The Richest Men in Laos

[Jonn500]

Greetings:

When people allow the government to have more power than the power of
the people themselves, that government corrupt...absolute power,
corrupt absolutely, period!! There is no surprise why Laos is among
the poorest countries. See for yourself why, only if the report is
true, of course?

Sources : COMMONDWEALTH BANK ( Ministère des Banques central
d’Australie et Banque PHANITH en Thaïlande puis Banque Central
SIAYUTHAYA en Thaïlande). Diffuser et Editer par le journal PHENDINLAO
Europe N°004-Avril 2001.

Voici les détails de chiffres :

N°1 Sahay Khamtay Syphandone :
A / BANK OF SWITZERLAND
B / BANK OF AUSTRALIA.
C / BANK OF THAILAND .
Pour $221.000.000 DEUX CENT VINT ET UN MILLIONS DE DOLLARS.

N° 2 Sahay Sisavath kéobounphanh :
A / BANK OF AUSTRALIA.
B / BANK OF THAILAND
Pour $170.000.000 CENT SOIXANTE DIX MILLIONS DE DOLLARS.

N° 3 Sahay Bountiem Phetsamay :
A / BANK OF AUTRALIA.
Pour $110.000.000 CENT DIX MILLION DE DOLLARS.

N° 4 Sahay Nouhak Phounsavanh :
A / BANK OF SWITZERLAND.
B / BANK OF AUSTRALIA.
C / BANK OF THAILAND.
Pour $105.000.000 CENT CINQ MILLIONS DE DOLLARS.

N° 5 Sahay Veuve Thongvinh Phomvihane :
BANK OF THAILAND.
Pour $94.500.000 QUATRE VINGT QUATORZE MILLIONS CINQ CENT MILLE
DOLLARS.

N° 6 Sahay Chounlamani Sayasone :
A / BANK OF AUTRALIA.
B / BANK OF THAILAND.
C / BANK OF HONGKONG.
Pour $88.000.000 QUATRE VINGT HUIT MILLIONS DE DOLLARS.

TOTAUX DE 6 SAHAY: $788.500.000 SEPT CENT QUATRE VINGT HUIT MILLIONS
ET CINQ CENT MILLE DOLLARS.

Jonn500

[drsouk]

hum....

[BABYFALL]

That is no surprise at all because that is the Lao way of developing their
country. Bor Penh Nhang!! Chai Yen Yen....... According to Sahai Khamtai, the
Lao people have to wait till 2020 till he has enough corruption. These guys
must make $100,000.00 per month of their salary....huh.

BF
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[lyHoueisoy]

It is not surprising, everywhere since the head in feet, they corrupted, my
poor native, kept silent country will even undergo for a long time PHI KIN
SAD.

HEN GNEUN NA DAM
HEN KHAM NA SAO

merci M.Jonn 500 pour cette information .

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[casalao]

sabaidee all,

i don't know about these numbers. but one thing for sure those who have
strong connections to the powers that be are getting richer every day and
outrageously so while the poor are getting poorer with a very bleak future.

when my wife traveled back to laos two years ago an acquaintance invited her
to a posh coffee shop in downtown savannakhet where the rich and
famous/infamous of the town meet for coffee/chatting/show-off. the one thing
they liked to show off is their cars. they are the latest models like suvs
toyotas, bmw and other expensive cars.

i don't have any problem with people getting richer as long as it is done in
a fairly equitable way meaning the wealth can be spread around just a bit
also meaning if the poor can afford a decent meal too. so on that note i
don't see how a communist/totalitarian regime can help its people achieve
such dream vis-a-vis a democratic or even semi-democratic country. take the
case of the united states of america: this is not the most perfect democracy
by any stretch of imagination but is still by far the most advanced and
richest nation the world has ever known because of its way of democratic
governance. sure there a lot of super rich folks but the poor are getting
richer too. that's how a normal nation is supposed to take care of its own
people.

casalao

[Jonn500]

Sa bai dee Mr. Boonsong,

I don't know if the report is true or not. But one thing I do know and I
think you will probably agree with me on this, that corruption exists among
Lao leaders. That, I know. How much have they sucked, that I don't know?
As for Bounthanh, I would not ignore this man totally neither. You have to
remember that this man is one of the top Lao students that were chosen by
the current regime in the 80s to study abroad. He maybe crazy about Viets
troops in Laos, but he ain't stupid.

