Laos urges Thailand to be more understanding
Joe Fukawe
Laos has called on Thailand to be more understanding about the
ill-feelings the Lao people still hold towards Thailand, as that would
greatly help to bring improvement to bilateral ties between the two
neighbours.
Laos' Foreign Ministry spokesman Yong Chanthalangsy said yesterday Lao
history was dominated by struggles from its neighbours' occupation,
which resulted in suspicion and mistrust against its neighbours,
including Thailand.
It would take not just years, but generations, to eliminate such
feelings, he said during a seminar at the Foreign Ministry in Bangkok.
He cited a few examples of such feelings which are reflected in a
saying that "listening to Thai people talk is like setting fire to
one's house". In addition, many Laotians still mistake American
bombings from army planes from U Ta-Pao for Thai bombing raids.
However, he said the new generation should help rewrite a new chapter
in Thai-Lao bilateral relations.
"Since Lao people can read and understand the Thai language and they
consume not only newspapers, but electronic media like TV as well as
cinemas, it will be better if the Thais give special care to Lao
sensitivities," said Mr Yong, who dubbed the sensitivities as "the
instinct of preservation".
Virabongsa Ramangura, president of the Thai-Lao Friendship Association,
said since neighbours could not abandon each other, they should learn
to co-exist and be extra careful in their dealings.
"In particular TV soap operas, cinema and news reports should realise
their impact on consumers, readers and viewers in neighbouring
countries," he said.
A few months ago, a Thai comedy "Mak Te," which featured a Lao football
team trying to compete in the World Cup, enraged the Lao people and its
government, causing the film to be scrapped.
Mr Yong said Thai film producers should submit their movie scripts to
Vientiane, not for censorship, but for closer consultation to avoid
another bad experience.
ທ້າວໃຂ່ມືດ
Re: Mark Tae.
Ow "Mark Tae" xai park mun long beung doo Thai Dark Lae hunt na... Mun
xi saap you bor? 55555555
All kiddings aside, there's enough blame to go around on both sides re:
Mark Tae. The Thais were a wee bit insensitive and the Laotianes were
a wee bit overly sensitive.
They (Thai) must be a little more considerate. We (Lao) must be a
little more relaxed and enjoy/go with the flow. I say the same for
Hmong Lao and Lao Lum.
8^) Hak Pang
TKM
DKJ-ດກຈ
ທ່ານເຂົ້າໃຈແນວໃດກ່ຽວກັບ
"the instinct of preservation" ຂອງຄົນລາວເຮົາ
ໂດຍສະເພາະລາວນອກເຮົາຍັງມີຫລາຍຄົນຢູ່ເບາະທີ່ມີສັນຊາດທະຍານຂ້າງເທິງນີ້?
ຮັກແພງ
ດກຈ
ທ້າວໃຂ່ມືດ
I understand that to be a feeling of Patriotism, Tanh DKJ. There are
many kon Lao in my area who are very very Patriotic, although their
idea of being patriotic is different from mine.
"Virabongsa Ramangura, president of the Thai-Lao Friendship
Association, said since neighbours could not abandon each other, they
should learn to co-exist and be extra careful in their dealings. "
The above statement by Mr. Ramagura is the best advice for neighbors in
this day and age. We must make friends with our neighbors and be able
to rely on each other in times of crisis.
In order to be on friendly terms, we must be able to accept a little
criticism and at the same time, we must control our own urge to
criticize others.
...but hey, if the other-side is stupidly wrong, insensitive and
arrogant then war is war.
TKM
Cat
critizism was about the LPDR's handling of the economy, infrastructure
of the country, running the country they, the LPDR might go as far as
killing those that criticized the government, like the couple from
North Carolina who was assisinated in Nong Khai.
paxas...@yahoo.com
Of course Cat, because Laos is not your country so you don't mind . I
am pretty sure if Thai make some kind of joke movie about Hmong , you
may say it differently and pinong hmong will walk from Fresno and
Minesota to DC in no time to protest Thai Embassy .
PXL4LIFE.
DKJ-ດກຈ
ແມ່ນຄວາມທ່ານແລ້ວວ່າພວກເຮົາຕ້ອງຮຽນຮູ້
ແລະສຶກສາຊຶ່ງກັນແລະກັນໃນການຈະຢູ່ຮ່ວມກັນໂດຍສັນຕິ
ແລະໃຫ້ກຽດຊຶ່ງກັນແລະກັນ.ການມີເພື່ອບ້ານທີ່ດີກໍມີແຕ່ສິ່ງ
ຈະອຳນວຍໃຫ້ພວກເຮົາມີຄວາມເຂັ້ມແຂງ
ແລະເປັນປຶກແຜ່ນຫນຶ່ງດຽວກັນ.
DKJ-ດກຈ
ແມ່ນມີສູງກວ່າປະເທດເພື່ອນບ້ານຢ່າງໄທອັນເນື່ອງມາຈາກ
ລາວເຮົາມີປະຫວັດສາດອັນຂົມຂື່ນມາຫລາຍຍຸກຫລາຍສະໄຫມ
ຖືກຄຸກຄາມແລະຂູດຮີດຈາກສັດຕູພາຍນອກບໍ່ຈັກວ່າເທົ່າໃດລຸ້ນຄົນມາແລ້ວ
ສົງຄາມກາງເມືອງທຳລາຍກ້ຽງວັດຖຸແລະຈິດໃຈພ້ອມທັງໂບຮານະສະຖານຕ່າງໆ
ທັງຫມົດນີ້ເປັນພື້ນຖານໃຫ້ແກ່ຄົນລາວມີຄວາມຮູ້ສຶກທີ່ອ່ອນໄຫວຕໍ່ຄຳວ່າລາວ
ມີ sensitive ໃນ instinct preservation
ສູງແລະໄວກວ່າ
ແນ່ນອນພວກເຮົາທັງຫມົດລວມທັງເພື່ອນບ້ານທີ່ສື່ສານດ້ວຍພາສາດຽວກັນນີ້
ຄວນເຫັນຄວາມສຳຄັນຂອງບັນຫານີ້ຕື່ມໃຫ້ຫລາຍກວ່ານີ້.
