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Sara "The Fist" Salzman - A Compilation of Her Better Known Literary Works and Opinions

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Piotr Tavishsky

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Dedicated to Sara "The Fist" Salzman who loves to quote me out of context. I
have more class than she does and I show her literary works and opinions in full
context and unedited. If "The Fist" wants to defame me by twisting my words then
I will show the world what she is with her own writings in full context! The
door swings two ways Sara. You start it as usual and I will finish it which is
my legal and moral right. Tavish

From: ssch...@infinet.com Sara Schwartz aka Sara Salzman
<cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 114
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com

My Master holds the rope just so.

He knows me. Knows my moods. Knows the fear behind my eyes, both real and
imagined.

Those eyes widen as he gently lays the rope down, as he carefully,
methodically, systematically, lays the toys down on the bed.

Soft moans escape from behind gagged lips. I have been told to watch.
To see each and know that soon each will touch me.

He looks up briefly as he lays each down on the bed. Checking reactions.
Watching.

The short whip. A sigh.
The deerskin. The suede.

The small braided thong, the one that stings. A short moan.

The horsehair that stings but never marks.

The canes. The paddles. A pause.

I wait, knowing.

The small velvet bag that holds clamps. Clamps too severe for my breasts,
yet applied anyway.

A gasp. And then his smile.

He knows me. He knows I will take the pain to please him. He knows the
sacrifice I make to his Gods of Pain. He sees the torment in my eyes. The
desire to please. The love. The fear of the pain.

My Master holds the rope just so.

Through his fingers, around my wrists, making delicate rings softer than
steel. Stronger than steel. One on each wrist, a gentle bracelet that is
soon pulled tight, stretched to the bedposts and wrapped tightly. One on
each ankle. No matter how I tighten my muscles as he wraps the rope, still
it is perfectly tight. The circulation moves.
The ankle does not.

I lie face-up on the bed, my body a perfect X. Face up. Oh, Goddess, he's
going to whip my breasts.

But first, two small wooden clothespins bob before my eyes. I turn my
head, remember I am instructed to watch, turn back. The clothespins bite
the delicate flesh of each nipple. Grasp. Sting. Burn. He waits.

My Master knows me. Knows he can whip me, clothespins and all. Knows the
pain, where it will hurt the most, what I can and cannot take.
He waits.

The burning increases as the pins are removed. Ah, he will not whip me
with clothespins in place. But the moment when I was unsure, when the
blood pounded in my temples and the fear covered me like a shroud, then he
watched my eyes.

The whip falls. Which one is it now? I cannot turn my head to see which he
reaches for. But I know them all. I arch my back, try to stay still.

My Master knows me. Knows I will hold position as long as possible, before
the pain forces me to writhe, to turn, to try in vain to shield my
breasts. Knows the moment when I can no longer stay still. And precisely
then, says gently, "Don't move."

My Master holds the rope just so. Gently tugging at the knots, to release
arms and legs from bondage. Gently unwraps each wrist, each ankle. Rubs
each, and kisses the places where the rope has left its mark. The gag is
removed. I swallow.

"Kneel."

I crouch on the bed, head down, ass up, as he mounts the bed behind me.
His hands caress my ass softly, then spank sharply. Slowly, quickly, his
hand falls upon my ass. I wait for the moment, the pain/pleasure as he
will enter me. But not yet. First a gentle tapping, soft touch, as he
marks the place the cane will fall. I brace myself, plead with myself to
hold position, knowing each stroke brings a fire hotter than any flame.

Five strokes. Six. I have not moved. As the pain from each begins to
subside, a soft, half-sob. "Thank you, Master."

Eight. Nine. My knees give out, and I fall to the bed, sobbing. But
immediately back on my knees again. "Thank you, Master."

Ten. I am aware of nothing, save the pain. And his voice, as I am
commanded to orgasm, not from stimulation, not from his fingers or his
cock, but from pain alone. My body responds without hesitation. My
pleasure is screamed out for his pleasure.

