I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic and you should be also
Theodore Herzl
The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
several reasons.
1. The Jewish state of Israel is a fascist totalitarian apartheid
regime whose record of human rights violations is threatened by no
one. In today's world, if your pro-Israel you are not supporting
Judaism or Jews, you are supporting a Zionist regime that has violated
nearly every law of common decency every written by man or G-d.
2. Anti-Semitism is generally defined as "hostility toward or
discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group"
and does not include ones opposition to the Israeli regime or the evil
doctrine of Zionism. Zionist's have long attempted to associate
their greedy lust for land with Judaism and/or the Jewish people to
try to dissuade criticism of their rape, murder and plundering in
Palestine. Jews need not be Zionists and most Zionists are atheists
anyway so to even connect Zionism with Judaism is morally wrong in
itself.
3. As many Jews are also not in support of the fascist Israeli
regime, the Zionist's call them "self hating Jews" as the normal
anti-Semitic label cannot be used to dissuade them from speaking out
against Zionism. If a Jew who opposes Zionism and the policies of
the Israeli regime can handle being called self-hating Jews, I think
the rest of us can help them by wearing our anti-Semitic label proudly
in support of these brave Jews.
As you can see, being anti-Semitic is not a bad thing anymore. The
term was hijacked by the Zionist's via their repeated attempts to
cover their tracks by using lies, propaganda, bribery, political
correctness, fear and other fascist techniques to squelch opposition.
So wear your label proudly and tell the Zionist's to go to hell.
James
"Theodore Herzl" <AntiZ...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a44d57.03071...@posting.google.com...
And you sir are a complete idiot. You are probably proud of that too.
--
On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
swagman
"James" <jme...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:a0qdncLFRMU...@comcast.com...
You are the biggest idiot odf them all. jews have planned terror in United
States for many years to achieve their own ends, including the 911 terror
which was the work of Zionists!
Muslim, Zionist: Is There a Federal Double Standard?
Monday, July 14 2003 @ 06:05 PM GMT
By William Hughes
(PC) - On July 9, 2003, an Arabic-language newspaper publisher, Khaled
Abdel-Latif Dumeisi, was arrested in Chicago by federal authorities. He was
charged with "failing to register as a foreign agent for Iraq."
Ad revenues permitting, Dumeisi's newspaper comes out once or twice a month.
It is a very little fish in the big media ocean.
Dumeisi, a Muslim, could face up to 10 years in the federal slammer and a
$250,000 fine if convicted. According to the U.S. Attorney, Patrick J.
Fitzgerald, the defendant is suspected of "gathering information in the U.S.
about people living in America for the purpose of providing the information
to hostile governments." He added, "The charges are serious."
Well, it is kind of strange that Mr. Fitzgerald mentioned "hostile"
governments, since the law doesn't make that distinction. Is he trying to
say that if an American citizen acts as an agent for a foreign power, that's
supposedly an ally, like say Israel, he won't be prosecuted? Huh?
One of the reasons I'm asking is because, in the expose' "By Way of
Deception," ex-Mossad agent, Victor Ostrovsky revealed how "there are
thousands" of Jewish people around the world, including many residing in
North America, who are secretly working for Israel. They are called
"Sayanim." Question: Does anyone ever recall the Feds prosecuting any
U.S.-based "Sayanim" for not registering as a foreign agent?
And, who can ever forget that sleazy Marc Rich and the sordid presidential
pardon scandal. The fugitive billionaire was granted a full pardon by Bill
Clinton, as he left office in 2001. This plot appears to have originated in
Israel, where Rich had close Mossad ties. One of the advocates on Rich's
behalf was Abe Foxman, chief honcho of the Anti-Defamation League (ADL). His
organization had received a $250,000 donation from Rich. Isn't that nice?
Was Foxman doing Israel's dirty work in the Rich affair, and if so, should
he have registered, under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA), as its
agent? Foxman insisted he was just doing his own thing for an old
acquaintance. Oh yeah!
On another front, activists in California are still reeling from a very
alarming scandal that also involved the ADL. In the early '90s, it was
discovered that a slippery character, named Roy Bullock, was working for the
ADL and running a huge, domestic surveillance operation. His snooping
project focused on liberals. It was feared that confidential information may
have been filtered back by him to spy networks in Israel, South Africa and
the U.K. Did the Feds do anything about these serious charges that involved
the privacy rights of tens of thousands? No! The ubiquitous ADL has a budget
of over $50 million a year. It operates in all 50 states, and continues to
resemble, more and more, the caricature of "Big Brother," from George Orwell
's prophetic novel, "1984."
Incidentally, the Dumeisi indictment for allegedly violating (FARA) is
actually a rarity. FARA official generally prefer "voluntary compliance."
That policy gives rise to my next question: Is Dumeisi, a Jordanian, who was
born in Palestine, being targeted for SELECTIVE PROSECUTION to serve some
broader political purpose and/or is he a victim of an egregious double
standard by law enforcement officials?
Enter the odious Richard Perle. In 1996, according to Allan C. Brownfeld,
Perle, a notorious Neocon, helped to prepare a paper entitled, "A Clean
Break: A New Strategy for Securing the Realm." The study was "intended as a
political blueprint" for the upcoming Israeli "government of Binyamin
Netanyahu." Brownfeld underscored that the Perle was "clearly advising a
foreign government in 1996" (WRMEA, May 2003).
Brownfeld continued, "Perle's connections with Israel are particularly
extensive. He is a personal friend of Ariel Sharon, a board member of the
'Jerusalem Post,' and an ex-employee of the Israeli weapons manufacturer
Soltam." Perle has also been the subject of a highly critical article by top
investigative reporter Seymour Hersh ("New Yorker," 03/03), which dealt, in
part, with the arrogant Perle's controversial Israeli ties.
Within the Department of Justice, there is a special unit that administers
FARA. It maintains an office in Washington, D.C., which is open to the
public. On Friday, July 10th, I visited it. Relating to Israel, I couldn't
find any filings, as a registrant, by Richard Perle, Abe Foxman or the ADL.
"Foreign direction and control" are pivotal whether registration under FARA
is mandated or not.
However, the totality of Perle's incestuous relationship, over the years,
with Israel, warrants, at least, some threshold type of inquiry by the Feds.
Unfortunately, they have failed to take any action in that direction. Too
bad. He would be a bigger fish to fry than poor Khaled Dumeisi.
FARA does recognize certain exemptions to registering. For example,
diplomats of a foreign government aren't required to file or are persons who
are engaged in activists that are "purely commercial in nature or of a
religious, academic and charitable nature..."
Nevertheless, in light of the Dumeisi matter, people have the right to ask:
Is this federal law being fairly and equally administered, irrespective of
the race, creed and political affiliation of the accused? Is there, in fact,
a Federal double standard: one FARA law for Muslims-and another for
Zionists?
These questions deserve answers.
© William Hughes 2003. William Hughes is the author of "Andrew Jackson vs.
New World Order" (Authors Choice Press) and "Baltimore Iconoclast" (Writer's
Showcase). He can be reached at liamh...@mindspring.com.
Ed
>
> "Theodore Herzl" <AntiZ...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3a44d57.03071...@posting.google.com...
> > I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
And I'm sure you're proud to be sub-human as well.
Susan Cohen
> news:3a44d57.03071...@posting.google.com...
> > I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
[snip lies]
>
> And you sir are a complete idiot. You are probably proud of that too.
Considering his posts, no "probably" about it.
Susan
ChabadRainbow
1 Why standest Thou afar off, O LORD? Why hidest Thou Thyself in times of
trouble?
2 Through the pride of the wicked the poor is hotly pursued, they are taken
in the devices that they have imagined.
3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and the covetous vaunteth
himself, though he contemn the LORD.
4 The wicked, in the pride of his countenance [, saith]: 'He will not
require'; all his thoughts are: 'There is no God.'
5 His ways prosper at all times; Thy judgments are far above out of his
sight; as for all his adversaries, he puffeth at them.
6 He saith in his heart: 'I shall not be moved, I who to all generations
shall not be in adversity.'
7 His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and oppression; under his tongue
is mischief and iniquity.
8 He sitteth in the lurking-places of the villages; in secret places doth he
slay the innocent; his eyes are on the watch for the helpless.
9 He lieth in wait in a secret place as a lion in his lair, he lieth in wait
to catch the poor; {N}
he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him up in his net.
10 He croucheth, he boweth down, and the helpless fall into his mighty
claws.
11 He hath said in his heart: 'God hath forgotten; He hideth His face; He
will never see.'
12 Arise, O LORD; O God, lift up Thy hand; forget not the humble.
13 Wherefore doth the wicked contemn God, and say in his heart: 'Thou wilt
not require'?
14 Thou hast seen; for Thou beholdest trouble and vexation, to requite them
with Thy hand; {N}
unto Thee the helpless committeth himself; Thou hast been the helper of the
fatherless.
15 Break Thou the arm of the wicked; and as for the evil man, search out his
wickedness, till none be found.
16 The LORD is King for ever and ever; the nations are perished out of His
land.
17 LORD, Thou hast heard the desire of the humble: Thou wilt direct their
heart, Thou wilt cause Thine ear to attend;
18 To right the fatherless and the oppressed, that man who is of the earth
may be terrible no more. {P}
William A. Levinson
Oh no, he's discovered the secret plans of ZOG (Zionist Occupied
Government). It goes back a long way.
(1) Abraham Lincoln paid the JOOOZ to bombard Fort Sumter because he
wanted to start the Civil War.
(2) McKinley paid JOOOOZ to blow up the U.S.S. "Maine" in Havana so he
could start the Spanish-American War.
(3) Woodrow Wilson hired JOOOZ to take a submarine and torpedo the
"Lusitania" to hasten American entry into World War I.
(4)Franklin Roosevelt paid JOOOOZ to paint themselves yellow, undergo
plastic surgery to make their eyes slant, and bomb Pearl Harbor on
December 7, 1941. The JOOOZ had so much money that they could rent four
aircraft carriers from which to fly this mission. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE
WERE NO CARRIERS IN PEARL HARBOR THAT DAY? The JOOOZ were using all of them!
--Bill
http://www.omdurman.org/
http://www.omdurman.org/oxfam.html Don't give money to Oxfam International
William A. Levinson
Theodore Herzl wrote:
> I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>
> The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
> was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
> citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
> several reasons.
>
> 1. The Jewish state of Israel is
the only democracy in the Middle East. Thanks for playing, please try
again soon.
eric shinerman
> On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
> Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
"Five Israelis Arrested For Dancing In the Streets of New York on 9/11"
In 2001, Israel received in excess of 5,000 million US dollars, 3000
million in military vouchers.
In 2001, Palestinians received Hellfire missiles, Caterpillar armored
bulldozers, and US bombs dropped from US F16s.
Israelis are always dancing in the streets. US taxpayers are paying for
the band. Palestinians rarely have a reason to celebrate.
We are conducting a vicious proxy war against a people whose only crime
is having been born in a homeland under foreign occupation.
shinerman
Staticenz
You act like little children-
How is it that a person is an idiot because of his opinion?
Explain that to me....
You sound more like one with a guilty conscience than a paranoia
induced scapegoat. Any Gentile I know privately accepts
what we say here as fact. Publicly of course, they
board the Jew-bandwagon. Can you blame them?
Zionist Jews have big mouths, and they're all over corporate America.
That type of exposure could end a man's career.
If 90% of educated America is wrong about Jews
then why wouldn't you just ignore us?
I'll tell you why. The pattern of your history, and the obviousness of
the truth are all too apparent; even to you. Your pissed that your ruse has
been
exposed and refuse to admit defeat. People from all over the
country/world can come together like never before and share
all types of views without being exposed by a "PC" American
society as a horrid "Jew-hating Nazi".
Anonymity is a powerful thing.
Internet's a bitch aint it?
ChabadRainbow
It is good that the internet exists - using it for teaching, learning and
exchanging respect and honor.
We all know the story of Adam and Eve and the serpent and know what happened
to them. Well this might not look like much - but this is another kind of
Garden, with another kind of serpent and another Tree. We are being tested
to see how we will choose ~this~ time, knowing what we know.
Life or Destruction, Peace or War. It's in our hands.
"Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
news:V4KRa.84776$hV.57...@twister.austin.rr.com...
Susan Cohen
"ChabadRainbow" <hea...@bestweb.net> wrote in message
news:vherurf...@corp.supernews.com...
> B"H
>
> It is good that the internet exists - using it for teaching, learning and
> exchanging respect and honor.
>
Me, I have a rotten temper. When I see a Jew-hater, I usually give it right
back in their faces - I like to let them know that we aren't going down
easily ever again. But I also admire the serenity that allows you to just
sail on by such creatures with grace & dignity.
Susan
William A. Levinson
eric shinerman wrote:
> James wrote:
>
>
>>On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
>>Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
>
>
> "Five Israelis Arrested For Dancing In the Streets of New York on 9/11"
Your reference for this, or did you just make it up? I thought as much.
> In 2001, Israel received in excess of 5,000 million US dollars, 3000
> million in military vouchers.
Someone once asked Winston Churchill why England was fighting the Nazis.
He answered, "If we stop, you will find out." Hence Lend-Lease to England.
If Israel stops fighting the sand Nazis, we will find out too. Come to
think of it, we found out anyway, on 9/11. And Europe found out in 1683
why the Byzantines were fighting the Ottoman Empire in 1453.
> In 2001, Palestinians received Hellfire missiles, Caterpillar armored
> bulldozers, and US bombs dropped from US F16s.
'Tis better to give than to receive.
>
> Israelis are always dancing in the streets. US taxpayers are paying for
> the band. Palestinians rarely have a reason to celebrate.
> We are conducting a vicious proxy war against a people whose only crime
> is
killing Olympic athletes, school shootings (Ma'alot), blowing up Seders,
buses, stores, and dance halls, and ongoing murder of women and
children. Thanks for playing, please try again soon.
Ron
>
> The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
> was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
> citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
> several reasons.
>
> 1. The Jewish state of Israel is a fascist totalitarian apartheid
> regime whose record of human rights violations is threatened by no
> one. In today's world, if your pro-Israel you are not supporting
> Judaism or Jews, you are supporting a Zionist regime that has violated
> nearly every law of common decency every written by man or G-d.
Anti-Semitic Lie #1. As everyone knows, Israel has committed NO human
rights violations.