Jonn500

[Jonn500]

Casalao et al,

May I add to your whining.

In a free society, institutions such as family, school, temples or churches, and
private enterprises play greater roles in structuring community life. Under a
half open-door society with one party governing such as Laos, the state or
communist party control most, if not all of the institutions, in another words
the Party plays greater roles in structuring community life. Is it a bad
thing? Let Mr. Yanang Laodeng be the judge! Unlike democratic or free society,
which usually call for decentralization of power, and the leaders are required
to share power with other leaders, and they require that ordinary citizens have
power, including the ability to replace ineffective and corrupt leaders. The
communist or Socialist form of governance has the same authoritarian structural
arrangements, Lao leaders or the leaders from the top down to the various
institutions are self installed or installed by [others within its structure] to
exercise predominant and unlimited power over the people and other members of
the institutions. This type of governing structure, people don't have power to
replace ineffective and corrupt leaders. Thus the corrupt one is replaced by
another in with its structure or [Party] and the line is endless.

Jonn500

[omphien]

So Phendinh Lao is sticking its neck out with this number, ha?

I hope they know the consequences if they cannot prove the source to be
accurate: No credibility.

That is not good for a so called political voice...Before long, the late
Thanh
Thongbay will pull your guys legs off your bed for ruining his papers that
he
put so much time to create and to work on...

omphien

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[Khasarawan]

That's very interesting. I wholeheartedly agree with you that these so-called
Lao leaders live well and above their means. However, I, too, don't know to
what extent that they are able to gather so much wealth in a relatively short
time, by what means, and then are able to conseal from the common Lao people.
If this is true, then they are no difference than the ones they replaced
twenty five years ago.

For the sake of argument and let's to assume that it was true, there aren't too
many methodologies which these people can make money in Laos for Laos is not an
industrialized country. Perhaps they are:

(1) selling dopes across Thailand
(2) selling the Laos' natural resources such as timbers and mining
(3) pocketing the money from the international organizations targeted for the
Laos development

Any other ways, folks?

Kha

[Yan...@aol.com]

Let me ask all of you a FAIR and HONEST question. I have nothing against
this allegation. Please, do UNDERSTAND that. In DEMOCRATIC society, you have
a right to paint some one with  all kinds of criminal conduct. But to convict
some one, you are better to come up with more strong evidences. It is an
another story.
  People, think about this. If you are writing an Ph.D DISSERTATION or an MA
thesis, on your works cited would you refer your data from "PENDINLAO""or
from"LAO SERIXON" or from "hptt//: Bounthan Thammavong.com" or
from"Col.Sisouk Sayaseng, a chancellor at Vang Tao University"or from "SEX
SHOP(Kali) at PA PUNG BONG, Vientiane," or from' well-known right wing
wackos" somewhere from sunshine stae of California? Ask yourself the
following questions:
 1. Are these sources CREDIBLE and RELIABLE?
 2.Don't you think these numbers are BIAS and off TARGET in order to serve
some
    organizations' political purpose?
 3.Can you INFLUENCE jurors' decision-making with these HORRIBLE NUMBERS?
    In other words, will jury buy your demonstrative evidences here?
 4. How you(PENDIN LAO) obtain these evdidences? Are these evidences
    admissible in the court of law? Ask youself  this question. Is "PENDIN
LAO" have
    A POWER to  supeana and dig up the dirk of high profile PDR government
    leaders? If they are, under what charter or country's JUDICIARY power?
 Come on DA Jonh500. Where do you get these craps from? The same PENDIN LAO
magazine told our readers on their  last year edition that they are more than
5 million Vietnamese living in Laos. What a JOKE!!!!! Even Kingdergarden
students who are still on diaper and suck pacifier will laugh at this
MUMBO-JUMBO numbers.
 Laodengrathjavong...king of FOODSTAMP from Califucknia...

