Are escargots Kosher?
Paul A. Belci
We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
Can anyone help?
Thank you,
Jill
JanetLDD
Hushim
>From: "Paul A. Belci" pbe...@mindspring.com
>Date: 4/16/00 8:32 AM Mountain Daylight Time
>Message-id: <8dciso$q7j$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net>
They are not Kosher.
Israel Tekhelet
Compliments of The Merkazi Le-Modiin-Uletafkidim Meyuhadim
Harry Weiss
: I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
: We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
: and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
: I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
: consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
: anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
: Can anyone help?
: Thank you,
: Jill
Definitely not kosher. Unfortunately we have to many at our place
especially after it rains.
--
Harry J. Weiss
hjw...@netcom.com
mei...@qqqerols.com
Belci" <pbe...@mindspring.com> posted:
>I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
>
>We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
>and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
>
>I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
>consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
>anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
>
LOL
When you say it in French they're 'almost kosher' :) but when you know
what they are, they're not anymore. :) I think the only way they get
even non-Jews to eat them is to use a French name, then distract them
with conversation from the time when the waiter brings them until
they've finished eating.
>Can anyone help?
>
>Thank you,
>
>Jill
mei...@QQQerols.com
e-mail by removing QQQ
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
> I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
>
> We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
> and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
>
> I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
They are absolutely NON-kosher.
Josh
> consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
> anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
>
ELurio
We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
Can anyone help >>
No they are not....but they should be.
eric l.
Dennis Rakestraw
Levitcus 11 (NASB)
9
"*These you may eat, whatever is in the water: all that have fins and
scales, those in the water, in the seas or in the rivers, you may eat.
10
"*But whatever is in the seas and in the rivers that does not have fins and
scales among all the teeming life of the water, and among all the living
creatures that are in the water, they are detestable things to you,
11
and they shall be abhorrent to you; you may not eat of their flesh, and
their carcasses you shall detest.
12
"Whatever in the water does not have fins and scales is abhorrent to you.
"Paul A. Belci" <pbe...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> Can anyone help?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jill
Dennis Rakestraw
Leviticus (Kaplan)
11 : 9 This is what you may eat of all that is in the water:
You may eat any creature that lives in the water, whether in seas or
rivers, as long as it has fins and scales.
11 : 10 [On the other hand], all creatures in seas and rivers that do not
have fins and scales, whether they are small aquatic animals or other
aquatic creatures, must be avoided by you.
11 : 11 They will [always] be something to be shunned. You must avoid
them by not eating their flesh.
11 : 12 Every aquatic creature without fins and scales must be shunned by
you.
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Brett Weiss
of garlic butter.
--
Brett
<mei...@QQQerols.com> wrote in message
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> In soc.culture.jewish on Sun, 16 Apr 2000 10:32:43 -0400 "Paul A.
> Belci" <pbe...@mindspring.com> posted:
>
> >I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
> >
> >We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher
foods,
> >and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few
weeks).
> >
> >I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and
fit for
> >consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that
eating
> >anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish
dietary laws.
> >
> LOL
>
> When you say it in French they're 'almost kosher' :) but when you
know
> what they are, they're not anymore. :) I think the only way they get
> even non-Jews to eat them is to use a French name, then distract
them
> with conversation from the time when the waiter brings them until
> they've finished eating.
>
> >Can anyone help?
> >
> >Thank you,
> >
> >Jill
>
>
Sam Taylor
NO!
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It wouldn't be, A Dog eat Dog
World
"Paul A. Belci" <pbe...@mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:8dciso$q7j$1...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net...
> I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
>
> We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
> and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few
weeks).
>
> I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
> consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
> anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary
laws.
>
Richard Schultz
: The only reason for escargot is as an excuse to consume large amounts
: of garlic butter.
That's an ironic statement, when you consider from whom you stole
it without attribution.
-----
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Department of Chemistry tel: 972-3-531-8065
Bar-Ilan University, Ramat-Gan, Israel fax: 972-3-535-1250
-----
There's something I must tell you, there's something I must say:
The only really perfect love is one that gets away.
