-1817)
- Règne de Rasabout Nhô de 1819 à 1826, fils de Chao Anou.
- Chao Houi (1829-1840), fils de Nou.
- Chao Nak (1840-1850) , frère de Houi.
- Chao Boua (1851-1852) , frère de
- Chao Kham Nhai (1856-1858), fils de Houi.
- Chao Kham souk (1863- ?), frère de Kham Nhai.
- Chao Nhoui (1900- ?), fils de Kham Nhai.
- Chao Boun Oum, fils de Nhoui, abdique en faveur de Sisavang vong en 1946.
drsouk
(1263-1578)
l. Mang Rai (1263 -1311) capitale at Chiang Rai, then Chiang Mai.
2. Chai Songkhram (1318 - 1325)
3. San Phu (1327 -1334).
4. Kham Fu (1338 -1336).
5. Pha Yû (1345 -1355).
6. Kü Nâ (1367 -1385).
7. Sèn Muang Ma (1400 - 1401).
8. Sam Fang Kïn (1401 - 1441).
9. Tiloka (1442 -1487)
10. Yôt Chiang Rai (1487 -1495)
11. Phra Muang Kao (1495 -1526)
12. Ket (1526 -1538).
13. Thao Chai (1538 -1543).
14. Ket (2nd time) (1543 -1545).
15. Reine Mahathevi Jiraprapha, regency (1545 -1546).
16. Upayao (1546 -1547).
17. Thao Sai, futur lao king Setthathirath (1547 -1551).
18. Ma Ku (1551-1564).
19. Queen Visutthathevi, regency (1564 -1578).
King Kavila, vassal of Siam took Chiang Xèn to Birmans (1804) and offered
Lan-Na to Siam. To be noted : in the thai history books actually, the regn
of Thao Sai is briefly mentionned without precision.
drsouk
Fa Ngum
1316-1374
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Sam Sčn Thaď
X...
1374-1417
I
Lan KD - Konkham-Khamtemsa-Luxay-Vanburi - Kčo PP Bouo ban
1386-1427 1438-79
_____I___________ _________I__________________
-Phommathad-Nhouk Souvanna Lasčnthai Vixun
1427 1427 1479-86 1486-1503
1507-30
I I
Sômphou Phothisarath
1503-07 1520-47
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X... Sethathirath
1527-71
I I
Thammikarath Nokčo
1596-1623 1591-96
I
Upagnouvarath
1622-27
I
Monkčo
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Tonkham
Vixay
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Sômphou Bounxou Soulignavonsa
1637-94
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Sai Ong Hué
Kingkitsarath Inthasôm
1712-67
1722 1731-56
drsouk
Vientiane Luang Phabang
Champasak
Sôm Phou Soulignavongsa
?
I ________I______
I
Sai Ong Hué Kingkisarath Inthasôm
Chao Soi Sisamouth
1712-67 ?-1722
1731-1756 ? - 1737
I ___________________________I____________
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X Intharavongsa Sotikakoumane Vongsak Anourout
Sayakouman Thammathevo Sourinho
1756 1756-69 1769-81
781-1815 1737-91
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Siriboungnasane Manthathourat Oun
Kčo No Muang Ma Noi
1767-81 1815-36
1807 1807-?
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Nanthasčn Inthavong Anou Phommavong Soukaseum Chanthararath Ounkham
Houy Nak Boua
1783-95 1795-1804 1804-28 1839-51 1851-70
1870-88 1828-40 1851-52
I __________I_______________
Sakarine Khamnhai Khamsouk Nhoui
1888-1903 I
I I
Sisavang vong Boun Oum Boun Om
1904-59
I
Savang vatthana
1959-1975
drsouk
next kingdom of muang phouan
jimsouk
> for the young brother who want to known (next dynasty of xiang khouang,
> vientiane and luangphabang).
>
> Dynasty of Champasak
> The province of Champasak was part of the Tchen-la land Kingdom, passed then
> under domination of Cham and Khmer, and finally of Lao.
> In 1707, Chao Soi Sisamout (or Chao Nokasat) whose ancestry is not well
> established (maybe a son of Soulignavongsa), proclaim himself king of
> Champasak and becomes thereafter vassal of Lan - Xang. The lineage of Soi
> Sisamout maintains until Boun Oum (1707 to 1946) with two interruptions:
> 1791-1811 and 1819-1826.
