Was Jeebus a jew?
Dave U. Random
make him a jew?
I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
long lines of descendants proves me out. Just like
that Tom Hanks movie.
Face it, there is no evidence that jeebus Xhrist
died on the cross. The bibull is made up sheep
herder stories, a concoction of other myths.
NefeshBarYohai
I think Jesus is the King of the Christians. I also think that there
were Christians on earth before Jesus Christ was born. In the Torah
in Exodus, 34:7 the first word we see is ‘Notzer’ spelled in Hebrew as
נֹצֵר. The most accepted Hebrew-English/English-Hebrew dictionary and
the oldest one in modern Israel is Ben-Yehuda’s Hebrew-English/English-
Hebrew dictionary. When you use this dictionary and first look in the
Hebrew portion for the word נֹצֵר, it doesn’t appear. When you look
for the word Christian in the English portion of the same dictionary,
you find this word נוֹצְרִי Notzeri. Most Hebrew words have a 3
letter Shoresh שׁוֹרֶשׁ (root). The Shoresh for the word Christian is
the same Shoresh we see for the first word that appears in Exodus 34:7
that is נֹצֵר.
After living and working on Eretz Israel around authentic Christians,
Jews and Muslims I have a feeling that the authentic Christians may
have come to this planet from somewhere else in the Galaxy or maybe
evolved here on earth but at the time that G-d dictated the Torah from
the Shekinah for Moses and Moses followed HaShem’s instructions while
writing the Torah in all her completeness while the people Israel were
wondering in the wilderness for 40 years Christians lived among the
Jews or why else would the word נֹצֵר appear in the Torah? In my
Jewish bible that is in this language the word used to translate נֹצֵר
is ‘Keeping.’ So the whole sentence is as follows: {7. Keeping mercy
for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, and that
will by no means clear the guilty; visiting the iniquity of the
fathers upon the children, and upon the children’s children, to the
third and to the fourth generation.}
But if you look at the Hebrew it looks like the first three words are
‘A Kind Christian for Thousands.’ And who is a kind Christian for
thousands? It is obviously HaShem because HaShem is many things for
many people. He’s Jewish for Jews, He’s Israeli for Israelis, He’s
Hebrew for Hebrews, He’s Allah for Muslim, He’s Jesus for some
Christians He is everything Holy and Pure for all humankind but His
named is not spelled נֹצֵר but rather it is spelled יהוה. Some say
His name is translated as Yahweh, others say it is Jehovah and the
deeper you look the more names you will see he has in Hebrew and you
will also see other spellings of names for G-d such as Elohim, El-
Shadai, etc.
But getting back to Jesus being a Jew, there is no need for Jesus to
be Jewish but there is a need for Him to be Christian, because his
teachings are those that Christians believe in. Nowhere in the New
Testament does Jesus Christ specifically state that he is Jewish,
because he is a Christian. In fact, he is the King of the
Christians. When you look at the history of Jewish Kings, there is no
mention of Jewish King named Jesus Christ being anointed by the High
Priest (Cohen Gadol). If he was anointed by the High Priest to be
King of the Jews, it must have been done in secret if it was done at
all. It could very well be a secret known only to certain Jews. And
why would it have to be a secret? Because he fed the masses, cured
the sick, cast out demons for people that were mentally ill, raised
the dead etc. But HaShem does all these things too and doesn’t need a
physical body to do them from and the Torah tells us to have no other
G-ds but HaShem. He tells us in the Torah we are only supposed to
worship him. And what is the main form of worship that a human being
can do? It is to pray. That is why we are only supposed to pray to
HaShem, not Jesus, Allah, Moses, or any of the Prophets or other
dietis or gods of other peoples or nations. We are Jews and we only
worship HaShem. The German’s in the holocaust recently murdered
6,000,000 Jews because they would not renounce their Judaism and
become Hitler's German Nazis. Even before the Torah was given at
Sinai, the Jews were one people that worshipped the Hebrew G-d that
lives as an eternal fire in the heart, mind and soul of every Jew.
This is the way it was, this is the way it is and this is the way it
always will be. Is Jesus a Jew? I don’t know but should you see him
ask him and then let me know what he said please?