Susan Cohen
mei...@QQQerols.com wrote:
> LOL
>
> When you say it in French they're 'almost kosher' :) but when you know
> what they are, they're not anymore. :) I think the only way they get
> even non-Jews to eat them is to use a French name, then distract them
> with conversation from the time when the waiter brings them until
> they've finished eating.
It's rather like "jambe de grenouille"
Susan
Susan Cohen
Brett Weiss wrote:
> The only reason for escargot is as an excuse to consume large amounts
> of garlic butter.
Ah, the reason HaShem created Italian bread!
Susan
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
>
> We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
> and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
>
> I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
> consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
> anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
Snails are definitely not kosher. Nice of you to ask.
Moshe Schorr
It is a tremendous Mitzvah to be happy always! - Reb Nachman of Breslov
(mailed & posted)
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
> "Paul A. Belci" <pbe...@mindspring.com> writes:
>> I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
>>
>> We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
>> and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
>>
>> I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
>> consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
>> anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
>
> Snails are definitely not kosher. Nice of you to ask.
[Lobster is also not kosher. So here's a relevant joke]
Someone asks an old time Orthodox rabbbi what bracha is made over lobster
and he asks (thick Yiddish accent) 'Vats ah lobster ?". He then asks a
Conservative rabbi the same question and the rabbi replies, 'We'll
submit the question to the ritual committee. Come back in 2 weeks." He
then goes to a Reform rabbi with the same question and the rabbi asks,
"WHAT'S A BRACHA ???"
BRACHA= blessing
Josh
Michael Shimshoni
Harry Weiss <hjw...@netcom12.netcom.com% writes:
%Paul A. Belci <pbe...@mindspring.com> wrote:
%: I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
%
%: We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
%: and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
%
%: I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
%: consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
%: anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
%
%: Can anyone help?
%
%: Thank you,
%
%: Jill
%Definitely not kosher. Unfortunately we have to many at our place
%especially after it rains.
If the many you have are of the edible type, why don't you collect them
and sell them to gentiles? I am careful and do not suggest that you
sell them to not observing Jews...
%Harry J. Weiss
Michael Shimshoni
Harry Weiss
: In article <8dcujs$tfm$2...@slb7.atl.mindspring.net%
Ycch and deprive the pest control people from a source of income?
dltjxx
>>LOL
>>When you say it in French they're 'almost kosher' :) but when you
>>know what they are, they're not anymore. :) I think the only way
>>they get even non-Jews to eat them is to use a French name, then
>>distract them with conversation from the time when the waiter brings
>>them until they've finished eating.
Ugh. I could never be THAT distracted.
>It's rather like "jambe de grenouille"
>Susan
Double ugh.
Old joke: Two Israelis go into a French restaurant. One asks the
waiter: Do you have jambes de grenouille? Waiter: But of course,
m'sieur. Israeli: So, hop into the kitchen and bring us some
felafels.
Deborah
dltjxx
No, no! Crusty extra-sourdough French.
Deborah
Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879
by Harry Weiss <hjw...@netcom16.netcom.com>:
> Michael Shimshoni wrote:
> : If the many you have are of the edible type, why don't you collect them
> : and sell them to gentiles? I am careful and do not suggest that you
> : sell them to not observing Jews...
> Ycch and deprive the pest control people from a source of income?
Speaking as an ex gentile, Ycch is really the wrong thing. Yes, snails
are pretty gross if you're not used to eating such things, but from a
cuilinary point of view, they're just an excuse to consume large
quantities of garlic and butter. If you like garlic ...
And besides, as a Chinese student of mine once pointed out, cheese is
among the most inherently disgusting of foods. Think of it as spoiled
milk that's turned to rubber after months of failure to refrigerate.
Not to mention pickled herring. We havent the decency to eat our raw
fish fresh, the way the Japanese do in their sushi. Instead, we take
raw fish, add a bit of brine and some spices, and then let it rot before
we eat it.