[Netzero]

Sabaidee all SCLers,

I don't know where Mr. Jon5000 gets this kind of bullshit info. from and I don't know how many people who fall to believe this bullshit. My analysis of this info is: First, the title, Sahay, given in this info. is neither French or English or Swiss or thai. Should it be Mr., Ms, Mrs, and etc.if this is a valid info? Since when Lao language becomes one of the universal language used in the banking system. Secondly, from legal stand point, the personal financial account is a confidential info. It's not something that the bank can release to the public without a written request from the owner. Guess what would happen if the bank does - the bank will get sued for the last penny that it has. It's the benefit to the bank to protect this confidential info. Thirdly, what's point to have your money in Swiss bank if you want other govt. or someone to get an access to your account? Would it be easier for Khamtay to just paste his house with all his money showing everyone what he has or to just deposit his money in a bank in Laos? Why bothers go all the way to Swiss to open the account? This is defeating the purpose of having the account in Swiss bank.

Whoever that puts out this info. should be arrested for falsifying the information and for decieving the public. They should take this bullshit and shove it in their ass. If they want to make their point, they should make it cleaner than this; or is it that they run out of card to play in a political game already? It seems to me that this person(s) is making a desperate and dirty move against the lpdr leaders in order to discredit their leadership.

 

Sok Dee,

 

Phommachanh 

[LEUA JLL]

what kind the business this guy do? I like to invest.

[drsouk]

sabaidi Khasaravan,
you forget the 2% of every project officially given to the chief of project.

[AKM 74]

Lao Theung et al,

>Any other ways, folks?
>

Scheming the exiled Lao's puny investment fund investing in Laos? =)

Akm-74

[makmo]

That's their 401K....people!

Cheers!
makmo

[Brushoff2]

>(1) selling dopes across Thailand
>(2) selling the Laos' natural resources such as timbers and mining
>(3) pocketing the money from the international organizations targeted for the
>Laos development
>
>Any other ways, folks?
>
>Kha
>

Sellings, I thought you and loadeng are full alert on these issues or maybe you
guys cry and keepon trying, but not get paid for a dime. Aren't you going to
retire in next 2 years so? Laodeng is and will.

[thanouxay]

Dear Jonn500 and Firends,

Since when this obscure cabbage sheet " Phènedin Lao " became a
competitor of this authoritative "Forbes Magazine" in the
classification of the richest peoples in the world. Each time I read
Forbes Magazine's annual report on the Richest Peoples in the World
and particularly the 100 richest peoples in Asia, I am very
disappointed that none of Lao name appears among the list of the 100
richest men of Asia. There are a lot millionnaires from Japan,
Hongkong, India, Singapore, Indonesia, Philippines and even of
Thailand but with my disappointment, never from Laos. And the poorest
among the 100 on top of the list weights less than US$ 100 million.

I am, therefore, amused by the revelations or rather the baseless
accusation conducted by this cabbage sheet which hardly print a few
hundreds copies by opposition to hundreds of thousands copies Forbes
Magazine.

I also recall that the same "PhenedinLao" revealed sometime ago that
there are 5 millions of Vietnamese living nowaday in Laos...

I would retain myself from judging the figures given by this
suspicious rightwing paper and beg all of you to use common sense and
caution before using a possible "Lie" as a bases for any discussion.
Because if you allow yourself to accept baseless statements, figures
and assuption, the quality of our debat would be certainly reduce...

By the way I didn't notice that there is now possibility of posting
directly from Google until my posting has been reject twice,
yesterday.

Sokdee

Thanouxay

Jonn500 <Jon...@Jonn.com> wrote in message news:<3B0CA545...@Jonn.com>...

> Greetings:
>
> When people allow the government to have more power than the power of
> the people themselves, that government corrupt...absolute power,
> corrupt absolutely, period!! There is no surprise why Laos is among
> the poorest countries. See for yourself why, only if the report is
> true, of course?
>
> Sources : COMMONDWEALTH BANK ( Ministère des Banques central

> d&#8217;Australie et Banque PHANITH en Thaïlande puis Banque Central

[Sou Maly]

Comrade Mouth Piece LPDR Thanouxay,

By the way, Sorry that you dissappointed that Lao people are NOT on top of the 100
richest men in Asia. Do you know why? If you don't know let me tell you, the
richest men in Laos are Corrupt Politicians NOT businessmen like other countries as you mentioned.

