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1.2.3.1 Anglican bishops declare that Jesus is not God

Muslims are not the only ones who believe that Jesus (pbuh) is mortal
and not a god. The Jews also believe this, in addition to the very
first groups of Christianity such as the Ebonites, the Cerinthians,
the Basilidians, the Capocratians, and the Hypisistarians. The Arians,
Paulicians and Goths also accepted Jesus (pbuh) as a prophet of God.
Even in the modern age there are churches in Asia, in Africa, the
Unitarian church, the Jehovah's witnesses, and even the majority of
today's Anglican Bishops do not worship Jesus (pbuh) as God.

In the British newspaper the "Daily News" 25/6/84 under the heading
"Shock survey of Anglican Bishops" We read

"More than half of England's Anglican Bishops say that Christians are
not obliged to believe that Jesus Christ was God, according to a
survey published today. The pole of 31 of England's 39 bishops shows
that many of them think that Christ's miracles, the virgin birth and
the resurrection might not have happened exactly as described in the
Bible. Only 11 of the bishops insisted that Christians must regard
Christ as both God and man, while 19 said it was sufficient to regard
Jesus as 'God's supreme agent'"

But what is a messenger of God? Is he not "God's supreme agent" ?.
This is indeed what God Himself has already told us in the noble
Qur'an 1400 years ago, and exactly what Jesus (pbuh) himself testified
to in the Bible:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true
God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent."

John 17:3

Astounding, isn't it? With every passing day, the most learned among
the Christian community are slowly recognizing the truth and drawing
closer and closer to Islam. These are not Muslims who issued this
statement. These are not "liberal" Christians. These are the most
learned and most highly esteemed men of the Anglican Church. These men
have dedicated their whole lives to the study of the religion of
Jesus, and their study has driven them to the truth which God had
already revealed to them in the Qur'an 1400 years ago: That Jesus was
not God. That God is not a Trinity. And that the stories of the
ministry of Jesus in the Bible have been extensively tampered with by
the hands of mankind.

"And when Allah said: O Jesus, son of Mary! Did you say unto mankind:
Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he said: Be You
glorified. It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I
used to say it, then You knew it. You know what is in my [innermost]
self but I know not what is in Yours. Truly! You, only You are the
Knower of things hidden. I spoke unto them only that which You
commanded me, (saying): Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord, and I
was a witness over them while I dwelt among them, and when You took me
You were the Watcher over them, and You are Witness over all things."

The noble Qur'an, Al-Maidah(5):116-118

The Church, as Heinz Zahrnt put it "put words into the mouth of Jesus
which he never spoke and attributed actions to him which he never
performed." One of those who has shown that most of what the church
says about Jesus is baseless is Rudolph Augustein in his book "Jesus
the Son of Man." Another very comprehensive study of this matter can
be found in the book "The Myth of God Incarnate" which was written by
seven theologian scholars in England in 1977 and edited by John Hick.
Their conclusion in this matter is that Jesus was "a man approved by
God, for a special role within the divine purpose, and..... the later
conception of him as God incarnate ... is a mythological or poetic way
of expressing his significance for us." See also John Mackinnon
Robertson's "Christianity and Mythology" T.W Doane's "The Bible Myths
and their Parallels in Other Religions" (A good summary of these
studies is available in M.F. Ansarei, "Islam and Christianity in the
Modern World").

A University of Richmond professor, Dr. Robert Alley, after
considerable research into newly found ancient documents concludes
that

"....The (Biblical) passages where Jesus talks about the Son of God
are later additions.... what the church said about him. Such a claim
of deity for himself would not have been consistent with his entire
lifestyle as we can reconstruct. For the first three decades after
Jesus' death Christianity continued as a sect within Judaism. The
first three decades of the existence of the church were within the
synagogue. That would have been beyond belief if they (the followers)
had boldly proclaimed the deity of Jesus."

Is there any confirmation of this in the Bible, yes! If we were to
read the Bible we would find that long after the departure of Jesus,
his faithful followers continued to "keep up their daily attendance at
the Temple" (Acts 2:46) It would be beyond belief to imagine that had
Jesus indeed preached to his apostles that he was God, and if Jesus
had indeed commanded them to forsake the commandments, that they would
then disregard all of this and continue to worship in a Jewish
synagogue on a daily basis, let alone the great Temple itself. It is
further beyond belief that the Jews of the Temple would stand idly by
and allow them to do this if they were preaching the total
cancellation of the law of Moses and that Jesus was God.