> - Chao Soi Sisamout (1707 - 1737)
> - Chao Sayakoumane (1737-1791), son of Soi-Sisamout.
> - Reign of Chao Fay Na of 1791 to 1811, son of the governor of Yasothon,
> enthroned by the Siam after having repressed a rebellion of Kha against
> Sayakoumane.
> - Chao Nou (1811-1813) son of Sayakoumane.
> - Phromma Noi, brother of Nou (1813-1817)
this is a very good review of lao history lesson, but who care now we
need to restore lao kingdom back to the lao heritage kick the lao viet
out and give the langxang palace back to the king's kin demolish all
kaysone statue down because he is not the person who created lao at
all
laokham
I find it quite perplexed that the prefixed 'Chao Fa' was used up until Chao
Fa Ngoum (his predecessors, Chao Fa Ngiao, Chao Fa Khamhiao), but ended at
the reign of his son, Chao Samsenethay. Since then the nobility of 'Chao Fa'
is no longer used except the Tay of Shan (Ngiao) that maintained the used of
this nobility title for many more centuries. Could it be possible that Chao
Fa Ngoum clan has very strong tie to the Shan's noble family (Ngiao) ? Could
the tie been severe ever since he founded the kingdom of his own ? I have
the feeling that 'Fa (heaven)' in Chao Fa tell us something of his root.
Laokhamhom,
"drsouk" <drs...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message
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drsouk
my chronology of dynasties ruling actual luang phabang before fa-ngum is:
1. king pu chao thani, queen nang kong pali
2. king chao phuthasen, queen nang kanri
3. dynasty of chanthaphanith (thaď lao of vientiane): king chanthaphanith,
queen nang kham pang; capital xieng dong-xieng thong (nithan muang lanxang)
4. dynasty of phra xay (môn of hamsavati) about 654; later phra xay go to
actual vientiane (manuscritt fond dupont); 1 king.
5. dynasty swa (môn-khmer with hindouist civilisation; perhaps from lin-yi
kingdom or champa of actual center vietnam) xieng dong xieng thong became
muang swa; 8 kings.
6. dynasty of khun borom (thaď lao); capital xieng dong- xieng thong - muang
swa; 25 kings from khun lo son of khun borome to fa ngum (1314); 14 first
kings are "khun", then followed by 5 "thao", followed by 4 "pha-gna"; "khun"
is a honorific title coming from chinese, "thao" is purely thaď lao,
"pha-gna" is from birman.
about fa-ngum, his father is "phi-pha" (in old lao = khmer). perhaps phagna
kham ngiao (grand father of fa-ngum) have a khmer spouse.
Shoua Yang
SY
Sri Sattanakarahut <srisa...@fakemail.com> wrote in message news:<3F27DDC1...@fakemail.com>...
lorklin
This is one of the best thing I came across.
Do you or any one have this in a book or on a chart?
I would like to get hold if one and frame on my wall.
thanks.
"drsouk" <drs...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:<bg90vi$q5q$1...@news-reader4.wanadoo.fr>...
drsouk
(from king Manthathourat to Savang vatthana and from viceroy Oun-kčo to
Phetsarath)
kings:
-king Manthathourat (1815-1836) eldest son of Anourouth
-king Soukaseum (1839-1851) eldest son of Manthathourat, king Chanthararath
(1851-1870) son of Manthathourat, Ounkham (1870-1888) son of Manthathourat
-king Sakarine (1888-1903) son of Soukaseum
-king Sisavang Vong (1904-1959) son of Sakarine
-king Savang vatthana (1959-1975) son of Sisavang vong
viceroys:
-viceroy Oun-kčo (?-1828) son of Anourouth
-viceroy Souvannaphouma (1870-1887) son of Oun-kčo
-viceroy Boun-khong (1888-1820) son of Souvannaphouma
-viceroy phetsarath (1941-1945) son of Boun-khong
The viceroy Oun-kčo, cadet brother of Manthathourath, who sent as
reinforcement to the Siamese at the time of the sack of Vientiane, protest
against exactions and dies as deportee at Bangkok in 1828. His grand son
viceroy Boun-không has 11 wives, 11 sons (of which Phetsarath, Souphanouvong
and Souvanna Phouma from different wifes) and 13 girls. Kham Ouane the
mother of Chao Souphanouvong, is a commoner.