Are there any good Korean girls out there?
CHUCKY
That is the question. So far, most of them have been stuck up bitches
who are sold on themseves. At least the ones I have known.
Time is running out, I need to know if there are any who
would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
where he's educated, how are the mamma and pappa,
how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
Quick, time's running out. I was once proud my mother came
from Korea, but now the time's running out. I will be like
AETACK, I don't want to be, so please help me.
Erik Edwin Engwall
Chucky,
I think some if not all of what your having trouble with here stems from
conflicting objectives. You want a woman who won't think poorly of
you because your not from a rich family. And you want to find her
among the daughters of the rich! Perhaps you are swiming a bit upstream.
Consider the following:
You suggest that this chick who dumped you did it at least partly
because you are not from the right kind of family. You also said that you
feel that you were treated unfairly. That who you realy are and what you
have made of yourself was not considered by your X.
It seems to me also from reading your posts that you realy want a Korean
girl. And I bet part of problem you are having is that most of the
single Korean women you meet in North America are students from fairly
wealthy families.
Solution: Find a Korean woman who is not rich but has made something out
of herself the same way you have........by work and merit.
I wonder if this would be more easily accomplished in Korea?
Finaly, one more bit of B.S. and I will quit. If you let the next woman
see how pissed off you are about the last woman then you will fail.
Peace
CHUCKY
In article <Pine.ULT.3.96.98020...@bigwpi.WPI.EDU>, Erik says...
>
>
>Chucky,
>
>I think some if not all of what your having trouble with here stems from
>conflicting objectives. You want a woman who won't think poorly of
>you because your not from a rich family. And you want to find her
>among the daughters of the rich! Perhaps you are swiming a bit upstream.
>Consider the following:
>
>You suggest that this chick who dumped you did it at least partly
>because you are not from the right kind of family. You also said that you
>feel that you were treated unfairly. That who you realy are and what you
>have made of yourself was not considered by your X.
>
>It seems to me also from reading your posts that you realy want a Korean
>girl. And I bet part of problem you are having is that most of the
>single Korean women you meet in North America are students from fairly
>wealthy families.
>
Erik, you are wrong to presume that this girl is from a rich family.
Her family is not rich. Her family is from Jinju, her father runs a
small business. My point being was that I gave all my heart and soul
to this girl, but in the end, I have found out that she was just taking
an advantage of me. Yes, she used me to get the maximum joy. And I
feel like a shumuck for letting it happen. Most of these kinds students
are from middle class families, and I know for fact they
are exclusionary, even against humanity who were willing to help them.
Time and time, I have seen this. It is true I am not from a rich family.
But that's not the point. In these girls' eyes, I'm a failure, a damaged
good because I do not have a perfect set of father and mother, ala
50's style Leave it to Beaver. And plus the fact that I have a woman
in her 50's who is paralysed to take care of, has also got something to
do with it. I do not like to mention these things that can be exploited,
but what can I say.
>Solution: Find a Korean woman who is not rich but has made something out
> of herself the same way you have........by work and merit.
>
That, my dear, is impossible. Korean culture does not believe in climbing
through work and merit. Rather, it's who and where you were born into.
That's confuscianism at its finest.
>I wonder if this would be more easily accomplished in Korea?
>
>Finaly, one more bit of B.S. and I will quit. If you let the next woman
>see how pissed off you are about the last woman then you will fail.
>
>Peace
>
>
My disillusionment with the relationships I've had comes from the way
I have seen the attitude and cultural attitude of these girls.
They are closed minded. Everything to them must translate to for them
to get married to a "good man". And I will never be, in their eyes,
a "good man". Screw them.
JinJJa
>That is the question. So far, most of them have been stuck up bitches
>who are sold on themseves. At least the ones I have known.
>Time is running out, I need to know if there are any who
>would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
>who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
>where he's educated, how are the mamma and pappa,
>how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
>Quick, time's running out. I was once proud my mother came
>from Korea, but now the time's running out. I will be like
>AETACK, I don't want to be, so please help me.
Korean women are gold diggers, WITHOUT an exception. To find a Korean woman who
is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about looks.
So if you are not rich and is a loser then you are worthless to Korean chicks.
Ok? So get rich and buy those BMW and I promise that you will be able to screw
some of those stuck up bitches.
Jinsoo
William John Sowa
Erik Edwin Engwall <eeng...@wpi.edu> wrote:
>
>Chucky,
>
>I think some if not all of what your having trouble with here stems from
>conflicting objectives. You want a woman who won't think poorly of
>you because your not from a rich family. And you want to find her
>among the daughters of the rich! Perhaps you are swiming a bit upstream.
>Consider the following:
>
>You suggest that this chick who dumped you did it at least partly
>because you are not from the right kind of family. You also said that you
>feel that you were treated unfairly. That who you realy are and what you
>have made of yourself was not considered by your X.
>
>It seems to me also from reading your posts that you realy want a Korean
>girl. And I bet part of problem you are having is that most of the
>single Korean women you meet in North America are students from fairly
>wealthy families.
>
> of herself the same way you have........by work and merit.
>
>
>Finaly, one more bit of B.S. and I will quit. If you let the next woman
>see how pissed off you are about the last woman then you will fail.
>
hahahah......what bullshit.
But, then, there's this:
>
>On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, CHUCKY wrote:
>
>> That is the question. So far, most of them have been stuck up bitches
>> who are sold on themseves. At least the ones I have known.
>> Time is running out, I need to know if there are any who
>> would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
>> who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
>> where he's educated, how are the mamma and pappa,
>> how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
>> Quick, time's running out. I was once proud my mother came
>> from Korea, but now the time's running out. I will be like
>> AETACK, I don't want to be, so please help me.
>>
That has got to be one of CHUCKY's greatest bullshit posts of
all time.
EGG
Edward S. Son
On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, CHUCKY wrote:
> That is the question. So far, most of them have been stuck up bitches
> who are sold on themseves. At least the ones I have known.
> Time is running out, I need to know if there are any who
> would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
> who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
> where he's educated, how are the mamma and pappa,
> how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
> Quick, time's running out. I was once proud my mother came
> from Korea, but now the time's running out. I will be like
> AETACK, I don't want to be, so please help me.
Not to long ago, I started a series of responses with my posting on Korean
Women and how I am looking for a "natural" one. Weren't you one of those
poeple that wrote several posts flaming my tastes? Yes, I am certain you
were one of them. Well, and now what are you looking for? Someone who
will not use you, abuse you, etc. ? Sounds like you are looking for a
"natural" woman.
Edward.
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-translation:"Revenge is a dish which is best served cold."
William John Sowa
<CHUCKY> wrote:
ws...@engin.umich.edu says...
>>
>>That has got to be one of CHUCKY's greatest bullshit posts of
>>all time.
>>
>one of them. I'm dead serious. I have been had, scammed by this
>girl named Kim Kang Mi from Jinju City, South Kyungsang Province.
>She goes to Ontario Bible College in Toronto. If you want to have
>a good time with this girl, call her up at (416) 544-8304.
>Tell her CHUCKY sends you. But don't call her at night, she's too
>busy screwing her new boyfriend and won't pick up the phone.
>
Move on to the next girl, CHUCKY.
EGG
CHUCKY
William John Sowa wrote:
> Move on to the next girl, CHUCKY.
>
> EGG
It's not matter of moving on to next girl. Sure there are more fish in
the sea, but
so many of them are drying in the sun like o-jing-o.
William John Sowa
<dha...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I'm not kidding. There are kinda people that you want.
>You, unfortunately, have not met them. Look for them!
>You can find them sooner or later if you try to do your
>best. I also have experiences of disappointment in
>personal relationship. But everytime, i've tried to forget
>it and commenced to look for another nice person.
>Don't be disappointed! Be optimistic!
>
>dha
That's pretty good, dha. I've always said,
MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GIRL.
EGG
William John Sowa
Yet, o-jing-o is one of most healthiest and nutritious foods from
the ocean. I say let them dry in the sun, I will eat them with
my HITE 2000 cc.
