The ways of the Jewish and Christian God/Gods are inscrutable
Maimonides Jafar
"wali" <wa...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> And all that it implies, knows about, cares about, loves us. Never
> mind that it's absurdly impossible, an absurdity xians call a mystery, ...
It is not at all absurdly impossible or a mystery that Jesus's
Big-Daddy-Yahweh-God, channeled his care and love for the Jewish people
through his bigotry, chauvinism, racism, intolerance, hate-mongering,
elitism, supremacism, anti-nonSemitism, Gentile-baiting, hideous cruelty and
supra-Hitlerian genocide. See Deuteronomy 6:1-7 below.
It is because, 3,000 years ago, the psychologically cunning Jewish priests,
scribes and channelers were busy brain-washing the Jewish people into a
winning identity as God's Chosen People; of being the world's ultimate
innocent victims (The Jews were never in Egypt and Moses is a fiction); of
being in a grandiose alliance with none other than the Creator himself (who
parted the Red Sea for their fictional Exodus from Egypt); that non-Jews are
scum; and that their ultimate destiny would be to rule over the world. ~mj~
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The Torah : Deuteronomy 7:1-6
1 When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are entering to
possess and drives out before you many nations--the Hittites, Girgashites,
Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites, seven nations
larger and stronger than you--
2 and when the LORD your God has delivered them over to you and you have
defeated them, then you must destroy them totally. Make no treaty with them,
and show them no mercy.
3 Do not intermarry with them. Do not give your daughters to their sons or
take their daughters for your sons,
4 for they will turn your sons away from following me to serve other gods,
and the LORD's anger will burn against you and will quickly destroy you.
5 This is what you are to do to them: Break down their altars, smash their
sacred stones, cut down their Asherah poles and burn their idols in the
fire.
6 For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has
chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people,
his treasured possession.
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ernobe
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> "wali" <wa...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:fc027699.01061...@posting.google.com...
>
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> > And all that it implies, knows about, cares about, loves us. Never
> > mind that it's absurdly impossible, an absurdity xians call a mystery, ...
>
>
> It is not at all absurdly impossible or a mystery that Jesus's
> Big-Daddy-Yahweh-God, channeled his care and love for the Jewish people
> through his bigotry, chauvinism, racism, intolerance, hate-mongering,
> elitism, supremacism, anti-nonSemitism, Gentile-baiting, hideous cruelty and
> supra-Hitlerian genocide. See Deuteronomy 6:1-7 below.
>
> It is because, 3,000 years ago, the psychologically cunning Jewish priests,
> scribes
Do you ever wonder when your own psychological cunning will match
theirs? Isn't psychological cunning a good thing? And who else but the
priests have been responsible for cultivating it? Shouldn't they be
praised for it? And if the basic postulates of the religious psychology
is wrong, wouldn't it be logical to expect that the fundamental
principles of true psychology would have defeated the religious ones on
their own ground and prevented the rise of Christianity or Judaism or
Islam? Why did these obscure religionists succeed in beating the
psychological manipulations of all their enemies, who strove with all
their might to eliminate them?
The one and only drakmere
>In article <ueddh1H#AHA.256@cpmsnbbsa09>, ewa...@email.msn.com says...
>theirs? Isn't psychological cunning a good thing? And who else but the
>priests have been responsible for cultivating it? Shouldn't they be
>praised for it? And if the basic postulates of the religious psychology
>is wrong, wouldn't it be logical to expect that the fundamental
>principles of true psychology would have defeated the religious ones on
>their own ground and prevented the rise of Christianity or Judaism or
>Islam? Why did these obscure religionists succeed in beating the
>psychological manipulations of all their enemies, who strove with all
>their might to eliminate them?
>
Threats of violence in the cause of Christianity. In Rome: Be Christian or die.
When Christianity spread to the Pagan tribes, the same thing happened. The
Inquisition is another good example. Judiasm prevailed at first because
they were a huge powerful tribe who's identity centered around Judiasm.
After Diaspora, the need to gather into groups to protect themselves from
violent xenophobes helped. Islam started off as a path to prevent alot of
really bloody wars and then switched over to kill the infidels. The only
reason Christianity is so big is Constantine and possibly the fact that it
appealed to the peons more than the old state religion. The success or
failure of religions has very little to do with their appeal to any single
person. It should be noted that a person's religion is majorly controlled
by the religion of their parents.
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ernobe
drak...@mattrol.uscom.com says...
And this is why the beginning of all religions was marked by its
persecution, because people felt that it was contrary to everything they
had taught their kids and were themselves taught by their parents. The
previous religion inevitably persecutes the next one for this reason.
But it is all due to ignorance. We can't stop the misunderstanding from
ever occurring again, just as we cannot stop learning, but we can become
more conscious, more aware of the learning situations, and thus avoid
reacting so violently toward new things.
