we must know and learn our Laos history..How were the Queen and King...per Dr Faj
Born2beMhong
Special Rapporteur on Torture
c/o Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights United Nations
Office at Geneva
CH-1211 Geneva 10
Switzerland
E-mail: urgent-act...@ohchr.org
Camp 05 B
Fifteen minutes later, appeared another group of ten prisoners in the
same sad shape as the previous, comprising:
1. Phagna (6) Phongsavanh Pheng, Minister of the Interior Gt.de
Coalition.
2. Phagna Soukane Vilaysane, neutralist, member of the Joint Policy
Council
3. Phagna Lyfoung Touby, Secr.d State of Gt.de Coalition.
4. Link Phagna Phavongviengkham, former ambassador to Rep. Pop.de
China
5 Gén.de Bounpone Makthéparaks Corps, Head Cdt.en FAR
6. Gén.de Division Rattikone Wan, former Chief of the FAR Cdt.en
7. Gén.de Phasouk Sorasphak Division, Chief of Staff of FAR
8. Gén.de Nouphet Daoheuang Brigade, Cdt.3 • RM (Savannakhet)
9. Phya (6) Khamchanh Pradith, neutralist, former Ambassador to the
UN
10. Mr. Don Sasorith Issara, an official at the Ministry of Planning
The neck of General Nouphet Daoheuang was so tight he had trouble
breathing. Begging him lay a little knot, he obtained it with a
bullying added: "Still afraid of dying?" Gave him a soldier. These ten
people had been convened and then arrested at the same time as the
others around 9am. But in the office of Commander of the camp. The
arrests were carried there by a section of soldiers led by Commander
Deuan Thong, former commander of Camp 05 B, assisted by Sub-
Lieutenant
Bounthone, commander of the provincial military units. Some time
later, the prisoners were ordered to walk to Sob Ting. At about 5 kms
before Sob Ting, His Excellency Soukane Vilaysane tried to stop a car
4x4 type of escort and asked permission to go because he was too sore
feet. Then we saw five other prisoners tied to the back
of the car. These were:
1. Gén.de Atsaphanthong Pathammavong Brigade, the 5th Cdt.Adjt.de RM
(Vientiane)
2. Gén.de Thongphan Knoksy Brigade, Dir.Cabinet Ministry of Defence
3. Police Colonel Khammouk Phéngsi Aroun
4. Captain Seri Sayakham
5. Commander Sivilay
These five people were arrested the same day of 12 October 1977 at the
site of their temporary camp at Khang Mieng, near the village of Muong
Neua Yao when they were mowing stubble. The arrests were carried out
by a group of soldiers commanded by the Sieur (7) Bounthan.
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Special Rapporteur on Torture
c/o Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights United Nations
Office at Geneva
CH-1211 Geneva 10
Switzerland
E-mail: urgent-act...@ohchr.org
Death Camp 01.
3.1.2. Prison B: It has an area of approximately 20 meters wide and 25
meters long. In the same way as in prison A, it is surrounded by a
hedge of bamboo spears acute and very tight. At one point, moreover,
the two meet. She leaves two exit doors, one front and one behind. It
is located in the northern part of the camp at the foot of a hill,
reaching the south, the little house in the sentry service and the
Southwest, the soldiers' dormitory. Within its walls, there is only
one house prisoners who is No. 3 and a communal kitchen.
A) the house prisoners 3: she is 5 feet wide, 8 meters long and 2.10
meters high. It is constructed in the same way as the No. 1 and No. 2
in a few details. For walls, tree trunks are planted very close to the
outside and the two plates of woven bamboo inside, while the ceiling
is that of bamboo. The hole is dug health just outside.
B) the common kitchen measuring 2.50 meters wide, 3.50 meters long and
2 meters in height. It is surrounded on three sides by a low wall of
woven bamboo easily.
3.2 The Directors and staff of the prison camp 01 (1977-1978)
3.2.1. The staff is composed as follows:
- The Camp Commander: Lieut Thao Ninh. He will be replaced in 1979 by
Mr. (7) Bounlone which succeed, three months later, Mr. (7) Thong Keng
who himself to leave his place Boungnaî Thao.
- The politician: Sub-Lieutenant Pheng Xay.
- The military official: the complainant (7) Thongsy.
- The deputy military Sieur Nou Xay.
- The attendant radio transmissions: the Nou Mr Thong.
- The company (Soldiers-keepers): 2 groups of 20 soldiers in total.
3.2.2. Arms visible:
- Two B-40 (rocket propelled grenades)
- A B-41
- Two light machine guns
- An assault rifle AK-47 per soldier.
3.2.3. The buildings of personnel:
They are grouped in two parts of the camp and the southern edge of the
net in the water at the foot of the hill.
A) In the south:
- Home of the Commander of the camp (Thao Ninh) is of type on stilts,
and is located along the stream of water near the exit gate of the
camp.
- The home of politician (Lt. Pheng Xay) is the ground floor, built on
the ground. It is located in the southern part near the prison A.
- Your desktop, type without floor also serves as a meeting room and
transmission room. - The warehouse.
- Kitchen communal frameworks single warehouse serves as rice.