EGG
William John Sowa
JinJJa <jin...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Korean women are gold diggers, WITHOUT an exception. To find a Korean woman who
>is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about looks.
>
That's been my experience.
But, so what?
Hati Choi
On 9 Feb 1998 02:40:18 GMT, jin...@aol.com (JinJJa) wrote:
>>That is the question. So far, most of them have been stuck up bitches
>>who are sold on themseves. At least the ones I have known.
>>Time is running out, I need to know if there are any who
>>would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
>>who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
>>where he's educated, how are the mamma and pappa,
>>how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
>>Quick, time's running out. I was once proud my mother came
>>from Korea, but now the time's running out. I will be like
>>AETACK, I don't want to be, so please help me.
>
>
>Korean women are gold diggers, WITHOUT an exception. To find a Korean woman who
>is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about looks.
>
>So if you are not rich and is a loser then you are worthless to Korean chicks.
>Ok? So get rich and buy those BMW and I promise that you will be able to screw
>some of those stuck up bitches.
>
>Jinsoo
Are you guys happy by saying so?
What do you know about Korean women?
How many of them have you met?
If you have met only bitches, do you know why?
Because you are he-dogs or sons of bitches.
There is an Korean proverb.
"Dogs can see only dogs."
Don't generalize Korean women at random.
There are some threads which make me really bored.
Among them 'Why asian women go for....' is the worst.
How shallow you are.
Are you guys feel pleasure by ride over the dignity of women?
I want to tell espcially to those asian guys who might have been
experienced the unfair discrimination from whites.
I guess, my feeling about these kind of insult is similar as those
feelings.
Ypeter2
Most girls and people in general are golddiggers..who does not want a better
life.
Don't try to generalize Korean women..women are women..they all act the
same..if you had been dating a white canadien girl and she dumped you for a
black american, then I guess you would formulate that all canadien women want
black americans.
Get real.
I hate people who always blame others.
Peter
Married to a great Korean woman :)
Daniel Donghoon Paik
>On Sun, 8 Feb 1998, CHUCKY wrote:
>> would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
>> who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
>> where he's educated, how are the mamma and pappa,
>> how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
part of marriage in the korean culture is a joining of families, not just
the individuals getting married.
you need to get along with her parents and she needs to get along with
your parents. and both sets of parents need to get along or else there
will be a lot of strain in the relationship later on. do you really want
your mom to be saying "chucky, your wife is a bitch...she's lazy, she
can't cook, etc.." and your wife saying "chucky, you mom is a bitch...she
nags all the time, she's not MY mother, she's YOUR mother so tell her to
stop bothering me..."
so it's important for the families to get along. this compatibility of
familes includes such things as education, economy, etc. your parents
will probably get along best with another set of parents who have similar
circumstances.
it's also important about how much money you have in the sense that unless
you marry a girl who works and can be the breadwinner of the family, you
will be the breadwinner of the family.
you may be a nice guy and everything but working at your parent's laundry
isn't going to cut it for most girls. it's a simple fact of
life....sometimes love can't conquer all.
when dating with the thought of marriage there are a lot of things that
need to be taken into consideration. from the girl's point of
view probably one of the most important is whether they will be able to
survive based on the income of the guy. if the guy dropped out of college
so he has no degree, no special skills except for a knowledge in dry
cleaning, then that probably won't cut it for most girls. if that seems
like they are materialistic and gold-diggers then so be it.
this is especially true from the girl's parent's point of view. would you
want your daughter to marry a guy how is 30, living with his parents, and
working at their laudromat? can you trust that guy to give your daughter
a happy life?
Dan.
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JinJJa (jin...@aol.com) wrote:
: Korean women are gold diggers, WITHOUT an exception. To find a Korean woman who
: is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about looks.
Gee, your mother must be *so* proud of you.
CHUCKY
In article <6bnt7t$2gt$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>, uc...@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
says...
I don't know where you get this ideal that I work at Laundry mat, and
I live with my parents? You are totally wrong, you're thinking of
another person. It's true the husband must be a capable bread winner.
That I assure you, I am. I did not graduate from a world famous
university, but still I make very good money working in the high
tech sector. I'm only in debt, because
this sorry excuse of a human being girl was so greedy and so sweet at
the same time, that I became fooled by her. That was my fault, I
accept the blame for letting it happen. But you are way off the line
about me not being able to support anyone.
As for her parents, I never even got a chance to introduce myself to
them, because the girl already decided that they would be against me.
I never got the chance to show to them that I do have the ability
and that I do have the capability to love their daughter with all my
heart. She even hid me from her friends. Instead, this girl took advantage of
me. I realize now that she never considered me as a human being. She considered
me as a throw away because of the fact that I don't have an ideal Korean
family and because I'm supporting a handicapped aunt. As far as Korean
culture is concerned, no matter what my ability, I'm garbage.
CHUCKY
You are the same idiot who don't know what you're talking about.
In article <19980209174...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, ype...@aol.com
says...
>
>Most girls and people in general are golddiggers..who does not want a better
>life.
>
Wanting a better life, is totally different from blatantly taking
advantage one person. You think that's normal?
>Don't try to generalize Korean women..women are women..they all act the
>same..if you had been dating a white canadien girl and she dumped you for a
>black american, then I guess you would formulate that all canadien women want
>black americans.
>
God help us if all women acted this way. Read my posts again. She didn't
just leave me for someone, she betrayed my trust. On top of that she
judged me not on the basis of me, personally, she judged me on the
basis of my less than ideal family circumstances.
>Get real.
>
You get real.
>I hate people who always blame others.
>
I hate people who don't know what they're talking about.
>Peter
>Married to a great Korean woman :)
I gather you have a set of parents that are alive and well, and
not handicapped. If you're parents are any one of those, I eat my
words.
CHUCKY
In article <6bn2p4$g...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, ws...@engin.umich.edu says...
>
>JinJJa <jin...@aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>Korean women are gold diggers, WITHOUT an exception. To find a Korean woman who
>>is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about looks.
>>
>
>That's been my experience.
>But, so what?
>MOVE ON TO THE NEXT GIRL.
>
Egg, it sounds so simple. But it's easy for you. You can go back to
dating white women. As for people like me, we're squeezed between
two places. New world culture that stereotypes Oriental men as
undesirables, and the Old world culture that discriminates against
people of divorced, handicapped, single parents, etc.
I have seen the pattern emerging, and it's the fucking same thing
over and over again. The question is, where the hell am I suppose to
go from here? I'm deathly afraid that I will die alone.
>EGG
Woo...@hotmail.com
In article <19980209174...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
ype...@aol.com (Ypeter2) wrote:
>
> Most girls and people in general are golddiggers..who does not want a better
> life.
>
> same..if you had been dating a white canadien girl and she dumped you for a
> black american, then I guess you would formulate that all canadien women want
> black americans.
>
>
> I hate people who always blame others.
>
> Married to a great Korean woman :)
**** Peter, I agree with everything you said--with the exception of that
bit about most people being 'gold-diggers.' Maybe I'm a romantic, but
I've found that the one thing that people yearn for most: to be loved.(A
good sports car comes in a close second, however!! ;) ) --Woodyee
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CHUCKY
In article <6boipq$p...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, ws...@engin.umich.edu says...
>
>Daniel Donghoon Paik <uc...@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
>>
>>this is especially true from the girl's parent's point of view. would you
>>want your daughter to marry a guy how is 30, living with his parents, and
>>working at their laudromat? can you trust that guy to give your daughter
>>a happy life?
>
>Some of the biggest assholes in the world graduated from ivy league.
>I'd take a laundry girl anyday over a stuck up pompous daddy's girl
>who thinks she actually deserved her BMW.
>
>EGG
I am not a laundro mat worker, but I am simply amazed at such Korean
bigotry against people who work hard and who do an honest day's job.
Not everyone can be a airplane engineer. If you need dry cleaning,
who are you going to go to? airplane engineer? These same Korean
social stuck-ups won't let their daughters and sons marry a person
who works at laundry, but they are the first ones to go to a lundry
dry cleaning when they need to press their suites. It's simply bigotry
It's certainly different from my Canadian upbringing that any honest
work is honest work, and if you can support a family and you're not
an asshole, you deserve a chance, laundry worker or no laundry worker.