Can any Trinitarian Christian, even in their wildest fantasies,
imagine that the Jews in an orthodox Jewish synagogue would stand idly
by while he took out his cross and prayed to Jesus in the midst of
their synagogue and was publicly calling others to worship Jesus and
forsake the commandments? How much more preposterous to imagine that
they would have nothing to say to someone who did that in their most
sacred of all synagogues, the Temple, on a daily basis yet. This is
further evidence in support of the Qur'an, that Jesus only called his
followers to a continuation of the religion of Moses and not by any
means to the total cancellation and destruction of that law.

In the previous section, we read the following verses of the Bible:

1. "Know therefore this day, and consider [it] in thine heart, that
the LORD he [is] God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath:
[there is] none else." Deuteronomy 4:39.
2. "Thou shalt have no other gods before me." Exodus 20:3
3. "For thou shalt worship no other god: for the LORD, whose name
[is] Jealous, [is] a jealous God:" Exodus 34:14
4. "Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I
have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I
[am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be
after me. I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no
savior." Isaiah 43:10-11.
5. "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the
LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me
[there is] no God." Isaiah 44:6
6. "That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the
west, that [there is] none beside me. I [am] the LORD, and [there is]
none else." Isaiah 45:6
7. "For thus saith the LORD that created the heavens; God himself
that formed the earth and made it; he hath established it, he created
it not in vain, he formed it to be inhabited: I [am] the LORD; and
[there is] none else." Isaiah 45:18.
8. "Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I
[am] God, and [there is] none else." Isaiah 45:22

Now we should begin to ask ourselves: If there was no god before or
after God Almighty, then how was Jesus (pbuh) "begotten" as a god? The
answer is: he was not. He was a mortal man, not a god. We even have
the testimony of the majority of today's Anglican Bishops in defense
of this basic truth. If we want the testimony of a trustworthy witness
then how much more trustworthy a witness shall we ever find than the
majority of the most learned and respected conservative Christians of
the Anglican Church?

The Bible only preaches that Jesus is God and that God is a Trinity to
those who do not know it's innermost details and the truth of the
history of the Church as these men have come to know it. But let us
move on in our study of the Biblical verses so that we can see only a
small sampling of the evidence that has made the truth clear to these
men.

1.2.2.5 1 John 5:7

The only verses in the whole Bible that explicitly ties God, Jesus,
and the Holy Spirit in one "Triune" being is the verse of 1 John 5:7

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word,
and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

This is the type of clear, decisive, and to-the-point verse I have
been asking for. However, as I would later find out, this verse is now
universally recognized as being a later "insertion" of the Church and
all recent versions of the Bible, such as the Revised Standard Version
the New Revised Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible, the
New English Bible, the Phillips Modern English Bible ...etc. have all
unceremoniously expunged this verse from their pages. Why is this? The
scripture translator Benjamin Wilson gives the following explanation
for this action in his "Emphatic Diaglott." Mr. Wilson says:

"This text concerning the heavenly witness is not contained in any
Greek manuscript which was written earlier than the fifteenth century.
It is not cited by any of the ecclesiastical writers; not by any of
early Latin fathers even when the subjects upon which they treated
would naturally have lead them to appeal to it's authority. It is
therefore evidently spurious."

Others, such as the late Dr. Herbert W. Armstrong argued that this
verse was added to the Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible during the
heat of the controversy between Rome, Arius, and God's people.
Whatever the reason, this verse is now universally recognized as an
insertion and discarded. Since the Bible contains no verses validating
a "Trinity" therefore, centuries after the departure of Jesus, God
chose to inspire someone to insert this verse in order to clarify the
true nature of God as being a "Trinity." Notice how mankind was being
inspired as to how to "clarify" the Bible centuries after the
departure of Jesus (pbuh). People continued to put words in the mouths
of Jesus, his disciples, and even God himself with no reservations
whatsoever. They were being "inspired" (see chapter two).

If these people were being "inspired" by God, I wondered, then why did
they need to put these words into other people's mouths (in our
example, in the mouth of John). Why did they not just openly say "God
inspired me and I will add a chapter to the Bible in my name"? Also,
why did God need to wait till after the departure of Jesus to
"inspire" his "true" nature? Why not let Jesus (pbuh) say it himself?