Later, I will feel his cock inside me. I will feel the force as he thrusts
deep into me, bruising the tender flesh with his strength. Later I will
come, and come, and come, but only by his command. Later, we will lie
back, exhausted, as he cradles me in his arms, strokes me gently, whispers
in my ear.

But not yet.

Now he rises from the bed, returns to the toys so carefully laid out before
me.

My Master holds the rope just so.

<END>

This archived header proves Sara Salzman aka Sara Schwartz
aka Sara aka Perrrfect is the wife of Cou...@cris.com:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=schwartz-0201960750240001%40cmh-p077.infinet.com
From: schw...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Subject: Re: Compuserve
Date: 1996/01/02
Message-ID: <schwartz-020...@cmh-p077.infinet.com>
organization: Cat's Lair
reply-to: Cou...@cris.com
newsgroups: alt.internet.media-coverage

schw...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect) wrote:

>What a bunch of chickenshits at Compuserve for denying access to
>"pornographic" groups because the German government is whining about
>it.
>
>Funny... I don't see the German government getting upset about the
>Nazi groups online.
>
>Compuserve caved. I'm GLAD I get my addess through a provider that
>doesn't play those games.
>

Yes, Compuslop has once again decided they'd rather kow-tow to the
few, rather than stand on any principles. To call them chickenshits is
a bit unfair, however. To chickenshit.

[...]

I have heard that some folks posting on this topic have gotten flamed
for "supporting pedophiles". I don't know which trailer park such
flamers live in or I'd be asking the powers that be for a tornado
about now.

<<Doc Tavish comment April 25, 2003: Notice that Sara's husband also
minimalizes child porn just like NIZKOR.ORG Director Ken McVay does!!
It only figures this "Wild Bunch" would be allies!!>

Cougar

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

Now we have 100% proof that cou...@cris.com is Sara's husband. Notice
that the post was made under this account:
From: schw...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Subject: Re: Compuserve
Date: 1996/01/02
Message-ID: <schwartz-020...@cmh-p077.infinet.com>
organization: Cat's Lair

BUT notice it was signed by Cougar and the headers show this:
organization: Cat's Lair
reply-to: Cou...@cris.com

Now I revisit this post made by Sara's husband:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&rnum=2&selm=01bc415c%247211d820%24564153ce%40default
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Is A Switch More Sadistic Than A Sadist
Date: 1997/04/04
Message-ID: <01bc415c$7211d820$564153ce@default>
References: <334d4cd6...@news.praxis.net>
<01bc4036$365e69a0$5241...@crc3.concentric.net>
<334719e5...@news.praxis.net>
Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.sadistic,alt.torture

rain...@praxis.net wrote in article
<334719e5...@news.praxis.net>...
> "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com> wrote and I had to answer:
> >I'll stand and deliver, for the moment. I am one who did at least
> >_attempt_ to do the other side of the whip in a serious mode. Once. The
> >experiment (for that was what it was) was worse than a failure, as it cost me a
> >friendship.
:
> This one is very sad to hear that it cost you a friend....soemtimes we
> have to separate our friends from our sexuallity...not hide it from
> them, but not engage friends within it unless the friendship has grown
> out of it. Boy did this one make a bastard of that statement. Sadly
> too often when we go to bed with our friends and it does not work out,
> we lose both lover and friend for the relationship can never be the
> same...there that made more sense.

I believe you misunderstand. She was already in the scene. The event
that cost the friendship was the fact that she realized, as did I, who was
really "on top" during the session. She had asked for a massage, which
I delivered. She then asked what was different about what I had done and
a sensual massage. Being from Missouri, I showed her. At the end of that
massage I was clearly in charge and she had orgasmed.

She considered herself domme only.

> <minor snip for space>
> >Under no circumstances would I be able to replicate the experience of
> >being a female masochist in mentality. I wasn't raised female.
:
> Nope and for the most part even those who are...if they are not
> masochistic can not understand for the life of them WHY anyone would
> want to be.