- A surveillance watchtower.
B) On the waterfront at the foot of the hill:
- The office of Commander
- The dormitory of the troupe
- The communal kitchen of the troop
- A second viewpoint is in front of Prisons A and B.
3.3 The allocation of prisoners in the prison camp 01.
These prisoners were all either representatives of the higher echelons
of civil and military authority of the former Royal Lao Government, or
members of the royal family and Heads of the royal palace. Considered
by the Party as a potential threat to the foundations of the new
regime he has installed in the country, it was decided to put them all
out of harm's way. The prison camp 01 was built specially for them.
The prisoners arrived by three successive groups:
* The first group arrived October 28, 1977. It consists of 27
prisoners from the camp 05B Muong Sat UAER which 7 are locked in the
house No. 1 of the prison A.
They are:
1. Phagna (6) Phongsavanh Pheng.
2. Phagna Touby Lyfoung
3. General Corps Bounpone Makthéparaks
4. Major General Phasouk Sorasphak
5. Brigadier General Sinh Chao Saysana
6; Brigadier General Atsaphanthong Phathammavong
7. Sivilay Commander (former deserter from the army of NLHX (2)) The
others are locked in the house
No. 2 Prison A.
They are:
1. Phagna Soukane Vilaysane
2. Liene Phagna Phavongviengkham
3. Phya Khamchanh Pradith
4. M; Issara Don Sasorith
5. Major General (Retired) Wan Rattikone
6. Major General Bounleut Sanichanh
7. Police Colonel Kavin Kèonakhone
8. Police General Heng Saîthavy
9. Police Colonel Khammouk Phéngsi Aroun
10. Brigadier General Rattanabanleung Chounlamany
11. Captain Seri Sayakham
12. Brigadier General Nouphet Daoheuang
13. Brigadier General Thao Ly Lithilusa
14. Brigadier General Thongphan Knoksy
15. Brigadier General Kane Insisiengmay
16. Brigadier General Bounthieng Vènevongsoth
17. Colonel Khamphan Thammakhanthy
18. Colonel Amkha Khanthamixay
19. Brigadier General Bounchanh Savatphaiphane
20. Colonel Southabanleung
* The second group arrived Nov. 15, 1977 to 21 hours. It consists of
11 prisoners from Muong Liet, their former place of detention.
They are:
1. SAR (9) Prince Souphantharangsi
2. HRH Prince Bovone
3. HRH Prince Thongsouk
4. HRH Prince Sisavang
5. HRH Prince Manivong Khammao
6. S.Ex. (10) Tiao Souk Bouavong
7. S; Exc. Bong Souvannavong
8. General Police Lith Lu Nammachak
9. Mr. Phommy Phanvong
10. Mr. Thong
11. M; Phimpha
They are locked in the house No. 3 Prison B until 24 November 1977 to
17 times, dates on which they are transferred into the house No. 2
prison A coupled with its occupants above. Meanwhile, these 11
prisoners were ordered to build a common kitchen of 2.50 mx 3.50 mx
2m. They finished in a week.
Death Camp 01.
* The third group arrived Nov. 24, 1977 to 22 hours. It consists of:
1. His Majesty the King Savang Vatthana
2. Her Majesty the Queen Khamphouy
3. His Royal Highness Crown Prince Vong Savang
The latter has grown a beard, like a hermit. They are locked in the
house No. 3 of the B prison, recently emptied
of its 11 occupants.
** In all, the number of prisoners confined in the prison camp of
death rises 01 to 41 people
IV. Hellish life of prisoners in the prison camp of death 01. In early
March 1978, Sayavong Thao, head of the province of Houaphan,
provincial secretary of the party, accompanied by Captain Sone Chai,
chief of the provincial military police, the complainant Thongsa,
Chairman of Provincial People's Court, and Mr. Bounphet, commander of
the prison camp 07, drove 10 Vietnamese experts to inspect the prison
camp 01.
Before inspecting the interior of the house No. 2 Prison A by three
experts Vietnamese Thao Ninh ordered the prisoners to sit, motionless,
his arms around his knees, his head bowed. Using flashlights, the
Vietnamese examined the place, especially the walls and ceiling. While
outside, their compatriots were all on the house of
a Vietnamese who was in front of General Insisiengmay Kane, said in
his tongue "Thoi" ("Eat, do not worry" ... ) Without doubt he had
noticed that the prisoner was being quietly chewing his rice! Soon
after, they came out again and went to the house No. 1.
The inspection of the prison A completed, the delegation went to the
prison were locked B where the king, queen and crown prince. The
active presence of Vietnamese experts demonstrates how collaboration
between the two communist parties, Laotian and Vietnamese, is narrow.
And many other findings we suggest that the most important decisions
of Vientiane are more or less inspired and guided by Hanoi! (11) 4.1
The iron discipline of the prison camp 01. From the earliest days, the
commander of the camp, Thao Ninh, reads as follows strict rules to
prisoners:
1) All prisoners here are deprived of their rights as citizens.
2) The prisoners are under the direct responsibility, total and final
command of the camp.