The great luminary of Western literature, Mr. Edward Gibbon, explains
the reason for the discardal of this verse from the pages of the Bible
with the following words:

"Of all the manuscripts now extant, above fourscore in number, some of
which are more than 1200 years old, the orthodox copies of the
Vatican, of the Complutensian editors, of Robert Stephens are becoming
invisible; and the two manuscripts of Dublin and Berlin are unworthy
to form an exception...In the eleventh and twelfth centuries, the
Bibles were corrected by LanFrank, Archbishop of Canterbury, and by
Nicholas, a cardinal and librarian of the Roman church, secundum
Ortodoxam fidem. Notwithstanding these corrections, the passage is
still wanting in twenty-five Latin manuscripts, the oldest and
fairest; two qualities seldom united, except in manuscripts....The
three witnesses have been established in our Greek Testaments by the
prudence of Erasmus; the honest bigotry of the Complutensian editors;
the typographical fraud, or error, of Robert Stephens in the placing
of a crotchet and the deliberate falsehood, or strange
misapprehension, of Theodore Beza."

"Decline and fall of the Roman Empire," IV, Gibbon, p. 418.

Edward Gibbon was defended in his findings by his contemporary, the
brilliant British scholar Richard Porson who also proceeded to publish
devastatingly conclusive proof that the verse of 1 John 5:7 was only
first inserted by the Church into the Bible in the year 400C.E.
(Secrets of Mount Sinai, James Bentley, pp. 30-33).

Regarding Porson's most devastating proof, Mr. Gibbon later said

"His structures are founded in argument, enriched with learning, and
enlivened with wit, and his adversary neither deserves nor finds any
quarter at his hands. The evidence of the three heavenly witnesses
would now be rejected in any court of justice; but prejudice is blind,
authority is deaf, and our vulgar Bibles will ever be polluted by this
spurious text."

To which Mr. Bentley responds:

"In fact, they are not. No modern Bible now contains the
interpolation."

Mr. Bentley, however, is mistaken. Indeed, just as Mr. Gibbon had
predicted, the simple fact that the most learned scholars of
Christianity now unanimously recognize this verse to be a later
interpolation of the Church has not prevented the preservation of this
fabricated text in our modern Bibles. To this day, the Bible in the
hands of the majority of Christians, the "King James" Bible, still
unhesitantly includes this verse as the "inspired" word of God without
so much as a footnote to inform the reader that all scholars of
Christianity of note unanimously recognize it as a later fabrication.

Peake's Commentary on the Bible says

"The famous interpolation after 'three witnesses' is not printed even
in RSVn, and rightly. It cites the heavenly testimony of the Father,
the logos, and the Holy Spirit, but is never used in the early
Trinitarian controversies. No respectable Greek MS contains it.
Appearing first in a late 4th-cent. Latin text, it entered the Vulgate
and finally the NT of Erasmus."

It was only the horrors of the great inquisitions which held back Sir
Isaac Newton from openly revealing these facts to all:

"In all the vehement universal and lasting controversy about the
Trinity in Jerome's time and both before and long enough after it, the
text of the 'three in heaven' was never once thought of. It is now in
everybody's mouth and accounted the main text for the business and
would assuredly have been so too with them, had it been in their
books… Let them make good sense of it who are able. For my part I can
make none. If it be said that we are not to determine what is
scripture and what not by our private judgments, I confess it in
places not controverted, but in disputed places I love to take up with
what I can best understand. It is the temper of the hot and
superstitious part of mankind in matters of religion ever to be fond
of mysteries, and for that reason to like best what they understand
least. Such men may use the Apostle John as they please, but I have
that honor for him as to believe that he wrote good sense and
therefore take that to be his which is the best"

Jesus, Prophet of Islam, Muhammad Ata' Ur-Rahim, p. 156

According to Newton, this verse first appeared for in the third
edition of Erasmus's (1466-1536) New Testament.

For all of the above reasons, we find that when thirty two biblical
scholars backed by fifty cooperating Christian denominations got
together to compile the Revised Standard Version of the Bible based
upon the most ancient Biblical manuscripts available to them today,
they made some very extensive changes. Among these changes was the
unceremonious discardal of the verse of 1 John 5:7 as the fabricated
insertion that it is. For more on the compilation of the RSV Bible,
please read the preface of any modern copy of that Bible.