So, I vote for turning edible snails over to folks who might otherwise
be eating beef. Given the world's food situation these days (now awful,
but a bit precarious), letting food go to waste by poisoning it is not
a great idea.
Doug Jones
jo...@cs.uiowa.edu
Harry Weiss
: From article <8dffq8$n9g$1...@nntp9.atl.mindspring.net>,
: by Harry Weiss <hjw...@netcom16.netcom.com>:
:> Michael Shimshoni wrote:
:> : If the many you have are of the edible type, why don't you collect them
:> : and sell them to gentiles? I am careful and do not suggest that you
:> : sell them to not observing Jews...
:> Ycch and deprive the pest control people from a source of income?
: Speaking as an ex gentile, Ycch is really the wrong thing. Yes, snails
: are pretty gross if you're not used to eating such things, but from a
: cuilinary point of view, they're just an excuse to consume large
: quantities of garlic and butter. If you like garlic ...
The other items are not pests that you want to eradicate. they are more
in the line of cockroaches and rats, and they do severe damage to plants.
: And besides, as a Chinese student of mine once pointed out, cheese is
: among the most inherently disgusting of foods. Think of it as spoiled
: milk that's turned to rubber after months of failure to refrigerate.
: Not to mention pickled herring. We havent the decency to eat our raw
: fish fresh, the way the Japanese do in their sushi. Instead, we take
: raw fish, add a bit of brine and some spices, and then let it rot before
: we eat it.
: So, I vote for turning edible snails over to folks who might otherwise
: be eating beef. Given the world's food situation these days (now awful,
: but a bit precarious), letting food go to waste by poisoning it is not
: a great idea.
: Doug Jones
: jo...@cs.uiowa.edu
--
Harry J. Weiss
hjw...@netcom.com
Brett Weiss
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Brett
"Richard Schultz" <sch...@gefen.cc.biu.ac.il> wrote in message
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> Brett Weiss (law...@erols.com) wrote:
> : The only reason for escargot is as an excuse to consume large
mei...@qqqerols.com
(Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879) posted:
>
>So, I vote for turning edible snails over to folks who might otherwise
>be eating beef. Given the world's food situation these days (now awful,
>but a bit precarious), letting food go to waste by poisoning it is not
>a great idea.
Maybe besides the paper bags for recycling paper and the blue bags for
bottles and cans, we could have grey bags for snails.
This sounds like an industry Jews would be good at.
> Doug Jones
> jo...@cs.uiowa.edu
Susan Cohen
dltjxx wrote:
> Old joke: Two Israelis go into a French restaurant. One asks the
> waiter: Do you have jambes de grenouille? Waiter: But of course,
> m'sieur. Israeli: So, hop into the kitchen and bring us some
> felafels.
Now *there's* a variation I hadn't heard - but I love it!
Susan
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
>
>
>
>
> No they are not....but they should be.
Why did you add on your opinion? and why _is_ that your opinion.
I would have said, that not only are they not kosher, they are
not fit fot consumption. Yech. I mean they're the garbage collecters.
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il
> mei...@QQQerols.com wrote:
>
>> LOL
>>
>> When you say it in French they're 'almost kosher' :) but when you know
>> what they are, they're not anymore. :) I think the only way they get
>> even non-Jews to eat them is to use a French name, then distract them
>> with conversation from the time when the waiter brings them until
>> they've finished eating.
>
(which _should_ be acceptible in a Jewish NG) s/he is told to please
translate. May I make the same request of you? TIA.
Moshe Schorr
It is a tremendous Mitzvah to be happy always! - Reb Nachman of Breslov
Susan Cohen
mos...@mm.huji.ac.il wrote:
> Susan Cohen <fla...@his.com> writes:
> > mei...@QQQerols.com wrote:
> >
> >> LOL
> >>
> >> When you say it in French they're 'almost kosher' :) but when you know
> >> what they are, they're not anymore. :) I think the only way they get
> >> even non-Jews to eat them is to use a French name, then distract them
> >> with conversation from the time when the waiter brings them until
> >> they've finished eating.
