Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5 million to 59,000 Jews
Gnostic Liberator
Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
million to 59,000 Jews
Majdanek Victims Enumerated
Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
Two figures of the number of Majdanek victims have usually been in use --
360,000 or 235,000. Kranz, director of the Research Department of the
State Museum at Majdanek, asserts that approximately 59,000 Jews and
19,000 people of other ethnic backgrounds, mostly Poles and
Byelorussians, died there. Kranz published his estimate in the latest
edition of the journal Zeszyty Majdanka.
http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/m/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=44
&Itemid=8
NAZI MASS KILLING LAID BARE IN CAMP; Victims Put at 1,500,000 in Huge
Death Factory of Gas Chambers and Crematories
NAZI MASS KILLING LAID BARE IN CAMP
By W.H. LAWRENCEBy Wireless to THE NEW YORK TIMES.
August 30, 1944, Wednesday
Page 1, 1910 words
LUBLIN, Poland, Aug. 27 (Delayed) -- I have just seen the most terrible
place on the face of the earth -- the German concentration camp at
Maidanek, which was a veritable River Rouge for the production of death,
in which it is estimated by Soviet and Polish authorities that as many as
1,500,000 persons from nearly every country in Europe were killed in the
last three years.
http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?
res=FA0911F83B59147B93C2AA1783D85F408485F9
On August 27, 1944, following a visit to the Majdanek concentration camp
in Lublin, Poland, New York Times journalist W. H. Lawrence wired his
report to his editor. On August 30th, his front page story began with
the chilling words, "I have just seen the most terrible place on the face
of the earth." In his article, Lawrence detailed his tour of the camp
and the evidence he found of atrocities committed there, stating, "After
inspection of Maidanek, I am now prepared to believe any story of German
atrocities, no matter how savage, cruel and depraved." The graphic
descriptions Lawrence provided of the Majdanek camp were so shocking to
American readers that the Times felt obligated to run an editorial in the
next edition which confirmed Mr. Lawrence as a "thorough and accurate
correspondent" and to cite his sources.[1] A copy of the August 30th
edition of New York Times now rests in a glass display case at the State
Museum at Majdanek, representing a connection between east and west and
acting as a testimony of the camp�s history.
[1] W. H. Lawrence, "Nazi Mass Killing Laid Bare in Camp," New York
Times, August 30, 1944, 1; "The Majdanek Horror," New York Times, August
31, 1944, 16.
http://www.uwyo.edu/historytrails/Robinson%20revised.htm
Number of Auschwitz Victims Was also Revised
It was accepted for many years after the war that about 4 million
prisoners died in Auschwitz Concentration Camp. That figure, which
originated with the findings of the Soviet commission investigating Nazi
crimes, was based on accounts by former prisoners, fragmentary records,
and crime-scene investigation at the site. In 1983, the French
investigator Georges Wellers, a former Auschwitz prisoner on the staff of
the Center for Jewish Documentation in Paris, extended his research to
include documents on the number of deportees to the camp and concluded
that about 1.6 million people were sent to Auschwitz, where nearly 1.5
million of them died.
In 1992, Dr. Franciszek Piper, director of the Historical Research
Department at the Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum, published the book How
Many People Perished in Auschwitz Concentration Camp, in which he stated
that at least 1.3 million people were deported to the camp and that about
200,000 of them were transferred to camps in the depths of the Third
Reich, with the remaining 1.1 million or more dying in Auschwitz.
Piper's book stirred up enormous emotions. "I was accused, above all by
some former prisoners, of making estimates not supported by the
documents," Piper recalls. "However, no historian doing research on the
history of the Holocaust or Auschwitz questioned them."
@toad.net Uncle Toad
"Gnostic Liberator" <lo...@gnosis.com> wrote in message
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If a Jewish sponsored group or person revises the figures down it's okay,
you see, but if a non-Jew does it, it's a criminal act! The Tribal hypocrisy
piles up so fast in this area you need a score card to keep up with it.
last_per...@yahoo.com
> Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
> million to 59,000 Jews
>
> Majdanek Victims Enumerated
>
> Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
> established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
> concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
What is this doing to Holocaust™ stock prices?
