South Koreans Struggle With Race
P. Rajah
South Koreans Struggle With Race
By CHOE SANG-HUN
Published: November 1, 2009
SEOUL � On the evening of July 10, Bonogit Hussain, a 29-year-old Indian
man, and Hahn Ji-seon, a female Korean friend, were riding a bus near
Seoul when a man in the back began hurling racial and sexist slurs at them.
The situation would be a familiar one to many Korean women who have
dated or even � as in Ms. Hahn�s case � simply traveled in the company
of a foreign man.
What was different this time, however, was that, once it was reported in
the South Korean media, prosecutors sprang into action, charging the man
they have identified only as a 31-year-old Mr. Park with contempt, the
first time such charges had been applied to an alleged racist offense.
Spurred by the case, which is pending in court, rival political parties
in Parliament have begun drafting legislation that for the first time
would provide a detailed definition of discrimination by race and
ethnicity and impose criminal penalties.
[.........]
In South Korea, a country repeatedly invaded and subjugated by its
bigger neighbors, people�s racial outlooks have been colored by
�pure-blood� nationalism as well as traditional patriarchal mores, said
Seol Dong-hoon, a sociologist at Chonbuk National University.
Centuries ago, when Korean women who had been taken to China as war
prizes and forced into sexual slavery managed to return home, their
communities ostracized them as tainted. In the last century, Korean
�comfort women,� who worked as sex slaves for the Japanese Imperial
Army, faced a similar stigma. Later, women who sold sex to American
G.I.�s in the years following the 1950-53 Korean War were despised even
more. Their children were shunned as �twigi,� a term once reserved for
animal hybrids, said Bae Gee-cheol, 53, whose mother was expelled from
her family after she gave birth to him following her rape by an American
soldier.
[.........]
For many Koreans, the first encounter with non-Asians came during the
Korean War, when American troops fought on the South Korean side. That
experience has complicated South Koreans� racial perceptions, Mr. Seol
said. Today, the mix of envy and loathing of the West, especially of
white Americans, is apparent in daily life.
The government and media obsess over each new report from the
Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, to see how the
country ranks against other developed economies. A hugely popular
television program is �Chit Chat of Beautiful Ladies� � a show where
young, attractive, mostly Caucasian women who are fluent in Korean
discuss South Korea. Yet, when South Koreans refer to Americans in
private conversations, they nearly always attach the same suffix as when
they talk about the Japanese and Chinese, their historical masters:
�nom,� which means �bastards.� Tammy Chu, 34, a Korean-born film
director who was adopted by Americans and grew up in New York State,
said she had been �scolded and yelled at� in Seoul subways for speaking
in English and thus �not being Korean enough.� Then, she said, her
applications for a job as an English teacher were rejected on the
grounds that she was �not white enough.�
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/world/asia/02race.html?pagewanted=1&_r=1&th&emc=th
Gods and Monkeys
> South Koreans Struggle With Race
> http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/02/world/asia/02race.html?pagewanted=1...
Good one Raja! Not an unfair picture of Korea.
Koreans have a clarity of feeling with regard to other Koreans
that is not really possible in a multi-race, multi-ethnic country.
Koreans
will fight hard to preserve this and the world should respect
the effort.
OTOH, Koreans know that they (even as really splendid as the country
is)
have to engage a tortured, changing world outside.
But Koreans have a secret weapon- the Korean language. A very
unique language (poorly taught, and very hard to acquire)
that keeps the walls very high, very strong. Let
English be the language of the raggedy ass, intercoursing world,
Korean
will always be for Koreans.
Dr. Sir John Howard, AC, WSCMoF
They can keep their stinkin' kimchi too.
--
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ipvdBnU8F8
- KRudd at his finest.
"The Labour Party is corrupt beyond redemption!"
- Labour hasbeen Mark Latham in a moment of honest clarity.
"This is the recession we had to have!"
- Paul Keating explaining why he gave Australia another Labour recession.
"Silly old bugger!"
- Well known ACTU pisspot and sometime Labour prime minister Bob Hawke
responding to a pensioner who dared ask for more.
"By 1990, no child will live in poverty"
- Bob Hawke again, desperate to win another election.
"A billion trees ..."
- Borke, pissed as a newt again.
"Well may we say 'God save the Queen' because nothing will save the governor
general!"
- Egotistical shithead and pompous fuckwit E.G. Whitlam whining about his
appointee for Governor General John Kerr.
"SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU DUMB CUNT!"
- FlangesBum on learning the truth about Labour's economic capabilities.