> >
> > It's rather like "jambe de grenouille"
>
> Susan, the language of this NG is English. When someone uses Hebrew
> (which _should_ be acceptible in a Jewish NG) s/he is told to please
> translate. May I make the same request of you? TIA.
I was hoping someone would ask - I thought it was funnier
in context of the "hiding icky stuff with French" if I didn't
translate immediately. Oh well - I guess I'll keep my day job.
It means "leg of frog".
Susan
bac...@vms.huji.ac.il
>> mei...@QQQerols.com wrote:
>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> When you say it in French they're 'almost kosher' :) but when you know
>>> what they are, they're not anymore. :) I think the only way they get
>>> even non-Jews to eat them is to use a French name, then distract them
>>> with conversation from the time when the waiter brings them until
>>> they've finished eating.
>>
>> It's rather like "jambe de grenouille"
>
> Susan, the language of this NG is English. When someone uses Hebrew
> (which _should_ be acceptible in a Jewish NG) s/he is told to please
> translate. May I make the same request of you? TIA.
You remind me of the following story:
This little old Jewish lady from the Bronx is visiting Paris and walks
into a store. "I vould like some cookies". The shopkeeper replies, "Madame,
in Paris ve call zis *pastilles*". She says, "I vould like some candy" and
the shopkeeper replies, "Madame, in Paris ve call zis *bonbons*". She says,
"Could you wrap in up in de bag ?" and the shopkeeper replies, "Madame, in
Paris VE DON'T SHLEP PEKELACH !".
Josh
Dan Krashin
"Dennis Rakestraw" <drake...@home.com> wrote:
OK, here's a question I've wondered about for years now...
if a mad scientist at Monsanto were to create a mutant lobster
with scales and fins, would it be kosher?
And what bracha would you use?
Danny (wondering if he should buy Monsanto stock)
[SNIP]
>Leviticus (Kaplan)
>11 : 9 This is what you may eat of all that is in the water:
> You may eat any creature that lives in the water, whether in
seas or
>rivers, as long as it has fins and scales.
>11 : 10 [On the other hand], all creatures in seas and rivers
that do not
>have fins and scales, whether they are small aquatic animals
or other
>aquatic creatures, must be avoided by you.
> 11 : 11 They will [always] be something to be shunned. You
must avoid
>them by not eating their flesh.
> 11 : 12 Every aquatic creature without fins and scales must
be shunned by
>you.
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<dnokrashi...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
Wrong question! Scales and fins have to be on a fish to be kasher. He
lobseter is always taref. I personally don't care since I do not like
it. Chrimp on the other hand are too good not to eat them. I could
understand if a O "scientist" made an effort to make chrimps a fish
with scales and fins because he wanted to taste something heavenly good
he can't eat now.
dltjxx
>>(which _should_ be acceptible in a Jewish NG) s/he is told to please
>>translate. May I make the same request of you? TIA.
>You remind me of the following story:
>This little old Jewish lady from the Bronx is visiting Paris and
>walks into a store. "I vould like some cookies". The shopkeeper
>replies, "Madame, in Paris ve call zis *pastilles*". She says,
>"I vould like some candy" and the shopkeeper replies, "Madame,
>in Paris ve call zis *bonbons*". She says, "Could you wrap in
>up in de bag ?" and the shopkeeper replies, "Madame, in
>Paris VE DON'T SHLEP PEKELACH !".
>Josh
(-: Variant-
En magazin, une touristeh et une baleboosteh.
Touristeh: "Combien pour cette tishtosh?"
Baleboosteh: "Dix francs, madame."
Touristeh: "Dix francs! Pour cette shmatta?
Baleboosteh: "Shmatta? SHMATTA!?! Ma fois, quelle CHUTZPAH!!!
Deborah
Brett Weiss
does not involve scavenging or eating garbage.