>
> Two figures of the number of Majdanek victims have usually been in use --
> 360,000 or 235,000. Kranz, director of the Research Department of the
> State Museum at Majdanek, asserts that approximately 59,000 Jews and
> 19,000 people of other ethnic backgrounds, mostly Poles and
> Byelorussians, died there. Kranz published his estimate in the latest
> edition of the journal Zeszyty Majdanka.
>
> http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/m/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&i...
The Revd
<lo...@gnosis.com> wrote:
>
>Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
>million to 59,000 Jews
>
>
>
>Majdanek Victims Enumerated
>
>Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
>established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
>concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
>
>Two figures of the number of Majdanek victims have usually been in use --
>360,000 or 235,000. Kranz, director of the Research Department of the
>State Museum at Majdanek, asserts that approximately 59,000 Jews and
>19,000 people of other ethnic backgrounds, mostly Poles and
>Byelorussians, died there. Kranz published his estimate in the latest
>edition of the journal Zeszyty Majdanka.
A recount ve demand already!
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Aviroce
> Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
> million to 59,000 Jews
>
> Majdanek Victims Enumerated
>
> Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
> established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
> concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
>
> Two figures of the number of Majdanek victims have usually been in use --
> 360,000 or 235,000. Kranz, director of the Research Department of the
> State Museum at Majdanek, asserts that approximately 59,000 Jews and
> 19,000 people of other ethnic backgrounds, mostly Poles and
> Byelorussians, died there. Kranz published his estimate in the latest
> edition of the journal Zeszyty Majdanka.
>
Another worthwhile document supporting "HOLOCAUST, NEVER WAS, IS USED
TO DOMINATE AND ENSLAVE."
Kenneth McVay OBC
<last_per...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Feb 19, 10:05�am, Gnostic Liberator <lo...@gnosis.com> wrote:
>> Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
>> million to 59,000 Jews
>>
>> Majdanek Victims Enumerated
>>
>> Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
>> established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
>> concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
>
>What is this doing to Holocaust� stock prices?
What are "Holocaust stock prices?"
--
"The Nizkor website (secretly financed by the ADL and other Jewish front
organizations) is behind it." (David Irving, whining about Google's
reminder of his disgrace.) The facts:
http://nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/judgment-00-00.html
The Revd
McVay OBC) wrote:
>In article <a41d9d84-e9e7-4e89...@33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com>,
> <last_per...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>On Feb 19, 10:05�am, Gnostic Liberator <lo...@gnosis.com> wrote:
>>> Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
>>> million to 59,000 Jews
>>>
>>> Majdanek Victims Enumerated
>>>
>>> Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
>>> established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
>>> concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
>>
>>What is this doing to Holocaust� stock prices?
>
>What are "Holocaust stock prices?"
The net present value of jew reparations taken from 1945 until the end
of time, Leading Shabbos Goy OyVey McVay (Order of B'ris Canada)
The Peeler
> Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
> million to 59,000 Jews
That title is, of course, a LIE! Here is the original title of the article:
"Majdanek Victims Enumerated. Changes in the history textbooks?"
This part of the text in above post was made up: "Lublin scholar Tomasz
Kranz has established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates"
And here is what was left out of the article:
Before it went to press, Kranz’s article was read by most of the Majdanek
museum staff and discussed at a special meeting. No one raised any
objections. “The findings are highly authoritative,” said Prof. Zygmunt
Mańkowski, chairman of the Majdanek Museum board. “However, we do not know
the definitive number of prisoners who passed through the camp or the number
of those whose deaths the camp administration did not register. It cannot be
ruled out that new documents will come to light that alter Kranz’s findings.
This must be borne in mind, and his calculations accepted with a certain
caution.”
Majdanek museum director Edward Balawejder recommended that guides inform
the visitors to whom they show the camp about the new calculations as to the
number of victims, but also tell them that research is still underway to
determine how many prisoners passed through the camp.
“78,000 deaths over the course of three years is a crime on an enormous
scale, and not only in comparison with other camps like Buchenwald, where
about 56,000 people died over eight years,” said Kranz. “It must be
remembered, however, that the number of victims only gives an idea about the
scale of genocide; it does not convey the measureless pain and suffering
experienced by the people imprisoned and murdered at Majdanek.”
...