3) Any soldier or camp staff has the right to use its weapons against
any prisoner who discusses his orders or commits any breach of the
regulations of the camp.
4) absolute defense for prisoners to have any contact with the king,
queen and crown prince.
5) Defense to speak a foreign language or dialect of the ethnic
minorities. Only allowed the common language of the Lao Loum ("Lao of
the valley" in relation to ethnic groups who live on the heights).
6) Every prisoner must speak loudly: The whispers are prohibited.
7) When speaking to a manager or other guards or escort, a prisoner
must sit down, arms around his knees and head bowed, must say "yes,
sir" to respond and must keep a distance of 3 to 5 meters! Advocacy of
the former, to compare it to the new.
9) Defense to bring the fire in the house.
10) Everyone is responsible for his place. All repair work must be
reported in advance and authorized.
11) A manufacturing and all teaching is prohibited, except by express
order of the command of the camp.
12) On the occasion of activities away from the camp, it is forbidden
for any prisoner to return to some house in the village, cross a
venue. Before going to his needs, he must sit down and ask permission,
then do not leave more than 15 yards from the keeper.
13) There is the obligatory call of prisoners each night, 19 hours
before the check, and every morning at 5 o'clock in the morning.
4.2 The daily life of prisoners in the prison camp 01
a) Prisoners in prison A Of the 38 prisoners in prison A, 5 are
permitted to work outside namely! While all others are locked inside
dark houses No. 1 and No. 2, 24/24 and 7 / 7, except late Saturday
afternoon when they are
allowed to wash out a quarter of an hour!
From mid-May 1978, the fate of five of the seven prisoners of the
house No. 1 was still worse, because their legs are now hampered by
three devices 24/24 to torture:
- The first device hinders legs Phagna Touby Lyfoung alone.
- The second leg of a binding device Phagna Pheng Phongsavanh another
Commander Sivilay.
- The third leg of a binding device Bounpone Makthepharak General to
another of General Phasouk Sorasphak.
While the generals and Saysana Sinh Chao Atsaphanthong Pathammavong
are subject to morning chore of washing out and "even toilet". Namely
those prisoners permitted to work outside, two (Khamphan Thammakhanty
and Amkha Khanthamixay) are assigned to the communal kitchen. Their
main task is to make bad rice, eaten by worms, and prepare soup made
in the first month, only salt, leaves and wild roots. Later, they may,
from time to time, season with a few cans of Vietnamese origin.
The other three (Phoumy, Thong and Phimpha), they are assigned
primarily to cut wood for all households in the camp kitchens. Other
tasks still borne by the five prisoners - Cultivate and maintain the
small ray of rice, cassava field and a small rice paddy. (Note: the
harvest of this last point does not benefit to the prisoners!).
- Pounding rice and performing other services to staff the camp.
- Get over their shoulders once a month, bags of rice (in all about a
ton), deposited at 700 meters from the camp by 01 prisoners from the
camp 07.
28 December 1978 to June 1980, the camp authorities have killed a
buffalo to feed everyone (staff and their families included!). A
framework has suggested that it was merely to remind the prisoners a
taste for fresh meat!
cwjmem
Wow...
All4One
Jim
fajkhaum
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Born,
Koj yuav tau add part no ntxiv. Part no yog part kawg los yog thaum
xaus rau ntawm hlob Phas Nyas Tub Npis neej: Sat April 1979 yog hnub
lawv tua yawg hlob Phas Nyas Tub Npis.
Kuv tseem tshuav ntau zaj stories txog ntau tus Hmoob scholars ua raug
ntes coj mus kaw thiab raug luag muab tua tuag. Kuv muaj ib tug
tijlaug kwvtij nws raug ntes coj mus kawm tau 7 lub xyoos. Nws paub
txog tej lijxwm no zoo kawg.
Read more...
Death Camp 01.
Towards the middle of April 1978, Thao Ninh, the camp commander 01,
read to the prisoners the following statement:
"Because of the ravages of drought throughout the country, the ration
of rice for each prisoner will now 4OO grams per day, and if
necessary, will be reduced again." Note: Given the poor quality of
rice distributed, roughly once cleaned and washed, there will in
reality no more than 250 grams!).
Similarly, his wife is a nurse, has announced that henceforth the few
drugs available to it will be reserved only for really serious cases.
From April 1978, a few garden vegetables and cassava improve a bit
ordinary.
b) prisoners from the prison B.
The three prisoners are subjected to total isolation. It is
prohibited
for any prisoner of addressing them.
* Crown Prince:
Every morning he goes to get the daily ration of rice for three at
the
warehouse. It has to do with either the superintendent or with Xay
Pheng's wife (the politician). This rice is very bad, rotten, eaten
by
worms in general! Ration of salt is given to him for a week. Each
day,
he cultivates a small garden beside the house No. 3, grows
vegetables,
peppers, eggplant, etc. ...
* Queen:
Its main task of cooking for the three.
* King:
It helps the garden, manufactures its own pipe, piles of stones into
a
bench. He planted three papaya papayas that give superb.