>
> 2. Anti-Semitism is generally defined as "hostility toward or
> discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group"
> and does not include ones opposition to the Israeli regime or the evil
> doctrine of Zionism. Zionist's have long attempted to associate
> their greedy lust for land with Judaism and/or the Jewish people to
> try to dissuade criticism of their rape, murder and plundering in
> Palestine. Jews need not be Zionists and most Zionists are atheists
> anyway so to even connect Zionism with Judaism is morally wrong in
> itself.
Anti-Semitic Lie #2. Israel has committed NO rape, murder, or plundering of
the pallie squatters on Israeli land.
>
> 3. As many Jews are also not in support of the fascist Israeli
> regime, the Zionist's call them "self hating Jews" as the normal
> anti-Semitic label cannot be used to dissuade them from speaking out
> against Zionism. If a Jew who opposes Zionism and the policies of
> the Israeli regime can handle being called self-hating Jews, I think
> the rest of us can help them by wearing our anti-Semitic label proudly
> in support of these brave Jews.
Anti-Semitic Lie #3. It is documented fact that Jews who have been abused
for so many years have often become mentally unstable and suicidal as
victims of that abuse. They require professional care before they can again
become productive members of society.
William A. Levinson
Staticenz wrote:
> All the Jews on this board do is call names..
Keep on thinking that, little boy.
> You act like little children-
> How is it that a person is an idiot because of his opinion?
> Explain that to me....
The JOOOZ control everything! ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government) is
everywhere! Yes, you do sound like an idiot.
> You sound more like one with a guilty conscience than a paranoia
> induced scapegoat. Any Gentile I know privately accepts
> what we say here as fact. Publicly of course, they
> board the Jew-bandwagon. Can you blame them?
> Zionist Jews have big mouths, and they're all over corporate America.
> That type of exposure could end a man's career.
All right, which Arab/ white supremacist stock propaganda are you
quoting? I've seen this, or variants of it, elsewhere.
> If 90% of educated America is wrong about Jews
> then why wouldn't you just ignore us?
Jews ignored Hitler during the early 1930s, when he could have been
stopped, and look what happened to them (and a lot of other people).
Today's nutcase/ fruitcake may be tomorrow's Reichsfuhrer. Ninety-nine
percent of the time, today's nutcase or fruitcake will be no more than
that tomorrow, but you can never be sure.
Remember the anti-Second Amendment Million Mom March, which looked like
a rising political force in 2000? It had tens of thousands of members
back then. It's now a vassal of the Brady Center, on life support from
that organization. It's basically an office at Brady, with a Web domain.
Hell, I have two political Web domains myself.
The MMM dares not stick its head up in any publicly-accessible Internet
forum; it's effectively in a "revolutionary cell" mode, where you have
to be carefully vetted to get in. That is the position of the weaker
power in any conflict, whether military or political. I'll leave your
own paranoid fantasies to guess who the stronger power is and exactly
what happened to the MMM, but I'll tell you this much; your raghead
friends' "fronts" such as Oxfam Solidarity are next.
>
> I'll tell you why. The pattern of your history, and the obviousness of
> the truth are all too apparent; even to you. Your pissed that your ruse has
> been
> exposed and refuse to admit defeat. People from all over the
> country/world can come together like never before and share
> all types of views without being exposed by a "PC" American
> society as a horrid "Jew-hating Nazi".
> Anonymity is a powerful thing.
Unlike you, I don't need to slither around in holes and I never have. I
can keep the field against any political enemy because I am always the
better man.
> Internet's a bitch aint it?
For your raghead friends, yes. Electronic Intifada, meet the electronic
Omdurman! (1898, defeat of the Mahdists by Kitchener. Winston Churchill
rides in England's last effective cavalry charge.)
Crawl back into your hole, boy, and come back when you have a real name.
BOEDICIA
>From: "James" jme...@bellsouth.net
>Date: 7/17/03 5:25 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <a0qdncLFRMU...@comcast.com>
And hoping that their 6 billion dollars would arrive on time.
and the
>Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
Not to forget the dancing Israelis in N.Y.
BOEDICIA
>Date: 7/17/03 7:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <vheon7o...@corp.supernews.com>
>Psalms Chapter 10
Is that the King James Version or the "Jewish Bible"?
>1 Why standest Thou afar off, O LORD? Why hidest Thou Thyself in times of
>trouble?
The JDL is looking for Him.
>2 Through the pride of the wicked the poor is hotly pursued, they are taken
>in the devices that they have imagined.
True, the IRA is everywhere.
>3 For the wicked boasteth of his heart's desire, and the covetous vaunteth
>himself, though he contemn the LORD.
Leave Jesse Jackson out of this.
>4 The wicked, in the pride of his countenance [, saith]: 'He will not
>require'; all his thoughts are: 'There is no God.'
Sounds more like the late Madelyn Murray
OHare.
>His mouth is full of cursing and deceit and oppression; under his tongue
>is mischief and iniquity.
Now we're back to Clinton again.
>He sitteth in the lurking-places of the villages; in secret places doth he
>slay the innocent; his eyes are on the watch for the helpless.
Sounds like Harlem on a Saturday night.
>He lieth in wait in a secret place as a lion in his lair, he lieth in wait
>to catch the poor; {N}
>he doth catch the poor, when he draweth him up in his net.
Or even Central Park after dark.
>He croucheth, he boweth down, and the helpless fall into his mighty
>claws.
Wilding.
>Thou hast seen; for Thou beholdest trouble and vexation, to requite them
>with Thy hand; {N}
>unto Thee the helpless committeth himself; Thou hast been the helper of the
>fatherless.
>To right the fatherless and the oppressed, that man who is of the earth
>may be terrible no more. {P}
I agree, go after those deadbeat dads
and if they don't cough up, put them in jail and throw away the key.
Thank you for today's sermon Rabbi
Peskin. When they let you out of the loonybin, please keep up the good work.
abu ishrak
>
> eric shinerman wrote:
> > James wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
> >>Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
> >
> >
> > "Five Israelis Arrested For Dancing In the Streets of New York on 9/11"
>
> Your reference for this, or did you just make it up?
> I thought as much.
Gotta love it. If what you "think" is generally this wrong, that
explains a lot. How bow Die Judischer Forward, bub?
http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html
too lazy to search it, right?
it's from the "legitimate" press. pops up easy if you search the right
params. ABC may be the original source.
some old lady called in on them. they were questioned and released.
I'd be whooping and throwing my hat in the air too if i'd accidentally
recorded a million dollar video.
May have been that long shot showing the plane crossing Manhattan.
Best video of the whole bunch.
>
> > In 2001, Israel received in excess of 5,000 million US dollars, 3000
> > million in military vouchers.
>
> Someone once asked Winston Churchill why England was fighting the Nazis.
> He answered, "If we stop, you will find out." Hence Lend-Lease to England.
>
> If Israel stops fighting the sand Nazis, we will find out too. Come to
> think of it, we found out anyway, on 9/11.
No, that's like saying the 1973 counterattack was an Arab attack.
When you proxy war people, they justifiably get pissed.
> And Europe found out in 1683
those were Turks, not arabs
> why the Byzantines were fighting the Ottoman Empire in 1453.
the byzantines weren't fighting. they were marching around the city with
candles asking the Mother of God to save them with lightning. Read your
Gibbon, son. You of all people should know what happens if you expect
"God" to save you.
>
> > In 2001, Palestinians received Hellfire missiles, Caterpillar armored
> > bulldozers, and US bombs dropped from US F16s.
>
> 'Tis better to give than to receive.
Don't you mean "tis better to steal than to buy??"
>
> >
> > Israelis are always dancing in the streets. US taxpayers are paying for
> > the band. Palestinians rarely have a reason to celebrate.
> > We are conducting a vicious proxy war against a people whose only crime
> > is
>
> killing Olympic athletes, school shootings (Ma'alot), blowing up Seders,
> buses, stores, and dance halls, and ongoing murder of women and
> children.
Everything you cited happened after the 1967 land grab.
The aggressor condemns the resistance of its victims, what else is new?
Hooligans, saboteurs and counterrevolutionaries, right?
Tewwowwists.
Shit happens in wars. Besides, the Jews taught them how to do it, innit?
King David Hotel
http://www.palaestina-info.dk/images/08_13.jpg
Thanks for playing, please try again soon.
>
> --Bill
> http://www.omdurman.org/
> http://www.omdurman.org/oxfam.html Don't give money to Oxfam International
shinerman
Die, fasshits, die!
abu ishrak
>
> Theodore Herzl wrote:
> > I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
> >
> > The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
> > was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
> > citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
> > several reasons.
> >
> > 1. The Jewish state of Israel is
the only democracy in the world with 50% of its citizens locked in their
houses.
Boondock Saint
> I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>
> The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
> was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
> citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
> several reasons.
<snip>
Yes, it goes in and out of flavor through the centuries. Racism against
the Jews, that is, not the term. That is why it is proven that a nation
must not be without its' land.
I watched the Pianist the other night and this Polish lady said, "What,
Jews fighting back?" Not like Poland went down fighting to its' last
man. (Nothing like France, though).
So, you hate the Jew, get in line. Thank goodness the Jew is not forced
to be without national defense, courts of law, authority and power any
longer.
It is because of racist haters such as yourself that Israel must exist.
You have forced Israel to exist, you and those on whose shoulders you stand.
Staticenz
All the Jews on this board do is call names..
> Keep on thinking that, little boy.
...and you keep proving it you fuckin nut
> > You act like little children-
> > How is it that a person is an idiot because of his opinion?
> > Explain that to me....
> The JOOOZ control everything! ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government) is
> everywhere! Yes, you do sound like an idiot.
You are trying to pile me into a stereotype. You think that anyone who has
an
ill word about the Jews or their possible motivation and/or influence wants
them
all dead. I don't recall saying (or even implying) the above Your putting
words
into my mouth to get an upper hand. Simple minds brew simple strategies.
> > You sound more like one with a guilty conscience than a paranoia
> > induced scapegoat. Any Gentile I know privately accepts
> > what we say here as fact. Publicly of course, they
> > board the Jew-bandwagon. Can you blame them?
> > Zionist Jews have big mouths, and they're all over corporate America.
> > That type of exposure could end a man's career.
> All right, which Arab/ white supremacist stock propaganda are you
> quoting? I've seen this, or variants of it, elsewhere.
This is no quote. If you've heard it elsewhere this just further proves my
point. I don't
get into reading other peoples garbage. I formulate my own opinions, through
my own
experiences. And, (as if it were of some relevance) I am not Arab, nor do I
belong to any WS group.
The first is way off the mark. Im about as white-bread as they get. All
American, (Sicilian-American)
Wife, kids, dog...ect. The latter is a group of angry, foolish youth. Im
just a man with
astute powers of observation. I don't HATE the Jew. I don't HATE any group
of people.
Rather, I question the motive of a group that see's itself as separate from
Americans. I'm not saying that
Jews are trying to control the world. I'm saying that Zionist Jews run
today's media. It's fact, look it up.
Do some reading before you come here and spew your insults and lies.
I don't have the time nor the energy to respond to the rest of your drivel,
but I hit the important stuff.
BTW.
I have no affiliation with the M&M's or whomever you were slamming. I have
NO affiliation what-so-ever
with ANY lame conspiracy group. I call them as I see them. PUBLICLY
> Unlike you, I don't need to slither around in holes and I never have. I
> can keep the field against any political enemy because I am always the
> better man.
> > Internet's a bitch aint it?
> For your raghead friends, yes. Electronic Intifada, meet the electronic
> Omdurman! (1898, defeat of the Mahdists by Kitchener. Winston Churchill
> rides in England's last effective cavalry charge.)
> Crawl back into your hole, boy, and come back when you have a real name.
I have no hole. I have rag friends yes. I also have Jew friends (whom I
believe would stab me in the
back given the chance) I have friends of every nationality. White, Black,
Laotian...ect.
What's your point.
And, I have a real name. It's called - Popular Consensus
Ed
"William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in message
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Ed
"William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> > James wrote:
> >
> >
> >>On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
> >>Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
> >
> >
> > "Five Israelis Arrested For Dancing In the Streets of New York on 9/11"
>
> Your reference for this, or did you just make it up? I thought as much.
His reference, presumably, is that pic of a white van taken from around 300
yards away that allegedly had the 5 Israelis inside of it. Nothing else. I
remember seeing that website and thinking it proved absolutely nothing.
The whole story of "Five Israelis Arrested for Dancing In The Streets of New
York on 9/11" is rapidly approaching the status of "urban legend."
RefugeeDeveloper
have stolen land.
its pathetic how anyone from paris or california with a nice life can
just pack his bags and go to some Jerusalem flat while the rightfull
owners are living in camps miles to the east. also illegal.
justifying evil is a bit difficult, even if you have money.
"William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in message news:<3F1774BD...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com>...
Patricia Heil
the name you use for posting. You shame your parents.
You shame your nation. You shame humanity.
Theodore Herzl wrote:
>
abu ishrak
Just saw Bush and Bliar's press conference. They look like deer caught
in the headlights. May they rot in hell. May Bush be sodomized in
federal prison.
Bob Graham is suggesting impeachment.
Re: "urban legends"
Laziness and stupidity can make you a Zionist. You are warned.
"They are said to have had been caught videotaping the disaster
and shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery."
-Haaretz
Ed wrote:
>
> "William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in message
> news:3F1774BD...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com...
> >
> >
> > eric shinerman wrote:
> > > James wrote:
> > >
Man, you guys just don't know how to use an archive, do ya?
I posted a source on this three hours ago.
The (Jewish) Forward was the first one I found *this time*:
http://www.forward.com/issues/2002/02.03.15/news2.html
read abu ishrak's post for details
original details came from ABC, I think.
Eureka! found it on my drive:
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=75266&contrassID=
5 Israelis detained for `puzzling behavior' after WTC tragedy
By Yossi Melman
Five Israelis who had worked for a moving company based in New Jersey
are
being held in U.S. prisons for what the Federal Bureau of Investigation
has
described as "puzzling behavior" following the terror attack on the
World
Trade Center in New York last Tuesday. The five are expected to be
deported
sometime soon.
The families of the five, who asked that their names not be released,
said
that their sons had been questioned by the FBI for hours on end, had
been
kept in solitary confinement for three days, and had been humiliated,
stripped of their clothes and blindfolded.