The Extermination Mechanism
The camp at Majdanek functioned from October 1941 to July 1944. Shooting was
one of the main killing methods. The largest execution took place on
November 3, 1943, when 18.000 Jews were shot. Music was played to drown out
the sound of the shooting and the victims’ screams. Prisoners were also
gassed. Three gas chambers were in operation. Other people were beaten to
death with clubs or iron crowbars—SS men killed 200 people this way during a
single execution. Prisoners also died en masse from starvation, exhaustion,
and sickness (Source - Józef Marszałek, Majdanek. Obóz koncentracyjny w
Lublinie [Majdanek Concentration Camp in Lublin], Warsaw: Interpress, 1987).
The Peeler
You won't demand a "life" rather, or someone to talk to, or some friends,
you poor housebound sod and sexual cripple? A recount rather, you hilarious
psychopathic dipshit? LOL
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drahcir
> million to 59,000 Jews
>
> Majdanek Victims Enumerated
>
> Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
> established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
> concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
>
> Two figures of the number of Majdanek victims have usually been in use --
> 360,000 or 235,000. Kranz, director of the Research Department of the
> State Museum at Majdanek, asserts that approximately 59,000 Jews and
> 19,000 people of other ethnic backgrounds, mostly Poles and
> Byelorussians, died there. Kranz published his estimate in the latest
> edition of the journal Zeszyty Majdanka.
>
> &Itemid=8
link is bogus. so are you.
alittlesanity
Gnostic Liberator <lo...@gnosis.com> wrote:
> Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
> million to 59,000 Jews
Nothing new here; these are the accepted figures.
"Majdanek (district Lublin, general government): The concentration camp
existing since September 1941 turned into an extermination camp when
between April 1942 and November 1943 mass shootings took place to
which 24,000 Jews fell victim. In October 1942 also two, later three
gas chambers were built. In the beginning the killings in these were
done by means of carbon monoxide, soon however one was using Zyklon B
(a highly poisonous insecticide made from cyan hydrogen). Up until the
dissolution of the camp in March 1944 about 50,000 Jews have been
gassed."
Source: a summary by the Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe (Institute
for Contemporary History) In Munich, 1992. See
http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/german/ifz/ifz.report.
alittlesanity
"Majdanek (district Lublin, general government): The concentration camp
existing since September 1941 turned into an extermination camp when
between April 1942 and November 1943 mass shootings took place to
which 24,000 Jews fell victim. In October 1942 also two, later three
gas chambers were built. In the beginning the killings in these were
done by means of carbon monoxide, soon however one was using Zyklon B
(a highly poisonous insecticide made from cyan hydrogen). Up until the
dissolution of the camp in March 1944 about 50,000 Jews have been
gassed."
Source: summary published the Institut Fuer Zeitgeschicthe
(Institute for Contemporary History) in Munich, Germany,
in 1992. See http://www.nizkor.org/ftp.cgi/orgs/german/ifz/ifz.report.
Avarice
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You are hitting the nail on the head. Holocaust is intended to become
a business enterprise, a Holocaust Museum on every corner, profitting
only Jews. You must admit Jews are great marketting machine. They
market "God" among Jews, Muslims and Christians and they are the god
they speak of. All these tax exemptions are going free money to
Zionism.
Avarice
Jews dispossess Palestinians of land and property; they kill them
systematically and capriciously to extract their organs for trade;
they massacre masses of people using cluster bombs, sticky fire
(Napalm); they starve the Palestinians just to name few. In Europe
at least these bastards were washed before being killed. In Israel
they kill them even while taking a dump. Jews are filthy, atrocious
savages not worthy of respect.
Avarice
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You are a Zionist.
Avarice
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You only checked the wrong link. All links are operative except one
and in that case it could have been removed from circulation.
Aviroce
On Feb 19, 8:25 am, last_permutat...@yahoo.com wrote:
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> On Feb 19, 10:05 am, Gnostic Liberator <lo...@gnosis.com> wrote:
> > Auschwitz Museum reduces death toll at Majdanek - number went from 1.5
> > million to 59,000 Jews
> > Majdanek Victims Enumerated
> > Changes in the history textbooks? Lublin scholar Tomasz Kranz has
> > established that the Nazis murdered 78,000 people at the Majdanek
> > concentration camp -- several times fewer than previous estimates
> What is this doing to Holocaust™ stock prices?