An excellent example of your words are the Anne Rice Beauty stories.
How one can write a few hot scenes but not get the emotions behind them, I
don't know. You gotta be in the head and heart to make it hot in
reality.

> other than to keep the household budget and cook. Now a days there is
> more and more pointed towards young females and the slaves and subs of
> tomorrow may well give the Doms a hell of a run for the money.
>

As the step-father of a five year old domme in training (that is NOT
meant literally, oh yea of political correctness!) I think they'll give the
subs of tomorrow hell, too.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

Yep I guess ol' Cougar was kidding but then again who really knows.
Here is an another example of Sara Salzman's childrens' "exposure":

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=01bcb955%24e8324aa0%2440a89bcf%40crc3.concentric.net&output=gplain
From: "Cougar" <cou...@cris.com>
Subject: Re: Auto Bondage
Date: 1997/09/04
Message-ID: <01bcb955$e8324aa0$40a8...@crc3.concentric.net>
References: <340D79B7...@hotmail.com>
Organization: Cat Tales, Inc.
Newsgroups: alt.torture

There is a method of having yourself whipped, with a little work.

First, obtain a large household type fan, you may already own one.
Second, a timing device capable of being set to relatively short periods of
time, usually sold to turn lamps on and off in hardware stores. You will
need to have access to a drill, as well.

Open the fan up, taking the guard pieces off. Drill a hole about 1" in
from the tip of each fan blade. Next, take leather strips (boot laces from
any store will work for this) and knot one end through the hole in the fan
blade, leaving about 2 feet of the leather hanging off the end of the
blade.

Set the fan into a position to swing the leather strips so they will
fly parrallel to the floor. Set up the timing device to activate in a few
minutes, then stand within range of the leather strips on the fan
blade.When the power cuts on, the blades will begin to turn, the leather to
fly and you will be whipped by each strip as it passes. Start with the
fan's lowest power, but if that is too mild, set it higher.

Now, you might move away from the fan, so you might also practice some
self bondage to keep you in position, such as bent over a chair with your
ass sticking out where the fan's strips will strike your ass.

It isn't the cane, but that is best weilded by an experienced hand.

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

Here are pictures of Sara Salzman:
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif

She looks like she's been under her husband's electric fan torture
device once too often! :-)

PROOFS SARA SALZMAN WAS "(Sara aka Perrrfect)"

From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: F. E. Campbell dead
Date: 9 Feb 1995 11:59:22 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
Lines: 19
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sschwartz-090...@p24.infinet.com>
References: <sschwartz-060...@p01.infinet.com>
<47.266...@hedonism.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p24.infinet.com

In article <47.266...@hedonism.com>, bill....@hedonism.com (Bill
Majors) wrote:

> Ummm...well here I go betraying my ignorance. What has Geoffrey Merrick
> written. I tend to remember stories, not authors. In fact had I not met
> Frank I would not have realized who he was except that his name was as
> prominant as the title of the books.
>
I don't know much about him, except that he published a series of hardcore
bondage books called the Tyler Series. They were wonderful! I'll try and
dig up the publisher and get back to you.

Perrrfect

--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend

<END>

Same e-mail address plus here Sara Salzman is confessing a very vital fact:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-5FB93B.10103425042002%40news.concentric.net&rnum=1
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Double Standard?
Date: 25 Apr 2002 16:10:36 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Message-ID: <catamont-5FB93B...@news.concentric.net>

In article <ORDx8.430$6y.3...@typhoon.southeast.rr.com>, "Voice of
Reason" <voiceo...@blakely.harrogate.net> wrote:

> Sara used to post as Purrrfect One...

Liar. Never used that name. You've got me confused with someone else,
Father of Lies.

[...]

> or Sara Salzman

Yep. That's my name. I've been using it all my life, except for the time
I was married to my first husband. At that time, I used the name

> or Sara Schwartz aka Perrrfect

the "aka Perrrfect" part, if it's any of your business..