The mother of one of the young men explained the chain of events as she
understands it to Ha'aretz:
She said that the five had worked for the company, which is owned by an
Israeli, for between two months and two years. They had been arrested
some
four hours after the attack on the Twin Towers while filming the smoking
skyline from the roof of their company's building, she said. It appears
that
they were spotted by one of the neighbors who called the police and the
FBI.
The mother said that the families and friends of the five in Israel had
known nothing of the men's whereabouts for a number of days.
"When they finally let my son make a phone call for the first time to a
friend in the United States two days ago, he told him that he had been
tortured by the FBI in a basement," the mother said. "He was stripped to
his
underwear; he was blindfolded and questioned for 14 hours. They thought
that
because he has citizenship of a European country as well as of Israel
that
he was working for the Mossad [Israel's secret service]."
Seven FBI agents later stormed the apartment of one of the Israelis,
searched it and questioned his roommate. The Israeli owner of the
company,
who has U.S. citizenship, was also questioned. Both men were
subsequently
released.
The families here complained that the Israeli consulate in New York and
the
situation room set up by the Foreign Ministry there to locate missing
Israelis had done nothing to help their sons. The Foreign Ministry told
the
families that the FBI had denied holding the five and that the consulate
had
chosen to believe the FBI, the mother said.
The five were transferred out of the FBI's facility on Saturday morning
and
are now being held in two prisons in New Jersey by the Immigration and
Naturalization Services. They are charged with illegally residing in the
United States and working there without permits.
The Foreign Ministry said in response that it had been informed by the
consulate in New York that the FBI had arrested the five for "puzzling
behavior." They are said to have had been caught videotaping the
disaster
and shouting in what was interpreted as cries of joy and mockery.
do your own research in the future. it might wake you up.
> > >
> > >>On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
> > >>Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Five Israelis Arrested For Dancing In the Streets of New York on 9/11"
> >
> > Your reference for this, or did you just make it up? I thought as much.
>
> His reference, presumably, is that pic of a white van taken from around 300
> yards away that allegedly had the 5 Israelis inside of it. Nothing else. I
> remember seeing that website and thinking it proved absolutely nothing.
>
> The whole story of "Five Israelis Arrested for Dancing In The Streets of New
> York on 9/11" is rapidly approaching the status of "urban legend."
This reflects strongly on the "credibility" that should be attached to
any of your future knee-jerk denials. But then, self-hypnosis and denial
is all that keeps Zionists going, isn't it?
"The truth must be wrong if it conflicts with my beliefs".
That's a recipe for ending up in a straight jacket, talking to yourself,
ass clown. (ass clown is a registered trademark of RJ Goldman. Used
without permission)
shinerman
AnonMoos
> No Israel, No 9/11
Hey Shiney-baby, you seem to have gullibly fallen for Osama bin
Ladin's lies and swallowed his propaganda line hook line and sinker.
Osama bin Ladin doesn't really care too much about the Palestinians
(notice that for well over five years, al-Qaeda never did anything
whatsoever to strike at Israeli or Jewish targets?), and he only
mentions Israel in his propaganda statements in order to recruit
gullible "useful idiots" and keep up the flow of donations from
wealthy Saudis. Meanwhile, all you conspiracy-theorist types pride
yourselves on being ultra-skeptical, and on being clever enough to
"see through" everything to discern the true hidden causes -- but you
actually are ready to fall for any bizarre far-out theory that comes
along, so what it comes down to in point of fact is that you're really
ultra-gullible, not ultra-skeptical! P.S. Did you know that the word
"gullible" isn't listed in the dictionary?
=======================================================================
Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs
Jerusalem Letter / Viewpoints
No. 463 14 Tishrei 5762 / 1 October 2001
http://www.jcpa.org/jl/vp463.htm
ISRAEL IS NOT THE ISSUE: MILITANT ISLAM AND AMERICA
Dore Gold
Did Support for Israel Trigger Islamic Fury? / Ideological Sources
of Bin Laden's Anti-Americanism / The "Holy Land" is Arabia /
Purifying Islam from Alien Innovations / The Organizational
Priorities of the Bin Laden Network / The Supportive Media
Environment in Arab States / Israel and the Quest for a Coalition /
The Real Issue: Anti-American Incitement
Did Support for Israel Trigger Islamic Fury?
After the September 11 terrorist assault on the World Trade Center and
the Pentagon, many American analysts have been seeking to understand
the source of the intense hatred against the United States that could
have motivated an act of violence on such an unprecedented scale. In
that context, a new canard is beginning to run through repeated news
reports and features: that somehow America's support for Israel is
behind the fury of militant Islamic movements, like that of Osama bin
Laden, towards the United States. Indeed, a _Newsweek_ poll conducted
on October 4-5, 2001, found that 58 percent of Americans believe that
the U.S. relationship with Israel is "a big reason terrorists attacked
the United States."[1]
These attitudes had to come from somewhere. For example, Caryl Murphy
wrote in the _Washington Post:_ "If we want to avoid creating more
terrorists, we must end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict quickly."[2]
Similarly, Gary Kamiya, _Salon_ magazine's executive editor, added: "A
sword will hang over the U.S. until we convince Israel to make peace
with the Palestinians."[3] Appearing on ABC with Peter Jennings,
Hanan Ashrawi also charged that the U.S. alliance with Israel was to
blame for the September 11 attack.[4]
This argument, unfortunately, has also found particular currency in
Europe. Thus, British Foreign Minster Jack Straw told an Iranian
newspaper: "One of the factors that helps breed terror is the anger
that many people in the region feel at events over the years in the
Palestinian territories."[5] Egyptian diplomacy has clearly found
this theme to be useful; thus President Mubarak asserted during a trip
to Germany: "Without solving the Palestine problem with U.S. and
European help we will see a new generation of terrorists threatening
world security."[6]
One significant exception to this trend was the Saudi Ambassador to
the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, who frankly answered a
question posed by CNN's Larry King as to whether the sentiment that
caused the attack came from frustration over the failure of the peace
process: "As a cause of it, I don't think so."[7]
Bin Laden himself only placed the Palestinian issue front and center
among his grievances against the West during a video clip broadcast
_after_ Anglo-American Forces began their retaliatory strikes against
Afghanistan on October 7, 2001: "America will never dream nor those
who live in America will never taste security and safety unless we
feel security and safety in our land and in Palestine."[8]
Yet a careful examination of the ideology and organization of bin
Laden's al-Qaida terrorist network demonstrates that these
disturbingly ubiquitous assertions about the centrality of Israel as
the cause of the fury of militant Islam are seriously flawed. In
fact, state-supported media in parts of the Arab world continually
engage in incitement of the Arab civilian population against the
United States, regardless of the Israeli factor. Unless the sources
of anti-Americanism are correctly understood and addressed,
policy-makers are likely to fail to deal with the _true_ motivating
factors behind the attack on the United States.
Ideological Sources of Bin Laden's Anti-Americanism
A 1998 _fatwa_ (religious ruling) issued by bin Laden jointly with
militant Islamic leaders from Egypt, Pakistan, and Bangladesh provides
an insight into the sources of his anti-Americanism.[9] The document
calls "on every Muslim...to kill the Americans and plunder their money
wherever and whenever they find it." True, bin Laden uses language
like "the Zionist-Crusader alliance" that sweeps in the issue of
Israel, but the _primary_ justification for doing so is that "for over
seven years the United States has been occupying the lands of Islam in
the holiest of places, the Arabian Peninsula, plundering its riches,
dictating to its rulers, humiliating its people, [and] terrorizing its
neighbors." Having helped to defeat the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in
the 1980s with other Arab volunteers, bin Laden has now turned his
attention to the remaining superpower, the United States. U.S. forces
are specifically described as "Crusader armies spreading...like
locusts."
A _second_ bin Laden grievance is "the continuing aggression against
the Iraqi people." The "guarantee of Israel's survival" appears only
as the _third_ reason for criticizing U.S. policy. Bin Laden also
refers to the Jews' "occupation of Jerusalem," but gives no indication
whatsoever of accepting Jewish statehood within any borders. In fact,
in 1998 he was critical of the Saudis for their support of "Yasser
Arafat's regime" against Hamas.[10] Israel's very existence is the
issue -- not the status of the peace process. It is not surprising
that the planning and training for the September 11 attack is believed
to have begun several years ago, well before the current Palestinian
intifada and the stalemate in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process.
There simply is no correlation between the new terrorism facing the
U.S. and the Arab-Israeli peace process.
The "Holy Land" is Arabia
Professor Bernard Lewis of Princeton University also noted bin Laden's
prioritization in his analysis of bin Laden's 1998 _fatwa_ in _Foreign
Affairs: _
The three areas of grievance listed in the declaration -- Arabia,
Iraq, and Jerusalem -- will be familiar to observers of the Middle
Eastern scene. What may be less familiar is the sequence and
emphasis. For Muslims, as we in the West sometimes tend to forget
but those familiar with Islamic history and literature know, the
_holy land_ par excellence is Arabia -- Mecca, where the Prophet
was born; Medina, where he established the first Muslim state; and
the Hijaz, whose people were the first to rally to the new
faith....Thereafter, except for a brief interlude in Syria, the
center of the Islamic world and the scene of its major achievements
was Iraq....For Muslims, no piece of land once added to the realm
of Islam can ever be finally renounced, _but none compares in
significance_ with Arabia and Iraq...._Of those two, Arabia is by
far the more important_ (emphasis added).[11]
Bin Laden issued an earlier document in 1996 called a "Declaration of
War Against the American Occupying of the Land of the Two Holy Places"
(referring to Mecca and Medina). Here, too, bin Laden demonstrated
that his priorities focus first and foremost on the Arabian peninsula:
"If there is more than one duty to be carried out, then the most
important one should receive priority. Clearly after Belief _(Imaan),
there is no more important duty than pushing the American enemy out of
the holy land_ (i.e., Arabia) (emphasis added)." Bin Laden made the
same point in a 1998 interview with ABC News: "Allah ordered us in
this religion to purify Muslim land of all non-believers and
_especially the Arabian Peninsula, where the Ke'ba is _(emphasis
added)."[12]
Purifying Islam from Alien Innovations
In order to understand this prioritization, it is necessary to delve
into the general mindset of militant Islam. Like the Wahhabis of
eighteenth century Arabia, followers of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab
(1703-1787), whose doctrine was part of bin Laden's early Saudi
education, militant Islamists seek to return Islam to a more
puritanical period, like the seventh century of the Prophet Muhammad,
before the Islamic world was contaminated by alien ideas, especially
>from the West but also from within the Middle East. In their view,
the sources of heterodox impurities in Islam had to be eradicated.
The early Wahhabi movement, which had formed a political alliance with
the Saudi family, attacked Shi'ites as heretics and even sacked the
Iraqi Shi'ite holy city of Karbala in 1801, slaughtering its
residents. The Taliban, who came out of Islamic seminaries in
Pakistan funded by Saudi Arabia and inspired by its Wahhabi
doctrine,[13] actually continued this violent Wahhabi tradition
through their harsh treatment of Afghan Shi'ites.
Looking beyond the adherents of Wahhabism to the wider perspective of
militant Islamists more generally, the Islamic world _(Dar al-Islam)_
at present may not be under the complete physical occupation of the
West, but it is under a kind of spiritual occupation: "in Sunni terms,
_Dar al-Islam_ has returned to a state of _jahiliyya_ (pre-Islamic
darkness) even worse than the one that preceded the appearance of the
Prophet Muhammad in Arabia."[14] This perspective has been associated
with two of bin Laden's militant Egyptian associates, the Egyptian
Islamic Jihad and al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya.[15]
The response of militant Islam to this situation is to seek the
overthrow of pro-Western regimes in the Islamic world and to campaign
for the elimination of Western power and influence from the Middle
East entirely. In the seventh century, the first Islamic state arose
on the ruins of the two great empires of that era: the Byzantine
Empire and the Persian Empire. With the collapse of the Soviet Union,
defeat of the U.S. becomes the next logical struggle. It is not
surprising that the handwritten document of terrorist ringleader
Muhammad Atta states: "Remember the battle of the Prophet...against
the infidels, as he went on building the Islamic state."[16] _Thus,
the organizing principle of militant Islam is anti-Americanism; a
pro-Western regime that is anti-Israel in orientation still remains a
target of militant Islam._
The Organizational Priorities of the Bin Laden Network
An examination of bin Laden's organizational network further reveals
that the issue of Israel is not a top priority or focus for his brand
of militant Islam. The U.S. Department of State's _Patterns of Global
Terrorism -- 2000_ identifies Sunni Islamic extremist groups that have
been linked to Osama bin Laden's worldwide network: the Egyptian
Islamic Jihad, Egypt's al-Gama'at al-Islamiyya, the Islamic Movement
of Uzbekistan, and the Harakat ul-Mujahidin, a Pakistan-based group
operating against India in Kashmir. The Islamic Renaissance Party
received support in late 1996 from "militant Arab Afghans" in
Afghanistan as it trained for cross-border attacks on Tajikistan.[17]
Bin Laden's organization also became involved in the Tajikistan
struggle.[18] Additionally, bin Laden's network is known to reach
Albania, the Philippines, Chechnya, Indonesia, India, Jordan, Lebanon,
the former Yugoslavia, Sudan, and Yemen.
Looking at bin Laden's organizational network, a number of concerns
are evident. _First,_ bin Laden is continuing his struggle against
Russia, even after the defeat of the Soviet Union in Afghanistan.