On 1 January 1978, New Year's Day International, the two cooks were
able to offer three prisoners from the prison B, through the sentinel
understanding this particular day, a very precious gift in the
circumstances: a plate rice covered with a layer of condensed milk
boiled! In return, the next day, the Crown Prince has received
permission to send them a bunch of vegetables from her garden, always
through the sentinel. Inside the boot, three-mustard salad feet are
tied together by a string of bamboo. According Thongsouk Tiao, the
younger half-brother of King, this means that all three are suffering
a lot and are in great sadness.
During the year 1979, from 11:30 to 14:30, rest for others, when the
sun is at its zenith and pat very strong, the King and Crown Prince
are driven by a soldier to go weed the rai or repair the fence of
cassava field, often in places where the slope is steeper.
In mid 1979 he was assigned to guard the Crown Prince of a buffalo.
One day, about noon, before going to eat, he tied to a tree. Behind,
unbeknownst to him, treacherously, a soldier set him free. On his
return, not seeing the animal, the prince went to make the report to
the soldier on guard. The latter reproached him so suddenly and with
anger, being unable to keep a buffalo. The prince, ripping his shirt,
showed him his chest, saying: "It's not worth shooting in the air,
pulls on me." The Queen was close, very scared, "cried the prince not
to discuss. The prince then said that would die for her deliverance.
It was better than endure such harassment and torture.
Note: It turns out that this young soldier is the very man who killed
his Excellency Touby Lyfoung a bullet in the heart, a Saturday of
April 1979! It was a very young soldier ethnic Lao Theung 15 or 16
years.
From mid-1979, the health status of three prisoners had deteriorated
considerably.
One day in early January 1980, while the prince was bedridden,
seriously ill (he died two weeks later!), The King was led by the
same
soldier to go weed the reason in ordering him well do. The king said
to Luang Prabang, he had several opportunities to work in his fields
and rice paddies. The young soldier shouted then: "Do not argue,
you've ordered to work, then work!".
Noogqejqawg
nqq
Born2beMhong
However, it is a history that we must know and learn from the past.
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fajkhaum
> Mej leej twg puas tau nyeem Dr. Khamkeo phau ntawv nab?
>
> nqq
Moobsib,
Kuv muaj Dr Bounsang Khamkeo cov presentations ntau kawg. Nub twg kuv
muaj caij, kuv maam thov nwg le permission hab coj qee yaam tuaj tso
rua suavdlawg tau nyeem.
sinwung
kuv muaj nws phauntawv thiab los mas.
nres
.........
Ua li cas cov uas coj luag mus tsim tuag tag li no ho tsis tau xauv
tes ne yom ???
Ua lawv ho tsis raug txiav txim " crime contre l 'humanité " ne
yom ???
Born2beMhong
> Ua li cas cov uas coj luag mus tsim tuag tag li no ho tsis tau xauv
> tes ne yom ???
> Ua lawv ho tsis raug txiav txim " crime contre l 'humanité " ne
> yom ???
1. vim yus haivneeg tsi txawj sib koomtes thiab txawj organized__yus
internal kiag los tseem niaj hnub sibcam thiab sibtshum li peb hauv
SCH no ned
2. ntshe yog vim yus tsi taug tau txoj haus kev tiag...yus pheej lam
maub muastxhov xwb...luag thiaj li tsi nrog yus pom
3. ntshe muaj ntau yam....nyob li Cambodian tus twb muab lub txim tau
lawm...tej no ntshe tseem yog tsawg zog lawm los cas...los yog li hais
sauv os, yus pheej xuas tsi raug txoj subkab thiab subkev li
Born
Hmong-Lao
PY Born2 & sawvdaws,
Hais txog tej xwm txheej no, muab los tso rau saum rooj es nrog luag
sib hais los nws yeej yog lub luag kawg lawm. Tabsis tu siab uas luag
tsis tseg hard evidence rau ntiaj teb pom li Cambodian case. Cov uas
twb yog luag tsim txom & tua tuag, los luag sau report hais tias yog
mob tuag no xwb ces yus yeej nrhiav pov thawj tim khawv nyuab heev li.
Yog li ntawd, hais tau sawv los yeej zoo, yog ho hais tsis tau lawm
los ua ib siab mus nawb.
Txawm lub tebchaws Nplog rais los ua Democracy hnub no thiab tagkis
kiag los peb feem coob twb yog US citizen tag lawm; nws yeej tsis muaj
qab hau rau peb feem coob lawm. Yog peb muaj lub siab xav pab kom peb
tej txheeb tej ze uas nyob tom qab muaj noj muaj haus xwb, nws tsis
thas kom yog Democracy es peb thiaj pab tau; txawm lawv coj kev cai
communist los nws tsuas yog lawv qhov governing system xwb. Qhov
governing system ntawd, yuav zoo thiab yuav phem los nws yog neeg
Nplog li teebmeem, tsis yog neeg US li peb cov no teebmeem ntxiv lawm.