ຮັກແພງ
ດກຈ
Cat
For starters I did not walk to DC, if that's what you're trying to
refer to. I was born in Laos, does that make me less Lao than you? I
just don't think the government of Laos should be wasting it's time to
correct cultural insensativity by private Thai citizens or too
sensative on the part of the Lao LPDR. Freedom of speech and the
rights of the movie maker regardless on whether you agree with them
should not be silence. The LPDR should learn to practice "freedom of
speech".
By the way it is absurd that one government should be telling a private
citizen of another governement on what it can and cannot say.
ທ້າວໃຂ່ມືດ
Tanh-DKJ,
You are wasting your breath... CAT does not read Lao that's why he did
not respond to my posts.
TKM
thoonhua
himself too. wee lao people don't want anbody look down. even wee
poorwee no need some one look down us. i like pxl i woudl like to see
how u feel when thai make movie look down about hmong.
Khamsing
them in one form or another. What Lao PDR is doing is complaining, and of
course you know people usually do not like complaint.
Thai people usually do not look down at me, I do not have 1 million dollars
in the bank, all I did was dressing properly, speak properly and kindly, I
respect them and I got the same in return. It's all about psychology.
-Khamsing
"thoonhua" <teeh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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thanouxay
You are partly right. Yes I agree with you that one should behave in
dignity and be in a position to not allow anybody to look down on him.
But it is certaintly not enough if the other person is enslaved in
ill-mentality of looking down on you.
Please recall that there was once upon the time the Pan-thaist movement
which had been trying to expand Thai predominance all over and dominate
neighbouring countries. Therefore, what ever good image you are
projecting to the world, Panthaist will always try to ignore it and
distort your good image and making fun out of you and your culture.
As Lao which has a long tradition and culture, we will have to fight to
sustain our Nation and culture.
Sok dee
paxas...@yahoo.com
I do not refer you to those walkers. It is the LPDR government job to
tell anyone who look down on Laos and her people . They have the right
of the movie maker and LPDR have the right to protest . They also have
the right not to stop but they did because they knew they wrong . If
thai movie maker make movie about Lao soccer team from Longcheng . The
team logo is picture of the cat like your name and under the cat write
MEO . Now this team is in training to go to ASIAN GAMES and is
coaching by Thai coach . So the thai coach want all players to eat
healthy food and sleep properly with lot of hard training but the
captain of the team has special request to the coach if they can have
just rice with water . The coach granted the request . How does it
sound for a funny movie ? Maybe it's a good replacement for MAK TAE
movie do you think ? Even if it really happen , I think LPDR will still
protest that too .
PXL4LIFE.
Khamsing
"thanouxay" <than...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1156740222.9...@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Dear Khamsing,
>
> You are partly right. Yes I agree with you that one should behave in
> dignity and be in a position to not allow anybody to look down on him.
> But it is certaintly not enough if the other person is enslaved in
> ill-mentality of looking down on you.
>
> Please recall that there was once upon the time the Pan-thaist movement
> which had been trying to expand Thai predominance all over and dominate
> neighbouring countries. Therefore, what ever good image you are
> projecting to the world, Panthaist will always try to ignore it and
> distort your good image and making fun out of you and your culture.
>
> As Lao which has a long tradition and culture, we will have to fight to
> sustain our Nation and culture.
>
> Sok dee
>
Hi thanouxay,
Yes I understand, maybe I am not comparing apple to apple. It's easy
for me to say since I am in the 3rd world, and they too in the 3rd world
their characters maybe reserved. I do believe that in Laos, it would be
difficult to do as I suggested.
If I am in Laos right now, I would say "What a heck with Thai, who cares if
they want to look down at me, that's their problem". I can always control
my view, and my character but not others, so let them be as they want to be.
You can get them back by selling your electricity at higher price (not
saying it's possible under a contracted trade but we can always play game
back).
Sok dee too.
Cat
I know this is a sensative issue, respect. Of course everyone wants
respect. I just don't think it is in the interest of one government to
use the inter governemental infrasturcture to address isssues of
respect when the other party is a private citizen.
I could see real reasons for the LPDR to address the issue if the Thai
Governement produced the film or had a role in the development of the
film. This was a private Thai citizen. It should be addressed
accordingly.
Your idea of making the movie MEO, and addressing me as "MEO", I think
that's more of a reflection of you and your character, but that's just
who you are.
saop...@gmail.com
.
saop...@gmail.com
.
Cat wrote:
thanouxay
We would rather take a less confronting approach by keeping on
strengthening our relations with all neighbours and at the same time to
fight for recognition in all fields. There is no other more productive
approach than being pro-active and to age everybody including the
private sector and private individuals to promote better understanding
among the peoples.
The fact that one look down on somebody is most of the time due to
ignorance. If that person came to better know you and acknowledge your
quality, he/she will reconsider his/her opinion and adopt a more
comprehensive attitude toward you. In another sense, it is PR (public
relations) works to promote yourself.
This is an endless work but you should not neglect it.
This is true also when apply to our bothers LaoNork. More often they
come home, more they will understand to real situation of the country
and more they will appreciate the changes which had been operating in
the country. That is why, we will continue to work in this direction to
attract more and more of our brother back hoe by providing them with
all facilities and incentives.
Sok dee