This involves, as noted above, continued support for already existing
Islamic movements in the independent Central Asian states of the
former Soviet Union. It also entails backing movements that are
seeking to dismember parts of Russia itself, beyond the obvious case
of Chechnya, in the Northern Caucasus. Daghestan, which commands 70
percent of Russia's coast on the oil-rich Caspian Sea, faced a threat
>from radical Islamists in 1999.[19]
Many commentators see Saudi-exported Wahhabism as one of the principal
causes of militant Islamic fundamentalism in southern Russia. Thus,
Hajj Salih Brandt, the Chechen government's Special Envoy to Europe,
claimed: "[T]he whole political agenda of Wahabbi Fundamentalism (what
the West now calls Islamism)...is a deviation of Islam taught in
Madinah University in Saudi Arabia, sponsored by the Saudi government
and exported from there....Out of it have come Hamas, the Taliban,
Usama Bin Laden, the FIS, Sudan, and now the gangs roaming Chechnya
and Daghestan."[20]
Consistent with his ideological position, a _second_ concern of bin
Laden's organization involves directing efforts against the U.S.,
particularly against the American presence _in and around the Arabian
peninsula._ There is no clear connection between bin Laden and attacks
against Americans on Saudi territory in 1995 and 1996, which appear to
have been the responsibility of Shi'ite organizations like Saudi
Hizballah. However, bin Laden has penetrated Egypt, Sudan, and Yemen,
which control the Red Sea approaches to the Arabian peninsula, as well
as Jordan, which borders Saudi Arabia from the north. In this
context, he has been supportive of the overthrow of pro-American
regimes. A _third_ concern for bin Laden is a focus on achieving
Muslim independence in multi-ethnic states, like the case of Kashmir
in India. Israel and the Palestinians are simply dwarfed by these
other areas of concern and activity.
In fact, Reuven Paz of the Herzliya International Policy Institute for
Counter Terrorism has noted that the bin Laden network has _not_
connected with militant Islamic movements in the West Bank and Gaza
Strip, despite its mobilization of Palestinians from Lebanon and
Jordan over the last decade.[21] The U.S. Department of State noted
only one case of a militant, Nabil Awkil, connected to _both_ Hamas
and Osama bin Laden. Very few other cases have been identified.[22]
The head of Israeli Military Intelligence, Major General Amos Malka,
has stated that two attempts by the bin Laden organization to
penetrate into Israel were prevented.[23]
True, a Palestinian figure from Jordan, Dr. Abdallah Azzam, played a
major role in the formative years of bin Laden's organization until he
was killed in 1989 by a car bomb in Peshawar, Pakistan. However,
Azzam did not focus on the Palestinian issue but rather stressed
Afghanistan's troubles exclusively.[24] In fact, there have been
reports that bin Laden has been criticized for his indifference to the
Palestinian question.[25] Hisham Melhem, the Washington bureau chief
of the Lebanese daily _as-Safir,_ stated on CNN: "He [bin Laden] never
served the Palestinian cause. He never did anything to help the
Palestinian people. His focus was on Afghanistan and on Chechnya.
Never cared for the Palestinian cause."[26]
If the Palestinian issue were a high priority for bin Laden, then
efforts to mobilize Palestinian militants and establish a widespread
presence in the territories would have been far more extensive.
Instead, the bin Laden network largely reflects the concerns of an
Afghan-based organization with strong links to Pakistan; hence, its
involvement in the Indian subcontinent, the former Muslim republics of
the Soviet Union, and strategic points around the Arabian peninsula,
especially Yemen.
The Supportive Media Environment in Arab States
One of the surprising aspects of the September attack on the U.S. is
the role of nationals who come from states that are thought to be
friendly to the U.S.: Egypt, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE. Evidently, bin
Laden's anti-Americanism has considerable resonance in the
government-controlled media of much of the Arab world. Even Egypt's
official media have contributed to this environment. Thus, a
columnist in the state-controlled _Al-Akhbar_ wrote in August 2001:
"The conflict that we call the Arab-Israeli conflict is, in truth, an
Arab conflict with Western, particularly American, colonialism....The
U.S. treats the [Arabs] as it treated the slaves inside the American
continent....The issue no longer concerns the Israeli-Arab conflict.
The real issue is the Arab-American conflict."[27] Writing less than
a month before the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon,
the columnist stated that "The Statue of Liberty, in New York Harbor,
must be destroyed." Unfortunately, this sort of anti-Americanism is
not uncommon in the Egyptian press.
Often, Arab states with close relations to the U.S. permit media
outlets that spread violent anti-Americanism. Qatar's al-Jazeera
satellite network, that broadcasts to the entire Arab world, carried a
speech on May 23, 2001, by the Mufti of the Palestinian Liberation
Army which praised the attack on the USS Cole in Yemen: "My blessings
to those who carried out the [USS] Cole operation."[28]
Israel and the Quest for a Coalition
There will be those who might accept the argument that the Israel
issue is not at the core of the current anti-American rage, but
nonetheless they would argue that Israeli-Palestinian diplomatic
progress is necessary to assure the preservation of the anti-terrorism
coalition. Yet this assumption needs careful reexamination as well.
The 1990-91 Gulf War coalition against Iraq was established in the
total absence of an Arab-Israeli peace process. The Madrid Peace
Conference _followed_ the coalition victory against Saddam Hussein.
Moreover, after the war, the coalition began to disintegrate even as
the peace process appeared to be succeeding. For example, in the fall
of 1994 after the Oslo Agreement and the Israel-Jordan Peace Treaty,
the coalition did not hold together when Saddam Hussein massed armored
units on the Kuwaiti border (the U.S. and Kuwait acted alone).
Two factors provided the glue to tie the original Gulf War coalition
together: a perceived mutual threat among the coalition members, and
the consensus of the five permanent members of the UN Security
Council. The Arab world did not want to be in a position of defying
what it had always called the main source of international legitimacy
-- the UN. Today, with Russia and China supporting the U.S.
anti-terrorism effort along with Great Britain and France, the U.S.
could assure itself of Arab support by gaining prior approval of a
concert of great powers.
The Real Issue: Anti-American Incitement
Placing Israel and the Palestinian issue in the spotlight of the
current anti-Americanism motivating the militant Islamic groups
connected with Osama bin Laden is simply wrong. It can also lead to a
misplaced emphasis in current U.S. policy options toward the Middle
East. Political pressure on Israel to make concessions under
present-day Palestinian violence could easily compromise Israeli
security, but would not address either the _primary_ or even
_secondary_ reasons behind the rage of militant Islam toward America.
In order to address the hostile environment toward the U.S. in parts
of the Arab world today, anti-American incitement in
government-controlled media should be examined. Eliminating terrorism
requires not only purely military measures, but also diplomatic moves
aimed at making sure that there is no fertile ground for mobilizing
more militant operations. While press freedoms are to be respected,
systematic anti-American incitement of whole populations must cease in
order to create an environment that is not supportive of future
attacks against the U.S. and its citizens. If these governments
already selectively censor criticism of their own regimes in their
state-controlled media outlets, then they can also take measures
against the spread of anti-Americanism through these same official
organs.
* * *
Notes
1. _Newsweek_ website, October 6, 2001,
http://www.msnbc.com/news/639000.asp?cp1=1 .
2. Caryl Murphy, _Washington Post,_ September 16, 2001.
3. _Salon Magazine,_ September 17, 2001.
4. Interview with Peter Jennings, ABC television, September 13, 2001.
5. _New York Times,_ September 26, 2001.
6. _Jerusalem Post,_ September 25, 2001.
7. CNN, Larry King Live, October 1, 2001.
8. CNN website:
http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/07/ret.binladen.transcript
.
9. _Al-Quds Al-Arabi,_ February 23, 1998, www.ict.org.il.
10. _The Independent,_ August 23, 1998.
11. Bernard Lewis, "License to Kill: Usama bin-Ladin's Declaration of
Jihad," _Foreign Affairs,_ 77:6 (November/December1998):14-19.
12. Interview with ABC News Correspondent John Miller, May 28, 1998.
13. Anton La Guardia, "Saudi Arabia: Why Most Important Arab Ally is
Dithering," _Daily Telegraph_ (UK), October 3, 2001;
news.telegraph.co.uk. Olivier Roy has also noted:
During the last year, [Taliban] Mullah Omar has become more and
more isolated. He has not met with the Taliban government in Kabul,
preferring to seclude himself in Kandahar and rule through a small
inner circle of local clerics and foreign radicals, whose leading
figure is Mr. bin Laden.
Many decisions taken in 2000 and 2001 bear the mark of that
puritan influence: destroying the Buddhist statues in Bamiyan,
requiring non-Muslims to wear insignia and arresting foreign
humanitarian workers for Christian proselytizing. The growing
influence of "Wahhabis," as they are called in the region --
meaning that their concept of religion is based on the puritanism
of official Saudi Islam -- has created a nationalist backlash among
many Afghans.
Olivier Roy, "Afghanistan After the Taliban," _New York Times,_
October 7, 2001.
14. Emanuel Sivan, _Radical Islam: Medieval Theology and Modern
Politics_ (New Haven: Yale University Press), 1985, p. 183.
15. Da'a Rashwan, "Islamism in Transition," _Al-Ahram Weekly,_ March
11-17, 1999, Issue No. 420.
16. _Washington Post,_ September 28, 2001.
17. Olivier Roy, _The Foreign Policy of the Central Asian Islamic
Party_ (New York: Council on Foreign Relations, 1997), p. 19.
18. Walter Pincus, "Bin Laden Seeks Instability," _Washington Post,_
September 30, 2001.
19. Rajan Menon and Graham Fuller, "Russia's Ruinous Chechen War,"
_Foreign Affairs,_ 79:2 (March/April 2000).
20. Hajj Salih Brandt, "Does the West Really Want to Stop this War?,"
_Islamische Zeitung -- International._
Additionally, according to Russian General Prosecutor Vladimir
Ustinov, there are 1,500 Islamic religious organizations in the
Trans-Volga federal district. "With direct and indirect support from
abroad, Wahabbis -- the most radical Muslims -- are gradually
expanding their sphere of influence in these organizations." From "The
Wahabbis Reach the Volga," _Vek,_ July 13, 2001, p. 3 -- WPS Russian
Media Monitoring Agency, No. 165, July 16, 2001.
Furthermore, Deputy Minister of National Security of the
Azerbaijan Republic Tofik Babaev maintains that "Over the last years
300 citizens of Azerbaijan had training in the 'Wahabbist' centers in
Daghestan." Kavkaz-Center News Agency, May 3, 2001, www.kavkaz.org.
21. Reuven Paz, "Palestinian Participation in the Global Islamist
Network," International Policy Institute for Counter Terrorism,
Herzliya, April 24, 2000, www.ict.org.il.
22. Amos Harel, "Bin Laden's Palestinian Connection," _Ha'aretz,
_September 24, 2001.
23. Semadar Peri and Alex Fishman, "A Special Interview with the Head
of the Intelligence Branch," _Yediot Ahronot,_ September 26, 2001.
24. Robert D. McFadden, "Bin Laden's Journey from Rich Pious Lad to
the Mask of Evil," _New York Times, _September 30, 2001.
25. Noted by the editor of _Al-Quds al-Arabi,_ as cited in _The New
Republic,_ October 1, 2001.
26. CNN, October 8, 2001.
27. MEMRI, Analysis No. 71.
28. "Anti-American Statements in the Arabic Media," MEMRI.
* * *
Dore Gold is President of the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs.
Previously, he served as Israel's Ambassador to the United Nations
(1997-1999).
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by the Jerusalem Center for Public Affairs, 13 Tel-Hai St., Jerusalem,
Israel; Tel. 972-2-5619281, Fax. 972-2-5619112, Internet:
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Except for the fact that they were all subsequently deported.
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don't let it bother me. I don't let it bother me for one simple
reason. No one has _ever_ had a fantasy about being tied to a
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ChabadRainbow
letting Hashem work with us and through us. That's where it is Susan. That's
the whole gestalt of Light right there. Amalek and the erev rav will just
fall away like dust to the wind with Hashem leading us in battle.
Blessings of Love,
Yechidah
"Susan Cohen" <fla...@his.com> wrote in message
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Susan Cohen
>
> All the Jews on this board do is call names..
> > Keep on thinking that, little boy.
>
> ...and you keep proving it you fuckin nut
I love it. What a HYPOCRITE!!!
Not only a name-caller as he pretends to despise, but a foul-mouthed one at
that.
Susan
Susan Cohen
"RefugeeDeveloper" <refugeed...@yahoo.co.in> wrote in message
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> the palestinians may take part in terrorist operations. the israelis
> have stolen land.
No, not at all.
>
> its pathetic how anyone from paris or california with a nice life can
> just pack his bags and go to some Jerusalem flat while the rightfull
> owners are living in camps miles to the east. also illegal.
Not at all, because they are not the rightful owners.
>
> justifying evil is a bit difficult, even if you have money.
So why are you trying to do it?
Susan
Susan Cohen
"AnonMoos" <anon...@io.com> wrote in message
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> eric shinerman <ericsh...@softhome.net> wrote:
>
> > No Israel, No 9/11
>
> Hey Shiney-baby, you seem to have gullibly fallen for Osama bin
> Ladin's lies
Actually, OBL didn't really rate Israel high on his list of issues.
But you got the rest 110% correct.
Susan
J Winkler
"On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
Palestinians were dancing in the streets."
Now via whom did that "information" come?! And not exactly everything
that came out of Israeli leaders' mouths reflected mindfulness that
the world's ears/eyes were on them.
Deborah Sharavi
>I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
You're also proud, Teds, to be a lying jackass.
Deborah
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William A. Levinson
abu ishrak wrote:
> Offtopic newsflash:
> Just saw Bush and Bliar's press conference. They look like deer caught
> in the headlights. May they rot in hell. May Bush be sodomized in
> federal prison.
> Bob Graham is suggesting impeachment.
Saddam Hussein sympathizers, their fellow travellers, dupes, and
stooges. Now I see where you're coming from.
>
> Re: "urban legends"
> Laziness and stupidity can make you a Zionist. You are warned.
>
> "They are said
by whom, Osama bin Laden? Yassir Arafat?
What is wrong with filming the smoking skyline? I'm sure a lot of people
took pictures, perhaps in the hope of getting a Pulitzer Prize, or
simply to record the disaster for posterity. I'd have taken pictures
myself if I wasn't in a position to do something more constructive, like
try to help survivors.
William A. Levinson
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 07:07:09 -0400, "Ed" <nes...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>>"William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in message
>>news:3F1774BD...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com...
>>
>>>
>>>eric shinerman wrote:
>>>
>>>>James wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
>>>>>Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Five Israelis Arrested For Dancing In the Streets of New York on 9/11"
>>>
>>>Your reference for this, or did you just make it up? I thought as much.
>>
>>His reference, presumably, is that pic of a white van taken from around 300
>>yards away that allegedly had the 5 Israelis inside of it. Nothing else. I
>>remember seeing that website and thinking it proved absolutely nothing.
>>
>>The whole story of "Five Israelis Arrested for Dancing In The Streets of New
>>York on 9/11" is rapidly approaching the status of "urban legend."