HL
dony
>
> - Show quoted text -
HL,
Koj hais tias Laos qhov governing system yuav zoo thiab phem los tsis
yog peb business n lod? Kuv ho xav txawv zog laiv. Kuv xav hais tias
peb pom xeeb yog neeg Meskas ces yog lub teb chaws twg ua tsis zoo peb
muaj cai 100% nrog lawv sib hais. Yog peb tsis muaj cai no ua li cas
peb ho mus intervene sab Middle East ma? Dony
All4One
>
> - Show quoted text -
I'm very surprised that you guys are starting to TALK like this!!! We
NEED MORE minds that think like YOU, TXH2Maj, etc...to remind some of
us that LAOS is just a figment of our imagination lawm xwb. Our lives
and our loyalty forever remian solidarity with AMERICA! Cov Lao-Hmong
need to do the same and build their country as well. They may be
decendants of HMONG blood...but they are a PART of the fabric of Laos'
society. Their loyalty should be with LAOS first before HMONG!
We NEED to move on and leave LAOS to the Laotian people. DO I care if
LAOS fall into vietnam's control? I really don;t give a rat ass if
Laos ceases to exist on the face of the earth. If LAOS wants to truely
remain a "SOVERIEGN" country as claimed...it is NOT our decision nor
concern. If LAOS continues to kill or tortured their own citizens,
let the Lao-Hmong take care of their own problems. Afterall, mr. YONG
proudly did presented that there are POWERUL Lao-Hmong Politburos in
the LPDR. I'm sure they can work something out. Peb Hmong mekas tsis
need to be thier "VOICES" lawm....vim lawm twb yog cov NYOB kiag haus
lus teb chaws nplog, lawv twb tsis K....why should we?
Jim
Noogqejqawg
taub zoo txug cov neeg Lostsuas tug xeebceem.
Kuv xaav has tas tog Koomtshaas los yeej npaaj sab has tas yuav tsum
ntxuav kuas tej cancer cells huv lub teb chaws huv (clean) hab tu caaj
tu ceg moog mas txhaj le yuav tsi muaj neeg ntau lub taubhau ntxiv
lawm. Luas txhaj le yuav tau zoo tswj lub teb chaws ntev.
Nyob Qhabmeem teb mas lub tsaam thawj ntawd tug/tsev Vaaj Ntxwv yog
tsev raug ncaws tawm ua ntej lawm. Tsis le ntawd mas kuv ntseeg has
tas yuav raug ntxuav ib yaam le huv Lostsuas teb hab.
Nres lu lug nug txug tas ua caag ho tsi muaj leej twg raug foob "crime
against humanity" ntawd mas, kuv xaav tas, yeeb vim yog luas tub yeej
rog lawm. Cov nyuas teb chaws mivx le ntawd ces tub tsi muaj dlaab tsi
tseem ceeb rua cov tebchaws luj ces kawg luas ua ntsej laag muag dlig
moog xwb. Ntxiv ntawd luas tub dhluav yug tog saab xis txaus nkaus
lawm luas txhaj le ua ib sab muab suav dlawg xyeeb hlo tseg thaus kws
luas moog ntxag tau nam dlais dlawb hab dlais dlawb dluav (panda) ob
tug ua yeeb ncuab lawd.
Kuv xaav mas peb tsim nyog yuav tsum tig rov lug kawm peb kuas peb to
taub peb cov teeb meem zoo txaus mas peb txhaj yuav tig rov lug sis
txoos tau ruaj hab khov. Learning the history of cruelty will not
resolve or help us until we truly learned and changed for the better.
Thanks, Born.. I agree with you..
nqq
Hmong-Lao
>
> HL,
>
> Koj hais tias Laos qhov governing system yuav zoo thiab phem los tsis
> yog peb business n lod? Kuv ho xav txawv zog laiv. Kuv xav hais tias
> peb pom xeeb yog neeg Meskas ces yog lub teb chaws twg ua tsis zoo peb
> muaj cai 100% nrog lawv sib hais. Yog peb tsis muaj cai no ua li cas
> peb ho mus intervene sab Middle East ma? Dony
PY Dony,
Koj yeej hais yog lus lawm, peb pejxeem Meskas yeej muaj cai nrog luag
sib hais tiag lo mas. Tabsis yog cia peb cov sab nraud hais xwb, hos
cov sab hauv feem coob qos ncauj ruaj nrees xwb, peb ho yuav hais tau
dbtsi?
Hais txog cov tebchaws Middle East, raws li kuv xav mas qhov tseem
ntsiab uas peb (USG) mus raus tes rau sab Middle East mas tsis yog tim
luag qhov governing system tsis zoo nawb. Qhov peb hais tias yog mus
pab daws tso cov neeg middle east thiab nrhiav txoj kev ncaj ncees rau
lawv yog lus muas dej siab dej ntsws thiab muas kev txhawb pab los
ntawm lawv cov pejxeem xwb. Tom thawj cov thawj coj ntawd los yeej coj
tus cwjpwm lim hiam heev thiab ces pej xeem thiaj poog peb coob heev
xwb.
Qhov tseem ntsiab yog:
1. Peb mus rhuav tshem tus uas muaj thread rau peb lub tebchaws thiab
lwm lub tebchaws uas nyob ze.
2. Peb us nthuav kev lag luam kom dav (including exporting Military
equipments and importing oil).
