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ng eng chong

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Oct 30, 2000, 1:36:50 AM10/30/00
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Korean is not closely related to any other
modern language. Despite
the longtime cultural influence of China upon
Korea and the use of
Chinese as the official written language of
Korea until the late 19th
century, Korean and Chinese belong to entirely
different linguistic
families. However, some experts believe that
Korean may belong to
the Ural-Altaic family--along with Japanese,
Mongolian.


Formal manuscripts did not appear in Korea
until the 4th century
AD, when educated Koreans wrote in Chinese.
Later, systems were
developed by which Korean words could be written
in Chinese
ideograms. The mastery of Chinese ideography was
very difficult,
however, and only scholars could read and write.

Hangul, an alphabet suited to the Korean
language, was developed
at the direction of King Sejong and introduced
in 1446. It was used
by the common people, but educated Koreans
continued to write in
Chinese. Hangul did not come into general use
until the end of the
19th century, when it became the official
alphabet for all laws and
decrees.

After the Japanese assumed complete control
of Korea in 1910,
they discouraged and then abolished the use and
teaching of Korean.
With the liberation of Korea at the end of World
War II, hangul was
revived. Today Korean texts and parts of Korean
newspapers are
printed in hangul. Chinese ideography is still
taught, but most writers
use hangul.

mrlee

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Oct 30, 2000, 2:48:09 AM10/30/00
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and your point is....?

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ng eng chong

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Oct 30, 2000, 9:37:32 AM10/30/00
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my point is simple. just hope some korean ppl
out there understand that chinese culture is different than
korean .

Do u know many korean claim that chinese
language, Tao, chinese new year etc, are Korean culture?


btw, r u one of them?

min1...@my-deja.com

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Oct 30, 2000, 10:04:40 AM10/30/00
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His point must be a reiteration of the fact that hangul is vastly
superior to the antiquated ideograms of Chinese.

In article <ZI9L5.454$OX4....@news2.bora.net>,


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Theophilus

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Oct 30, 2000, 5:36:44 PM10/30/00
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In article <ZI9L5.454$OX4....@news2.bora.net>,
"mrlee" <NoSpam...@korea.com> wrote:

> and your point is....?

General edification would be my guess.

Theophilus

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Oct 30, 2000, 5:39:00 PM10/30/00
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In article <39FD87AB...@tm.net.my>,

ng eng chong <nec...@tm.net.my> wrote:

> my point is simple. just hope some korean ppl
> out there understand that chinese culture is different than
> korean .

Even those of us who aren't wholly Korean know that. It's fairly
obvious, isn't it?

> Do u know many korean claim that chinese
> language, Tao, chinese new year etc, are Korean culture?

The next one I meet will make a total of 1.

Juan Matus

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Oct 31, 2000, 3:40:24 AM10/31/00
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This would be more interesting if I could read it in my lynx
browser... want to e-mail me a version that is 'correctly' formated?

min1...@my-deja.com

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Oct 31, 2000, 12:53:20 PM10/31/00
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Don't bother. This was just another Chinese idiot pretending to spread
goodwill and appreciation for his Asian little brothers but really
meaning to boast about how great the Chinese civilization...was.

In article <8tm0ho$8sj$2...@sylvester.vcn.bc.ca>,

ng eng chong

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Nov 1, 2000, 5:32:00 AM11/1/00
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Jaun Matus:

just go to any search engine and type "history of Korean Language"
,you will get the information. Nobody can change the history.

ng eng chong

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Nov 1, 2000, 7:25:15 AM11/1/00
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many koreans claim that chinese language, chinese new year, Tao,
medicine and other chinese culture are belong to koreans.This is not true.
I hope most koreans will understand and accept that chinese
culture has history of 5,000 years and instead most of Korean culture
are originated from it.
This is history and pls respect chinese culture, my friend.

min1...@my-deja.com wrote:

> Don't bother. This was just another Chinese idiot pretending to spread
> goodwill and appreciation for his Asian little brothers but really
> meaning to boast about how great the Chinese civilization...was.
>

Korean is not closely related to any other modern


language.
Despite the longtime cultural influence of China upon Korea and the use
of Chinese as the official written language of Korea until the late 19th
century, Korean and Chinese belong to entirely different linguistic
families.
However, some experts believe that Korean may belong to the Ural-Altaic
family--along with Japanese, Mongolian.


Formal manuscripts did not appear in Korea until the 4th
century AD, when educated Koreans wrote in Chinese. Later, systems were
developed by which Korean words could be written in Chinese ideograms.
The mastery of Chinese ideography was very difficult, however, and only

scholars could read and write.Hangul, an alphabet suited to the Korean
lnguage,

vignette

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Nov 1, 2000, 7:51:04 AM11/1/00
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Let's not argue for nothing beneficial. Remember, the Chinese, the Japanese
and the Koreans are all East Asians and are supposed to be a clique, just as
the French, the Italians and the Spaniards or the Norwegians, the Swedish
and the Danish each belong to one grouping. Hopefully, the Chinese, the
Japanese and the Koreans can get along well with each other and forge a
strong Asian identity.
ng eng chong <nec...@tm.net.my> wrote in message
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william john sowa

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Nov 1, 2000, 11:20:07 AM11/1/00
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In article <3A000BA...@tm.net.my>,

ng eng chong <nec...@tm.net.my> wrote:
>
> many koreans claim that chinese language, chinese new year, Tao,
>medicine and other chinese culture are belong to koreans.This is not true.
> I hope most koreans will understand and accept that chinese
>culture has history of 5,000 years and instead most of Korean culture
>are originated from it.
> This is history and pls respect chinese culture, my friend.