"I don't care what you fuckers think!"
- KRudd the KRude at his finest again.
"We'll just change it all when we get in."
- Garrett the carrott
P. Rajah
Apparently the Koreans consider the Chinese to be an inferior race.
ltlee1
Don't be rediculus.
Half of China's foreign students come from South Korea.
If Koreans consider the Chinese inferior, why would the parents send
their kids to Chinese colleges?
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -
ltlee1
Many of them are eager to have their kids learn Chinese. The Japan
language also use Han characters. College students need to master
1800 Han characters to gruduate. The standard was raised to 2100
characters recently.
Gods and Monkeys
> Gods and Monkeys wrote:
>
> Apparently the Koreans consider the Chinese to be an inferior race.-
It's not so simple Raja.
Lots of Chinese language signs in Korea, lots of Koreans learning
Chinese.
Nice combo effect starting up in NE Asia. Both are Confucian countries
and history has shown Confucius kicks Jesus's ass. See Korean War,
Vietnam War, Hawaii, UCLA, SAT scores, etc.
P. Rajah
Read the article:
"Centuries ago, when Korean women who had been taken to China as war
prizes and forced into sexual slavery managed to return home, their
communities ostracized them as tainted."
"Even today, the North Korean authorities often force abortion on women
who return home pregnant after going to China to find food, according to
defectors and human rights groups."
"..when South Koreans refer to Americans in private conversations, they
RichAsianKid
The article nicely concluded with:
"Our ethnic homogeneity is a blessing,� said one of the critics, Lee
Sung-bok, a bricklayer who said his job was threatened by migrant
workers. �If they keep flooding in, who can guarantee our country won�t
be torn apart by ethnic war as in Sri Lanka?�
* * *
In spite of society's best efforts, the diversity experiment in Europe
and America is failing right in front of our eyes with the metastasizing
of third world enclaves in their major cities.
Now, Lee Sung Bok may well be a simple bricklayer. But he does have
common sense.
And he didn't build Korea just to give it away.
Gods and Monkeys
>
> In spite of society's best efforts, the diversity experiment in Europe
> and America is failing right in front of our eyes with the metastasizing
> of third world enclaves in their major cities.
>
> Now, Lee Sung Bok may well be a simple bricklayer. But he does have
> common sense.
>
> And he didn't build Korea just to give it away.-
One thing about Koreans: they don't really give a shit
what the lawyers tell them is the right way.The police
in Korea are Koreans first, internationalists 9th, or 15th, whatever.
The police don't really give a shit what the lawyers say either.
Koreans are a visual people. Eyes first, ears second. In the West,
-where people have ripped their eyes out- it's all through the ears.
The Jews, feminists,
the Protestant Denomination of the Year, lawyers, talky marketing
bullshitters win.
P. Rajah
Yeah, the Koreans do have commonsense:
They call the Chinese �nom,� which means �bastards". [see above]
Not without good reason, I would assume.
Oh, and about migrant workers taking up the jobs of locals:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/international-business/India-to-Chinese-investors-No-more-visas-hire-Indians/articleshow/5018993.cms
P. Rajah
RichAsianKid
Very nicely put, eyes vs ears, or instinct (honed in by millennia of
natural selection) vs verbally constructed liberal fantasy merely 50
years ago.
Haven't verified this but there are apparently more lawyers in
California than the whole of Japan. Many Japanese/Koreans/Chinese do
business with a handshake, not with some hired 6-member lawyer team with
contracts in xeroxed triplicate.
And I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how any 100,000 word
essays or 21-volume encyclopedia will convince me that I should love my
brother (or child or parent) as much as some foreign distant stranger.
Blood is still thicker than water.
Again, eyes vs ears.
And in my view Korea is better and stronger that way.
Gods and Monkeys
>
> Very nicely put, eyes vs ears, or instinct (honed in by millennia of
> natural selection) vs verbally constructed liberal fantasy merely 50
> years ago.
>
> Haven't verified this but there are apparently more lawyers in
> California than the whole of Japan. Many Japanese/Koreans/Chinese do
> business with a handshake, not with some hired 6-member lawyer team with
> contracts in xeroxed triplicate.
>
> And I'm still waiting for someone to explain to me how any 100,000 word
> essays or 21-volume encyclopedia will convince me that I should love my
> brother (or child or parent) as much as some foreign distant stranger.
> Blood is still thicker than water.
>
> Again, eyes vs ears.