Hos hais txog lub tebchaws Nplog, peb (USG) qhov kev xav tau yog xav
kom Nplog tso cai rau peb cov Military nkag mus rau hauv (ua chaw tiag
taw hem kom Suav tsis txhob lam tuaj caij tsuj sab tebchaws SEA
ntawd), xav kom Nplog yuav peb tej riam phom, xav kom Nplog pab peb
nriav cov neeg missing in actions, xav kom Nplog koom tes rhuav tshem
& tsis txhob zais cov neeg terrorists, xav kom Nplog koom tes rhuav
tshem kev cog yaj yeeb, thiab xav nthuav kev lag luam lwm yam. Yuav
luag txhua yam no, Nplog twb kam koom tes lawm, yog li ntawd peb cov
uas yog pejxeem Meskas no txawm yuav quaj qw npaum li cas los luag
tseemfwv yuav tsis quav ntsej. Unless cov pejxeem feem coob hauv Nplog
teb quaj qw kom txawv tebchaws pab lawv.
HL
dony
HL,
Kuv los pom ib yam li koj. Kuv tsuas xav muab koj zaum lub hot seat
me ntsis xwb..Dony
Noogqejqawg
Peb suav dlawg tsim nyog pum tseeb le mej tau has lug nuav mas txhaj
le muaj chaw moog. After all, many have tried with arm struggle in
vein for the last 30 plus years without any positive result.
nqq
fajkhaum
Phase no yog phase uas txaus tusiab tshaj:
Death Camp 01.
Camp de la mort 01
V. The tragic end of virtually all prisoners of prison camp 01.
As noted, the prisoners were constantly subjected to strong physical
and psychological pressure. They had lived or rather survive in
inhuman and degrading conditions. Soon, hunger, disease, exhaustion
and despair would have because of their resistance. Thus, from October
1977 to June 1980, at an accelerated pace, 24 prisoners died on 41 or
60% of the total. Among the survivors at that time, a number would
join them in the following months, while the rest was in a state of
physical exhaustion such as less than half of them could still walk
without help!
Listed below are the first 24 victims:
1. Bovone Tiao He died in August 1978.
Half-brother of King, former Governor of the province of Hua Khong in
northern Laos. Arrested in mid-1976 (12) and then sent in a
cave-prison Muong Liet and finally to prison camp 01 November 11,
1977. 24/24 locked in the dark prison, desperate, hungry, scrawny,
exhausted, unable to eat for two weeks before he died in August 1978.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 432-745.
2. Tiao Sisavang (aka Kay Tiao) died in September 1978.
This is the fourth child of the King (second son) and son of Tiao
Bovone. Graduated from a college of Agriculture of France, he was
responsible for agriculture Royal Pak Xeuang a few tens of kilometers
east of Luang Prabang. Arrested along with the king in the year 1976
(12) and then sent in a cave-prison Muong Liet, then the prison camp
01 November 11, 1977. Desperate to see his parents, his older brother
and uncles like him sequestered, unable to eat soon, skeletal,
exhausted, he died one morning in September 1978. Before giving up the
ghost, he just asked his neighbor to find her a little rice wine and
bring him his share of rice.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
3. Major General Wan Rattikone He died in October 1978.
Former Commander of Royal Armed Forces, a figure of the anti-French
maquis time of struggle for Independence, member of the Joint Policy
of 1974, like many of his peers, he was summoned to Congress in
November Viengxay 1975 has been arrested and sent to Camp 05 B in
Muong Sat UAER, finally led to the prison camp 01 October 28, 1977.
Locked 24/24, suffering from acute dysentery, without care, without
medicine, unable to eat, skeletal, exhausted, he died in October 1978.
Before giving up the ghost, he just asked to eat sweet potatoes.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 439-745.
4. Thongsouk Tiao He died in October 1978.
It's another half-brother of King, former chief of protocol of the
royal palace, arrested in Luang Prabang in 1976 (12), sent in a
cave-prison Muong Liet, then the prison camp 01 on 11 November 1977.
Locked 24/24, skeletal, hungry, exhausted, unable to eat or drink for
a week before he died in one night of October 1978. His companions in
misfortune does not realize this until early morning at 5 o'clock,
when the call regulation.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 439-745.
5. Brigadier General Kane Insisiengmay He died in November 1978.
Ex-CEO's strategic high command of the FAR, diabetes, locked 24/24,
constantly tormented by hunger, skeletal, exhausted, he died shortly
before noon one day in November 1978.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
6. Brigadier General Thao Ly Lithilusa He died in November 1978.
Ex-CEO of the information of the high command of the FAR, the former
commander of the brigade "hawk". Locked 24/24, starving, skeletal,
exhausted, unable to eat or sleep for days before dying in November
1978.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
7. His Excellency Bong Souvannavong He died in December 1978.
Founding Chairman of the Party "Union Lao", former President of the
Constituent Assembly of 1947, former MP, was arrested in October 1975
in Vientiane and imprisoned in Sam Khe before being sent into the
cave-prison Muong Liet and finally to the prison camp 01 November 11,
1977. Until the last moment, his morale had never been lowered, only
the body could not follow due to age, lack of food, medicine and
freedom of movement. Locked 24/24, starving, skeletal, exhausted,
unable to go to the bathroom for a whole week, enemas fortune made by
another prisoner allowed him to regain some consciousness before dying
three days later, in November 1978.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