The one and only drakmere
<snip long paragraph and psychological fufillment and religion>
<Snip long paragraphy by me explaining religion results from bloodshed and
suffering>
>
>And this is why the beginning of all religions was marked by its
>persecution, because people felt that it was contrary to everything they
>had taught their kids and were themselves taught by their parents. The
>previous religion inevitably persecutes the next one for this reason.
>But it is all due to ignorance. We can't stop the misunderstanding from
>ever occurring again, just as we cannot stop learning, but we can become
>more conscious, more aware of the learning situations, and thus avoid
>reacting so violently toward new things.
My point was that the current religion are on top, not because they are
better or worse for the masses, but because they weren't as blatantly
bloodthirsty and/or provided protection from massive slaughter by
"missionaries."
ernobe
drak...@mattrol.uscom.com says...
> On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 21:02:24 -0600, ernobe <ern...@costarricense.com> wrote:
> <snip long paragraph and psychological fufillment and religion>
> <Snip long paragraphy by me explaining religion results from bloodshed and
> suffering>
> >
> >And this is why the beginning of all religions was marked by its
> >persecution, because people felt that it was contrary to everything they
> >had taught their kids and were themselves taught by their parents. The
> >previous religion inevitably persecutes the next one for this reason.
> >But it is all due to ignorance. We can't stop the misunderstanding from
> >ever occurring again, just as we cannot stop learning, but we can become
> >more conscious, more aware of the learning situations, and thus avoid
> >reacting so violently toward new things.
>
> My point was that the current religion are on top, not because they are
> better or worse for the masses, but because they weren't as blatantly
> bloodthirsty and/or provided protection from massive slaughter by
> "missionaries."
>
what they say they are.
Maimonides Jafar
"The one and only drakmere" <drak...@mattrol.uscom.com> wrote in message .
> My point was that the current religion are on top, not because they are
> better or worse for the masses, but because they weren't as blatantly
> bloodthirsty and/or provided protection from massive slaughter by
> "missionaries."
Are you *still* another Jewish guy with his head stuck up the arses of Xians
from the past? ~mj~
ernobe
what they are, they're Funny.
Maimonides Jafar
"ernobe" <ern...@costarricense.com> wrote in message
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> Not all Jews are what they say they are.
Have the Jews ever stated what they are about?
But from posts on these atheist, agnostic and humanism newsgroups, one gets
the distinct impression that they are about obsession with shite in
non-Jews. ~mj~
Maimonides Jafar
> But atheists don't even know what they are, they're Funny.
The non-Jewish atheists are not "funny".
They are the tragic dupes of the Jews in the Jewish Holy War against
Christianity.
And they help Jews fuel dissension, divisiveness and hatred in our country -
aided and abetted by other liberals. ~mj~
Jim Fay
Ah, but atheists are the only ones who DO actually know what we are. You
poor religionists can't agree on what it means to be a xian or a jew or
a muslim or anything else. You decide that YOU are whatever you think is
right, and then you start segmenting off everyone else. You like to
think that you're part of some community, whereas in reality each and
every one of you is just a church of one, a church which in truth
worships only the self.
Atheists, on the other hand, have disassociated themselves from
imaginary religious communities. I, for instance, don't pretend to have
millions of people who share my exact viewpoint. I'd be surprised to
even find two or three people who did, for that matter. I am me. And
that's all.
Laurie S.
I can't say much about the atheist/agnostic groups, since I see them
only in crossposts, but I've been reading those crossposts for some
time and have never noticed any "distinct impression" from Jewish
people there.
I do read talk.philosophy.humanism regularly, though, and there has
not been any notable population of Jewish people here. In fact, there
is no particular group that stands out here, except, obviously,
humanists. The majority of people here, it appears, do not subscribe
to any religious faith at all.
Laurie
John D. Leckie
Rinaldo of Capadoccia
about "Maimonides Jafar"
>This guy is one insane idiot...
You give him too much credit.
Actually, he's just an adolescent attention-seeking
gender-dysphoric pooptard troll, who gets off only while
eating human waste, and masturbating to recordings of his
own (or his mommy's) voice reciting hate speech.
If he grew up, he could be a real jerk.
But since no one will admire his alleged intellect, creativity,
or, above all "writing", he will very probably suicide before he grows
up. One small step for a shit-eating boy, one giant leap for
mankind.
Best way to advance the timetable for this much-to-be-longed-for
event is to act exactly as though he does not post anything, any time,
anywhere.
--
Rinaldo of Capadoccia
What one firmly believes today may no longer be tenable tomorrow.
"We must respect the other fellow's religion, but only in the
same sense and to the same extent that we respect his theory
that his wife is beautiful and his children smart"
-- HL Mencken
Al Klein
posted in alt.atheism:
No, he's just your average, every-day bigoted anti-Semite.
--
Al - Unnumbered Atheist #infinity
aklein at villagenet dot com