I want to know if Chinese dinosaurs were better and more powerful
than Korean dinosaurs.

Juan Matus

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Nov 2, 2000, 2:11:59 AM11/2/00
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In soc.culture.korean ng eng chong <nec...@tm.net.my> wrote:

I hope that you can find a way to limit the scope of your messages next
time, so that we dont have to use too much bandwidth!! (or, is that really
a problem...)

Anyway, as the person who posted before seemed to allude to, you are, for
some reason, trying to boast of chinese superiorty, or, at least, you are
hoping to gain some credit for china from koreans.

First, I dont really see why you feel the need to do this. (i am
caucasian, and not familiar with chinese-korean relations in anyway,
though I am interested, which is why I am posting this.) It seems to be
self-evident that china has contributed to korean culture, why do you
feel the need to broadcast this fact? I don't see that there is a need. -
On the other hand, korea itself seems to have quite a solid culture of its
own. - And, further, knowledge tends to become transformed as it comes in
contact with other cultures, eg, buddhism. - anyway, my main question is
this: what was the motivation for your post?

Juan Matus

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Nov 2, 2000, 2:14:04 AM11/2/00
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I'm not sure if you know very much about east asia, but your ideal of a
clique seems to be simply myth only nourished by lack of information. For
me, the relationship between, at least japan and korea, is more like two
competing businessmen. They are similar to each other in some ways, and
different in others. But, in general, they are the most bitter ennemies
in all respects. - Are there exceptions?

ordosclan

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Nov 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/3/00
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:48:09 GMT, "mrlee" <NoSpam...@korea.com>
wrote:

>and your point is....?

And your korean? Points dont exist in the material world. I think
thats your problem, singularity. And the issue of always looking for
a single, collimating variable is an issue that needs much more space
than is available here to explain.

The clusters of sounds in japanese and korean specifically, and in all
languages in general, have no meaning. They are simply 'carrier
signals' for telepathic, empathic, emotional projection. If the
psychic distance is short enough.

Koreans probably have more of an affinity to the chinese than any of
the altaic peoples/languages. And the japanese the koreans, more than
chinese.

As far as what the experts think. Dont talk about the frog in the
well about the world above.


ordosclan

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Nov 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/3/00
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On Wed, 1 Nov 2000 20:51:04 +0800, "vignette"
<vign...@cyberway.com.sg> wrote:

>Let's not argue for nothing beneficial. Remember, the Chinese, the Japanese
>and the Koreans are all East Asians and are supposed to be a clique, just as
>the French, the Italians and the Spaniards or the Norwegians, the Swedish
>and the Danish each belong to one grouping. Hopefully, the Chinese, the
>Japanese and the Koreans can get along well with each other and forge a
>strong Asian identity.

Not as long as they each think themselves better than the other.


k...@dontspamme.com

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Nov 3, 2000, 2:30:02 AM11/3/00
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In article <XoXL5.8631$O5.1...@news.itd.umich.edu>, william john sowa

Interestingly enough, the most dinosaur fossils have been found in

China and the US.

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ypar...@my-deja.com

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Nov 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/4/00
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In article <38t50ts9fdubqpuud...@4ax.com>,

ordo...@china.com wrote:
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2000 07:48:09 GMT, "mrlee" <NoSpam...@korea.com>
> wrote:
>
> >and your point is....?
>
> And your korean? Points dont exist in the material world.


Just the way space does not exist?
Ring ,field, ball, disc, line also do not exist?

> I think
> thats your problem, singularity.

Your problem is that you spew out a few randomly arranged smart
sounding words that you do not understand yourself and hope that others
mistake them for signs of profound intellect.

> And the issue of always looking for

> a single, collimating variable ....

collimating variable... pehehheehhehe.


>is an issue that needs much more space
> than is available here to explain.

actually is an issue with respect to which you have no fucking clue
whatsoever except a fervent wish that others do not question your scam;
your phony ass will be hanging out in the cold.

Oh didn't you just say "point does not exist in material world"?
Neither does space(space being a set of points). So what the hell are
you yapping about?

>
> The clusters of sounds in japanese and korean specifically, and in all
> languages in general, have no meaning. They are simply 'carrier
> signals' for telepathic, empathic, emotional projection. If the
> psychic distance is short enough.

And likewise your fantasy about your ancestry has no meaning. It is
simply a manifestation of random and uncoordinated electric neuro-
discharges. There may be some who understand your gibberish and believe
your phony story. If they are stupid enough.


>
> Koreans probably have more of an affinity to the chinese than any of
> the altaic peoples/languages.

And you are just an ordinary little chinese boy who at some point
decided to spruce up your life by claiming non-chinese ancestry.
Not necessarily that it was out of nothing.

Your uncle may have told you some fraudulent story about your "brave
nomadic" ancestors.

Your friend may have told you something about your looking like
mongols. And when Mongols told you a similar thing out of jest,
bingo!! it impressed upon this little chinese boy so much that he
decided to be an "ordos" man for the rest of his life. Bhahahahaha.

Your claim to brahmin ancestry pretty much forfeits any chances for
the benefit of doubt that some dim-wits may still be willing to grant
you.

Y. Park

Coleman E. Howard

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