--
Brett
<mos...@mm.huji.ac.il> wrote in message
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dltjxx
>does not involve scavenging or eating garbage.
>--
>Brett
A specialized diet on a snail ranch? I can see it now:
"Out yonder on mah south forty, herds o' wily gastropods, fur as
the eye cain see, movin' 'em out to market."
Oh, what a beautiful mornin'
Oh, what a beautiful day
..
The snails are standin' like statutes
They don't blink an eye
On the end of their antennaiiii
But a crusty li'l gastropod
Is something I've forgotten the rest.
I'm grateful they're treif.
Deborah
Michael Shimshoni
Albert Reingewirtz <alb...@nethere.com% writes:
%In article <183c5e64...@usw-ex0104-033.remarq.com>, Dan Krashin
%<dnokrashi...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
%
%
%>
%> [SNIP]
%> >Leviticus (Kaplan)
%> >11 : 9 This is what you may eat of all that is in the water:
%> > You may eat any creature that lives in the water, whether in
%> seas or
%> >rivers, as long as it has fins and scales.
%> >11 : 10 [On the other hand], all creatures in seas and rivers
%> that do not
%> >have fins and scales, whether they are small aquatic animals
%> or other
%> >aquatic creatures, must be avoided by you.
%> > 11 : 11 They will [always] be something to be shunned. You
%> must avoid
%> >them by not eating their flesh.
%> > 11 : 12 Every aquatic creature without fins and scales must
%> be shunned by
%> >you.
%>
%>
%> In article <k9rK4.191663$8k3.1...@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com>,
%> "Dennis Rakestraw" <drake...@home.com> wrote:
%>
%> OK, here's a question I've wondered about for years now...
%> if a mad scientist at Monsanto were to create a mutant lobster
%> with scales and fins, would it be kosher?
%>
%> And what bracha would you use?
%>
%> Danny (wondering if he should buy Monsanto stock)
%
%Wrong question! Scales and fins have to be on a fish to be kasher. He
%lobseter is always taref. I personally don't care since I do not like
%it. Chrimp on the other hand are too good not to eat them. I could
%understand if a O "scientist" made an effort to make chrimps a fish
%with scales and fins because he wanted to taste something heavenly good
%he can't eat now.
That is the Catch 22 of being Orthodox (the only solution is don't be
O). Because before that "effort", the O scientist "cannot" eat it, he
does not know how heavenly good it is, thus he has no incentive to
make the effort. He cannot take my testimony on its taste, as he has
removed me from being an acceptable witness for having eaten it. Nor
cannot he accept the testimony of a gentile which is not acceptable
by his standards. Perhaps the testimony of a convert who had eaten
it in his previous status. No good either, as a convert is like a new
born babe, and babes' testimony is also not acceptable. Oy! Isn't the
life of the O hard?!
Have a good Pess`ah, with or without shrimps,
Michael Shimshoni
Susan Cohen
Michael Shimshoni wrote:
> That is the Catch 22 of being Orthodox (the only solution is don't be
> O). Because before that "effort", the O scientist "cannot" eat it, he
> does not know how heavenly good it is, thus he has no incentive to
> make the effort. He cannot take my testimony on its taste, as he has
> removed me from being an acceptable witness for having eaten it. Nor
> cannot he accept the testimony of a gentile which is not acceptable
> by his standards. Perhaps the testimony of a convert who had eaten
> it in his previous status. No good either, as a convert is like a new
> born babe, and babes' testimony is also not acceptable. Oy! Isn't the
> life of the O hard?!
>
> Have a good Pess`ah, with or without shrimps,
Iused to work in a Chinese restaurant. One time, someone
ordered a lobster dish. Out of curiosity, I went to see what
it looked like. I saw my friend chopping up the lobster, &
was nearly ill. It looked - and sounded! - for all the world
like a giant red cockraoch.
Even if they were magically declared kosher, I wouldn't
touch one with a ten-foot fork.
