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Riain Barton

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May 15, 2004, 5:53:45 PM5/15/04

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[Zionism is NOT Racism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism]

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Paul Abeles

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May 15, 2004, 11:03:16 PM5/15/04

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"Riain Barton" <ri...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> [Zionism is NOT Racism, Anti-Zionism is Anti-Semitism]

Well there must a lot of Jewish antisemites then.

cindys

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May 16, 2004, 12:37:10 PM5/16/04

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"Paul Abeles" <abe...@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message
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No, but there are plenty of goyish liars like *Paul Abeles.*

Most of the time when someone makes the statement that "not all Jews are
Zionists," there is an antisemitic agenda at work.The goal is to convince
the non-Jewish world that the Jewish world is divided on their support for
Israel. The agenda is to *prove* that the State of Israel really is a
*renegade* State, and the *proof* is that the Jews themselves supposedly
don't support her (because of political/humanitarian reasons or whatever).
The argument goes that the State of Israel must truly be *evil* if even the
Jews themselves recognize this. All of this is false, and outside of the
Neturai Karta (a handful of Jews who are on Terrorfat's payroll), worldwide
Jewish support for Israel is nearly unanimous.

What all of this boils down to is that the usual antisemites have now found
a new avenue to legitimize their Jew-hatred by claiming they are *not
anti-Jewish,* they are *only anti-Israel,* and the so-called *proof* that
they are not anti-Jewish is that many Jews supposedly share their
anti-Zionistic beliefs. What a load of rubbish.
Best regards,
---Cindy S.

Paul Abeles

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May 16, 2004, 10:01:09 PM5/16/04

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"cindys" <cst...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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Of course there are goyish liars, just like there are kikeish liars. You for
one.

As a matter of fact I'm not even sure if I'm anti-Zionist or pro-Zionist. I
don't have rigid views, unlike you. My views change.

But one thing I am not, is anti Israel. Certainly, I am against some Israeli
policies just as I am against some Australian policies. I oppose many of the
current Australian government's policies. And express that opinion.

I have said this many times. I support Israel's right to exist and defend
itself.

However I will admit I am anti religious Judaism particularly of the
orthodox kind. Reform I find relatively harmless. I strongly oppose Islam
and consider Christianity ridiculous.
Another thing is, I don't hate anyone, its more pity that emotes me.

Now you have me in a nutshell.

JPL Verhey

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May 17, 2004, 11:08:58 AM5/17/04

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"Paul Abeles" <abe...@bigpond.comnospam> wrote in message

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Then you're a pro-Zionist.

"Modern Zionism is concerned with the support and development of the state
of Israel."

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?r=67&q=zionism

Paul Abeles

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May 17, 2004, 11:19:29 AM5/17/04

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"JPL Verhey" <p...@nospamwhatsoever.nu> wrote in message
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I understand the need for Zionism. I don't agree with the methodology used.
Particularly currently.