~~End of GOOGLE Archive~~

The above proves that Sara Salzman <cata...@concentric.net> posted
as Sara aka Perrrfect.

Sara Salzman also confessed being Sara Schwartz as shown here:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-2504982055590001%40ts008d17.den-co.concentric.net&rnum=1
From: cata...@concentric.net (Sara Salzman)
Subject: Re: Sara Schwartz/Salzman's _Je T'Accuse!_ (was: Jewish Ritual Murder)
Date: 1998/04/25
Message-ID: <catamont-250...@ts008d17.den-co.concentric.net>#1/1
References: <6gjtl1$f...@basement.replay.com>
<6glfrb$5...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <352E51...@earthlink.net>
<6gojdv$e...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <35311...@news.total.net>
<6gum6v$2...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <3533e...@news.total.net>
<6h1brv$b...@usenet.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <3538c...@news.total.net>
<6hk9ue$fiu$1...@cnn.cc.biu.ac.il>
<catamont-220...@ts005d04.lon-co.concentric.net>
<353ff...@news.total.net>
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism

Mr. Sabatini:

First of all, I'm curious why you felt it necessray to re-name the subject
of this thread. Yes, I used to be Sara Schwartz, when I was married. I
divorced Mr. Schwartz and returned to the use of my maiden name. (Sorry
Gord, I *did* remarry tho... :)

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

BACK TO THE LITERARY WORKS AND OPINIONS OF SARA "THE FIST" SALZMAN:

From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What is power? (was Re: Power Imbalance v. Power Exchange)
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 18:00:29 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 28
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p55.infinet.com>
References: <1995Jan27.2...@tantalus.clark.net>
<3gha46$p...@panix3.panix.com> <1995Jan30....@tantalus.clark.net>
<3gj06b$n...@crl9.crl.com> <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p55.infinet.com

In article <3gv6bm$4...@crl9.crl.com>, ver...@crl.com (Janet W. Hardy) wrote:

>
> Quick straw poll here: How many people have ever felt totally,
> completely safe during any S/M scene -- safeword or no, light or heavy,
> D/S or sensation-only?

Verdant:

I hate to muddle the semantics further, but...

safe? You mean safe that my Master won't break my leg or suffocate me to
the point of death in a scene?

100%. Period. I know my Master would never cause tha kind of damage.

Safe, as in not getting hurt, or not getting hurt MORE thn I'd LIKE to accept?
Certianly not 100%. Mastercat is always pushing limits, and pushing me to
the edge or slightly farther.

But safe in terms of not getting killed or left in bondage to die alone?
Absolutely 100%. And not only with my own Master, but I feel equally safe
with those other Dom(mes) he has had me play with.

Perrrfect

--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.

~~End~~

From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Sex slave looking for couple in D.C.
Message-ID: <sschwartz-220...@p00.infinet.com>
Date: 22 Feb 95 23:45:17 GMT
References: <3hutf0$k...@usenetw1.news.prodigy.com>
<3iajlv$1...@news.cc.geneseo.edu>
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 27
NNTP-Posting-Host: p45.infinet.com

In article <3iajlv$1...@news.cc.geneseo.edu>, (Mindy and Aaron Proietti) wrote:

> Hello Tim. My name is Mindy and I am 23 years old. My husband Aaron and I
> just got married and we are looking for some new excitement in the bedroom. We
> are very interested in your offer, and we would like to get to know you (all of
> you) better. Please write back with a full (and true) description of yourself.
> Hope to hear from you soon. Mindy and Aaron

Mindy:

If you're in Washington, you should join The Power Exchange. It's a local
BBS that's exclusively for SM folks. They're some of the best folks
around. We've met many of the people from the Board personally, and at the
parties they hold. I highly recommend it!

Sara

PS. Sorry to post this publicly. I couldn't respond to you via e-mail from
your address.

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End~~

THIS ONE IS A REAL SARA "The Fist" SALZMAN CLASSIC!!!