WHy must Korean culture classify people into group-1, group-2, group-3,
first class, second class, and third class?
>
CHUCKY
In article <19980210051...@ladder03.news.aol.com>, urk...@aol.com
says...
>
>what goes around comes around. weren't you trying to use her to? maybe she
>was clever and knew what you were doing and decided that you were only for play
>
You know what? You're a fucking shit. Go back to farting.
>but if you had the potential to make it big on your own or if you had the
>talent, then having poor parents is not a bad thing. again we date and when we
>marry usually and hoepfully we do becasue we think theat we have found the
>best. if the other is not stack up to the individual standards, then you move
>on to the next one.
>
You're a fucking shit. I'm not poor and I work and I receive high
wages. Go back to eating shit until you're stuffed.
>only the skillless and talentless think that way. if you have the skills and
>talents you can do pretty well. specially in america.
>
Well you're full of shit once again. We're not talking about America
are we?
>
>
>then why not try to improve yourself? it seems that you want to marry a korean
>woman. if you don't have the quality that is good to attract korean woman,
>then why don't you work on it? if korean woman is not good enough for you to
>do that then maybe you need to look else where or aim lower.
>
I have the qualities. I am high quality good. And I don't eat shit for
dinner like you. And I do not aim lower, or desperate enought for just
anyone for that matter. I consider myself worthy, just as you or anyone
else. Go take a shit bath and go to hell, you typical Korean.
William John Sowa
UR Ko Man
>Subject: Re: Are there any good Korean girls out there?
>From: ype...@aol.com (Ypeter2)
>Date: Mon, Feb 9, 1998 12:49 EST
>Message-id: <19980209174...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>
>Most girls and people in general are golddiggers..who does not want a better
>life.
when girls look for a man to share her life with. of course they hav eto look
fo rthe best that they can get. what women would want a retarded good for
nothing bumfor a husband? let's say somehow they get married, the bumwould
pass down the bum gene to her kids. he would be a terrible role model for her
kids. the same thing goes for the guys to. guys look for the best woman.
good looking, and good personality, intellect... who would want to marry a
airhead sexy woman? if marriage just for fun then a airhead sexy woman would
be ok but would you want that airhead to raise your kids?
only losers complain that women are gold diggers. if you had what it takes
then you can have the girl, but you don't. if the girl had everything then
she has the right to chose who she wants to be her husband and father to her
kids. if you are having bad luck with the fine girls, then you are aiming to
high
William John Sowa
<CHUCKY> wrote:
>
>Egg, it sounds so simple. But it's easy for you. You can go back to
>dating white women. As for people like me, we're squeezed between
>two places. New world culture that stereotypes Oriental men as
>undesirables, and the Old world culture that discriminates against
>people of divorced, handicapped, single parents, etc.
>I have seen the pattern emerging, and it's the fucking same thing
>over and over again. The question is, where the hell am I suppose to
>go from here? I'm deathly afraid that I will die alone.
>
I don't think the "stereotypical Oriental image" is still rampant
in USA like it was in the 1980's. Basically, I theorize that
due to the recent appearance of many white women suddenly dating
black men, it had an impact on the "eligibility of Asian men"
as serious dating material. Of course, Asian Confucianism will
never allow it, but in my opinion, many white women have suddenly
"opened their minds" to young Asian men (mostly teenagers) in the
last, say, 5 years, at least in my Midwest area of view.
Actually, CHUCKY, I feel that there are many white women out there
that would enjoy your personality, IF AND ONLY IF, you are really
like the persona that you appear to be in SCK.
As far as Korean gyopo girls go, I think you are right. I find
most Korean gyopo girls to be rather snobbish, looking for the
richest gyopo boys they can find ( a sort of competition to see
who can be the most richest "Western Korean" girl )
As far as Korean yoohaksaeng girls go, I would stay away from the
yoohaksaeng. The yoohaksaeng girls have this Princess Disease
about graduating from a Western college and going back to
Korea to meet rich successful Korean businessmen whose family
may be impressed enough with her education to allow their son
to marry her ( a sort of "I'm as powerful as my husband"
mentality )
What you need, CHUCKY, is sort of a "2ND CLASS KOREAN NATIONAL
GIRL". A real genuine non-Westernized Korean girl who could
not get into SNU, Ehwa, Yonsei, Koryo not because she was dumb,
but because her family didn't have enough money to bribe anyone.
This girl is not seeking some rich prince to buy that Kangnam
Villa, she just wants to be loved by a Korean man who will not
stay out all night and return to her in the morning with a soju
hangover. I suggest you go to Korea and look around. There's
a hell of a lot of "ordinary average everyday Korean girls"
floating around that Korean guys overlook because they think
they are too good for these "ordinary" girls. Because I am
a Caucasian, I didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell with
these girls, but because you are Korean, you can easily win
their heart, and their family's blessing, even if you have
handicap. No problem, because these girls' families are humble.
EGG
UR Ko Man
>Erik, you are wrong to presume that this girl is from a rich family.
>Her family is not rich. Her family is from Jinju, her father runs a
>small business. My point being was that I gave all my heart and soul
>to this girl, but in the end, I have found out that she was just taking
>an advantage of me. Yes, she used me to get the maximum joy. And I
what goes around comes around. weren't you trying to use her to? maybe she
was clever and knew what you were doing and decided that you were only for play
>feel like a shumuck for letting it happen. Most of these kinds students
>are from middle class families, and I know for fact they
>are exclusionary, even against humanity who were willing to help them.
>Time and time, I have seen this. It is true I am not from a rich family.
>But that's not the point. In these girls' eyes, I'm a failure, a damaged
>good because I do not have a perfect set of father and mother, ala
but if you had the potential to make it big on your own or if you had the
talent, then having poor parents is not a bad thing. again we date and when we
marry usually and hoepfully we do becasue we think theat we have found the
best. if the other is not stack up to the individual standards, then you move
on to the next one.
>50's style Leave it to Beaver. And plus the fact that I have a woman
>in her 50's who is paralysed to take care of, has also got something to
>do with it. I do not like to mention these things that can be exploited,
>but what can I say.
>
>
>
>>Solution: Find a Korean woman who is not rich but has made something out
>> of herself the same way you have........by work and merit.
>>
>
>That, my dear, is impossible. Korean culture does not believe in climbing
>through work and merit. Rather, it's who and where you were born into.
only the skillless and talentless think that way. if you have the skills and
talents you can do pretty well. specially in america.
>That's confuscianism at its finest.
>
>
>
>>I wonder if this would be more easily accomplished in Korea?
>>
>>Finaly, one more bit of B.S. and I will quit. If you let the next woman
>>see how pissed off you are about the last woman then you will fail.
>>
>>Peace
>>
>>
>
>My disillusionment with the relationships I've had comes from the way
>I have seen the attitude and cultural attitude of these girls.
>They are closed minded. Everything to them must translate to for them
>to get married to a "good man". And I will never be, in their eyes,
>a "good man". Screw them.
then why not try to improve yourself? it seems that you want to marry a korean
UR Ko Man
>Subject: Are there any good Korean girls out there?
>From: CHUCKY <west&eastsid...@msn.com>
>Date: Sun, Feb 8, 1998 17:43 EST
>Message-id: <34DE369D...@msn.com>
>
>That is the question. So far, most of them have been stuck up bitches
certain people are attracted to certain types of people. if you have only been
seen and known people of certain character, then you might want to look at
yourself and reinvent or improve yourself.
>who are sold on themseves. At least the ones I have known.
>Time is running out, I need to know if there are any who
>would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
>who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
everyone usually sees the other person for what he is. maybe they have
accepted your ability and who you are and decided taht you do not meet their
requirement for a potential husband.
>where he's educated, how are the mamma and pappa,
>how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
>Quick, time's running out. I was once proud my mother came
>from Korea, but now the time's running out. I will be like
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
are you half korean?
UR Ko Man
>Subject: Re: Are there any good Korean girls out there?