>
>
> Except for the fact that they were all subsequently deported.
Remember Winston Smith from the "Ministry of Truth" in 1984, and his
assignment of inventing heroes for his government? I suspect that these
five never existed until you people invented them.
William A. Levinson
abu ishrak wrote:
> William A. Levinson wrote:
>
>>Theodore Herzl wrote:
>>
>>>I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>>>
>>>The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
>>>was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
>>>citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
>>>several reasons.
>>>
>>>1. The Jewish state of Israel is
>>
>
> the only democracy in the world with 50% of its citizens locked in their
> houses.
You have to lock your doors when thieves, murderers, rapists, ragheads,
and other criminals are in the neighborhood. And keep your shotgun handy.
William A. Levinson
Staticenz wrote:
> All the Jews on this board do is call names..
>
>>Keep on thinking that, little boy.
>
>
> ...and you keep proving it you fuckin nut
>
>
>>>You act like little children-
>>>How is it that a person is an idiot because of his opinion?
>>>Explain that to me....
>>
>>The JOOOZ control everything! ZOG (Zionist Occupied Government) is
>>everywhere! Yes, you do sound like an idiot.
>
>
> You are trying to pile me into a stereotype. You think that anyone who has
> an ill word about the Jews or their possible motivation and/or influence wants
> them all dead. I don't recall saying (or even implying) the above.
I didn't say it either. You did suggest that Jews did "something" that
makes "everyone" hate them.
[old stuff deleted]
>>All right, which Arab/ white supremacist stock propaganda are you
>>quoting? I've seen this, or variants of it, elsewhere.
>
>
> This is no quote. If you've heard it elsewhere this just further proves my
> point. I don't get into reading other peoples garbage. I formulate my own opinions, through
> my own experiences. And, (as if it were of some relevance) I am not Arab, nor do I
> belong to any WS group. The first is way off the mark. Im about as white-bread as they get. All
> American, (Sicilian-American) Wife, kids, dog...ect. The latter is a group of angry, foolish youth. Im
> just a man with astute powers of observation. I don't HATE the Jew. I don't HATE any group
> of people. Rather, I question the motive of a group that see's itself as separate from
> Americans.
I consider myself an American above all, which means I'm on the side of
the democracy (Taiwan as well as Israel) as opposed to the raghead
shiekdom, kingdom, or dictatorship.
> I'm not saying that Jews are trying to control the world. I'm saying that Zionist Jews run
> today's media. It's fact, look it up.
>
> Do some reading before you come here and spew your insults and lies.
The JOOOOZ control the media! I bet you take the recent James Bond movie
about an evil media mogul (he HAS to be a JOOOOO, right?) as fact.
> I don't have the time nor the energy to respond to the rest of your drivel,
> but I hit the important stuff.
>
> BTW.
> I have no affiliation with the M&M's or whomever you were slamming.
The Million Mom March is an anti-Second Amendment organization (and
political front for Hillary Clinton) that has nothing to do with
ragheads, except making it easier for them (indirectly) to kill
Americans. Or it's more like, the Million Mom March WAS an anti-Second
Amendment organization. Now they're not much of anything. And your
friends at Oxfam Solidarity may be next.
>>Unlike you, I don't need to slither around in holes and I never have. I
>>can keep the field against any political enemy because I am always the
>>better man.
>
> > > Internet's a bitch aint it?
>
>>For your raghead friends, yes. Electronic Intifada, meet the electronic
>>Omdurman! (1898, defeat of the Mahdists by Kitchener. Winston Churchill
>>rides in England's last effective cavalry charge.)
>>Crawl back into your hole, boy, and come back when you have a real name.
>
>
> I have no hole. I have rag friends yes. I also have Jew friends (whom I
> believe would stab me in the back given the chance)
Yes, "Some of my best friends are JOOOOZ even though they would stab me
in the back given a chance." You aren't even subtle, Boy.
I have friends of every nationality. White, Black,
> Laotian...ect.
> What's your point.
>
> And, I have a real name. It's called
soc.culture.israel's newest village idiot. We will have some fun with you.
William A. Levinson
ChabadRainbow wrote:
> Let's just forget about them and fortify ourselves with Ruach Hakodesh -
> letting Hashem work with us and through us. That's where it is Susan. That's
> the whole gestalt of Light right there. Amalek and the erev rav will just
> fall away like dust to the wind with Hashem leading us in battle.
>
> Blessings of Love,
> Yechidah
I disagree. Evil will not fall away by itself, it must be exposed and
destroyed. The mistake of Germany's Jews was to hope Hitler & Co. would
go away by themselves. By the time they realized that the Nazis were
there to stay, the Nazis were too powerful to stop. The result was six
million dead Jews plus tens of millions of dead Gentile Europeans.
If you look at modern Pallie propaganda (see my page,
http://www.omdurman.org/crucify.html for an example, "Crucified
Palestine"), they are using Nazi-style propaganda: Jews with hooked
noses bathing in the blood of "Crucified Palestine."
Per Lord Clifford in King Henry VI, part 3, "I will not bandy with thee
word for word, but buckle with thee blows, twice two for one." So
http://www.omdurman.org/crucify.html and
http://www.omdurman.org/leaflets/c_killer.html are repayment, with an
enormity of interest, for "Crucified Palestine." (And they still think
Jews CHARGE interest!) They really should not have gone anywhere near
that crucifixion image, especially since some "Muslim" countries still
crucify people, and plenty can be done with that from the propaganda end.
Staticenz
> > > Keep on thinking that, little boy.
> > ...and you keep proving it you fuckin nut
> I love it. What a HYPOCRITE!!!
> Not only a name-caller as he pretends to despise, but a foul-mouthed one
at
> that.
Out of that entire post, that's all you got out of it? That I'm a
foul-mouthed hypocrite? To see hypocrisy you need not go further than the
second line. Ahh.... but as usual you look beyond you and your people's
shortcomings and proceed to point fingers. Are you blind? Is your reading
comprehension not up to par?
As for my response, I say fight fire with fire. I was not the first to
start name calling, but as you can see, I can play that game too (as can any
2nd grader). I prefer to have intelligent discussion. I would even welcome
any Jew to persuade me to see the ere of my ways. However you and I both
know that wont happen, don't we?
Look, if you don't like my point of view, come back with a reason why I
shouldn't feel the way I do. Don't come at me with pathetic and childish
insults. If you cannot add anything constructive, go eat a sandwich, watch
TV or play your Nintendo; this communications medium is too complex for you.
JGB
> William A. Levinson wrote:
> >
> > eric shinerman wrote:
> > > James wrote:
>
> > If Israel stops fighting the sand Nazis, we will find out too. Come to
> > think of it, we found out anyway, on 9/11.
>
> No, that's like saying the 1973 counterattack was an Arab attack.
> When you proxy war people, they justifiably get pissed.<
SO, what did the UN do to the Arabs who attacked Israel in 1948, give
them a pat on the back with a heartfelt "better luck next time?"
> > And Europe found out in 1683
>
> those were Turks, not arabs<
Yeah, they didn't use suicide bombers.
> > why the Byzantines were fighting the Ottoman Empire in 1453.>
> the byzantines weren't fighting. they were marching around the city with
> candles asking the Mother of God to save them with lightning. Read your
> Gibbon, son. You of all people should know what happens if you expect
> "God" to save you.<
That's cause the Crusaders had already basically done them in.
> > > In 2001, Palestinians received Hellfire missiles, Caterpillar armored
> > > bulldozers, and US bombs dropped from US F16s.
> >
> > 'Tis better to give than to receive.
>
> Don't you mean "tis better to steal than to buy??"<<
Easy to buy when you have Americans discovering and pumping up
"black gold" from under their feet. But I'll agree, that peace will come
when BOTH semitic races have to actually work for their living. Then
they'll both be too poor and tired to fight.
> > > Israelis are always dancing in the streets. US taxpayers are paying for
> > > the band. Palestinians rarely have a reason to celebrate.
> > > We are conducting a vicious proxy war against a people whose only crime
> > > is
> >
> > killing Olympic athletes, school shootings (Ma'alot), blowing up Seders,
> > buses, stores, and dance halls, and ongoing murder of women and
> > children.
>
> Everything you cited happened after the 1967 land grab.<
Which happened after the '48 land grab, which happened after the 1917
land grab, which happened after the Moses and Joshua land grab, ad infinitum.
> The aggressor condemns the resistance of its victims, what else is new?
> Hooligans, saboteurs and counterrevolutionaries, right?
> Tewwowwists.
> Shit happens in wars. Besides, the Jews taught them how to do it, innit?<
Actually, the Arabs needed no lessons from Jews. Besides Haj Amin El Husseini,
the had the 'great Mother of all terrorists" Muhammad himself.
Staticenz
> soc.culture.israel's newest village idiot. We will have some fun with you.
Will you now?
Let me correct you if I may. You will bombard me with insults meant to
humiliate me, then when I expose your childish strategy of flaming, you will
undoubtedly come back with some witty retort.
But here's the kicker,
you cant get under my skin by calling me names and acting foolish... because
I have one thing you don't- FACTS
How about some statistics backing up my claims that Jews are a dangerous
position of influence in the US? Sounds good to me.........
Notice the more popular outlets below.....
a.. Commentary; masthead: 29 names, 100% Jews. June '02. "its general
program to enlighten and clarify public opinion on problems of Jewish
concern, to fight bigotry and protect human rights, and to promote Jewish
cultural interest and creative achievement in America. " Sponsored by the
American Jewish Committee, and is touted as a neoconservative publication.
The masthead was used as the source.
a.. Tikkun; masthead: 76 names, 91% Jews May/June '02. " A bimonthy Jewish
Critique of Politics, Culture and Society."
a.. Forward; masthead+columnists: 17 names, 65% Jews. A Jewish Newspaper,
taken from May 31, '02 issue.
a.. The National Interest; NeoConservative journal of international affairs.
Of 22 editors and staff, 73% are Jews.
a.. Dissent; editorial board: 41 names, 42% Jews. A quarterly journal of
politics and culture from the left.
a.. Front Page; David Horowitz's neoconservative magazine; pundits: 36
names, 31% Jews
a.. The Nation; Masthead: 79 names, 33% Jews. A weekly of political writing.
a.. Parade Magazine; masthead: 38 names, 42% Jews. April '02. The newspaper
magazine insert in more than 330 newspapers nationwide. Circulation is huge,
at almost 36 million per week. Masthead was taken from a print edition.
a.. New Republic;; masthead: 81 names, 51% Jews. May '02. "The New Republic
is home to award-winning writers and critics in many fields and from most
political viewpoints. The editorial masthead is a veritable who's who of
political and cultural journalism."
a.. Salon; masthead: 53 names, 43% Jews; The online e-zine owned by
Microsoft.
a.. The NY Times; masthead: 26 names, 35% Jews. May, '02. The NY Times is
probably the most important newspaper in America today. "The newspaper of
record." "The New York Times Company is a leading media company with 2000
revenues of $3.5 billion, publishes The New York Times, The Boston Globe and
16 other newspapers; owns eight network-affiliated television stations and
two New York radio stations; and has more than 40 Web sites"
a.. The NY Times; reporters: 100 names, 48 % Jews. From their electronic
archives and copied the bylines of randomly chosen news articles (no sports)
from the last couple of weeks (May '02).
a.. Newsweek; writers,editors, columnists: 101 names, 32% Jews. May '02.
"Newsweek offers comprehensive coverage of world events with a global
network of more than 60 correspondents." Circulation is about 4 million
weekly. Owned by the Washington Post Co. The writers, editors list is taken
from here, and the columnists from here.
a.. The Wall Street Journal; masthead: 35 names, 34% Jews,. June '02.
Published by Dow Jones and Company. Premier newspaper concentrating on
financial news.
a.. The Washington Post; Columnists: 61 names, 31% Jews. " May, '02. The
Washington Post newspaper is an operating division of The Washington Post
Company. The Company is a diversified media company whose principal
operations include newspaper and magazine publishing, television
broadcasting, cable television systems, electronic information services,
test preparation and educational and career services." columnists only were
used.
a.. Pulitzer Prize Winners These awards in journalism for 1997 to 2001 show
that of 93 names, 32% are Jewish.
a.. Town Hall; columnists: 48 names. Sept. '02. "Town Hall is the first
truly interactive community on the Internet to bring Internet users,
conservative public policy organizations, congressional staff, and political
activists together under the broad umbrella of "conservative" thoughts,
ideas and actions." 34% Jews.
a.. The Weekly Standard; masthead: 48 names. Sept. '02. A neoconservative
magazine, edited by William Kristol*, 29% Jews
a.. US News and World Report; Editorial Management: 25 names, 24% Jews. A
weekly national news magazine, circulation 2 million, owned by Mortimer
Zuckerman*. The "editorial management" list was used.
a.. Village Voice Media; editiors, staff writers, contributors as 71 names,
24% Jews. One of the two largest "alternative" weekly newspapers, owns
Village Voice, Seattle Weekly, City Pages in Minneapolis, etc. Revenues of
100 million dollars.
a.. National Review Online; All authors: 58 names, 24% Jews. Bill Buckley's
(a Catholic) rag. Used all authors list on April 14, 2003.
a.. The Atlantic magazine; masthead: 102 names, 20% Jews.A leading monthy
magazine with essays, book reviews, fiction. I copied the masthead from the
magazine for June, '02.
a.. Time Magazine; masthead: 103 names, 6% Jews. A weekly newsmagazine. I
copied the names from the printed magazine, June 3, 2002, from the top of
the page down to the "contributors" heading, then president down to public
affairs director.
a.. NewTimes Inc.; masthead: 41 names, 7% Jews. One of the two largest
"alternative" weekly newspapers. Papers in Dallas, Phoenix, Los Angeles,
etc. Also has revenues of about 100 million dollars.
a.. Deseret News (Utah) staff, 57 names, 1.8% Jews, 1 known. May '02. I used
this one as a control test of Hoozajew. Expect zero Jews on this newspaper.
This 150 year old newspaper is Utah's largest, and is nearly an organ of the
Latter Day Saints. Columnists and management were used.
Yah.. I'm going to show you how much fun I can be alright......
JGB
ChabadRainbow
and we as people, humans, Jews, Christians and Muslims should understand
that unless we learn from our past, we are bound to repeat history in the
future. Destruction need not be our destination. Again, the choice is within
our own hands.