Such comparatively unimportant matters as the description of Jesus
(pbuh) riding an ass (or was it a "colt", or was it an "ass and a
colt"? see point 42 in the table of section 2.2) into Jerusalem are
spoken about in great details since they are the fulfillment of a
prophesy. For instance, in Mark 11:2-10 we read:

"And saith unto them, Go your way into the village over against you:
and as soon as ye be entered into it, ye shall find a colt tied,
whereon never man sat; loose him, and bring [him]. And if any man say
unto you, Why do ye this? say ye that the Lord hath need of him; and
straightway he will send him hither. And they went their way, and
found the colt tied by the door without in a place where two ways met;
and they loose him And certain of them that stood there said unto
them, What do ye, loosing the colt? And they said unto them even as
Jesus had commanded: and they let them go And they brought the colt to
Jesus, and cast their garments on him; and he sat upon him. And many
spread their garments in the way: and others cut down branches off the
trees, and strawed [them] in the way And they that went before, and
they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed [is] he that
cometh in the name of the Lord: Blessed [be] the kingdom of our father
David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest."

Also see Luke 19:30-38 which has a similar detailed description of
this occurrence. On the other hand, the Bible is completely free of
any description of the "Trinity" which is supposedly a description of
the very nature of the one who rode this ass, who is claimed to be the
only son of God, and who allegedly died for the sins of all of
mankind. I found myself asking the question: If every aspect of
Christian faith is described in such detail such that even the
description of this ass is so vividly depicted for us, then why is the
same not true for the description of the "Trinity"? Sadly, however, it
is a question for which there is no logical answer.

http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch1.2.2.5.html

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yansimon52

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On Jul 3, 8:27 am, ARAH <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> true nature of God as ...
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This morning I was sitting at a coffeeshop....overheard a chinese
father talking to his 20 plus year old son....heard they the son was
talking about going for a pilot course.....in other word.....both
father and son were talking about the welfare of his son...upgrading
his career.
On the other hand....another table...I overheard a muslim father
advising his son to read more Koran.....so that his son could be a
'spiritual man'....and being a spiritual man....where ever he
goes....muslim would 'kiss' his hand...a show of respect......

That is the difference in up bringing between these 2 group of races
(with different religious beliefs) in our society rite now....one want
to be a messiah...the other just want to have a good family.....

So, Arah.....which path do you choose?

Supertech

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Moron, what is fact and what you believe are two different things.

We Christians do not think Mohammed is even a prophet. Does it matter to
you?

Jesus is God in Christians belief system. So, why don't you just shut up?

Who cares about what the Anglican Bishop say.


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The Cynic

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On Jul 3, 11:27 pm, ARAH <arah1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1.2.3.1 Anglican bishops declare that Jesus is not God

(pig shit flushed)

So what?
You must be a fool to waste your time in what other people think of
Jesus.
See what your Allah believers are doing. What are you doing about it?

http://lens.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/07/02/pictures-251/

Suicide bombers struck Pakistan’s most important Sufi shrine on
Thursday night, a devastating attack by hard-line militants on the
moderate, more flexible blend of Islam that is practiced by most
Pakistanis, Sabrina Tavernise and Waqar Gillani reported. The bombers
attacked in the city of Lahore just before midnight, the peak worship
time for the shrine, known as Data Ganj Baksh. Thousands of people
were at the shrine at the time, according to the Pakistani police. At
least 42 people were killed and more than 170 injured, officials said.
The strike on such a revered place of worship is certain to enrage
Pakistanis, who are growing weary of violence that has spiked in the
past four years.

Supertech

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There is no law in Islam. What you perceive to be right as a Moslem is the
law.

How crazy is that?

And no Moslems condemn such an evil act.

No public outcry, no public condemnation, no nothing from these soulless
Zombies.

This is what you become when you fall into the CULT religion like Islam.

I wish this moron, ARAH just shut up and go away.

If my religious leader tells me to kill other fellow human beings, I would
tell him to go to hell instead.

This Moslem Zombies have no soul to tell their master to "go to hell" and
condemn those who murder people in the name of "Allah".

You become cohorts to the murderers by becoming a Moslem.

Stay away from it as far as possible.

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Wusong

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Excerpt from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam:
The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is
a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal,
political, economic, social, and military components. The religious
component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization
begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for
their religious privileges. When politically correct, tolerant, and
culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their
religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in
as well.