> > Two figures of the number of Majdanek victims have usually been in use --
> > 360,000 or 235,000. Kranz, director of the Research Department of the
> > State Museum at Majdanek, asserts that approximately 59,000 Jews and
> > 19,000 people of other ethnic backgrounds, mostly Poles and
> > Byelorussians, died there. Kranz published his estimate in the latest
> > edition of the journal Zeszyty Majdanka.
> >http://en.auschwitz.org.pl/m/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&i...
> > &Itemid=8
> > August 30, 1944, Wednesday
> > Page 1, 1910 words
> >http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?
> > res=FA0911F83B59147B93C2AA1783D85F408485F9
> >http://www.uwyo.edu/historytrails/Robinson%20revised.htm
> > history of the Holocaust or Auschwitz questioned them."- Hide quoted text -
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You are hitting the nail on the head. Holocaust is intended to
become
a business enterprise, a Holocaust Museum on every corner, profitting
only Jews. You must admit Jews are great marketting machine. They
market "God" among Jews, Muslims and Christians and they are the god
they speak of. All these tax exemptions are going free money to
Zionism.
On Feb 19, 2:21 pm, a little sanity, please <ratio...@nospam.com>
wrote:
William Grosvenor
<dudar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>You are hitting the nail on the head. Holocaust is intended to become
>a business enterprise, a Holocaust Museum on every corner, profitting
>only Jews. You must admit Jews are great marketting machine. They
>market "God" among Jews, Muslims and Christians and they are the god
>they speak of. All these tax exemptions are going free money to
>Zionism.
It seems you cannot address Jewish superiority, maggot!!
Wear your inferiority as a badge of honor; you have worked hard to
establish it before the nations.
My name is William Grosvenor. It used to be William
Gruber, but I changed it in a futile attempt to conceal
my past.
I am a convicted criminal... my side of the story can be
found here: http://william-grosvenor.info
I use aliases in the vain hope that people even stupider
than I am will think that someone ELSE is posting my endless
stream of drivel. It never works, but it seems I can no
longer afford the consequences of posting as myself.
I chose my aliases to honor my intellectual, social and moral
superiors... those people I truly admire, the despised maggots
that expose my lies, my criminal past, my sexual incontinence,
my prediliction for little boys and the maggot's nest that
passes for the sewer of my mind.
I, William Grosvenor, am, in alpabetical order:
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I am the poster boy of the White Supremacy movement.
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3. I was ejected from a professional organization
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White Power!!
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mirjam
POLAND and the POLISH PEOPLE make a big income from showing the
remains of Concentration Camps
m>
> You are hitting the nail on the head. Holocaust is intended to
> become
> a business enterprise, a Holocaust Museum on every corner, profitting
> only Jews. You must admit Jews are great marketting machine. They
> market "God" among Jews, Muslims and Christians and they are the god
> they speak of. All these tax exemptions are going free money to
> Zionism.
>
The POLISH PEOPLE , not the Jews ,,,,
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,338815,00.html
Visiting Auschwitz, the Factory of Death
By Alexander Schwabe
The tourist hotels of Krakow lie just one hour away from the world's
most horrid place: Auschwitz. Close to 600,000 visitors come to the
death camp every year. Among them are former prisoners, religious Jews
and descendants of the dead. For everyone, it is a trip laced with
pain.
AFP
Visitors walk through the former Nazi death camp bundled up for
winter. Camp inmates had no such luxury.
Oswiecim, Poland -- "My name is Lukas," says the friendly young
tourist guide. His next words leave his listeners, all gathered for a
tour of the Auschwitz death camp, speechless. Heads turn down in shock
and horror.
"Officials at the camp had no problem with all the ash produced. One
thousand incinerated corpses produce about three tons of ash. They
then dispersed the ash in the river and over the empty fields." In
Auschwitz, he explains, there is not one spot of ground where one can
walk without stepping on the ashes of cremated prisoners. Lukas
describes this and other unspeakable horrors with quiet humility. The
facts speak for themselves.
Lukas, a young Pole who speaks flawless English, spends every day
leading tours of Auschwitz. About 20 tourists boarded the tour bus
this morning at a Krakow hotel, ready to drive 70 kilometers west to
Auschwitz. Along the way, the bus passes a fortress-like villa which
used to be the home of the infamous Hans Frank, who Hitler named
"general governor" of Poland and who after the war was sentenced to
hanging for his heinous crimes against humanity.