>
> And in my view Korea is better and stronger that way.-
It's the deep, deep problem of a constructed world. When you
build, you cover. Buildings and architecture deceive. Books
get in the way of instincts, holy books kill instinct. One reason
white women love niggers and criminals- men who are (apparently)
closest
to their basic desires. Television, media, movies, once friendly to
white people,
are now enemies of white identity. TV, once a toy, now a killer. LOL.
White people don't want to be settled and manipulated into living with
non-whites, any more than natives anywhere wanted to be dispossessed.
But the process of white dispossession is complex one. Not well
understood
by white people themselves. At least not yet. Eurasian Slavs seem to
understand
it so much better than island WASPs. Eventually, WASPs, as they become
more and more marginalized will settle into the Slavic mindset.(This
is not a bad thing).
Provided they can overcome Jew hectoring. Which is a big if!
RichAsianKid
> Indian Govt not to encourage visa applications of unskilled foreign workers
>
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Govt-not-to-encourage-visa-applications-of-unskilled-foreign-workers/articleshow/5073515.cms
>
Almost sounds like India's the next Malaysia?
RichAsianKid
Do you not think Koreans are still smarter than Indians in India, and
that's whatever the cause.
No?
RichAsianKid
Recall life is ultimately about propagation and reproduction.
Fortunately or unfortunately various races are still inter-fertile in
the context of ancestry:
and is thus a source of grief.
And I still think Nietzsche's right: "that which doesn't kill you makes
you stronger".....
As for Jews, one WASP politely asked in the (racist! racist!) VDARE website:
http://www.vdare.com/sailer/091025_podhoretz.htm
And a Eurasian Slav previously:
http://www.sobran.com/establishment.shtml
It yet again illustrates the costs rather than benefits of diversity.
Even smart Korea and Japan should learn in RAK's humble opinion.
Gods and Monkeys
> Recall life is ultimately about propagation and reproduction.
> Fortunately or unfortunately various races are still inter-fertile in
> the context of ancestry:
Nah. Life isn't "ultimately" about anything. Just whatever can be
imagined,
even merely said is real.
In another universe you have a mixed race China, 5 is less than 4,
black is the presence of all light, New York never wins the World
Series,
people piss in, not out, the moon we see is actually the moon as it
is,
the sun revolves around the earth, etc.
> And I still think Nietzsche's right: "that which doesn't kill you makes
> you stronger".....
Yeah, but it will probably drive you insane.
>
> As for Jews, one WASP politely asked in the (racist! racist!) VDARE website:
>
> http://www.vdare.com/sailer/091025_podhoretz.htm
VDARE is a white racist website, as are all it's writers. Steve Sailor
is a race sensationalist, race whore. Bad in his own way as Al
Sharpton
is his. Both make money and careers off multi-culti racism. (Not a bad
way to
live, mind).
>
> And a Eurasian Slav previously:
>
> http://www.sobran.com/establishment.shtml
Sobran is a famed plagiarist and white racist. People ask, where
are yellow racists of Sobran's quality? It's to our credit that we
don't need them.
>
> It yet again illustrates the costs rather than benefits of diversity.
>
> Even smart Korea and Japan should learn in RAK's humble opinion.
Korea and Japan have outgrown their borders (certainly the women
have).
It's time their men did the same.
Their are plenty of nations out there (like all of them) that are
willing and could use the IQ boost from
mixing with Korean and Japanese men.
Supertech
how would they have survived
the history and why would they want to keep their own unique cultures?
If you had known the history very well, you will find out Koreans were the
masters of these two slaved countries long before they become big unified
nations.
It doesn't hurt to learn more history.
"P. Rajah" <us...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:hcpk2...@news1.newsguy.com...
> and Chinese, their historical masters: �nom,� which means �bastards.�"
RichAsianKid
> On Nov 5, 7:18 pm, RichAsianKid <RichAsian...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Recall life is ultimately about propagation and reproduction.
>> Fortunately or unfortunately various races are still inter-fertile in
>> the context of ancestry:
>
> Nah. Life isn't "ultimately" about anything. Just whatever can be
> imagined,
> even merely said is real.
>
> In another universe you have a mixed race China, 5 is less than 4,
> black is the presence of all light, New York never wins the World
> Series,
> people piss in, not out, the moon we see is actually the moon as it
> is,
> the sun revolves around the earth, etc.