From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Fist Fucking
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p01.infinet.com>
Date: 12 Feb 95 04:19:44 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 13
NNTP-Posting-Host: p01.infinet.com

By the way... Elbow Grease IS WATER SOLUABLE.

Says so right on the label.

We've found for MANY things, it is "wetter" and slicker than KY.

Your mileage may, of course, vary.

Perrrfect

--
It never rains under my umbrella

~~End~~

From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Fist fucking (1)
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:19:07 GMT
References: <3hf46h$p...@nyx10.cs.du.edu> <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 19
NNTP-Posting-Host: p14.infinet.com

In article <3hg9a1$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com>, lant...@aol.com (L
Antoniou) wrote:

> Perhaps you should read the messages before responding. If you read all
> of mine, you will see that eventually I do suggest the "duck" position -
> all fingers together. What I (and Elf) was responding to was the
> suggestion that one *begin* fisting in that position. Of course, you go
> on to say *exactly that*.
>
In fact, Laura, I did NOT say you should begin in the "duck" position. I
just stated that it was the eventual position to achieve.

I'm sorry if I did not make that clear in my post. I *did* state that fist
fucking was not something I had done very often, and merely wanted to
impart my own (limited) experience.

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End~~

Imagine the person in these photos assuming the "duck" position and "fisting"
herself!
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/2/image.gif
http://www.westword.com/issues/11209/4/image.gif

I bet Sara keeps her nails clipped or else OUCH!

From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: GREAT NEWS!!!
Message-ID: <sschwartz-110...@p14.infinet.com>
Date: 11 Feb 95 13:12:13 GMT
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 20
NNTP-Posting-Host: p14.infinet.com

For those of you who weren't aware of it, SandMUtopia Guardian was on the
block. It looked like we were going to lose it for good.

However:

The Utopian Network (Adam Selene/Adam's Whips) has purchased it!

We've been talking to Gerry this weekend at Anything for Love here in
Columbus (Gerry = Jillian), and she says they have great plans for it!

It will be a quarterly at first, while they get the "hang" of publishing.
NO fiction, just informational articles, photographs, etc.

Lets cross fingers and wish them good luck!

Perrrfect

--
It never rains under my umbrella
Pete Townshend

~~End~~

From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What makes someone li
Date: 9 Feb 1995 12:28:37 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
Lines: 26
Message-ID: <sschwartz-090...@p24.infinet.com>
References: <9748WLTQK...@juris.com> <3hcclp$j...@news.cerf.net>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p24.infinet.com

In article <3hcclp$j...@news.cerf.net>, eigh...@cyberverse.com (Eightmeg) wrote:

> jmi...@juris.com wrote:
>
>
> : My point about most people being abused was merely a comment....it had
> : no point to make other than to inquire...
>
> My Domina and I have wondered the same thing. My experience is
> that I went to a BBS meeting for a small city and a large portion of the
> people there were, to my dismay, a very unbalanced, retarded looking
> abused lot. I sort of expected the people at an S&M club to be like
> that. But when I went to the S&M club, the people (generally) looked
> normal, bright, intelligent, balanced and attractive!
>
What small city? Those of us who live in small cities and who practise D&M
don't think of ourselves as unbalanced or retarded at all.

I believe a SERIOUS apology is needed here. This is a truly offensive post
to me, at least.

Perrrfect

--
"It never rains under my umbrella."
Pete Townshend

~~End~~

From: ssch...@infinet.com
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: BBS situation for comment
Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:51:33 -0500
Organization: InfiNet
Lines: 20
Message-ID: <sschwartz-050...@p21.infinet.com>
References: <3gup6u$7...@sundog.tiac.net> <3h0ra3$5...@tpe.ncm.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p21.infinet.com

In article <3h0ra3$5...@tpe.ncm.com>, gri...@tpe.ncm.com (Bob Grimes) wrote:

>
> The Power Exchange also has a dungeon avialable for members, but
> consenuality is not a problem. A submissive must accept a collar
> <thus consensuality> before the Dom who offered the collar can use
> that command and all other D/s commands.
>

Just to add a brief .02 here, not only is consensuality the basis for the
Dungeon on TPE, but the quality of the members also aids here. Just once,
I was addressed by a new member as "slut." Before I could even TYPE a
response, four other people on the Board had called this person (gently)
to task. I was impressed.