Words can build worlds of holiness, peace and Wisdom, or they can destroy
people, environment and souls. Needless to say, many of us have been privvy
to this in our own lives.
Please take heed and stop the destruction.
May we have a Peaceful Sabbath.
Blessings,
Yechidah
"Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
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ChabadRainbow
Blessing All of Israel - Wherever we may be - For a Shabbat Shalom!
ChabadRainbow
are: Hashem's children.
Our G-D told us: Keep my covenants, statutes and laws - and I will protect
you from your enemies!
What more do I need?
They will crumble, they will stumble, they will be weakened, they will die a
slow, painful, horrendous death. Their name will be wiped from the Book of
Life.
Why worry?
Let us keep strong, fortified and healthy with positivity and endearments to
He who has created us, to the Land and to each other!
Am Yisrael Chai - amen, ve-amen, ve-amen.
Blessings,
Yechidah
"William A. Levinson" <wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote in message
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BOEDICIA
>From: "William A. Levinson" wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com
>Date: 7/18/03 10:01 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <3F1827EE...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com>
>You have to lock your doors when thieves, murderers, rapists, ragheads,
>and other criminals are in the neighborhood. And keep your shotgun handy.
I agree, now tell all those Harvaaaaaard jew lawyers in the ACLU as they rush
in to defend all these thieves, murderers rapists because to find them guilty
and even, God forbid execute, them is "racist".
Theodore Herzl
> news:3a44d57.03071...@posting.google.com...
> > I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
> >
> > was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
> > citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
> > several reasons.
> >
> > regime whose record of human rights violations is threatened by no
> > one. In today's world, if your pro-Israel you are not supporting
> > Judaism or Jews, you are supporting a Zionist regime that has violated
> > nearly every law of common decency every written by man or G-d.
> >
> > 2. Anti-Semitism is generally defined as "hostility toward or
> > discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group"
> > and does not include ones opposition to the Israeli regime or the evil
> > doctrine of Zionism. Zionist's have long attempted to associate
> > their greedy lust for land with Judaism and/or the Jewish people to
> > try to dissuade criticism of their rape, murder and plundering in
> > Palestine. Jews need not be Zionists and most Zionists are atheists
> > anyway so to even connect Zionism with Judaism is morally wrong in
> > itself.
> >
> > 3. As many Jews are also not in support of the fascist Israeli
> > regime, the Zionist's call them "self hating Jews" as the normal
> > anti-Semitic label cannot be used to dissuade them from speaking out
> > against Zionism. If a Jew who opposes Zionism and the policies of
> > the Israeli regime can handle being called self-hating Jews, I think
> > the rest of us can help them by wearing our anti-Semitic label proudly
> > in support of these brave Jews.
> >
> > As you can see, being anti-Semitic is not a bad thing anymore. The
> > term was hijacked by the Zionist's via their repeated attempts to
> > cover their tracks by using lies, propaganda, bribery, political
> > correctness, fear and other fascist techniques to squelch opposition.
> > So wear your label proudly and tell the Zionist's to go to hell.
>
> And you sir are a complete idiot. You are probably proud of that too.
Thank you very much. Coming from you, I'll take that as a
compliment. I'm often called when local villages loose their idiot,
so I'm used to that type of praise. Even being a complete Idiot,
however, I am still smart enough to recognize Zionism for what it is,
a violent selfish campaign to aquire land cheaply by using terrorism
and a self granted privilage over the previous inhabitants. You
being so smart, must have already recognized this but chose to ignore
it in order to persue you own plunder for financial gains in the
region. So while I may be an idiot, you're a greedy asshole and I can
live with that.
BOEDICIA
>Message-id: <3F182717...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com>
>Remember Winston Smith from the "Ministry of Truth" in 1984, and his
>assignment of inventing heroes for his government? I suspect that these
>five never existed until you people invented them.
I suspect that every time you read something that puts jews in a bad light, you
do the usual knee jerk and cry
"forgery". I bet you even think that The Rosenbergs were framed, don't you.
"The Protocols of the Elders of Zion".
FORGERY !! FORGERY !!
See. Anybody can do it.
Susan Cohen
"J Winkler" <jjwi...@concentric.net> wrote in message
news:63a59489.03071...@posting.google.com...
> "James" <jme...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:<a0qdncLFRMU...@comcast.com>...
>
> "On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
> Palestinians were dancing in the streets."
>
> Now via whom did that "information" come?!
From the facts.
From anyone with eyes to see.
And not exactly everything
> that came out of Israeli leaders' mouths reflected mindfulness that
> the world's ears/eyes were on them.
Yeah, and....?
Susan
Larry R
"BOEDICIA" <boed...@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20030718155733...@mb-m21.aol.com...
Ed
>
> > soc.culture.israel's newest village idiot. We will have some fun with
you.
>
> Will you now?
>
> Let me correct you if I may. You will bombard me with insults meant to
> humiliate me, then when I expose your childish strategy of flaming, you
will
> undoubtedly come back with some witty retort.
>
> But here's the kicker,
> you cant get under my skin by calling me names and acting foolish...
because
> I have one thing you don't- FACTS
> How about some statistics backing up my claims that Jews are a dangerous
> position of influence in the US? Sounds good to me.........
>
> Notice the more popular outlets below.....
Sounds more like sour grapes to me, simply because the Jewish people who you
claim have a "dangerous" influence have EARNED their position through
educatiion, hard work and dedication. What can possibly be wrong with that?
Or is it just displaced hatred which would rightfully be directed against
yourself and your failures?
Theodore Herzl
> "Theodore Herzl" <AntiZ...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>
> You're also proud, Teds, to be a lying jackass.
>
> Deborah
Ok, my dimwitted foe, please explain how I can be lying when I'm
merely stating my own opinion. I understand, however, that having ones
own opinion must seem alien to someone like yourself who has been
brainwashed by Zionism, but I assure you that, unlike in Israel, we do
exist in the free societies.
*** Zionism = Fascism not Judaism ***
William A. Levinson
Staticenz wrote:
>>soc.culture.israel's newest village idiot. We will have some fun with you.
>
>
> Will you now?
>
> Let me correct you if I may. You will bombard me with insults meant to
> humiliate me,
That won't be necessary. The gawking slack-jawed village idiot stumbling
around the village is an object of ridicule without the need for any
name calling. Every so often, one of the townsfolk will trip him so he
falls face-first into a pile of **** for additional entertainment.
> then when I expose your childish strategy of flaming, you will
> undoubtedly come back with some witty retort.
>
> But here's the kicker,
> you cant get under my skin by calling me names and acting foolish... because
> I have one thing you don't- FACTS
Yes, sure you do, sonny.
> How about some statistics backing up my claims that Jews are a dangerous
> position of influence in the US? Sounds good to me.........
>
> Notice the more popular outlets below.....
>
>
> a.. Commentary; masthead: 29 names, 100% Jews. June '02. "its general
> program to enlighten and clarify public opinion on problems of Jewish
> concern, to fight bigotry and protect human rights, and to promote Jewish
> cultural interest and creative achievement in America. " Sponsored by the
> American Jewish Committee, and is touted as a neoconservative publication.
> The masthead was used as the source.
> a.. Tikkun; masthead: 76 names, 91% Jews May/June '02. " A bimonthy Jewish
> Critique of Politics, Culture and Society."
> a.. Forward; masthead+columnists: 17 names, 65% Jews. A Jewish Newspaper,
> taken from May 31, '02 issue.
Yes, since these are Jewish publications, their editorial staffs consist
mainly of Jews. I'm sure similar statistics could be developed
regarding, for example, Baptist or Mormon publications. DID YOU KNOW
THAT THE EDITORIAL STAFF OF THE "WATCHTOWER" CONSISTS ALMOST ENTIRELY OF
JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES? THE JWs ARE TAKING OVER THE COUNTRY!
> a.. The National Interest; NeoConservative journal of international affairs.
> Of 22 editors and staff, 73% are Jews.
> a.. Dissent; editorial board: 41 names, 42% Jews. A quarterly journal of
> politics and culture from the left.
> a.. Front Page; David Horowitz's neoconservative magazine; pundits: 36
> names, 31% Jews
Maybe I can get a job with Front Page, thanks for the lead. If you think
your raghead propagandist friends are badly-off now, just wait until I
get through with them.
> a.. The Nation; Masthead: 79 names, 33% Jews. A weekly of political writing.
> a.. Parade Magazine; masthead: 38 names, 42% Jews. April '02. The newspaper
> magazine insert in more than 330 newspapers nationwide. Circulation is huge,
> at almost 36 million per week. Masthead was taken from a print edition.
> a.. New Republic;; masthead: 81 names, 51% Jews. May '02. "The New Republic
> is home to award-winning writers and critics in many fields and from most
> political viewpoints. The editorial masthead is a veritable who's who of
> political and cultural journalism."
> a.. Salon; masthead: 53 names, 43% Jews; The online e-zine owned by
> Microsoft.
> a.. The NY Times; masthead: 26 names, 35% Jews. May, '02. The NY Times is
> probably the most important newspaper in America today. "The newspaper of
> record." "The New York Times Company is a leading media company with 2000
> revenues of $3.5 billion, publishes The New York Times, The Boston Globe and
> 16 other newspapers; owns eight network-affiliated television stations and
> two New York radio stations; and has more than 40 Web sites"
> a.. The NY Times; reporters: 100 names, 48 % Jews. From their electronic
> archives and copied the bylines of randomly chosen news articles (no sports)
> from the last couple of weeks (May '02).
Affirmative action is called for; I suppose they need to hire more
people like Jayson Blair. Seriously, though, since New York City has 3
million or so Jews, you'd expect a lot of Jews in the New York Times.
> a.. Newsweek; writers,editors, columnists: 101 names, 32% Jews. May '02.
> "Newsweek offers comprehensive coverage of world events with a global
> network of more than 60 correspondents." Circulation is about 4 million
> weekly. Owned by the Washington Post Co. The writers, editors list is taken
> from here, and the columnists from here.
> a.. The Wall Street Journal; masthead: 35 names, 34% Jews,. June '02.
> Published by Dow Jones and Company. Premier newspaper concentrating on
> financial news.
Also a New York publication. Your point?
Furthermore, Jews (like Asians) have a tradition of education, so we
tend to be college-educated, unlike your kind. A lot of us therefore end
up in professional occupations like journalism. I have, by the way,
published several books myself.
You are way out of your league, boy. I bother to answer you only because
I find you entertaining for the moment, like the other village idiots.
Susan Cohen
>
>
> Staticenz wrote:
> Im
> > just a man with astute powers of observation. I don't HATE the Jew. I
don't HATE any group
> > of people. Rather, I question the motive of a group that see's itself as
separate from
> > Americans.
So, IOW, the last sentence quoted here completely contradicts the first. How
astute.
>
> I consider myself an American above all, which means I'm on the side of
> the democracy (Taiwan as well as Israel) as opposed to the raghead
> shiekdom, kingdom, or dictatorship.
>
> > I'm not saying that Jews are trying to control the world. I'm saying
that Zionist Jews run
> > today's media. It's fact, look it up.
So much for astute.
> >
> > Do some reading before you come here and spew your insults and lies.
BWAHAHAHA!
>
> The JOOOOZ control the media! I bet you take the recent James Bond movie
> about an evil media mogul (he HAS to be a JOOOOO, right?) as fact.
>
> > I don't have the time nor the energy to respond to the rest of your
drivel,
> > but I hit the important stuff.
Translation: "duck & run!!!"
> >
[snip]
> >>Crawl back into your hole, boy, and come back when you have a real name.
> >
> >
> > I have no hole. I have rag friends yes. I also have Jew friends (whom I
> > believe would stab me in the back given the chance)
>
> Yes, "Some of my best friends are JOOOOZ even though they would stab me >
in the back given a chance." You aren't even subtle, Boy.
And he really expects people to believe this.
Susan
Theodore Herzl
> Praise Allah!
James Scot MacTavish
<fla...@his.com> wrote:
>Subject: Anti-Semites Are Hypocrites
You don't even know what a Semite is I bet!
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m7bgevgqkcve6k7of2o6oi8filg55jdaj8%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: JSOURCE Definition of Anti-Semitism & Example of a Pathological
Anti-Semite
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 03:15:50 -0500
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Get a clue will you?
Tavish
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Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support
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Date: 12 Jul 2003 14:16:47 GMT
---
>I ask-- why do we never see Jews criticize the communism
>which existed before Stalin took control?
"Because there was very little to criticize."
Susan Cohen - January 24, 2001
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Shabbat Shalom,
Yechidah
"Theodore Herzl" <AntiZ...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Susan Cohen
"Larry R" <fut...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
news:lGZRa.2155$tJ4.2...@read1.cgocable.net...
> You are in denial of Truth Bodick. Too bad.
Yes, everyone knows the Protocols are not a forgery, biut an out-&-out
fraud.
Susan
James Scot MacTavish
AntiZ...@hotmail.com (Theodore Herzl) wrote:
>I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>
>The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
>was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
>citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
>several reasons.
>
>1. The Jewish state of Israel is a fascist totalitarian apartheid
>regime whose record of human rights violations is threatened by no
>one. In today's world, if your pro-Israel you are not supporting
>Judaism or Jews, you are supporting a Zionist regime that has violated
>nearly every law of common decency every written by man or G-d.
>
>2. Anti-Semitism is generally defined as "hostility toward or
>discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group"
>and does not include ones opposition to the Israeli regime or the evil
>doctrine of Zionism. Zionist's have long attempted to associate
>their greedy lust for land with Judaism and/or the Jewish people to
>try to dissuade criticism of their rape, murder and plundering in
>Palestine. Jews need not be Zionists and most Zionists are atheists
>anyway so to even connect Zionism with Judaism is morally wrong in
>itself.
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=m7bgevgqkcve6k7of2o6oi8filg55jdaj8%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: JSOURCE Definition of Anti-Semitism & Example of a Pathological
Anti-Semite
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2003 03:15:50 -0500
Message-ID: <m7bgevgqkcve6k7of...@4ax.com>
>
>3. As many Jews are also not in support of the fascist Israeli
>regime, the Zionist's call them "self hating Jews" as the normal
>anti-Semitic label cannot be used to dissuade them from speaking out
>against Zionism. If a Jew who opposes Zionism and the policies of
>the Israeli regime can handle being called self-hating Jews, I think
>the rest of us can help them by wearing our anti-Semitic label proudly
>in support of these brave Jews.