As they ride, Lukas bombards the tourists with figures. Today,
numerous Americans are in the group, but there are also Brits, French
and Spaniards. Most are under 40. The more numbers Lukas cites, the
quieter they become.
The numbers are outward signs of the stunning brutality and
immeasurable pain that made up daily life at Auschwitz, a place where
mass murder became an industry. In just about five years, 1.6 million
prisoners arrived at the camp's ominous gates. Most came in cattle
cars. Among them, only 400,000 were registered as inmates. The rest
went straight to the gas chambers and were then incinerated in the
camp's five crematoriums. More than one million people died in this
factory of death.
700 SS officers guarded 90,000 prisoners
REUTERS
Close to 7,000 inmates were still alive when the Red Army liberated
Auschwitz 40 years ago. Among them were about 600 children.
In the last few weeks before the Soviet Red Army liberated the camp on
Jan. 27, 1945, Nazis officials destroyed 80 percent of the camp's
records. They also blew up parts of the main camp, known as Auschwitz
I, and a large part of the more damning 200 hectare Auschwitz II-
Birkenau camp, where the three large gas chambers were located, Lukas
explains.
The gas chambers and crematoriums stood about 100 meters from the
arrival ramps --some to the left, some to the right. In other words,
death was everywhere. It was on this platform, just after arrival,
that the newcomers were "selected." At its height, the camp had about
90,000 prisoners with 700 guards overseeing them. Cruelty abounded and
the capacity for organized murder continues to shock. The SS system
permitted the gassing of 2,000 people at a time. The problem was, they
couldn't get rid of the corpses as fast as they could create them: the
crematoriums could only incinerate 1,500 corpses a day. Often, they
compensated by building large bonfires in which the bodies were
burned.
People from all across Europe were brought to this camp, the biggest
of the at least 52 major camps erected by the Nazis. Partly that was
because of logistics: Auschwitz lies at the geographical heart of the
continent and was simple to access by train. The landscape is not only
vast and flat but also simple to seal off from the rest of the area.
For prisoners, the trip to Auschwitz took 10 or more days. Passengers
arrived hungry and thirsty and sure their situation could only
improve. Upon arrival, they wanted nothing more than a shower. As
such, most gladly walked into the chambers where they would be gassed.
Protest was rare.
Greek Jews often were forced to pay for their trip to Auschwitz. At
one point in the tour, Lukas pulls out the remnants of tickets Greek
Jews purchased. Many of them were promised land and farms in Poland.
No one believed that something so terrible could happen to them, Lukas
said. Even when escapees from the Treblinka camp told Jews in the
Warsaw ghetto about their experiences, many refused to believe them.
The number of transport wagons arriving in Auschwitz increased
dramatically after Jan. 20, 1942, the day of the Wannsee Conference,
when the "Final Solution" -- which called for the eradication of all
European Jews -- was put into effect. Throughout Europe, ghettos and
work camps were emptied as, by the hundreds of thousands, Jews were
sent to the death camps. After July 1942, 400,000 Jews from the Warsaw
ghetto arrived at Auschwitz. In October 1942, 7,000 Jews from Krakow
pulled into the station and in May 1943, another shipment of 2,300
people arrived. In May 1944, the camp received 1,500 children, elderly
and sick who had been kept at the forced labor camp of Plaszow, under
the eye of Amon Goeth. In July 1944, 4,000 Hungarian Jews arrived.
There were also about 80,000 non-Jewish Polish prisoners and about
20,000 Sinti and Roma brought to the camp.
AP
The last known picture of the notorious Josef Mengele, who conducted
cruel experiments on children in the name of science. The photo was
taken in 1956 in Brazil, where Mengele fled after the war.
The tourists follow Lukas into the brick barracks of the Auschwitz I
camp. It was in one of these brick buildings that the cruel Dr. Josef
Mengele conducted his grotesque experiments on children, notably
twins. In another, gynecologist Carl Clauberg dreamed up brutal ways
of sterilizing Jewish women. In the summer of 1943, Block 24 became
the privileged domain of SS-chief Heinrich Himmler. It included
Himmler's private bordel, for which he personally selected appealing
women prisoners. Today, however, these blocks are the camp's main
museum. Here, behind glass stand empty canisters of Zyklon B, the
poison used in the gas chambers. Five to seven canisters of the poison
-- originally used against insects -- were enough to kill 2,000
people. In the next room, behind a 20 meter glass window, is a two-ton
pile of human hair, including several long braids. The Nazis used the
hair to make blankets and clothes. When the Russian soldiers arrived
they, found a full seven tons of human hair.