Susan
Dennis Rakestraw
Friday, seafood tradition and all! What a great complement to the Easter
ham on Sunday! I've read that Easter ham got its start has a tradition for
the early Christians to declare their independence from the Jews. Sounds
reasonable to me!
Dennis Rakestraw
"Michael Shimshoni" <MA...@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il> wrote in message
news:6E8E72S...@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il...
> Have a good Pess`ah, with or without shrimps,
>
> Michael Shimshoni
Michael Shimshoni
Susan Cohen <fla...@his.com% writes:
%
%
%Michael Shimshoni wrote:
%
%> That is the Catch 22 of being Orthodox (the only solution is don't be
%> O). Because before that "effort", the O scientist "cannot" eat it, he
%> does not know how heavenly good it is, thus he has no incentive to
%> make the effort. He cannot take my testimony on its taste, as he has
%> removed me from being an acceptable witness for having eaten it. Nor
%> cannot he accept the testimony of a gentile which is not acceptable
%> by his standards. Perhaps the testimony of a convert who had eaten
%> it in his previous status. No good either, as a convert is like a new
%> born babe, and babes' testimony is also not acceptable. Oy! Isn't the
%> life of the O hard?!
%>
%> Have a good Pess`ah, with or without shrimps,
%
%Iused to work in a Chinese restaurant. One time, someone
%ordered a lobster dish. Out of curiosity, I went to see what
%it looked like. I saw my friend chopping up the lobster, &
%was nearly ill. It looked - and sounded! - for all the world
%like a giant red cockraoch.
%
%Even if they were magically declared kosher, I wouldn't
%touch one with a ten-foot fork.
In spite of Susan's Chinese restaurant background, she seems to be
ignorant about the difference between lobsters and shrimps...
I am not in the lobster or shrimp business, and thus have no
interest to convert anyone to consume those dishes. As to
her experience in watching the preparation of a lobster, she broke
an important rule, "if you wish to enjoy a meal in a restaurant,
do not go into the kitchen". Anyhow as a child, in the "old country",
we stayed at a kasher hotel for some time, so I had plenty of opportunity
to watch a sho`het kill chickens and pigeons. I am sure that if
Susan would have watched that she would have written off chicken
and pigeons as well!
It is a well known experience that food taboos are very difficult to get
off, and there are some Jews who converted to Christianity and still
would not eat pork or other (formerly for them) forbidden food.
Susan, do you eat tongue or eggs in spite of their place of origin?
%Susan
Michael Shimshoni
Albert Reingewirtz
<MA...@weizmann.weizmann.ac.il> wrote:
Great observation. This is why I believe that anyone who isn't at least
ready to kill for his dinner should not eat meat. People end up
thinking that meat's origin is a plastic packing covered with clear
plastic, it isn't. In my youth it was my duty to bring chicken, pigeons
to the shohet. So there was never a time in my life that I wasn't aware
how meat comes to the table. Everyone should have this experience at
least once. By the way, I love tongue.
Dan Krashin
<fla...@his.com> wrote:
>Iused to work in a Chinese restaurant. One time, someone
>ordered a lobster dish. Out of curiosity, I went to see what
>it looked like. I saw my friend chopping up the lobster, &
>was nearly ill. It looked - and sounded! - for all the world
>like a giant red cockraoch.
They're kinda cute when they're alive, though. I can't
understand how people can go to restaurants and pick out their
own live lobster for killing and eating. FWIW, I wouldn't
go to a restaurant where you get to pick out your own live
cow for killing and eating, either. Even if it were kosher.
Danny
P.S. You probably shouldn't vacation in New Orleans, where the
favorite dish is hot spicy crawfish, AKA "mudbugs".
Danny
Albert Reingewirtz
<dnokrashi...@hotmail.com.invalid> wrote:
> In article <38FD75AC...@his.com>, Susan Cohen
> <fla...@his.com> wrote:
>
> >Iused to work in a Chinese restaurant. One time, someone
> >ordered a lobster dish. Out of curiosity, I went to see what
> >it looked like. I saw my friend chopping up the lobster, &
> >was nearly ill. It looked - and sounded! - for all the world
> >like a giant red cockraoch.