Certainly Japanese-American physicist Michio Kaku did popularize the
idea of time warps, hyperspace, 10th dimensions etc. Still, if we're all
stardust, it's funny how most people still try to avoid death at all
costs? If afterlife is so glamorous, why do even ardent Buddhists or
Christians (or their families) (and with the possible exception of
suicide-bombing Muslims) not look forward to a premature death? And it's
still funny how poor people still clamor for welfare and still pine for
that lottery win rather than saying, well, in another universe I'm rich
and so it's all swell in this one.
No, I think this whole bit of imagination, of a different universe, of
constructing castles in thin air -- it's merely a cop-out for those who
can't face reality.
>
>> And I still think Nietzsche's right: "that which doesn't kill you makes
>> you stronger".....
>
> Yeah, but it will probably drive you insane.
That was in the context of why Slavs or the Russians or Jews, or Koreans
or Chinese have a higher (modern) sense of peoplehood.
And that may explain in part American or NW European (but not E
European) "decadence", which from history heralds downfall.
>
>> As for Jews, one WASP politely asked in the (racist! racist!) VDARE website:
>>
>> http://www.vdare.com/sailer/091025_podhoretz.htm
>
> VDARE is a white racist website, as are all it's writers. Steve Sailor
> is a race sensationalist, race whore. Bad in his own way as Al
> Sharpton
> is his. Both make money and careers off multi-culti racism. (Not a bad
> way to
> live, mind).
>
If you look at the big picture, everyone is a "racist" at heart whether
people admit it or not, just as most love their own family more than
some distant stranger (recall the example, when you're on the boat with
10 other people and you're the one who knows how to swim, the boat
overturns, and one of the other 10 people is your own child or brother
and you can only save one, I think most people will have no problems
making up their mind whom to save first.)
When people cry "racist" it's just naming-calling and merely indicates
impotent disapproval.
>> And a Eurasian Slav previously:
>>
>> http://www.sobran.com/establishment.shtml
>
> Sobran is a famed plagiarist and white racist. People ask, where
> are yellow racists of Sobran's quality? It's to our credit that we
> don't need them.
Agree that love of one's own should be an implicit and radiant one,
rather than reactive and defensive in nature. This is indeed one of East
Asia's strengths (though not saying there aren't the latter too in some
instances).
The various "racist" sites are, when you think about it, the cri de
coeur of what's been lost in the context of a progressively corroded and
moribund dying civilization. And in this sense they serve as very
important lessons of how not to repeat history's unforgivable mistakes.
>
>> It yet again illustrates the costs rather than benefits of diversity.
>>
>> Even smart Korea and Japan should learn in RAK's humble opinion.
>
> Korea and Japan have outgrown their borders (certainly the women
> have).
> It's time their men did the same.
> Their are plenty of nations out there (like all of them) that are
> willing and could use the IQ boost from
> mixing with Korean and Japanese men.
Well if some are shed off that's fine.
But within a couple generations you'll see a North America that's more
like South America than Sweden; and a Europe that will be more like
Turkey or the Middle East.
The reservoir of relative human capital in some countries will then be
so obvious and precious that by then even you may be hesitant to give it
away. ;)
Gods and Monkeys
>
> > In another universe you have a mixed race China, 5 is less than 4,
> > black is the presence of all light, New York never wins the World
> > Series,
> > people piss in, not out, the moon we see is actually the moon as it
> > is,
> > the sun revolves around the earth, etc.
>
> Certainly Japanese-American physicist Michio Kaku did popularize the
> idea of time warps, hyperspace, 10th dimensions etc. Still, if we're all
> stardust, it's funny how most people still try to avoid death at all
> costs? If afterlife is so glamorous, why do even ardent Buddhists or
> Christians (or their families) (and with the possible exception of
> suicide-bombing Muslims) not look forward to a premature death? And it's
> still funny how poor people still clamor for welfare and still pine for
> that lottery win rather than saying, well, in another universe I'm rich
> and so it's all swell in this one.
>
> No, I think this whole bit of imagination, of a different universe, of
> constructing castles in thin air -- it's merely a cop-out for those who
> can't face reality.
>
For some, that is true. But if it's possible that there is a
multiverse,
there's no reason people with chops shouldn't be thinking or imagining
what it
might be.
>
>
> >> And I still think Nietzsche's right: "that which doesn't kill you makes
> >> you stronger".....
>
> > Yeah, but it will probably drive you insane.
>
> That was in the context of why Slavs or the Russians or Jews, or Koreans
> or Chinese have a higher (modern) sense of peoplehood.
>
> And that may explain in part American or NW European (but not E
> European) "decadence", which from history heralds downfall.