At this point, no one is talking. The visitors keep their heads down.
No one makes eye contact. Each person has to find a way of coming to
terms with the reality behind the glass.
The next block contains a pile of thousands of glasses taken from
prisoners upon arrival. There is also a pile of prosthetic arms and
legs as well as crutches that were taken from prisoners. Most
prisoners with missing limbs were World War I veterans who had lost
their body parts fighting for Germany. The SS collected the
prosthetics to give to wounded Nazi soldiers. Another room is filled
with suitcases which still bear the names, addresses, birthdays and
transport numbers of their owners, many of whom arrived hopefully,
with their last remaining valuables wrapped up for safety.
On some of the suitcases, the word "young child" is written. Close to
200,000 children were murdered in Auschwitz, Lukas explains. By
comparison, only a shockingly small 700 were liberated. Fifty were
born in this inferno. Several thousand children's shoes lie behind one
window and another showcases 80,000 adult shoes.
Tears at the Memorial
AP
Piles of prosthetics taken from prisoners, many of whom lost a limb
fighting for Germany in World War I.
The tourists pass Block 10, the sterilization ward. It was here that
Mengele practiced his sinister crimes. One of the doctors who worked
under Mengele went on to have a regular practice after Auschwitz,
explains Lukas. His patients accepted him as a decent and well-
experienced doctor. No one knew about his Nazi past.
Between Block 10 and 11 stood the execution area. Here, 20,000 people
were stood up against a wall and shot. The SS-officer responsible for
most of the killings disappeared in the spring of 1945 and was never
brought to justice, Lukas said.
This morning, a Belgian group is holding a memorial. Among them are a
group of religious Jews and an elderly woman who says she lost family
members here. As the memorial begins, she breaks down in
uncontrollable sobs and has to be escorted out.
Block 11 stands open. This was the torture chamber of a camp that in
itself was a torture. The narrow rooms where the prisoners had to
undress before they were shot remain intact. In the basement are dark
chambers in which many were suffocated. Next to them are chambers so
narrow, prisoners could not sit down. Often prisoners were forced to
spend the night here, and then the next day, when they were weak from
exhaustion, they were sent out for hard labor. Many were kept so long
in the cells that they simply died.
AP
The crematorium. Here, and in three other buildings, the bodies of
close to 1.5 million people were incinerated.
Just about 100 meters from the large villa where long-time Auschwitz
commandant Rudolf Hoess lived, and where his children played in the
garden, stands a gas chamber. It is the only one the Nazis did not
destroy in the days before the camp's liberation. From the outside, it
looks like an air raid bunker. Inside, there are still holes in the
ceiling from which Zyklon B hissed into the room. "Those directly
under a hole died quickly," Lukas explains. Those standing in the
corners spent 10 or 15 minutes fighting or screaming for life.
A door leads from the gas chamber directly into the crematorium, where
at one point SS officers burned up to 300 corpses a day. The Nazis
stopped using this crematorium in 1943, when they moved most of the
killing machine to the nearby Auschwitz II- Birkenau camp. After the
war, the crematorium, the smallest of the four at the camp, was
rebuilt as part of the museum. The metal rollers, on which the corpses
were placed and then pushed into the oven, are, however, original.
At then end of the two-hour tour, Lukas thanks the tourists for paying
such close attention. How could they have done otherwise? In such a
place, it is impossible to look away.
mirjam
mirjam
Even the BBC writes
that
Tuesday, 9 January, 2001, 19:10 GMT
Polish tourism benefits from Holocaust memories
Let`s read this again shall we
Polish tourism benefits from Holocaust memories
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Not Jews Aviroce But POLISH People some of whom might even be children
of the helpers of the Nazies.
Krakow's Jews were transported to concentration camps
By Jon Silverman in Krakow
It began with Schindler's List. Before Spielberg's film, the pre-war
Jewish population of Krakow, with a population of some 70,000 people,
was just another statistic of the Holocaust.