>From: jin...@aol.com (JinJJa)
>Date: Sun, Feb 8, 1998 21:40 EST
>Message-id: <19980209024...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>
>>That is the question. So far, most of them have been stuck up bitches
>>Time is running out, I need to know if there are any who
>>would accept a person for his abilities, for what and
>>who he is. And not for what kind of family he comes from,
>>how much money he has. I'm disillusioned with Koreans.
>>Quick, time's running out. I was once proud my mother came
>>from Korea, but now the time's running out. I will be like
>
>
>
>who
>is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about
>looks.
it's weird. even the ugliest of ugly guys think they have a shot with the
hottest korean woman. and korean guys look down on ugly ones. but when the
woman does that they whine. what goes around comes around. foolish guys think
that look is the most important qualilty in women and judge women based on
that. and some women use similar things to judege a man.
Edward S. Son
On 9 Feb 1998, JinJJa wrote:
>
> Korean women are gold diggers, WITHOUT an exception. To find a Korean woman who
> is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about looks.
>
> So if you are not rich and is a loser then you are worthless to Korean chicks.
> Ok? So get rich and buy those BMW and I promise that you will be able to screw
> some of those stuck up bitches.
Now this is a total generalization of the matter. Sure, SOME Korean women
are gold diggers and real meanies/bitches. I repeat, SOME, not ALL. Not
that this will really affect anyone, but I do know some Korean women who
are decent, my sister and many of my cousins. Yes, I do have a conflict
of interest here, but all I can ask is for you to trust me.
Anyway, finding a decent Korean woman (who is not related to you by
blood), is not an easy task. It requires a lot of patience and a strong
will. No one said it would be easy. My patience has run thin several
times. Took a while to build it back up. My advice, stay away from the
"singles market" for a while; it will allow you to cool down and "heal".
Edward S. Son
On 8 Feb 1998, it was written:
>
> Erik, you are wrong to presume that this girl is from a rich family.
> Her family is not rich. Her family is from Jinju, her father runs a
> small business. My point being was that I gave all my heart and soul
> to this girl, but in the end, I have found out that she was just taking
> an advantage of me. Yes, she used me to get the maximum joy. And I
> feel like a shumuck for letting it happen. Most of these kinds students
> are from middle class families, and I know for fact they
> are exclusionary, even against humanity who were willing to help them.
> Time and time, I have seen this. It is true I am not from a rich family.
> But that's not the point. In these girls' eyes, I'm a failure, a damaged
> good because I do not have a perfect set of father and mother, ala
> 50's style Leave it to Beaver. And plus the fact that I have a woman
> in her 50's who is paralysed to take care of, has also got something to
> do with it. I do not like to mention these things that can be exploited,
> but what can I say.
I'll agree with you here. You have to remember, and I'm sure you know
this CHUCKY, that Korean women from Korea (that is were born there and
recently immigrated to Canada or are visiting), are like this; they want
the perfect man. If they do not find one, they will just screw over the
first half-decent one they find.
> That, my dear, is impossible. Korean culture does not believe in climbing
> through work and merit. Rather, it's who and where you were born into.
> That's confuscianism at its finest.
Although I have never been to Korea (sadly), I'm sure things are not like
this. There still are decent hard-working people in the homeworld. Pop
culture and new-age philosophy views are screwing up the thinking of the
majority though.
> My disillusionment with the relationships I've had comes from the way
> I have seen the attitude and cultural attitude of these girls.
> They are closed minded. Everything to them must translate to for them
> to get married to a "good man". And I will never be, in their eyes,
> a "good man". Screw them.
This comes back to my posting on Korean women. I know I'll get flamed for
this, but what the hell; the cultural attitude that you are complaining
about is precisely the reason why I tend to take interest in Korean women
that were born in Canada (or North America), or at least immigrated to
Canada at a very young age. Basically, I am looking for a Canadian-Korean
woman, not a Korean-Canadian woman. Might I suggest you do the same?
Edward S. Son
On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Hati Choi wrote:
> Are you guys happy by saying so?
> What do you know about Korean women?
> How many of them have you met?
> If you have met only bitches, do you know why?
> Because you are he-dogs or sons of bitches.
> There is an Korean proverb.
> "Dogs can see only dogs."
>
> Don't generalize Korean women at random.
>
> There are some threads which make me really bored.
> Among them 'Why asian women go for....' is the worst.
> How shallow you are.
> Are you guys feel pleasure by ride over the dignity of women?
>
> I want to tell espcially to those asian guys who might have been
> experienced the unfair discrimination from whites.
> I guess, my feeling about these kind of insult is similar as those
> feelings.
I have never heard that proverb before. It is profound, but it does not
apply here.
Yes, there is a problem with generalizing here. Of course not ALL KOrean
women are bitches and other adjectives of that sort. So, if you do not
fall under the category of a "Bad Korean Woman", and I assume you do not
judging by your response, what's the problem?
Who knows? You may be the type we are looking for!
Hati Choi
>I have never heard that proverb before. It is profound, but it does not
>apply here.
It does apply here.
>
>Yes, there is a problem with generalizing here. Of course not ALL KOrean
>women are bitches and other adjectives of that sort. So, if you do not
>fall under the category of a "Bad Korean Woman", and I assume you do not
>judging by your response, what's the problem?
The problem is,... as a woman, I don't want to despise the other half
of the world.
>Who knows? You may be the type we are looking for!
Thanks.
Hati.
Daniel Donghoon Paik
In article <19980210051...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
UR Ko Man <urk...@aol.com> wrote:
>it's weird. even the ugliest of ugly guys think they have a shot with the
>hottest korean woman. and korean guys look down on ugly ones. but when the
>woman does that they whine. what goes around comes around. foolish guys think
>that look is the most important qualilty in women and judge women based on
>that. and some women use similar things to judege a man.
actually, in korea the ugliest of ugly guys do have a good chance with the
hottest korean women if they come from a good family. does anyone care if
the first son of the chairman of hyundai (chung ju-yong) is ugly? if he
were ugly, do you think he would have trouble finding a pretty wife?
of course when thinking of marriage your parents are going to start by
looking at your future wife's parents. that gives a good idea of her
upbringing, morals, etc. it's wrong to dismiss a guy's parents because
one has a handicap, but if his mom owns a brothel, obviously that's bad.
and if a guy's mom is handicapped and therefore the guy must take care of
her in the future, this is a big thing to worry about because the girl
must then take care of her. not every girl wants this burden. she may
have future aspirations to work and if this is the case, she may not be
able to work. this is not really a discrimination against a handicap but
more trying to decide what her future will be like and whether that's
acceptable or not.
don't shout "discrimination" when it's not necessarily so.
UR Ko Man
>
>don't shout "discrimination" when it's not necessarily so.
>
>Dan.
that's true. marraige is not a act of you don't get married to save or help
others. marriage should not be done out of pitty.
UR Ko Man
hey it's nice to live in your own world where you are the best person in it.
talk like you do and you'll never meet anyone "good." who would want to marry
a fool with the vocabulary of only limited range made up of foul language?
i've heard that people living in a illusionary world is generally happy. i
hope you have the mental aptitude to create a woman in your world and live
happily after.
UR Ko Man
>ubject: Re: Are there any good Korean girls out there?
>Date: Mon, Feb 9, 1998 22:14 EST
>Message-id: <Pine.SGI.3.96.98020...@skule.ecf>
>Anyway, finding a decent Korean woman (who is not related to you by
>blood), is not an easy task. It requires a lot of patience and a strong
>will. No one said it would be easy. My patience has run thin several
>times. Took a while to build it back up. My advice, stay away from the
>"singles market" for a while; it will allow you to cool down and "heal".
>
>Edward.
well the good women will be looking for good men. so good women will not give
the losers the time of the day.
UR Ko Man
>Egg, it sounds so simple. But it's easy for you. You can go back to
>dating white women. As for people like me, we're squeezed between
maybe you didn't realize before but there are white women who prefers asian
men.
>two places. New world culture that stereotypes Oriental men as
>undesirables, and the Old world culture that discriminates against
>people of divorced, handicapped, single parents, etc.