Closed set, group think, in a linear direction. Sometimes good,
sometimes explodes.
But fun to watch from the outside. I've always said the white on
black, black on white
drama is one the greatest shows on Earth. Just when you think one side
is gonna
crush the other, there's an interception and return for touchdown,
Mother Fucker!
>
> >> As for Jews, one WASP politely asked in the (racist! racist!) VDARE website:
>
> >> http://www.vdare.com/sailer/091025_podhoretz.htm
>
> > VDARE is a white racist website, as are all it's writers. Steve Sailor
> > is a race sensationalist, race whore. Bad in his own way as Al
> > Sharpton
> > is his. Both make money and careers off multi-culti racism. (Not a bad
> > way to
> > live, mind).
>
> If you look at the big picture, everyone is a "racist" at heart whether
> people admit it or not, just as most love their own family more than
> some distant stranger (recall the example, when you're on the boat with
> 10 other people and you're the one who knows how to swim, the boat
> overturns, and one of the other 10 people is your own child or brother
> and you can only save one, I think most people will have no problems
> making up their mind whom to save first.)
>
> When people cry "racist" it's just naming-calling and merely indicates
> impotent disapproval.
It's an art. Some people can get away with it, use it for gain. Others
get hurt
when they do it. Like nun-chuks. Use them well and you hurt others,
use them poorly, you hurt yourself.
>
> >> And a Eurasian Slav previously:
>
> >> http://www.sobran.com/establishment.shtml
>
> > Sobran is a famed plagiarist and white racist. People ask, where
> > are yellow racists of Sobran's quality? It's to our credit that we
> > don't need them.
>
>
> The various "racist" sites are, when you think about it, the cri de
> coeur of what's been lost in the context of a progressively corroded and
> moribund dying civilization. And in this sense they serve as very
> important lessons of how not to repeat history's unforgivable mistakes.
But it's not easy to tell what the lessons of history are.
Establishing the
facts are easy, the lessons are really hard.
>
> Well if some are shed off that's fine.
>
> But within a couple generations you'll see a North America that's more
> like South America than Sweden; and a Europe that will be more like
> Turkey or the Middle East.
>
> The reservoir of relative human capital in some countries will then be
> so obvious and precious that by then even you may be hesitant to give it
> away. ;)- Hide quoted text -
>
It's easy to say from the relative comfort of China. But history shows
the world
catches up to China. Your way thinking, (and not saying there's
anything wrong with it)
probably has a shelf-life of about one generation, before radical
changes need to be
made.
Supertech
only a tiny part of the life after death. Because you remain dead 99 percent
of time than being physically alive. But over all, I think life after death
is more real than the time travel, multi-verse nonsense. The universe is
alive, and filled with the live souls. Souls have to go through the growing
up process from the real life in the physical world.
"RichAsianKid" <RichAs...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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fruitella
> "P. Rajah" <u...@newsguy.com> wrote in message
> news:hcpk2...@news1.newsguy.com...
> > ltlee1 wrote:
>
> > "Centuries ago, when Korean women who had been taken to China as war
> > prizes and forced into sexual slavery managed to return home, their
> > communities ostracized them as tainted."
>
> > "Even today, the North Korean authorities often force abortion on women
> > who return home pregnant after going to China to find food, according to
> > defectors and human rights groups."
>
> > "..when South Koreans refer to Americans in private conversations, they
> > nearly always attach the same suffix as when they talk about the Japanese
>
> - Show quoted text -
Korea was controlled by China in ancient times and Japan in modern
times. Today south korea is under the control of the US.
The country is one of the most homogenous of all countries in the
world. Everyone looks the same and even has the same sir name (only 2
sir names exist : kim or park). This kind of conformity has its
positivies but also has many negatives.
In the long run however, history shows their homogenity will
ultimately be lost. No homogenous tribe has ever survived without
getting diluted down by foreigners.
Prepare to be inseminated by the Chinese, Japanese, Indians and US in
the 21st century. Over the next 100 years, Korea will continue to
export TVs and hyundai cars while the rest of the world will export
their semen to Korea. That's the only way other countries can balance
their 'budget' deficit.
RichAsianKid
Ironically it's not men who worship different Gods the same way; it's
actually men who worship the same God different ways.
It's good to imagine all sorts of things from 3-headed demons to how
pigs can fly but from a practical stance, a multiverse is meaningless
for a no simpler reason than if there's a way to traverse it and return
i.e. it's somehow connected, it'd be our universe. Much like if religion
or speculation can be shown or proven true it will no longer be confined
to that domain of superstition and fantasy but rather that of fact and
reality.