Here's how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any
given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-
loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the
case in:

United States -- Muslim 0.6%

Australia -- Muslim 1.5%

Canada -- Muslim 1.9%

China -- Muslim 1.8%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%

Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities
and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and
among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%

Germany -- Muslim 3.7%

United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%

Spain -- Muslim 4%

Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to
their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for
the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby
securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase
pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves --
along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France -- Muslim 8%

Philippines -- 5%

Sweden -- Muslim 5%

Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%

The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%

Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow
them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the
Islamic Law.The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law
over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase
lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris,
we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends
Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with
opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions
are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana -- Muslim 10%

India -- Muslim 13.4%

Israel -- Muslim 16%

Kenya -- Muslim 10%

Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad
militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian
churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror
attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%

Chad -- Muslim 53.1%

Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers
of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic
ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya,
the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%

Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%

Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%

Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run
ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out
the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been
experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%

Egypt -- Muslim 90%

Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%

Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%

Iran -- Muslim 98%

Iraq -- Muslim 97%

Jordan -- Muslim 92%

Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%

Pakistan -- Muslim 97%

Palestine -- Muslim 99%

Syria -- Muslim 90%

Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%

Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%

United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House
of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a
Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only
word, such as in:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%

Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%

Somalia -- Muslim 100%

Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the
most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their
blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

'Before I was nine, I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was
me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family
against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe
against the world, and all of us against the infidel. -- Leon Uris,
'The Haj'

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under
100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim
populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and
within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even
enter these ghettos.

There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious
facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the
community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the
Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with
death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and
extremists exercise more power than the national average would
indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But
their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus,
Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of
the world's population by the end of this century.

We are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be
herding the sheep! Two devout Muslims are in Homeland Security
posts.

Arif Alikhan, a devout Muslim, as Assistant Secretary for Policy
Development.

Kareem Shora, a devout Muslim who was born in Damascus, Syria, as ADC
National Executive Director as a member of the Homeland Security
Advisory Council (HSAC).

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a government official being identified as
a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just
wondering.

Devout Muslims in critical Homeland Security positions? Does this
make you feel safer? That should make the US' homeland much safer,
right? Was it not Devout Muslim Men who flew the planes into those
buildings 8 years ago? Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at
Fort Hood?

Also: This is very interesting and we all need to read it from start
to finish. Maybe this is why our American Muslims are so quiet and not
speaking out about any atrocities.

Question: Can a good Muslim be a good American?

This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for
20 years. The following is his reply:

Theologically - No, Because his allegiance is to Allah, The moon God
of Arabia

Religiously - No, Because no other religion is accepted by His Allah
except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)

Scripturally - No, Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of
Islam and the Quran.

Geographically - No Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he
turns in prayer five times a day.

Socially - No, Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make
friends with Christians or Jews.

Politically - No, Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual
leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America,
the great Satan,

Domestically - No, Because he is instructed to marry four Women and
beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)

Intellectually - No, Because he cannot accept the American
Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes
the Bible to be corrupt.

Philosophically - No, Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not
allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot
co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

Spiritually - No, Because when we declare 'one nation under God,' the
Christian's God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to
as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran's 99
excellent names.

Therefore, after much study and deliberation.... Perhaps we should be
very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. - - - It seems
unlikely that they can be both 'good' Muslims and good Americans.

Call it what you wish, it's still the truth. The religious war is
bigger than we know or understand.

Can a muslim be a good soldier???

Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He
is a good Muslim!!! Footnote: The Muslims have said they will
destroy us from within.

wiseguy

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Today, you, a christian slaugthered a muslim becos yesreday, his
muslim father slaughtered your christian father...

His muslim father slaughtered your christian father becos your
christian grandfather slaughtered his muslim grandfather...

Your christian grandfather slaughtered his muslim grandfather becos
his muslim great-grandfather slaughtered your christian great-
grandfather...

His muslim great-grandfather slaughtered your christian great-
grandfather becoz your christian great-great grandfather slaughtered
his muslim great-great grandfather...

Tell me, where is your God/Allah in all this?

Tell me, when are you going to stop listening to the hate-mongering
snake-oil preachers of all shades?

Tell me, when are you going to stop visiting the sins of the father
upon the children?

arah

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Jul 8, 2010, 11:29:21 AM7/8/10
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The Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad
"Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will
indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds."

This sermon was delivered on the Ninth Day of Dhul Hijjah 10 A.H. in
the 'Uranah valley of Mount Arafat' (in Mecca).

After praising, and thanking God he said:

"O People, lend me an attentive ear, for I know not whether after this
year, I shall ever be amongst you again. Therefore listen to what I am
saying to you very carefully and take these words to those who could
not be present here today.