>I have seen the pattern emerging, and it's the fucking same thing
>over and over again. The question is, where the hell am I suppose to
>go from here? I'm deathly afraid that I will die alone.
perhaps start a little lower.
>
>
>
>
>>EGG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
UR Ko Man
>Subject: Re: Are there any good Korean girls out there?
>From: ws...@engin.umich.edu (William John Sowa)
>Date: Mon, Feb 9, 1998 23:55 EST
>Message-id: <6bomjc$b...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>
>like the persona that you appear to be in SCK.
>
>yoohaksaeng. The yoohaksaeng girls have this Princess Disease
>about graduating from a Western college and going back to
>Korea to meet rich successful Korean businessmen whose family
>may be impressed enough with her education to allow their son
>to marry her ( a sort of "I'm as powerful as my husband"
>mentality )
Maybe if they come out from reknown schools. not some english language
schools.
>
>What you need, CHUCKY, is sort of a "2ND CLASS KOREAN NATIONAL
>GIRL". A real genuine non-Westernized Korean girl who could
>not get into SNU, Ehwa, Yonsei, Koryo not because she was dumb,
>but because her family didn't have enough money to bribe anyone.
the college admission program in Korea is one of the things that is still fair.
it's true that rich people can afford better tutors for college entrance, but
still colege admission program is fair. so you don't bribe anyone to get in.
but some students might forfeit there place in some of the best schools because
they don't have the money to pay for school.
Edward S. Son
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Hati Choi wrote:
>
> >I have never heard that proverb before. It is profound, but it does not
> >apply here.
>
> It does apply here.
I don't think so. I like to think of myself as an open person. As far as
I am concerned, I am not making a short-sighted judgement here.
> >Yes, there is a problem with generalizing here. Of course not ALL KOrean
> >women are bitches and other adjectives of that sort. So, if you do not
> >fall under the category of a "Bad Korean Woman", and I assume you do not
> >judging by your response, what's the problem?
>
> The problem is,... as a woman, I don't want to despise the other half
> of the world.
You don't have to. I don't. Yes, I have had my misfortunes, and thus I
still harbour some bitter feelings towards those individuals. But I do
not hate all of those people in general. I merely try to avoid them.
Should there come a situation where I have to deal with them, I will do so
appropriately/calmly.
> >Who knows? You may be the type we are looking for!
>
> Thanks.
Your welcome.
> Hati.
CHUCKY
In article <6br03p$2bq$1...@agate.berkeley.edu>, uc...@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU
says...
>p.s. how many of you think that canada would make a decent 51st state
>someday? heh...j/k.
>--
Canada should invade Korea and take over the fucked up country.
Then Canada could teach Korea about the real meaning of life.
Then all the exploitation, lies, and corruption can be swept
away along with Confuscian superstitions. But don't invite
the first and 1.5 generation Korean immigrant gyopos.
They're even fucked up even worse. Besides, they're Korean
spies.
Mr.NT
William John Sowa wrote:
>
> <CHUCKY> wrote:
> >
> >Egg, it sounds so simple. But it's easy for you. You can go back to
> >dating white women. As for people like me, we're squeezed between
> >undesirables, and the Old world culture that discriminates against
> >people of divorced, handicapped, single parents, etc.
> >I have seen the pattern emerging, and it's the fucking same thing
> >over and over again. The question is, where the hell am I suppose to
> >go from here? I'm deathly afraid that I will die alone.
> >
>
> in USA like it was in the 1980's. Basically, I theorize that
> due to the recent appearance of many white women suddenly dating
> black men, it had an impact on the "eligibility of Asian men"
> as serious dating material. Of course, Asian Confucianism will
> never allow it, but in my opinion, many white women have suddenly
> "opened their minds" to young Asian men (mostly teenagers) in the
> last, say, 5 years, at least in my Midwest area of view.
> Actually, CHUCKY, I feel that there are many white women out there
> that would enjoy your personality, IF AND ONLY IF, you are really
>
> most Korean gyopo girls to be rather snobbish, looking for the
> richest gyopo boys they can find ( a sort of competition to see
> who can be the most richest "Western Korean" girl )
>
> yoohaksaeng. The yoohaksaeng girls have this Princess Disease
> about graduating from a Western college and going back to
> Korea to meet rich successful Korean businessmen whose family
> may be impressed enough with her education to allow their son
> to marry her ( a sort of "I'm as powerful as my husband"
> mentality )
>
> GIRL". A real genuine non-Westernized Korean girl who could
> not get into SNU, Ehwa, Yonsei, Koryo not because she was dumb,
> but because her family didn't have enough money to bribe anyone.
> Villa, she just wants to be loved by a Korean man who will not
> stay out all night and return to her in the morning with a soju
> hangover. I suggest you go to Korea and look around. There's
> floating around that Korean guys overlook because they think
> they are too good for these "ordinary" girls. Because I am
> a Caucasian, I didn't stand a snowball's chance in hell with
> these girls, but because you are Korean, you can easily win
> their heart, and their family's blessing, even if you have
> handicap. No problem, because these girls' families are humble.
>
> EGG
>
>
>
Gee... if Korean females are really that tough on Korean males as far as
not being considered "appropriate" family material, then I guess us
white guys are *really* screwed, huh? Pissing into the wind?
MrNT
William John Sowa
>this, but what the hell; the cultural attitude that you are complaining
>about is precisely the reason why I tend to take interest in Korean women
>that were born in Canada (or North America), or at least immigrated to
>Canada at a very young age. Basically, I am looking for a Canadian-Korean
>woman, not a Korean-Canadian woman. Might I suggest you do the same?
>
There's always Jenney Choi.
EGG
William John Sowa
>On Mon, 9 Feb 1998, Hati Choi wrote:
>
>> Are you guys happy by saying so?
>> What do you know about Korean women?
>> How many of them have you met?
>> If you have met only bitches, do you know why?
>> Because you are he-dogs or sons of bitches.
>> There is an Korean proverb.
>> "Dogs can see only dogs."
>>
That's a pretty cool saying. There's only one problem,
though. Even if you think you are so great that you
can spot the best mate for you so easily, experience
has showed two things will happen: The one you
rejected turns out to actually be good, or,
The one you chase after actually turns out to be
bad.
Chuang Tze says, "If a person has a question, and
that person receives an answer to that question
from another person, now they BOTH don't know the
truth."
The fact is that you and I and we all don't know
who is a bitch, who is an asshole, who is an angel,
who is a prince, who is a princess, WE DON'T KNOW.
The only way to find out is sometimes through
painful experience.
I say, "Dogs can see only dogs" ONLY AFTER they
realize what is a dog, and what is a cat.
EGG << The NEW Chuang Tze >>
Daniel Donghoon Paik
In article <6bqvjf$c...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>,
heh...pretty funny. but canada is a pretty big country (largest in the
world now that the USSR is gone) and toronto and vancouver are pretty far
away. all of the cute girls in detroit (and ann arbor) would be closer
for edward here.
i'm still puzzled though because i know a handful of korean girls in
toronto and they are all pretty cool.
Dan.
p.s. how many of you think that canada would make a decent 51st state
someday? heh...j/k.
--
William John Sowa
>UR Ko Man <urk...@aol.com> wrote:
>>it's weird. even the ugliest of ugly guys think they have a shot with the
>>hottest korean woman. and korean guys look down on ugly ones. but when the
>>woman does that they whine. what goes around comes around. foolish guys think
>>that look is the most important qualilty in women and judge women based on
>>that. and some women use similar things to judege a man.
>
>actually, in korea the ugliest of ugly guys do have a good chance with the
>hottest korean women if they come from a good family. does anyone care if
>the first son of the chairman of hyundai (chung ju-yong) is ugly? if he
>were ugly, do you think he would have trouble finding a pretty wife?
>
That's a very good point; in Korea ugly guys are not "ugly" at all
if they come from the "prerequisite family background" and meet all
"prerequisite marriage material factors".
One thing about white girls, is that they are highly visually demanding.