Perrrfect

--
Go ahead, take the moral high ground. All that divine backlighting makes an
excellent target.

~~End~~

From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: What's in a gag?
Followup-To: alt.sex.bondage
Date: 3 Feb 1995 13:00:46 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
Lines: 16
Distribution: world
Message-ID: <sschwartz-0...@p09.infinet.com>
References: <3gl7t9$6a...@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p09.infinet.com

In article <3gl7t9$6a...@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, PEG...@prodigy.com
(Steven Phillips) wrote:

> My wife wants to top her very truculant husband but need help in the
> gagging. Any good sugestions will be used. Our attempts seem to always
> fail.

There are a number of household items that make excellent gags. A small
piece of sponge wrapped in a bandana and then knotted. A "whiffle" golf
ball (practise ball) with a piece of cloth through it. A pair of panties,
or pantyhose.

What specific problems are you encountering?

Perrrfect
--
~~End~~

From: ssch...@infinet.com (Sara aka Perrrfect)
Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: YKINOKism revisited (was: Bigotry and Hatred. . .)
Followup-To: alt.sex.bondage
Date: 2 Feb 1995 13:56:13 GMT
Organization: Cat's Lair
Lines: 22
Message-ID: <sschwartz-0...@p17.infinet.com>
References: <233416Z...@anon.penet.fi>
NNTP-Posting-Host: p17.infinet.com

In article <233416Z...@anon.penet.fi>, an12...@anon.penet.fi
(Laurelie) wrote:

> 1. If you can say that the kinks of murder, rape, non-consensual
> abuse are not ok (and there are people with these kinks!), then
> you too, believe that all kinks are not created equal.
>

My only problem with an otherwise excellent, well-written, and beautifully
punctuated post is this. Murder is a KINK? Perhaps I need a definition here
of kink.

Granted, the dictionaries may not be too much help here, but the Webster's
9th defines it (in our context) as "2. a mental or physical peculiarity:
eccentricity, quirk, whim, 3. a clever unusual way of doing something"

I'm just not certain I can view murderers and rapsist as merely people with
different kinks than mine.

Can we get a good definition, Laurelie?

Thanks!

~~End~~

Need I say more other than Sara "The Fist" Salzman had all of her archives
quoted above NUKED- so the GOOGLE URLs no longer work BUT I had the foresight
to save them all as web pages knowing full well the pig would pull them.

Here is Sara missing her chance to deny she penned the "poem" at the top of this
posting:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=catamont-52E981.09191330042002%40news.concentric.net&rnum=2
From: Sara <cata...@concentric.net>
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,
Subject: Re: The Bizarre behavior of Sara Salzman
Date: 30 Apr 2002 15:19:14 GMT
Organization: Concentric Internet Services
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In article <7b1tcu41mqb6vsncg...@4ax.com>, Voice of
Reason <voiceo...@blakely.DELETEharrogate.net> wrote:

> On 30 Apr 2002 03:01:36 GMT, Sara "The Fist" Salzman
> <cata...@concentric.net> wrote:
> Sara Salzman post sexual torture and bondage stories for little kids
> to read. An example of her writings: This is when she was Sara
> Schwartz before dumping that husband for the superman Aryan she brags
> out. What a piece of garbage.
>
> From: ssch...@infinet.com
> Newsgroups: alt.sex.bondage,
> Subject: My Master Holds The Ropes Just So (poem)
> Date: Sun, 05 Feb 1995 14:49:12 -0500

Fantasy fiction.

~~End of GOOGLE Archival Excerpt~~

I saw no denial just "Fantasy fiction."