The city, only a 90 minute drive from Auschwitz, was practically a
graveyard. The one sign of activity was the site of Schindler's
factory and the ghetto which supplied it with labour.
This industry has made Krakow a reminder of the rich Jewish life that
was snuffed out by the Nazis all over Eastern Europe.
Suddenly Jews from Britain, America and Israel began arriving there,
searching for the past. And the Poles were determined to recreate it
for them.
History
In the ancient Jewish quarter of Krakow, Kazimierz, traditional
klezmer music can be heard in any one of a number of so-called Jewish-
style restaurants.
Oskar Schindler saved many Jews by employing them in his factory
Hotels with such names as Alef, Ariel and Esther have sprung up since
Schindler's List - and most of them have no Jewish connection other
than their names.
Eva works behind the counter of a Jewish bookshop. She says that many
people who come to Krakow are disappointed that the hoteliers and shop
vendors are predominantly gentile.
"It's difficult to explain that these are just people who have started
their businesses here, and this is their job now," she says.
There are, however, a few Jews working in Krakow. Allen Haberberg, a
Jewish American, opened up the Hotel Eden seven years ago, despite the
fact that his Polish grandparents were murdered in the Holocaust.
He looks at his fellow entrepreneurs in the Jewish quarter with wry
interest. "On Yom Kippur, the holiest day of the year, they will close
their businesses and come to the synagogue," he says.
"I don't know whether this is a compromise they made years ago when
they opened, or a genuine feeling of remembrance for what once was."
Exploitation
Modern Krakow has few Jewish inhabitants
But that's far too generous an explanation for Allen's uncle, Herbert,
who lives in London. He remembers Krakow from before the war, but he
wouldn't go back there now.
His view is that all the tourists are getting is something that the
Polish entrepreneurs think is Jewish. "They are exploiting the memory
of something that does not exist anymore," he says.
And what about Steven Spielberg? His re-creation of the story of Oskar
Schindler is certainly masterly. But in one key respect, it's a
celluloid fantasy.
The Jewish ghetto created by the Nazis, which tourists in their
thousands come to see, wasn't in Kazimierz at all.
It was actually on the other side of the river - in a district which
few bother to visit any more. But where there's money to be made,
illusion and reality are pretty close bedfellows.
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Toad Hall
"mirjam" <mir...@actcom.co.il> wrote in message
news:299cd07e-dfd5-468b...@q15g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
>Yes Aviroce
>POLAND and the POLISH PEOPLE make a big income from showing the
>remains of Concentration Camps
The Jews control the business. As you well know.
The camp is largely a reconstruction by the Soviets in any case. It's hardly
an historically accurate reconstruction either.
>The tourist hotels of Krakow lie just one hour away from the world's
>most horrid place: Auschwitz. Close to 600,000 visitors come to the
>death camp every year. Among them are former prisoners, religious Jews
>and descendants of the dead. For everyone, it is a trip laced with
>pain.
The Jew gets off on victimhood. It is necessary for their very survival.
With nothing to moan about (real or imagined) they would perish.
> AFP
>Visitors walk through the former Nazi death camp bundled up for
>winter. Camp inmates had no such luxury.
You can prove your claim, of course?
All the photos and movie footage I've seen of the camp at liberation showed
well fed, well dressed and happy people. There are a few skeletal persons
the cameras tend to dwell upon, but they are obviously suffering from
disease. In the pictures of the piles of bodies, there are no well nourished
cadavers. There are only emaciated cadavers.
The rest of your tripe is pure marketing. Marketing a story. Jews are so
very good at creating stories. It is the reason they are so successful in
Hollywood.
Toad Hall
> And here is more for you AVIROCE
> Even the BBC writes
> that
>
> Tuesday, 9 January, 2001, 19:10 GMT
> Polish tourism benefits from Holocaust memories
No argument. You make no mention of the Jews who run the enterprise though.
Why do you fail to do that?
If they had won Nobel prizes, you would be screeching to high heaven about
it.
RJ11
"Ben Cramer", posting as Toad Hall <to...@toad.hall> wrote:
> All the photos and movie footage I've seen of the camp at liberation
> showed well fed, well dressed and happy people.
That's what happens when you devour too many "magic
mushrooms", you old dopehead.
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RJ.