EGG
William John Sowa
In article <19980210205...@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
Yet, there is a good feeling in your heart to know you married
in order to help someone live their life in happiness.
Many love marriages end in divorce, but can you name one marriage
where the spouse married a handicapped spouse to help them, but
they ended up divorcing and abandoning them? Not very likely.
Sacrifice is powerful.
EGG
Hahna Kang
William John Sowa <ws...@engin.umich.edu> wrote:
>One thing about white girls, is that they are highly visually demanding.
>
>EGG
so i guess that means you cant date white girls... ?
not that any of them can decide for themselves, since you
never go around to posting that photo that you promised
to post...
h.
William John Sowa
apak <ap...@leahi.aloha.com> wrote:
>JinJJa (jin...@aol.com) wrote:
>: Korean women are gold diggers, WITHOUT an exception. To find a Korean woman who
>: is not a gold digger is like finding a Korean man who doesn't care about looks.
>
Oh your such a genius, apak. Ever hear of a term, "Generation Gap",
Professor Brain ????
EGG
William John Sowa
Hi Hahna. What I meant to say is that suppose a white girl's
parents attempted to set her up for a "sogaeting" with an
extremely affluent and politically powerful man for the purpose
of eventually leading to marriage between the two families,
but this man is really ugly and fat and disgusting (by Western
beauty standards "ugly" for the white girl and by Eastern beauty
standards "ugly" for the Korean girl)
Here's the Big Difference:
Korean Girl: She will honor her parents and at least do the
"sogaeting", then do the rejection after fight
with her parents, unless she herself is seeking
high status, then she may accept his proposal.
White Girl: She will tell her parents "There is NO WAY that
I will ever meet that man, even if it means I
would become rich for the rest of my life",
then she will fight with her parents and say,
"Stay out of my love life."
Not all girls are the same, I'm just making blatant stereotypes
and generalizations, but I think that this is what would
generally happen, don't you?
EGG << I Didn't Post My Picture, So You Can Only Imagine Me
In Your Dreams, Hahna..... >>
m.sa...@ic.ac.uk
Mr.NT wrote:
>
> Gee... if Korean females are really that tough on Korean males as far as
> not being considered "appropriate" family material, then I guess us
> white guys are *really* screwed, huh? Pissing into the wind?
>
> MrNT
You bet your sweet ass. I wouldn't say that all my faliure with Korean
women can be blamed on my being white but as a Korean female friend once
told a third person "If we were in Korea there is no way I'd be able to
sit with a Bristish man alone having coffee". Makes you think.
If you don't have the Korean genes you're screwed.
[Right now I have a lovely (although somewhat self-centred) girlfriend
from Okinawa - that relationship's not without it's problems I can tell
you]
Matthew
Richard Lee
CHUCKY scribbled:
: I have seen the pattern emerging, and it's the fucking same thing
: over and over again. The question is, where the hell am I suppose to
: go from here?
Hey, foolio, that's what going to nudie bars with your drunken buddies are
for. "Sex Trek: The Final Orgasm" is also a good choice (trust me on
this one).
Richard Lee
--
My crappy homepage is http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Classroom/2169
William John Sowa
In article <6br5of$h...@drn.zippo.com>, <CHUCKY> wrote:
>In article <34E115...@nospam.technologist.com>, "Mr.NT" says...
>>
>>
>>Gee... if Korean females are really that tough on Korean males as far as
>>not being considered "appropriate" family material, then I guess us
>>white guys are *really* screwed, huh? Pissing into the wind?
>>
>
>handicaps of any kind, including speech, accidental, mental, or any
>other impediments, has a tremendous advantage over a Korean guy with
>parents either divorced, dead, separated, or handicapped.
>
>Of course, the white guy must be a decent law abiding, tax paying,
>workaholic. But this won't help the Korean guy. The white guy has
>a 20% chance of scoring with the parents. The Korean guy has about
>1% chance of scoring with the parents. And of course, if you're white,
>and have the same bad circumstances as the Korean guy, your chances
>are -999%.
>
>
Let me add that white parents aren't always so keen on the idea
of their children marrying Asians, either.
EGG
Richard Lee
William John Sowa (ws...@engin.umich.edu) scribbled:
: Daniel Donghoon Paik <uc...@soda.CSUA.Berkeley.EDU> wrote:
: >this is especially true from the girl's parent's point of view. would
: >you want your daughter to marry a guy how is 30, living with his
: >parents, and working at their laudromat? can you trust that guy to
: >give your daughter a happy life?
: You think all ivy league grads are gods ???
: Some of the biggest assholes in the world graduated from ivy league.
: I'd take a laundry girl anyday over a stuck up pompous daddy's girl
: who thinks she actually deserved her BMW.
True.
Gotta agree with Sowa on this one. I personally hate most college
biatches myself. Especially stupid freshman and sophomore bitches who
think the world revolves around them (and who also have everything paid
for with benefits by momsy and dadsy). I hate rich people, but what I
hate more are people who act rich and spend money like water when they
shouldn't. College bitches of any race, esp. 18 and 19 year old bitches,
do this all the freaking time. Especially sorority bitches. Chicks turn
cool when they start working and see how low they really are in life.
Then, they're all right.
18 and 19 year old waitresses, secretaries, and store clerks are much
better in the head than 18 and 19 year old college bitch princesses.
Again, not picking on Koreans, but all bitches of all races in general.
22 and 23 year old college chicks generally have gotten past the bitch
phase, though.
So, basically, date older women. The older, the better.
Richard Lee
CHUCKY scribbled:
: I am not a laundro mat worker, but I am simply amazed at such Korean
: bigotry against people who work hard and who do an honest day's job.
: Not everyone can be a airplane engineer. If you need dry cleaning,
: who are you going to go to? airplane engineer? These same Korean
: social stuck-ups won't let their daughters and sons marry a person
: who works at laundry, but they are the first ones to go to a lundry
: dry cleaning when they need to press their suites. It's simply bigotry
You know as well as anyone else that the class system is deeply ingrained
into the thinking of most Koreans, regardless of whether that person is
Korean American, Korean Canadian, or a Korean person living in Korea.
People, if they're Korean, try to find ways in conversation to snip in the
fact that they are descended from yangban or how much money a relative
makes or what school their parents or their kids graduated from. Yah,
it's stupid, but what I find amusing about it is that people get really
sensitive about it when they do NOT have anything to brag about. That
just keeps this kind of stupid thinking flowing.
Take this Jaghia retard, for example. Ok, so he's around 30 and works in
his parents' dry cleaners. No big deal. Whatever. He's working and
doing something, as opposed to sitting on his ass picking his nose all day
(which he probably still does, btw). But, of course when I point this out
to him, he goes berserk and feels the need to start following up every one
of my posts that mention this in order to "defend" himself. Obviously,
it's an issue with him and a very big sore spot, as he has a complex about
it.
And, take you and Sowa, for example, also. Now, I don't mean this to be
another insult (well, heh, it probably is), but you guys are very vague
and furtive about your actual real life details. You have revealed very
little honest information about yourselves via this newsgroup, which is
surprising considering the huge volume of posts you two have put up. All
this points to is a feeling of shame/embarrassment you share about
yourselves and a refusal to divulge for fear of being looked down upon.
Again, though, even though you would probably be made fun of, it's nothing
new to you guys (seeing as how you guys seem to like that), and it'd
probably be forgotten after a while. But, you keep up your charade and
the whole Korean thinking method of placing value on relative "classes"
keeps chugging along.
It's just a national immaturity and more signs of a "prolonged
adolescence," as Cumings calls it, that Koreans, especially dumb ones,
suffer from. Personally, I think, out of the Koreans in Korea, the males
suffer from it more (as they are pampered in society by their moms and
their wives and their mistresses), but in America and Canada (which is
actually just an extension of America), the females suffer from it more
because females of a non-white race are always more easily assimilated
(and thus more pampered and sheltered and petty).
And, that Korean male-bashing and gyopo female-bashing was your lesson for
today.
William John Sowa
Richard Lee <lo...@fish.hooked.net> wrote:
>
>So, basically, date older women. The older, the better.