Tavish

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3crfru9ce2rb0snnls%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Children of the Devil and Anti-Christ[s] Positively Identified Using
Scripture-- Check The Proofs For Yourselves! V2.0
Message-ID: <vd01cvsh9ta3ep7b3...@4ax.com>
Date: 13 May 2003 05:29:00 GMT


knight57

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May 17, 2003, 6:05:52 PM5/17/03
to
Fatboy wrote some more stupid junk which I deleted.

None of this crap makes any difference, Fatslob.No matter what you
post about anyone else, you are still a lazy, lying, stupid worthless
egotistical bum who is the laughing stock of this ng. Your reputation
is a joke and your credibility is lower than whaleshit.

Fergus MacTavish

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May 17, 2003, 6:42:35 PM5/17/03
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On 17 May 2003 15:05:52 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

>Fatboy wrote some more stupid junk which I deleted.

^^^^^^

My name is not "Fatboy" and what does a person's weight have to do with whether
they are telling the truth or not or whether they are intelligent or not? You
are just like your fellow obnoxious loud mouth Jew Al Franken who wrote a book
titled "Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot." What did it prove? It didn't prove
Limbaugh was an idiot or that he was a liar. It proved only that Jew losers
like you and Al Franken can only hurl insults when you can't counter your
opposition using fact and logic. That is one reason why Jews are disliked!
"Chutzpa" really means just having a big loud mouth!

What is posted is what your fellow Yid smear agent wrote.

>None of this crap makes any difference, Fatslob.No matter what you
>post about anyone else, you are still a lazy, lying, stupid worthless
>egotistical bum who is the laughing stock of this ng. Your reputation
>is a joke and your credibility is lower than whaleshit.

---Traits and tactics of trolls commented on:
"Well, <<fill in the blank with whoever is smearing and/or lying now>> . . .
I've been debating 'anti-revisionists' in alt.revisionism for years and I've yet
to see you do anything other than hurl abuse at people. You people are bereft of
arguments. All you 'anti-revisionist' characters can do is call people names,
try to intimidate people, smear and defame them and, if that doesn't work, troll
like hell."
-From: "david_michael" <david_...@onetel.net.uk>
-Subject: Re: Paul Grubach
-Date: Tue, 13 May 2003 02:55:56 +0100
-Message-ID: <3ec0...@212.67.96.135>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tavish comment: Though I steadfastly disagreed with and ardently opposed
David's remarks about WTC it looks like he hit the nail on the head with
the observation he made above. The comment between << and >> was mine.

White Knight53

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May 18, 2003, 6:47:29 AM5/18/03
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On 17 May 2003 15:05:52 -0700, <abf0ff5d.03051...@posting.google.com>
tar...@indystart.com (knight57) wrote:

> you are still a lazy, lying, stupid worthless egotistical bum who is the laughing
> stock of this ng.

The Lying Jew Bastard is projecting again and he's the bum who can't keep a job
and has been fired numerous times!

Arthur J. Tandy can't keep a job!
"[M]y firings had nothing to do with my legal knowledge, idiot. They were what
happens frequently in business-personality conflicts."
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=594c8e48.0210040807.77d712f1%40posting.google.com&rnum=18
From: kni...@indystart.com (Black Knight)
Subject: REPOST-Matthews Plays the Lying Ignorant Fool
Date: 4 Oct 2002 09:07:41 -0700
Message-ID: <594c8e48.02100...@posting.google.com>
<<Did everyone notice Arthur J. Tandy said "my firings" which indicates he's
been fired more than once and in the same link Allan Matthews pointed out:
"I suppose this explains why the BrunoMoron, by its own admission, has been
fired at least twice." IOW Arthur J. Tandy appears to have mental problems.>>
Also see:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=d23e7vgil0gn3ecpetcpctvcib4fnl6r0q%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: V2.0 Three Firings!? Why Can't Arthur J. Tandy aka Black Knight aka Joe
Bruno Remain Employed? (Corrected)
Message-ID: <d23e7vgil0gn3ecpe...@4ax.com> Tavish

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