>
>As you can see, being anti-Semitic is not a bad thing anymore. The
>term was hijacked by the Zionist's via their repeated attempts to
>cover their tracks by using lies, propaganda, bribery, political
>correctness, fear and other fascist techniques to squelch opposition.
>So wear your label proudly and tell the Zionist's to go to hell.
You are right on and you will find these archives most interesting:
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Subject: Palestine was Changed to a Socialist Jewish State in 1948 by Ben-Gurion
with Communist Soviet Union's Support
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Date: 12 Jul 2003 14:16:47 GMT
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=&selm=jpdecvg5bh8fbb2q9cq2ggmv61e6gb430f%404ax.com&rnum=1
Subject: Political Parties of Israel (Israel is a Communist Sympathizer Nation!)
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Date: 18 May 2003 07:27:35 GMT
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Subject: Most Top Ranking Third Reich NAZIS were JEWS! Look and Shake all Your
Heads in Disbelief!! R_0717
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Date: 17 Jul 2003 21:40:29 GMT
Tavish
JGB
> news:3a44d57.03071...@posting.google.com...
> >
> > The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
> > was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
> > citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
> > several reasons.
> >
> > 1. The Jewish state of Israel is a fascist totalitarian apartheid
> > regime whose record of human rights violations is threatened by no
> > one. <
Well, that's good to hear. SO when are they going to exterminate the
Arabush that are proliferating like locusts? I'd like to apply for a
job at a concentration camp.
>In today's world, if your pro-Israel you are not supporting
> > Judaism or Jews, you are supporting a Zionist regime that has violated
> > nearly every law of common decency every written by man or G-d.<<
They're not violating enough laws. That's the problem. IF they were,
the "Arab problem" would have been solved already.
> > 2. Anti-Semitism is generally defined as "hostility toward or
> > discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group"
> > and does not include ones opposition to the Israeli regime or the evil
> > doctrine of Zionism. Zionist's have long attempted to associate
> > their greedy lust for land with Judaism and/or the Jewish people to
> > try to dissuade criticism of their rape, murder and plundering in
> > Palestine. Jews need not be Zionists and most Zionists are atheists
> > anyway so to even connect Zionism with Judaism is morally wrong in
> > itself.<<
If land was all that the Jews were after, wouldn't they have stayed in
Russia where there's so much more of it? Obviously, it wasn't simply
some craving for land that was the motivation. It was the craving for
OUR LAND, JEWISH LAND, that was stolen and occupied by Arabs and others
who have so much of it in the "Arab world."
William A. Levinson
Theodore Herzl wrote:
> "Deborah Sharavi" <desh...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<f7ce6e1cb23f80ebe42...@mygate.mailgate.org>...
>
>>"Theodore Herzl" <AntiZ...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>>
>>You're also proud, Teds, to be a lying jackass.
>>
>>Deborah
>
>
> Ok, my dimwitted foe, please explain how I can be lying when I'm
> merely stating my own opinion.
All right, maybe you're not lying. Maybe you're just dirt-ignorant.
> I understand, however, that having ones own opinion
When the ragheads want your opinion, Dhimmi-boy, they'll give it to you.
> must seem alien to someone like yourself who has been
> brainwashed by Zionism, but I assure you that, unlike in Israel, we do
> exist in the free societies.
>
> *** Zionism = Fascism not Judaism ***
Militant "Islam" = fascism, not Islam.
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
<fla...@his.com> wrote:
>
>"Staticenz" <Stat...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:6%PRa.84993$hV.57...@twister.austin.rr.com...
>>
>> All the Jews on this board do is call names..
>> > Keep on thinking that, little boy.
>>
>> ...and you keep proving it you fuckin nut
>
>I love it. What a HYPOCRITE!!!
>Not only a name-caller as he pretends to despise, but a foul-mouthed one at
>that.
>
>Suzy
Speaking of hypocrites, Suzy, why do you keep making the same sort of
"sexual slurs" that you find so objectionable in others? And the
"foul-mouthed" comment coming from an obnoxious Irish fishwife is a
bit much.
--
"I have often been called a Nazi, and although it is unfair, I
don't let it bother me. I don't let it bother me for one simple
reason. No one has _ever_ had a fantasy about being tied to a
bed and sexually ravished by someone dressed as a liberal."
- P.J. O'Rourke (American author)
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
<fla...@his.com> wrote:
>
>"ChabadRainbow" <hea...@bestweb.net> wrote in message
>news:vherurf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> B"H
>>
>> It is good that the internet exists - using it for teaching, learning and
>> exchanging respect and honor.
>>
>So I will take this opportunity to say that I admire you very much.
>Me, I have a rotten temper.
Nothing that a good porking up the ass won't cure.
>When I see a Jew-hater, I usually give it right
>back in their faces - I like to let them know that we aren't going down
>easily ever again.
"We" never went down easily in the first place. You're Irish, you
dumb little shitska.
>But I also admire the serenity that allows you to just
>sail on by such creatures with grace & dignity.
>
>Suzy
He's just an asshole who's probably smoking something illegal.
Caiaphas
nations agression against the Arab population, and because most non-Jews believe
that most Jews support the Zionist actions by the Israeli government. So,
resurgence of anti-Semitism in these modern-day times is because of Israel.
"Theodore Herzl" <AntiZ...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a44d57.03071...@posting.google.com...
> I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>
> The term "anti-Semitic" at one time had a negative connotation that
> was seen as being a undesirable trait by those who strive to be good
> citizens of the world. Today, however, this is no longer the case for
> several reasons.
>
> 1. The Jewish state of Israel is a fascist totalitarian apartheid
> regime whose record of human rights violations is threatened by no
> one. In today's world, if your pro-Israel you are not supporting
> Judaism or Jews, you are supporting a Zionist regime that has violated
> nearly every law of common decency every written by man or G-d.
>
> 2. Anti-Semitism is generally defined as "hostility toward or
> discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group"
> and does not include ones opposition to the Israeli regime or the evil
> doctrine of Zionism. Zionist's have long attempted to associate
> their greedy lust for land with Judaism and/or the Jewish people to
> try to dissuade criticism of their rape, murder and plundering in
> Palestine. Jews need not be Zionists and most Zionists are atheists
> anyway so to even connect Zionism with Judaism is morally wrong in
> itself.
>
Richard Cranium
Tilly
> I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
I read this article and immediately thought of you and your ilk......
http://frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8972
Tilly
L Alpert
"Caiaphas" <Caiap...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:ZV8Sa.4$V_4...@eagle.america.net...
> I think the modern-day nation of Israel *causes * anti-Semitism because of
that
> nations agression against the Arab population, and because most non-Jews
believe
> that most Jews support the Zionist actions by the Israeli government. So,
> resurgence of anti-Semitism in these modern-day times is because of
Israel.
>
>
Actually, it is because of ignorance. The same as saying every muslim is a
terrorist.
William A. Levinson
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:14:48 -0400, "Suzy the convert"
> <fla...@his.com> wrote:
>
>
>>"ChabadRainbow" <hea...@bestweb.net> wrote in message
>>news:vherurf...@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>>B"H
>>>
>>>It is good that the internet exists - using it for teaching, learning and
>>>exchanging respect and honor.
>>>
>>
>>So I will take this opportunity to say that I admire you very much.
>>Me, I have a rotten temper.
>
>
> Nothing that a good porking up the ass won't cure.
Which is not something you could deliver to anybody, "LITTLE" boy.
Of course, your first inclination is anal sex as opposed to normal
heterosexual relations. That's probably because you, Blutkrieg, and
Swilljerk are into "sexual diversity." The fact that you consider Rachel
Weisz unattractive proves that you are a deviant and possibly a zoophile.
>
>>When I see a Jew-hater, I usually give it right
>>back in their faces - I like to let them know that we aren't going down
>>easily ever again.
>
>
> "We" never went down easily in the first place.
You never go down because you always sprawl on the ground and crawl, you
never stand on your hind legs.
> You're Irish, you dumb little shitska.
I invite you to come to my town and tell everyone what's wrong with the
Irish. I know, you can come here and tell Polish and Irish jokes! I'll
enjoy watching how it turns out. (Hint: it was originally a coal mining
region.)
>
>
>>But I also admire the serenity that allows you to just
>>sail on by such creatures with grace & dignity.
>>
>>Suzy
>
>
> He's just an asshole who's probably smoking something illegal.
And you are definitely an asshole who is soc.culture.israel's village idiot.
William A. Levinson
L Alpert wrote:
> "Caiaphas" <Caiap...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:ZV8Sa.4$V_4...@eagle.america.net...
>
>>I think the modern-day nation of Israel *causes * anti-Semitism because of
>
> that
>
>>nations agression against the Arab population, and because most non-Jews
>
> believe
>
>>that most Jews support the Zionist actions by the Israeli government. So,
>>resurgence of anti-Semitism in these modern-day times is because of
>
> Israel.
>
>>
>
> Actually, it is because of ignorance. The same as saying every muslim is a
> terrorist.
Draw a Venn diagram. Very few people who call themselves Muslims are
terrorists, but almost all terrorists (Timothy McVeigh and the IRA are
exceptions) call themselves Muslims.
Adam Helberg
"Theodore Herzl" <AntiZ...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3a44d57.03071...@posting.google.com...
> I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
Like the KKK and the Nazis are proud to be antisemitic. Join the club of goons.
Caiaphas
"Adam Helberg" <helberg...@earthBlink.net> wrote in message
news:q8jSa.12251$Mc.8...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
You mean, like the KKK, the Nazi, and the Zionist Israelis are proud to be
oppressors.
Tilly
Proud to defend ourselves, which is something you can't countenance.
You would rather we just lay down and let history repeat itself.
As we say "Never again". Get used to it.
Tilly
Susan Cohen
>
>
> Theodore Herzl wrote:
>
> > Ok, my dimwitted foe, please explain how I can be lying when I'm
> > merely stating my own opinion.
>
> All right, maybe you're not lying. Maybe you're just dirt-ignorant.
When he states that "Zionism = Fascism," or that Deborah is "dim-witted,"
then he's lying.
Now, if he says "This is what h[e] thinks," then he's not lying - he's
dirt-ignorant.
Susan
Susan Cohen
>
>
> The Phony Revd wrote:
> > On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:14:48 -0400, Susan Cohen> > <fla...@his.com>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >>"ChabadRainbow" <hea...@bestweb.net> wrote in message
> >>news:vherurf...@corp.supernews.com...
> >>
> >>>B"H
> >>>
> >>>It is good that the internet exists - using it for teaching, learning
and
> >>>exchanging respect and honor.
> >>>
> >>
> >>So I will take this opportunity to say that I admire you very much.
> >>Me, I have a rotten temper.
> >
> >
> > Nothing that a good porking up the ass won't cure.
Which only proves that he knows
a) nothing about sex
b) that he's been lying about me & my husband.
>
> Which is not something you could deliver to anybody, "LITTLE" boy.
>
> Of course, your first inclination is anal sex as opposed to normal
> heterosexual relations. That's probably because you, Blutkrieg, and
> Swilljerk are into "sexual diversity."
But he's too bigoted to consider this anything but an insult.
He keeps saying that any clear-headed observations on his own exhibited
sexual leanings is a "slur." Of course, if he weren't so bigoted, he could
just admit it, accept himself, & be happier - & not be such a bigot... It's
a vicious cycle.
The fact that you consider Rachel
> Weisz unattractive proves that you are a deviant and possibly a zoophile.
>
Well, I can't say she does much for me :-)
Susan
>
> >
> >>When I see a Jew-hater, I usually give it right
> >>back in their faces - I like to let them know that we aren't going down
> >>easily ever again.
> >
> >
> > "We" never went down easily in the first place.
>
> You never go down because you always sprawl on the ground and crawl, you >
never stand on your hind legs.
When it comes to lying losers like the phony rev, there's no "we" - just
"him" & "us."
>
> > You're Irish, you dumb little shitska.
>
> I invite you to come to my town and tell everyone what's wrong with the
> Irish.
He's just too stupid to know that being Irish doesn't preclude one being
Jewish.
I know, you can come here and tell Polish and Irish jokes! I'll
> enjoy watching how it turns out. (Hint: it was originally a coal mining
> region.)
>
He's just jealous. The Irish saved civilization, you know :-)
> >
> >
> >>But I also admire the serenity that allows you to just
> >>sail on by such creatures with grace & dignity.
> >
> >
> > He's just an asshole who's probably smoking something illegal.
>
> And you are definitely an asshole who is soc.culture.israel's village
idiot.
>
And scj's.
Susan>
Boondock Saint
> James wrote:
>
>
>>On Sept. 12, 2001, Israel's flags were flying at half-staff and the
>>Palestinians were dancing in the streets.
>
<snip - shinerman's pleas to bend to terrorists>
We will not bend to the requests of terrorists. Those that do this are
cowards and fools.
Thank goodness they have no authority.
Osama Bin Laden's number one grudge against the US was stated as being
that US troops were in Arabia. This kind of "provocation" proves that
they are just looking for any excuse to murder innocent people.
It is as ludicrous as starting a war because Sharon stepped in the Temple
Mount even though Arafat invited him. (Which is this current Arab started
war, this "infitada".)
Caiaphas
"Tilly" <climb...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:gSoSa.86415$JA5.1...@news.xtra.co.nz...
Well, you mean "we" as in Israelis and Zionist Jews say "Never again" --- what
does God say?
Ed
and Zionist Jews. If you consider yourself a civilized human being, you
would say the same thing.
As far as G-d is concerned, you're the one who poses as His prophet, so why
don't you tell US how you interpret what G-d would say? (I can't wait to
read this! hee hee)
Larry R
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
Tilly is a German Whore that has aids and is spreading it to make the money
for her illegal drugs she is addicted to.
She is a WHORE and likes to spread the AIDS virus to every one she can
Tilly, how many did you infect with your aids today?
--
MattA
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Truth about Howard Aubrey AKA madyan67:
http://www.geocities.com/lord_haha_libeler/
I am asking for a vote on the new site name dedicated to the Libel
Posts of Mike Shultz.