>
> They're kinda cute when they're alive, though. I can't
> understand how people can go to restaurants and pick out their
> own live lobster for killing and eating. FWIW, I wouldn't
> go to a restaurant where you get to pick out your own live
> cow for killing and eating, either. Even if it were kosher.
>
> Danny
>
> P.S. You probably shouldn't vacation in New Orleans, where the
> favorite dish is hot spicy crawfish, AKA "mudbugs".
>
> Danny
Morality dictates that you should not eat meat since you can't stand
the killing of an animal to eat it. Limit yourself to vegetable and
fruits.
Stephen B. Zatuchni, Ph.D.
Susan Cohen wrote:
> Iused to work in a Chinese restaurant. One time, someone
> ordered a lobster dish. Out of curiosity, I went to see what
> it looked like. I saw my friend chopping up the lobster, &
> was nearly ill. It looked - and sounded! - for all the world
> like a giant red cockraoch.
>
> Even if they were magically declared kosher, I wouldn't
> touch one with a ten-foot fork.
>
> Susan
Susan Cohen
Michael Shimshoni wrote:
Uh, no, I'm not -I'm just making an observation.
Thanks.
Susan Cohen
"Stephen B. Zatuchni, Ph.D." wrote:
> Funny story. The original in "Plain Speaking," Truman's bio, was better.
Even if I'd read that, I certainly wouldn't have plagarized it.
Susan
>
>
> Susan Cohen wrote:
>
> > Iused to work in a Chinese restaurant. One time, someone
> > ordered a lobster dish. Out of curiosity, I went to see what
> > it looked like. I saw my friend chopping up the lobster, &
> > was nearly ill. It looked - and sounded! - for all the world
> > like a giant red cockraoch.
> >
> > Even if they were magically declared kosher, I wouldn't
> > touch one with a ten-foot fork.
> >
> > Susan
Simcha Streltsov
: Even if they were magically declared kosher, I wouldn't
: touch one with a ten-foot fork.
even if they were kosher, it is still a violation of
Bnei Noah commandment (AFAIU the process) to eat/cook
thmem before killing them. FWIW, does a ben Noah need
to kosher his plates in this case (esp. in the case of
a 10ft fork!)
ps I once heard a very intellectual boston radio talk-host
discussing intricate details of this disgusting delicattesen
on the radio with a chef. He was as kowledgeable as the guest
up to the point when the chef said that the best experience
is to cook the lobster yourself. The host shyly said that he
never tried it - as his mother never did it - he was raised
in a kosher family ...
--
Simcha Streltsov disclaimer, as requested by Mo-he S-rr
simc...@juno.com all punctuation marks in this article
http://cad.bu.edu/go/simon are equivalent to (-:
Simcha Streltsov
: > Funny story. The original in "Plain Speaking," Truman's bio, was better.
: Even if I'd read that, I certainly wouldn't have plagarized it.
if it was OK for the founder of the civil right movement, you
shold not feel much ashamed!
medica...@gmail.com
> I am not Jewish, but I work very closely with a friend who is.
>
> We got into a discussion the other day about Kosher vs. non-Kosher foods,
> and the subject turned to escargots (she is going to Paris in a few weeks).
>
> I was wondering if escargots - snails - are considered Kosher and fit for
> consumption. Harriette didn't know, and I'm not so sure that eating
> anything normally considered a garden pest fits in with Jewish dietary laws.
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> Jill
Not only are they not kosher but they are STRONGLY forbidden as unclean, nothing that is a reptile, snake, insect, snail, salamander, is acceptable, they are forbidden as things that crawl on their belly. French eat horse meat and rabbit also, it is also not kosher. The French eat plenty of beef and chicken and fish with gills and scales, stick with that and enjoy the pastries and the wine and cheese (just not with meat) and the truffles for your exotic explorations...
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