O People, just as you regard this month, this day, this city as
Sacred, so regard the life and property of every Muslim as a sacred
trust. Return the goods entrusted to you to their rightful owners.
Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will indeed
meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds. God has
forbidden you to take usury (interest), therefore all interest
obligation shall henceforth be waived. Your capital, however, is yours
to keep. You will neither inflict nor suffer any inequity. God has
judged that there shall be no interest and that all the interest due
to Abbas ibn 'Abd'al Muttalib (Prophet's uncle) shall henceforth be
waived...

Beware of Satan, for the safety of your religion. He has lost all hope
that he will ever be able to lead you astray in big things, so beware
of following him in small things.

O People, it is true that you have certain rights with regard to your
women, but they also have rights over you. Remember that you have
taken them as your wives only under God's trust and with His
permission. If they abide by your right then to them belongs the right
to be fed and clothed in kindness. Do treat your women well and be
kind to them for they are your partners and committed helpers. And it
is your right that they do not make friends with any one of whom you
do not approve, as well as never to be unchaste.

O People, listen to me in earnest, worship God, say your five daily
prayers (Salah), fast during the month of Ramadan, and give your
wealth in Zakat. Perform Hajj if you can afford to.

All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a
non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white
has no superiority over black nor a black has any superiority over
white except by piety and good action. Learn that every Muslim is a
brother to every Muslim and that the Muslims constitute one
brotherhood. Nothing shall be legitimate to a Muslim which belongs to
a fellow Muslim unless it was given freely and willingly. Do not,
therefore, do injustice to yourselves.

Remember, one day you will appear before God and answer your deeds. So
beware, do not stray from the path of righteousness after I am gone.

O People, no prophet or apostle will come after me and no new faith
will be born. Reason well, therefore, O People, and understand words
which I convey to you. I leave behind me two things, the Quran and my
example, the Sunnah and if you follow these you will never go astray.

All those who listen to me shall pass on my words to others and those
to others again; and may the last ones understand my words better than
those who listen to me directly. Be my witness, O God, that I have
conveyed your message to your people".

On Jul 6, 2:10 am, "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There is no law in Islam. What you perceive to be right as a Moslem is the
> law.
>
> How crazy is that?
>
> And no Moslems condemn such an evil act.
>
> No public outcry, no public condemnation, no nothing from these soulless
> Zombies.
>
> This is what you become when you fall into the CULT religion like Islam.
>
> I wish this moron, ARAH just shut up and go away.
>
> If my religious leader tells me to kill other fellow human beings, I would
> tell him to go to hell instead.
>
> This Moslem Zombies have no soul to tell their master to "go to hell" and
> condemn those who murder people in the name of "Allah".
>
> You become cohorts to the murderers by becoming a Moslem.
>
> Stay away from it as far as possible.
>
> ==============================================================================================
>

> "The Cynic" <i.thecy...@gmail.com> wrote in message

The Cynic

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Jul 8, 2010, 11:43:20 AM7/8/10
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On Jul 8, 11:29 pm, arah <drjanejo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The Last Sermon of Prophet Muhammad
> "Hurt no one so that no one may hurt you. Remember that you will
> indeed meet your Lord, and that He will indeed reckon your deeds."

Hmmm.............. tch tch

http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/the-newspaper/front-page/30-pilgrims-among-38-killed-in-iraq-attacks-870

30 pilgrims among 38 killed in Iraq attacks

Thursday, 08 Jul, 2010

BAGHDAD, July 7: Militants struck across the Iraqi capital on
Wednesday, killing 38 people, including 30 in a suicide bombing
targeting pilgrims commemorating a revered Imam, Musa Kazim, Iraqi
police said.

Police said the bloody suicide bombing split the hot Wednesday evening
air as Shia pilgrims were about to cross a bridge leading to the a
shrine in the Kazamiyah neighbourhood where the seventh Imam is
buried.

Earlier on Wednesday, police and hospital officials said two pilgrims
died and seven were wounded in eastern Baghdad when a mortar shell hit
their procession.

In western Baghdad, militants blew up the homes of Iraqi security
officers, killing three family members.—AP

Anti-DabianchenVirus

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Jul 8, 2010, 12:42:31 PM7/8/10
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Once there was an ugly dyke named abianchen/Meichi,
Who thought the Philippines is not the place to be.
SCC, she said, is where I can have some fun,
To taunt and tease as a "guy from Taiwan".
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