8. Tiao Souk Bouavong He died in December 1978.
Parent and close associate of Souvanna Phouma-(5), former Governor of
Hua Phan, former Minister of Public Works and Telecommunications of
the coalition government of 1974 he was arrested and sent to Vientiane
in the cave-prison Muong Liet then at the prison camp 01 November 15,
1977. Locked 24/24, starving, skeletal, exhausted, he died in December
1978.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
9. Major General Phasouk Sorasphak He died in March 1979.
Ex-commander of the 4th military region (Pakse), Former Chief of Staff
of the FAR, arrested at Camp Chinaimo in Vientiane, and then sent to
the camp 05 B Sam UAER October 22, 1975, the last prison camp 01
October 1977. Locked 24/24, legs chained, starved, skeletal,
exhausted, he died in March 1979.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-735.
10. His Excellency Pheng Phongsavanh He died in March 1979.
It was a close and loyal collaborator-Souvanna Phouma (5), his
personal representative in all negotiations for peace and
reconciliation with the NLHX, making use of all successive
governments, former interior minister of the coalition government
1974, former representative of the party signed the Vientiane
Agreements on reconstruction of peace and reconciliation in Laos,
called a convention in Viengxay and visiting the historic site says,
in November 1975, he was arrested and sent camp 05 B Sam UAER before
being taken to prison camp 01 in October 1977. Locked 24/24, legs
chained, starved, skeletal, exhausted, he died in October 1979.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
11. His Excellency Soukane Vilaysane He died in March 1979.
Former Vice-Minister of Justice of the coalition government of 1974,
former Secretary-General of the Party of neutralist-Souvanna Phouma
(5), former Chairman of the Committee for the neutralization of
Vientiane and Luang Prabang, the former Director National Police,
invited to a conference in Viengxay and visit the historic site in
November 1975, he was arrested and sent to the camp 05 B Sam UAER
before being taken to prison camp 01 in October 1977. Locked 24/24,
starving, skeletal, exhausted, he struggled in a coma for two days and
two nights before giving up the ghost in March 1979.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
12. Phagna Touby Lyfoung He died in April 1979.
Vice-Minister of Posts and Telecommunications of the coalition
government of 1974, recognized and respected leader of the Hmong, he
was arrested at Viengxay like many of his colleagues in the Vientiane
part, sent to the camp 05 B Sam UAER and leads to the prison camp 01
in October 1977. Locked 24/24, legs chained, skeletal, exhausted,
shaken mentally in the last days of his life, he was murdered with a
bullet in the heart of a young goalkeeper from 15 years of ethnic
Theung Mao during his weekly bath a Saturday afternoon of April 1979.
Pheng Xay, the political leader of the camp, ordered Phoumi in Thong
and Phimpha to get coverage of the dead, to wrap it in, attach it to a
wooden stick and then go bury.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
13. Mr. Don Issara Sasorith He died in June 1979.
Graduate of a major engineering schools in France, an active member
and one of the leaders of the party "the voice of youth, son of the
minister expressing Katay Don Sasorith well known for his nationalist
policies pro-Western, anti -Communist and anti-hegemonic Vietnamese.
Conducted in December 1975 at Camp 04 at Muong Hang, then to Camp 05 B
Sam UAER in 1976, finally in prison camp 01 in October 1977. Locked
24/24, starving, skeletal, exhausted, he went into coma for three days
and three nights before he died in the middle of June 1979.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
14. Captain Seri Sayakham He died in July 1979.
Young officer in the direction of the equipment, free-spirited and
outspoken, he was sent to the camp and Chinaimo 06 Muong And July 22,
1975, then taken to Camp 05 B Sam UAER in 1976, finally prison camp 01
in October 1977. Locked 24/24, hungry, he ate everything he could lay
his hand, skeletal, exhausted, he had a particularly horrific end in
vomiting of bile through the mouth while simultaneously expelling
fecal matter through the anus without discontinuity until suffocation!
His body is buried in paragraph VH 348-745.
15. Manivong Khammao Tiao He died in July 1979.
Nephew of King, Bachelor of Law Faculty of Toulouse, who holds a
graduate degree (DES) of the Law Faculty of Paris, he was chief of the
Secretariat of the royal palace and was detained at the same time the
King in 1976 (12) and sent into the cave-in Muong Liet Prison and
taken to prison camp 01 in November 1977.
Locked 24/24, her spectacles confiscated, hungry, scrawny, exhausted,
he died in his sleep one night in July 1979.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
16. Commander Sivilay: death in October 1979.
Ex-officer NLHX (2), he had joined the RAF in 4th RM (Pakse). Arrested
Chinaimo (Staff Vientiane), sent to the camp and 06 Muong 22 July
1975, then taken to Camp 05 B Sam UAER in June 1976, finally led to
the prison camp 01 in November 1977. Locked 24/24, legs chained,
starved, ravaged by malaria, skeletal, exhausted, he died in October
1979.