Also, since you defended your Fucking Bosses, let me ask you Comrade Mouth Piece
LPDR, Thanouxay. Do you know that when the Daughter of your Fucking President,
Buck Mah Khamtaay (Dead Gold) got married. Buck Mah Khamtaay built a mansion as
a gift for his daugther wedding that cost more than $2 million dollars. Do you
know that? If you want to see this mansion go and take a look for yourself since
this house is situated in Phonexay on the way to Thatluang. And, do you know
where Buck Mah Khamtaay gets his moneys or where his moneys came from? Also,
Comrade Mouth Piece LPDR, Thanouxay, Do you know that Buck Mah Khamtaay built
his additonal mansion in China near the border of Laos? Do you know that every
month there will be his closest staff flies to Northern Part of Laos to pay for
the people that take care of his house in China do you know that? And this
issue suppose to be a state top secret for Buck Mah Khamtaay do you know that?
Or you just don't see nor know nothing since you just put your head under your
wife's skirt as usual.

Love with lots of kisses just for you, but Dead to your Fucking Boss, Buck Mah
Khamtaay and his Fucking group of thugs.
Soumaly

P.S. Missing you always, Southern Belle!!

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> Dear Jonn500 and Firends,
>
> Since when this obscure cabbage sheet " Phčnedin Lao " became a

[drsouk]

sabaidi everybody,
Are the sources credible? I dont known. One thing make me upset, more than
corruption, is that Latsamy and Feng (Thongsouk was dead) are still in jail.

[ANIMAL CONTROLLER]

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ANIMAL CONTROLLER.

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[laokham]

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[lyHoueisoy]

The custom the representative of the current GV based in the USA defends actively the National corruption, this time , he prefers to keep silent do he .Be very careful? One always waits for him for the confirmation, even if figures are a little inflated one will never know the .THIN SAN crushes PAKNOCK

 

 

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[Brushoff2]

>From: control...@hotmail.com (ANIMAL CONTROLLER)
>Date: 5/27/01 9:47 PM Central Daylight Time
>Message-id: <fad421f5.01052...@posting.google.com>

Hell with ya all, you need to control yourselves, since this country is made up
freedom of speech. I'm not a friend of Ms. Souymaly nor your either. I'm just
kicking tough asses that have never really understood of a rectum. I feel fine
put my name on the board, cause it is cool to have some one me, clean up the
Viet lovers whom never put up a fight. Is this what you all call freedom,
please tell your history to maybe soon long lost children why you wete made so
whoosy. By the way, I fucked Viet cause for the love of my intrest and not for
the love like all of you numb nuts, giving up w/o a fight. Any
more........?????

[Patrick Lertpanya]

brus...@aol.com (Brushoff2) wrote in message news:<20010531011217...@ng-fb1.aol.com>...

Hi everybody,

This is just a test. I am new from this forum and am glad to be learned from you all. Thanks!

Best regards

[Douangmanivong]

"drsouk" <drs...@wanadoo.fr> wrote in message news:<9esb1k$b1t$1...@wanadoo.fr>...

> sabaidi everybody,
> Are the sources credible? I dont known. One thing make me upset, more than
> corruption, is that Latsamy and Feng (Thongsouk was dead) are still in jail.

Dr. Souk! What has the Human Right Group done so far to influence in
this issue? or everybody has given up the effort?

Sok Dee

[thanouxay]

Mr. Douangmanivong,

It is crystal clear to everybody that the source "Phènedinlao" is not
credible and the information was a big lie... Therefore, no more
discussion about it.

With regard to Latsmi and Fèng, do you think that the so-called Human
Right Group would be of any relevancy in this case? Do you think that
the Lao Government would care about what this group had, is and will
say??? This is advantage of being genuinely independent. You do not
have to bother of what other are saying. Provide that you have enough
proof that somebody committed crime, you suit him or her and if it is
proved that there is violation of Laws, you just convicted them.
Forget about the Human Right Group, because when Latsmi jailed a
couple of dozen intellectuals including Sitahéng, Saneu, Sèngdao
Vangkéosay and others... What did those groups said??? Nothing,
absolutely nothing.

Sok dee

Thanouxay

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