>
This is the second time in SCK history that I have
agreed with Richard Lee. Mark this down in the SCK FAQ.
EGG
m.sa...@ic.ac.uk
And don't go for cute either, I don't mean that physically less
attractive girls have lower standards than cute one, there's just less
competition.
Conversation from my college days:
Me: Hey Ed, Going to Si's party on Saturday ? You never know, there
might be some cute girls there.
Ed: F**k that ! I don't want someone cute, I want someone that would go
out with me !
Matthew
Motto: "Snatching defeat from the jaws of success"
Joel A. Hurewitz
On 11 Feb 1998, Richard Lee wrote:
SNIP
> True.
>
> Gotta agree with Sowa on this one.
>
> Richard Lee
>
>
I have no idea what to make of this.
stunned,
Joel
http://nimbus.temple.edu/~jhurewit
http://www.metro.seoul.kr
Daniel Donghoon Paik
In article <6bs72a$pt8$2...@its.hooked.net>,
Richard Lee <lo...@fish.hooked.net> wrote:
>18 and 19 year old waitresses, secretaries, and store clerks are much
>better in the head than 18 and 19 year old college bitch princesses.
>Again, not picking on Koreans, but all bitches of all races in general.
>22 and 23 year old college chicks generally have gotten past the bitch
>phase, though.
yeah, you're sorta right on this one. those 18 and 19 year olds that
don't know the value of money are annoying as hell.
but the waitresses, secretaries, and store clerk types tend to be
nagging...like they start complaining that i waste money when i buy stuff
for myself...
A: "i'm thinking of getting a snowboard."
B: "how much is it?"
A: "it's on sale so it's going to be around $550"
B: "$550? that's my rent for two months!!! what a waste! (gets pissed)
A: "yeah whatever..."
beware...these are the girls you marry and you always end up buying cheap
cars, houses in the bad neighborhoods, eating generic food...no matter how
much money you make.
Dan.
Daniel Donghoon Paik
In article <6bs8up$i...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>,
>agreed with Richard Lee. Mark this down in the SCK FAQ.
what was the first time again? did you agree with him one of those times
when he called you a old, fat, loser?
Daniel Donghoon Paik
In article <6br0iq$d...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>,
>if they come from the "prerequisite family background" and meet all
>"prerequisite marriage material factors".
i remember when i first went to korea, i was watching a coca cola
commercial on tv.
here in the US, it was those typical jock guys and girls hanging out
drinking coke.
in korea, it was a group of nerds studying, drinking coke, and then
getting good grades.
those nerds are the cool guys in korea.
Talkyal
>From: lo...@fish.hooked.net (Richard Lee)
>And, take you and Sowa, for example, also. Now, I don't mean >this to be
another insult (well, heh, it probably is), but you guys >are very vague and
furtive about your actual real life details. >You have revealed very little
honest information about >yourselves via this newsgroup, which is surprising
considering >the huge volume of posts you two have put up. All this points to
>is a feeling of shame/embarrassment you share about yourselves >and a refusal
to divulge for fear of being looked down upon.
>Again, though, even though you would probably be made fun of, >it's nothing
new to you guys (seeing as how you guys seem to >like that), and it'd probably
be forgotten after a while. But, you >keep up your charade and the whole
Korean thinking method of >placing value on relative "classes" keeps chugging
along.
>
Another classic idiotic Dicky Lee post.
Did it ever occur to you Idiot Boy, that people DON'T WANT
TO KNOW about me, or CHUCKY, or whoever?
In fact, if we were to take a survey, here, I'm sure most people
would want you to shut up talking about other people, and
concentrate more on Korean culture, which is supposed to
be the name of this newsgroup.
EGG << soc.CULTURE.korean Fan Club >>
Hyok-Jon Kwon
On 11 Feb 1998, Daniel Donghoon Paik wrote:
> in korea, it was a group of nerds studying, drinking coke, and then
> getting good grades.
>
> those nerds are the cool guys in korea.
>
Well, thank you for pointing that out, Dan.
a cool guy
Edward S. Son
On 11 Feb 1998, William John Sowa wrote:
> Edward S. Son <s...@ecf.toronto.edu> wrote:
> >
> >This comes back to my posting on Korean women. I know I'll get flamed for
> >this, but what the hell; the cultural attitude that you are complaining
> >about is precisely the reason why I tend to take interest in Korean women
> >that were born in Canada (or North America), or at least immigrated to
> >Canada at a very young age. Basically, I am looking for a Canadian-Korean
> >woman, not a Korean-Canadian woman. Might I suggest you do the same?
> >
>
> There's always Jenney Choi.
I am not in the habit of pursuing women I have never met, or barely know
for that matter. All I know of Ms. Choi is her postings, her responses to
my postings, and our occasional disagreements.
Besides, I'm here in Toronto, she's halfway across the country in
Edmonton.
Edward S. Son
On 11 Feb 1998, Daniel Donghoon Paik wrote:
> >There's always Jenney Choi.
>
> heh...pretty funny. but canada is a pretty big country (largest in the
> world now that the USSR is gone) and toronto and vancouver are pretty far
> away. all of the cute girls in detroit (and ann arbor) would be closer
> for edward here.
>
> i'm still puzzled though because i know a handful of korean girls in
> toronto and they are all pretty cool.
Well, you have better luck than I do. Tell me where I should go and I'll
give it a shot.
> p.s. how many of you think that canada would make a decent 51st state
> someday? heh...j/k.
NEVER! VIVE LE CANADA!
Edward S. Son
On 10 Feb 1998, it was written:
> Canada should invade Korea and take over the fucked up country.
> Then Canada could teach Korea about the real meaning of life.
> Then all the exploitation, lies, and corruption can be swept
> away along with Confuscian superstitions. But don't invite
> the first and 1.5 generation Korean immigrant gyopos.
> They're even fucked up even worse. Besides, they're Korean
> spies.
WHOA there! I know you're ticked, but eating paranoia for breakfast isn't
going to help you. There are better ways to express your anger.
Hati Choi
On 10 Feb 1998 03:50:18 GMT, ws...@engin.umich.edu (William John Sowa)
wrote:
>You think all ivy league grads are gods ???
>Some of the biggest assholes in the world graduated from ivy league.
>I'd take a laundry girl anyday over a stuck up pompous daddy's girl
>who thinks she actually deserved her BMW.
>
>EGG
>
Wasn't it you?
Who is always talking about first class Korean girl, or girls
graduated from Sky(SNU, Koryo, Yeonse) or Ehwa sth?
To Egg who failed to get a first class Korean girlfriend.
From Hati
William John Sowa
Hati Choi <hotn...@chollian.net> wrote:
>>
>Wasn't it you?
>Who is always talking about first class Korean girl, or girls
>graduated from Sky(SNU, Koryo, Yeonse) or Ehwa sth?
>
>To Egg who failed to get a first class Korean girlfriend.
>
>From Hati
Thank you. But, if I were a Korean guy, I could get one.
Also, where do Koreans rate you on the Korean-girl-class-system
scale?
EGG
Daniel Donghoon Paik
In article <6c2kqm$c...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>,
William John Sowa <ws...@engin.umich.edu> wrote:
>>Wasn't it you?
>>Who is always talking about first class Korean girl, or girls
>>graduated from Sky(SNU, Koryo, Yeonse) or Ehwa sth?
>>To Egg who failed to get a first class Korean girlfriend.
that might be true....on paper you might seem decent...studying
engineering at umich....but then they'll get to your old age and physical
appearance and probably pass. after all, older korean guys (>30) have
trouble finding girlfriends too unless they are a first class korean male.
>Also, where do Koreans rate you on the Korean-girl-class-system
>scale?
she is working hard to maintain korean holidays.....that tells me that
she's active and wants to be in the action rather than an observer. but i
don't know how that would correlate with her on the
korean-girl-class-system.
Hati Choi
On 13 Feb 1998 23:26:14 GMT, ws...@engin.umich.edu (William John Sowa)
wrote:
>Thank you. But, if I were a Korean guy, I could get one.