Suggestions to date that were emailed to me are:
1) The Big Lies - posts by M. Shultz -
http://www.(webhost).com/shutlzeeeee/
2) Is this another troll?. - http://www.(webhost).com/mike_the_troll/
3) Mike the libeling SOB - - http://www.(webhost).com/mike_s_libeler/
4) Post of a libeler --- -
http://www.(webhost).com/mikeeee_boy_libeler/
5) Samples of libels on Usenet ---
http://www.(webhost).com/posts_of_mike_ds_shutlz/
Or submit a new entry.
Just use the mail links below to vote
mailto:mat...@comcast.net?subject=vote4_1
mailto:mat...@comcast.net?subject=vote4_2
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JW
<Caiap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>I think
If you really bothered to THINK, then there would be no need
for your post to begin with!
the modern-day nation of Israel *causes * anti-Semitism because of
that nations agression against the Arab population,
When you either, DON'T HAVE THE FACTS (something that can be
forgiven and understood), or you WILLFULLY IGNORE THE FACTS (something
which condemns you to the same fate as the wicked), then the result is
INFURIATING NONSENSE!! The whole world was witness to UNDENIABLE
EVIDENCE of Arab aggression against Israel, in EVERY Arab - Israeli
war. To deny that, is like ignoring your own perception.
On that note, you can get a glimpse of the (hopefully) near
future. When the redemption of the Jews and mankind will come, the
Gentiles (along with some intractable Jews), will stand with their
eyes popping out and their mouths aghast shouting, "I don't believe
it!" Why? Because as this (and other threads) AMPLY demonstrate, the
Jew-haters COMPLETELY IGNORE and CAST ASIDE the INCONTRAVERTIBLE
evidence right in front of their faces! There's no reason to think
that such behaviour won't repeat itself at that propitious time as
well. Recall how the Americans were screaming, "I don't believe it!"
as the Japanese were bombing Pearl Harbour.
and because most non-Jews believe
>that most Jews support the Zionist actions by the Israeli government.
Of course, you POOP-HEAD! Self-defense is an INALIENABLE right
of everyone, INCLUDING Jews. That (OBVIOUS) last bit had to be added,
because Gentiles TYPICALLY leave Jews out, of what every normal human
being is entitled to.
So,
>resurgence of anti-Semitism in these modern-day times is because of Israel.
Not in the way you mean it. Israel is actually PART & PARCEL
of Judaism outright. Ask any ORTHODOX Rabbi. So this means that
Jew-haters just included another part of Judaism, which they always
hated in the first place! The former Christian Jew-hater has now been
eclipsed by the Arab anti-Israel hater.
JW
William A. Levinson
Yes he is, because he claims to be thinking. :-)
> - he's > dirt-ignorant.
That's also true.
http://www.omdurman.org/
http://www.omdurman.org/oxfam.html Boycott Oxfam International until
Oxfam Solidarity stops giving second-hand aid and comfort to terrorists.
ne1
spies in the US than >all< other countries combined.
ne1
ne1
news:3F17E9...@softhome.net:
>
> This reflects strongly on the "credibility" that should be attached to
> any of your future knee-jerk denials. But then, self-hypnosis and
> denial is all that keeps Zionists going, isn't it?
>
Well, that and US tax dollars.
ne1
TonyaK911
When you get to your final eternal destination, the Devil will tell you...
ne1
news:3f177...@vienna7.his.com:
>
> "ChabadRainbow" <hea...@bestweb.net> wrote in message
> news:vherurf...@corp.supernews.com...
>> B"H
>>
>> It is good that the internet exists - using it for teaching, learning
>> and exchanging respect and honor.
>>
> So I will take this opportunity to say that I admire you very much.
> Me, I have a rotten temper. When I see a Jew-hater, I usually give it
> right back in their faces - I like to let them know that we aren't
> going down easily ever again. But I also admire the serenity that
> allows you to just sail on by such creatures with grace & dignity.
>
> Susan
Just wondering...
There is no question whatsoever that because my belief in human
rights for >all< humans requires that I criticize the horrific and debased
policy of Israel towards the Palestinians, I will be labeled an "anti-
semite"
Hell, when I criticized >my< country's treatment of southeast Asia 30
years ago, I was labeled a "communist".
So the only reason why I will be labeled an "anti-semite"
is that I believe in the sanctity and dignity of life for >all< humans.
Because I consider jews to be human, labeling me an "anti-semite" is
at best paradoxical.
I didn't worry about being labeled a "commie" 30 years ago, and
history defined who was right about that war.
I expect history to vindicate me regarding the brutal occupation of
Israel's neighbors.
ne1
ralph
>
> I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
>
I'm also proud that you're antisemitic.
--
"Before I had a hammer, I probably thought, 'If I had a hammer, I'd
hammer in the morning, I'd hammer in the evening, all over this land, if
I had a hammer.' But once you have a hammer, you find you don't hammer
as much as you thought you would.'
-Ellen Degeneres
William A. Levinson
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman wrote:
[old stuff deleted]
>
>
> Tilly is a German Whore that has aids and is spreading it to make the money
> for her illegal drugs she is addicted to.
>
> She is a WHORE and likes to spread the AIDS virus to every one she can
>
> Tilly, how many did you infect with your aids today?
>
>
> --
> MattA
You've just chosen three of the four ways to crash land, should Tilly
decide it worth her while to deal with you. Accusing someone of a crime
(illegal drugs), having a loathesome disease (e.g. AIDS), being unchaste
(e.g. a whore) (women only), and being incompetent in one's profession,
are libel and slander per se. This means the person so accused doesn't
even need to prove damages.
Then again, I doubt that a sheriff's sale of your trailer and comic book
collection would bring in enough money to make such action worthwhile.
Lawyers usually expect to make more than a few hundred dollars in
contingency fees.
--Bill
Susan Cohen
>
>
> Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman wrote:
> [old stuff deleted]
> >
> >
> > Tilly is a German Whore that has aids and is spreading it to make the
money
> > for her illegal drugs she is addicted to.
> >
> > She is a WHORE and likes to spread the AIDS virus to every one she can
> >
> > Tilly, how many did you infect with your aids today?
> >
> >
> > --
> > MattA
>
> You've just chosen three of the four ways to crash land, should Tilly
> decide it worth her while to deal with you. Accusing someone of a crime
> (illegal drugs), having a loathesome disease (e.g. AIDS), being unchaste
> (e.g. a whore) (women only),
Yes, I know this is true in my state.
and being incompetent in one's profession,
> are libel and slander per se. This means the person so accused doesn't
> even need to prove damages.
>
> Then again, I doubt that a sheriff's sale of your trailer and comic book
> collection would bring in enough money to make such action worthwhile.
> Lawyers usually expect to make more than a few hundred dollars in
> contingency fees.
I just wish that Matt would calm down & re-evaluate his situation.
Susan
Susan Cohen
"ralph" <124...@gernsback.net> wrote in message
news:3F1B76...@gernsback.net...
> Theodore Herzl wrote:
> >
> > I'm Proud to be anti-Semitic
> >
>
> I'm also proud that you're antisemitic.
Ralph, that was just too brilliant.
Susan
The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
<fla...@his.com> wrote:
>
>"Larry R" <fut...@cogeco.ca> wrote in message
>news:lGZRa.2155$tJ4.2...@read1.cgocable.net...
>> You are in denial of Truth Bodick. Too bad.
>
>Yes, everyone knows the Protocols are not a forgery, biut an out-&-out
>fraud.
>
>Suzy
And everyone knows you're not a jew but an out-&-out Irish shitska.
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
You mean like she supported her friend Mike Shultz doing from me. I will
use his money to pay her off then if she can pull it off. What Country will
she do it in Switzerland or Germany? She also accused me of things that
constitute libels so there would be one heck of a counter suite as well.
TIlly is nothing but a Aids Ridden Whore from Germany of Nazi German Descent
and is infecting 1000s of people.
Hey Tilly how many did you infect today?
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
Susan she accused me of these very same things in support of Mike Shultz.
Both are Germans and she is a WHORE in mind and ways if not actual deeds.
I stand by my right to call her that and accuse her of spreading the disease
as she did the same to me.
The counter suite I would file would tie her up in court for 20 years of
appeals. And what country since she is not from where she says she is and
her Email address is phony as is then most likely the name she uses here.
Ask her again about her Grandmamma knowing Einstein. All his
correspondecnes other that those with Oppenheimer (still classified in part)
from the days of the Mannhattan Project are on display and microfilm in
Princton. Seems he never corresponded with any woman from Germany after he
left Germany about Israel, Zionism or anything else for that matter. She is
a liar and has Libeled me 72 times at least. I have a complete file on her
just incase. Her name is not even what she claims it to be so it is not
able to be libel as that person does not really exist.
Mike Shultz
wrote:
Matt, one of the many voices in you head is telling you that Tilly's
real name is "Tinker Bell". Just a friendly warning Matt, you better be
nice to Ms Bell, I understand her boyfriend Mr. Pan gets real annoyed with
nutty rats who give his Tink a hard time.
-Mike
Lotte Aron
Susan - - I have been lurking!! I belong to several newsgroups; three
non-jewish; one jewish, but the latter looks as if they are going out of
business, uinfortuntely. In the others,I feel and act and respond
exactly as you do. I was born in Germany, and, after Hitler came, I
left and came here. You have heard the expression "never again" - well
that is how I, too, feel about anti-semitic commentary. I do not ignore
it;I respond. Glad you do, also.
Lotte
Lotte Aron
friends who would stab me in the back, if given the chance"
eloquent, transparent statement!!===Lotte
William A. Levinson
Your problem is, I think, "sour grapes." EVERY woman is an AIDS-ridden
whore to you because it alleviates your frustration at not being able to
get one to take even the slightest interest in you.
Or maybe you're into "sexual diversity" like Fforby-Smythe, Blutkrieg,
and Swilljerk. (One of them says he finds Rachel Weisz unattractive, so
he MUST be into "sexual diversity." Baaaaaaaaa) Speaking of which, is it
true that you got anthrax without opening one of those letters the
terrorists were sending around? I wonder how that might have happened.
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
Tilly
You said I threatened Mike DS Shultz.
Do you mean the Dojo that was due to a threat by him to me, "Take it out on
the Street" in American Culture means lets meet on the street or in an alley
and physically fight. My Do Jo thing was about calling his bluff. He
threatened and I responded. That in the eyes of legal systems in the US
puts that on him for instigating a fight, thus responsible.
If you mean the post card, you did not even read the "virus name correctly"
when you and he both claimed I said aids. *H* *C* *V* is the medically
recognized short name for Hepatitis C Virus, note the Capitalized letters.
LOL
And his so called question I was answering with a Joke would illicit, I am
sure, a Judge laughing that out as evidence in the court and be one more
count of Libel for what I replied to quoted in full in that post (btw).
Mike said, "How many people did you *infect* today." so I joked to push his
buttons back by what I said. It worked he got really afraid, why because he
sees himself capable of it while I would not intentionally pass the virus on
to anyone, and an accident police report would be proof of that. A Van in a
snow storm with icy roads skidded and hit my car head on. I was injured,
the
air bag broke my nose. A police man to get to me tore the driver door from
the
broken hinges cutting himself. When he started to reach in near my face I
told him
to keep his hand away as he was cut from the door or some metal part, and I
told
him I had a "blood to blood" disease. He logged that in the police report
on the accident.
Now if I was spreading the disease I certainly would not have done that.
That document
is a matter of public records and the police station and courthouse in East
Windsor NJ have
the official copy of that report. I have a note that officer dropped off
with the nurses desk
in Princeton Medical Center where I was taken while tests were done to make
sure the belt
had not caused a laceration of the liver. I was kept there for several days
due to fluids found
just below the liver (common for Hep-C but also a possibility of internal
bleeding or bile
leakage from a lacerated liver). In that note he thanked me for preventing
him from getting
what I had from me. That makes your lover Mike's statement provable as
another Libel
that he will pay dearly for.
You show your prejudice by not seeing the entire picture and wanting to
conclude what you did. Mike has shown all what he is. Ed told him, as have
most moderates here to date that he is shit. So tell me are you planning to
marry him or what?
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
--
MattA
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The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe
<wlev...@ix.NOSPAM4MEnetcom.com> wrote:
>
>
>The Revd Terence Fformby-Smythe wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 00:14:48 -0400, "Suzy the convert"
>> <fla...@his.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"ChabadRainbow" <hea...@bestweb.net> wrote in message
>>>news:vherurf...@corp.supernews.com...
>>>
>>>>B"H
>>>>
>>>>It is good that the internet exists - using it for teaching, learning and
>>>>exchanging respect and honor.
>>>>
>>>
>>>So I will take this opportunity to say that I admire you very much.
>>>Me, I have a rotten temper.
>>
>>
>> Nothing that a good porking up the ass won't cure.
>
>Which is not something you could deliver to anybody, "LITTLE" boy.
Would I want to? Would you?
>Of course, your first inclination is anal sex as opposed to normal
>heterosexual relations. That's probably because you, Blutkrieg, and
>Swilljerk are into "sexual diversity."
AHA! A bigot who fails to embrace sexual diversity. How very
predictable! And how very hypocritical.
>The fact that you consider Rachel
>Weisz unattractive proves that you are a deviant and possibly a zoophile.
Do you have a problem with sexual deviancy and/or bestiality? Are you
a zoophobe®?
>> "We" never went down easily in the first place.
>
>You never go down because you always sprawl on the ground and crawl, you
>never stand on your hind legs.
Oh, will you listen to this? The mouth-breathing, slack-jawed,
knuckle-dragging jew imbecile tries to insult me. LOL!!!
>> You're Irish, you dumb little shitska.
>
>I invite you to come to my town and tell everyone what's wrong with the
>Irish. I know, you can come here and tell Polish and Irish jokes! I'll
>enjoy watching how it turns out. (Hint: it was originally a coal mining
>region.)
What's a jew doing in a former coal-mining region? (How many of your
jew ancestors were down the mines?) Shouldn't you be in one of the
big city ghettos with all the other jews? Who let you out?
>>
>>>But I also admire the serenity that allows you to just
>>>sail on by such creatures with grace & dignity.
>>>
>>>Suzy
>>
>>
>> He's just an asshole who's probably smoking something illegal.
>
>And you are definitely an asshole who is soc.culture.israel's village idiot.
And you are most definitely an asshole who must be close to the top of
the list for expulsion to 'Israel'.