His body is buried in paragraph VH 438-745.
ກາສາລາວ
GOOGLE TRANSLATE? I KEEP SEEING THIS SENTENCE >>>His body is buried in
paragraph VH 438-745<<<
I MEAN THESE POOR FOLKS LIKE COUNTLESS OTHERS WERE BURIED SOMEWHERE UP
IN SOP-HAO AND OTHER UNKNOWN PLACES IN SAMNUA BUT NOT IN PARAGRAPH VH
438-745.
Victor
Dear Faj,
It is amazing to read what you have to share. Did you get the info
from a book? Which book?
Please release more. Although we are Hmong, we are more Lao than
Hmong. We therefore must know what has happened to our king, queen,
crown prince and others who never came back from re-education.
Victor Thamas
jrian...@yahoo.com
> c/o Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights United Nations
> Office at Geneva
> CH-1211 Geneva 10
>
> Switzerland
> E-mail: urgent-act...@ohchr.org
Those on the list are great peoples they have plenty of time,
they're smarts, have money and knew what going to happen to them,
instead of run a way like chicken they choose to faced the hardship
and die in Lao soil...They dies for our country to get into better
direction
love and respect Buddha bless all of them...
All4One
I totally agree with you....they are true heros and heroines! One
day, when the wind of change come...a memorial will be erect in their
memory.
Jim
Born2beMhong
> they're smarts, have money and knew what going to happen to them,
> instead of run a way like chicken they choose to faced the hardship
> and die in Lao soil...They dies for our country to get into better
> direction
> love and respect Buddha bless all of them...
jrianti...
if they died for a better direction, then it is worthy. but their
death this time had set no clear direction as their dreams and
wants...and that is the sadest thing about Laos--the immediate family
of the King and Queen and the many noble people were perished into no
grave!
Born2beHmong
All4One
Laos is their grave, my friend.
Jim
sinwung
Born,
It's somethng to be known but certainly not a subject to discuss. They
knew their fate but refused GVP's 2 cents of ideas.
Hmong-Lao
Friend Born2,
I agree with jrianti that they died for good. They have no choice but
died for honoring their prides.
The King and Queen died for their people and country. The rests died
for their loyalties to the King and Queen. They are all honorable
people.
Those leaders and people who escaped were not cowards either. They are
the last hope and dream of the King and Queen. But sadly, their hope
and dream did not come true.
Anyway, all we can do now is to forget and forgive. We have to live
with the presents, not the past.
HL
Born2beMhong
>
> - Show quoted text -
I believe many of you's words, however that does not add up. why it
is not add up, because these people were thinking of the Peace Accord
Treaty. No one in this would would want his/her life to be shorten if
known.
it is very nice to say, but that can never apply us human being. one
dies because of there is no other alternative and choice.
Thanks, and it is very sad to hear many of you were saying as you are
said--because it was not an honorable and pride in dying to save the
country or the people...but it was dying as a " total waste"...
:(
Born2beHmong
fajkhaum
Phoojywg Victor,
Cov lus tso tawm hauv no yog kuv qiv ntawm cov phoojywg Nplog coj los
tso rau nej nyeem xwb. Tus sau cov lus no yog ib tug ntawm pab uas rau
coj mus kaw ntawd ntag. Yog nws cov memoirs uas nws sau tseg txog
lawv lub neej nyob pem xoom xam mab nas. Cov lus no, cov phoojywg
Nplog tab tom muab sib txuas uake thiab muab xa rau hauv koomhaum
ntiaj teb/UN kom pab muab coj rov los saib xyuas.
Raws li kuv muab sov saib, qhov teeb meem loj tshaj uas ua rau cov
Nplogliab yuav tsum muab cov nom no kaw kom tuag mas yeeb vim los
ntawm qhov phiam Coup nyob rau xyoo 1976-77 ntawd. Tus sau cov memoir
no nws yog ib tug ntawm pab uas yuav sawv los coup nyob rau xyoo
ntawd. Kwvyees li qab xyoo 1976-1977 ntawd, muaj ib pab Nplog tau
npaj yuav sawv ntxeev tog nplogliab. Kuj muaj peb cov Hmoob muaj feem
nyob rau hauv. Tabsis raws li hais mas lawv tau muab ntau lub tsheb
mus thauj peb cov Hmoob nyob rau sab qaum teb thiab phab hnub tuaj kom
nqis mus rau Vees Cam mus pab lawv ntxeev tebchaws. Tabsis hmoov tsi
muaj, mus txog ib nrab ke ces tsheb cia li tuag tsi ua haujlwm. Vim li
no thiaj xiam phiam thiab mag ntes. Yog muaj caij, kuv tseem yuav nug
tias cov thawjcoj coj Hmoob zaum ntawd yog muaj leej twg rau leej twg?
Tejzaum qee leej ntawm peb cov tuaj hauv no haj tseem yuav paub zoo
txog tus lajfai Coup xyoo 1977 no.
sinwung
Dr. Fajkhaum,
Would you please write in English so our phinong in the Lao forum
know...we careless about Thanouxay and Laophuan but we have some
other Laos like to know.