>
>Also, where do Koreans rate you on the Korean-girl-class-system
>scale?
>
>EGG
>
I'm not for sale. Don't need to be classified.
Jaghia
Have you seen "Indecent Proposal" starring Demi Moore? A whore by any other
name is a whore.
In article <6br34b$g...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, ws...@engin.umich.edu (William
John Sowa) writes:
>
>Hi Hahna. What I meant to say is that suppose a white girl's
>parents attempted to set her up for a "sogaeting" with an
>extremely affluent and politically powerful man for the purpose
>of eventually leading to marriage between the two families,
>but this man is really ugly and fat and disgusting (by Western
>beauty standards "ugly" for the white girl and by Eastern beauty
>standards "ugly" for the Korean girl)
>Here's the Big Difference:
>
>Korean Girl: She will honor her parents and at least do the
> "sogaeting", then do the rejection after fight
> with her parents, unless she herself is seeking
> high status, then she may accept his proposal.
>
>White Girl: She will tell her parents "There is NO WAY that
> I will ever meet that man, even if it means I
> would become rich for the rest of my life",
> then she will fight with her parents and say,
> "Stay out of my love life."
>
>Not all girls are the same, I'm just making blatant stereotypes
>and generalizations, but I think that this is what would
>generally happen, don't you?
>
>
>EGG << I Didn't Post My Picture, So You Can Only Imagine Me
> In Your Dreams, Hahna..... >>
>
>
_
P.S. This lame AOL newsreader doesn't allow cross-posting. If you wish to
follow my thread, do it in soc.culture.korean or crosspost mine.
P.P.S. To those lamers who send dumbass remarks, I reserve the right to publish
your emails on the newsgroup.
William John Sowa
Jaghia <jag...@aol.com> wrote:
>Have you seen "Indecent Proposal" starring Demi Moore?
>A whore by any other
>name is a whore.
Well, I got crispy-fried flamed when I said that Dodi Fayeed
had bought Princess Diana's boji.
That's the way I saw it. What do you think?
I even made the bold statement, any foreigner tycoon with
enough money (billions $US) could "buy" a Korean chaebol's
daughter, and even a Korean chaebol's eldest son (!!!) could
marry a foreign woman, if she has enough billions of dollars.
Which goes to show that even Confucius isn't powerful enough
to create a social philosophy that can't be bought with money.
EGG << LeAnn Rimes-Samsung t.v. commercial Fan Club >>
EGG <<LeAnn Rimes-Samsung t.v. commercial Fan Club>>
William John Sowa
Jaghia <jag...@aol.com> wrote:
>I would disagree with you. Diana was no pauperess. I think she was a genuine
>naive girl who didn't get love from her ex-husband, got screwed by her
>boyfriend, got disenchanted by the whole British royal family, and didn't give
>a shit whether she went out with a dark skinned person. On the other hand, I
>think all this hoopla in the media about some rich snotty well-to-do bitch is a
>waste of people's time and money.
>
I don't know, I've just always wondered why rich multi-millionaires
always go for "high profile international figure girls". Like,
it's not that they are worried about losing their money to a
hillbilly girl, it's that they think their courtship has to always
be a "high profile image" for the world to take notice of them.
Have you ever noticed how Korean chaebol sons always seem to
date/marry Korean movie actresses??? I mean, why? Can't they
just meet "nice plain rich girls" ????
William John Sowa
>engineering at umich....but then they'll get to your old age and physical
>appearance and probably pass. after all, older korean guys (>30) have
>trouble finding girlfriends too unless they are a first class korean male.
Well you know me, I've always harbored the stereotype that
elder Korean men, if rich enough, can get young Korean girls
with the snap of their fingers. Whereas, elder white men
still have trouble "catching" a young white girl.
>>Also, where do Koreans rate you on the Korean-girl-class-system
>>scale?
>
>she is working hard to maintain korean holidays.....that tells me that
>she's active and wants to be in the action rather than an observer. but i
>don't know how that would correlate with her on the
>korean-girl-class-system.
>
Actually, 1st class Korean men, like chaebol sons, don't like
Korean girls that are yoohaksaeng in American/Can universities.
Check me out on this one: ask a high level Korean guy if I'm
not right.
Jaghia
Write with quality in mind and not quantity, dude. You were talking about
Diana, before. Now, you have shifted to Dodi. Which one is it that you are
claiming, was selling her boji for money??? Dodi doesn't have a boji. Does he?
In article <6d5alh$9...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, ws...@engin.umich.edu (William
John Sowa) writes:
>EGG << LeAnn Rimes-Samsung t.v. commercial Fan Club >>
>
>
Richard Lee
William John Sowa (ws...@engin.umich.edu) whined and sulked:
: I don't know, I've just always wondered why rich multi-millionaires
: always go for "high profile international figure girls". Like,
: it's not that they are worried about losing their money to a
: hillbilly girl, it's that they think their courtship has to always
: be a "high profile image" for the world to take notice of them.
: Have you ever noticed how Korean chaebol sons always seem to
: date/marry Korean movie actresses??? I mean, why? Can't they
: just meet "nice plain rich girls" ????
Gee, I dunno, man. I guess it's kind of like why bigtime movie actors and
rock stars always seem to go for supermodels (see Cindy Crawford, Christie
Brinkley, Jerry Hall, Iman, Naomi Campbell, Tyra Banks, Stephanie Seymour,
Rachel Hunter). Why? Because they can.
William John Sowa
Jaghia <jag...@aol.com> wrote:
>Write with quality in mind and not quantity, dude. You were talking about
>Diana, before. Now, you have shifted to Dodi. Which one is it that you are
>claiming, was selling her boji for money??? Dodi doesn't have a boji. Does he?
>
I still say Dodi bought Diana's boji. But, you are right about
her being vulnerable at the time.
You see, Jaghia, that's what you need: a girl who has just been
dumped by her ex-boyfriend.
Jaghia
Regardless of what Dodi's motives were when he went out with Diana, I don't
think Diana was teethering on the verge of poverty and was attracted to Dodi
only for his wealth.
And about me needing a girl who is on a rebound, I tried it once and it's a bad
idea.
In article <6d7t32$q...@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>, ws...@engin.umich.edu (William
John Sowa) writes:
>I still say Dodi bought Diana's boji. But, you are right about
>her being vulnerable at the time.
>You see, Jaghia, that's what you need: a girl who has just been
>dumped by her ex-boyfriend.
JinJJa
>Have you ever noticed how Korean chaebol sons always seem to
>date/marry Korean movie actresses??? I mean, why? Can't they
>just meet "nice plain rich girls" ????
>
>
This is an interesting point. With few exceptions, sons of chaebols are stupid
and spoiled. If you were a beautiful rich girl, would you want a man who has
shit for brains? I don't think so. Rich beautiful woman want an intelligent and
handsome man with high morals and standards. So they don't go for those stupid
chaebol brats. Of course, beautiful actresses want chaebol brats because
actresses are gold digger supremes.
Jinsoo
Chris Ok
JinJJa (jin...@aol.com) wrote:
: >Have you ever noticed how Korean chaebol sons always seem to
: >date/marry Korean movie actresses??? I mean, why? Can't they
: >just meet "nice plain rich girls" ????
: >
: >
: This is an interesting point. With few exceptions, sons of chaebols are stupid
: and spoiled. If you were a beautiful rich girl, would you want a man who has
How can you be so sure like that? My father has worked with some sons of
chaebols. Actually, my father was their direct boss. Not any more, though,
cause they got promoted super-fast. My father told me they were
well-educated(they all went to good US college), nice not spoiled. In
fact, President Jung didn't give them too much money. They even borrowed
some money from my father in person. I think the president didn't give too
much money to teach them the value of money on purpose. My father told me
that they were less passionate than their father in managing companies.
But I don't get hold against them.
Chris
: shit for brains? I don't think so. Rich beautiful woman want an intelligent and
: handsome man with high morals and standards. So they don't go for those stupid
: chaebol brats. Of course, beautiful actresses want chaebol brats because
: actresses are gold digger supremes.
: Jinsoo
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gt5...@prism.gatech.edu