And as for what's real what's fact, if some are so pure, feel free not
to trespass in language or logic. That option is always, and very
widely, open.
>
>>
>>>> And I still think Nietzsche's right: "that which doesn't kill you makes
>>>> you stronger".....
>>> Yeah, but it will probably drive you insane.
>> That was in the context of why Slavs or the Russians or Jews, or Koreans
>> or Chinese have a higher (modern) sense of peoplehood.
>>
>> And that may explain in part American or NW European (but not E
>> European) "decadence", which from history heralds downfall.
>
> Closed set, group think, in a linear direction. Sometimes good,
> sometimes explodes.
> But fun to watch from the outside. I've always said the white on
> black, black on white
> drama is one the greatest shows on Earth. Just when you think one side
> is gonna
> crush the other, there's an interception and return for touchdown,
> Mother Fucker!
Don't miss comment 1 from a race-realist/white nationalist perspective:
http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2009/11/the_racial_ideo.php
Or maybe just think if Germany didn't open up the Russian front in WWII,
or if Japan didn't have practically the whole coastline of Asia to
defend etc.
Or....just think America.
>
>>>> As for Jews, one WASP politely asked in the (racist! racist!) VDARE website:
>>>> http://www.vdare.com/sailer/091025_podhoretz.htm
>>> VDARE is a white racist website, as are all it's writers. Steve Sailor
>>> is a race sensationalist, race whore. Bad in his own way as Al
>>> Sharpton
>>> is his. Both make money and careers off multi-culti racism. (Not a bad
>>> way to
>>> live, mind).
>> If you look at the big picture, everyone is a "racist" at heart whether
>> people admit it or not, just as most love their own family more than
>> some distant stranger (recall the example, when you're on the boat with
>> 10 other people and you're the one who knows how to swim, the boat
>> overturns, and one of the other 10 people is your own child or brother
>> and you can only save one, I think most people will have no problems
>> making up their mind whom to save first.)
>>
>> When people cry "racist" it's just naming-calling and merely indicates
>> impotent disapproval.
>
> It's an art. Some people can get away with it, use it for gain. Others
> get hurt
> when they do it. Like nun-chuks. Use them well and you hurt others,
> use them poorly, you hurt yourself.
Agree, and which is why I've always said its one powerful factor
(winning or defeating) that even the most noblest intentions written on
some piece of paper yet can't still overcome.
>
>>>> And a Eurasian Slav previously:
>>>> http://www.sobran.com/establishment.shtml
>>> Sobran is a famed plagiarist and white racist. People ask, where
>>> are yellow racists of Sobran's quality? It's to our credit that we
>>> don't need them.
>
>> The various "racist" sites are, when you think about it, the cri de
>> coeur of what's been lost in the context of a progressively corroded and
>> moribund dying civilization. And in this sense they serve as very
>> important lessons of how not to repeat history's unforgivable mistakes.
>
> But it's not easy to tell what the lessons of history are.
> Establishing the
> facts are easy, the lessons are really hard.
Well, at the minimum history so far is little more than a tale of tribal
destiny.
>
>> Well if some are shed off that's fine.
>>
>> But within a couple generations you'll see a North America that's more
>> like South America than Sweden; and a Europe that will be more like
>> Turkey or the Middle East.
>>
>> The reservoir of relative human capital in some countries will then be
>> so obvious and precious that by then even you may be hesitant to give it
>> away. ;)- Hide quoted text -
>>
>
> It's easy to say from the relative comfort of China. But history shows
> the world
> catches up to China. Your way thinking, (and not saying there's
> anything wrong with it)
> probably has a shelf-life of about one generation, before radical
> changes need to be
> made.
I was referring to Japan and Korea and yes at least North China and
Taiwan. The beauty of a longer-term view is fluidity: when the world
catches up, you're still a step forward. Relative, not absolute.
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Some thorough bred blood is better to be left alone. Why do you think those
horse breeders concern about not mixing bad(inferior) blood in their horse
stocks.
What you have missed in your concept about Koreans is that these pure bred
Han Koreans have become the rulers of those giant nations like China and
Japan, even Europe by Attila the Hun.
The present Koreans are left alone because of their fierce fight to preserve
their purity and also by the help of the nice secluded geographical
location.
They scorned Chinese and Japanese for being mixed ups with the inferior
stocks for centuries. I don't think even the average Chinese or Japanese
deny that.