Uncle Vic
inter.net> wrote:
> As jeebus was born
We don't know this.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs.
Uncle Vic
> I think Jesus is the King of the Christians. I also think that there
> were Christians on earth before Jesus Christ was born.
As silly as that sounds to a realist, it's probably true. The first
Christians believed Jesus was a spiritual essence, not a person. The
godman jesus belief didn't come about for at least a hundred years after
the so-called events.
http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/home.htm
SkyEyes
inter.net> wrote:
> As jeebus was born into a jewish family, did that
> make him a jew?
If he existed at all, he was probably a Jew, yes. If he was born into
a Jewish family, it's a lead pipe cinch he was Jewish.
> I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
> long lines of descendants proves me out.
Well, then you're an idiot. How could Jesus (if he existed) be the
"first Aryan"? What evidence do you have to support this contention?
> Just like
> that Tom Hanks movie.
Oh for fuck's sake. Another nitwit who can't distinguish fiction from
reality.
> Face it, there is no evidence that jeebus Xhrist
> died on the cross. The bibull is made up sheep
> herder stories, a concoction of other myths.
Indeed. So why all this angst about whether Jesus was Jewish or
"Aryan"? Inconsistent much?
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
BAAWA Knight
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes nine at cox dot net
jcon
It didn't even have to be a family. As long as
his mother was Jewish, it made him Jewish
according to Jewish law. This is good, considering
the uncertainty with regard to his father.
>
> I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan
I'm confident in saying that not one of the
6.5+ billion people on earth gives a shit what
you believe.
-jc
VFW
Uncle Vic <add...@withheld.com> wrote:
> One fine day in alt.atheism, NefeshBarYohai <tac...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I think Jesus is the King of the Christians. I also think that there
> > were Christians on earth before Jesus Christ was born.
>
> As silly as that sounds to a realist, it's probably true. The first
> Christians believed Jesus was a spiritual essence, not a person. The
> godman jesus belief didn't come about for at least a hundred years after
> the so-called events.
>
> http://jesuspuzzle.humanists.net/home.htm
I remember what Kinky Friedman said;
"They don't make Jews like Jesus anymore."
--
Hint; Enjoy the moment !
bert
Jesus Was killed and #1 reason he was a Jew(Rabi) It was just another
spacetime for killing Jewish trouble makers Oi ya Bert
Brian E. Clark
im-inter.net>, anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net says...
> I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan
Hmm.
Did he travel back in time to write the Vedas, perhaps?
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Brian E. Clark
Father Haskell
"Iran" derives from the word "aryan." If jeebis
really existed, and he was an aryan, that raises
the possibility that he's related to the fruitcake
now in charge of Iran.
NefeshBarYohai
<brianecl...@address.invalid.invalid> wrote:
> In article <7dd556dce3fd0c4fdca0b9ffdfe12b2c@anonymitaet-
>
> > I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan
>
> Hmm.
>
> Did he travel back in time to write the Vedas, perhaps?
>
> --
> -----------
> Brian E. Clark
What is Vedas? Or did you mean Vegas?
Alex W
wrote:
> As jeebus was born into a jewish family, did that
> make him a jew?
Irrelevant.
His mother was Jewish, that's all that matters.
>
> I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
> long lines of descendants proves me out. Just like
> that Tom Hanks movie.
Forrest Gump is a descendant of Jesus?
As for Aryans, that is an ethnic signifier referring to a
group living in Northern India and Persia. Aryans have
nothing whatever to do with any Master Race.
Alex W
wrote:
The GermanοΏ½s in the holocaust recently murdered
> 6,000,000 Jews because they would not renounce their Judaism and
> become Hitler's German Nazis.
Rubbish.
The Mazis did not care one jot what religion you believed
in. Plenty of Jews died in Buchenwald, Sobibor and
Auschwitz because they thought their conversion to
Christianity and asimilation into German culture would see
them safe. But the Nazis cared only for your Jewish *blood*
and ancestry, not that your name was Siegfried, that you
fought for the Fatherland in the Great War, and that you
were Christian in the third generation. Every single Jew in
Europe could have converted and it would not have saved a
single one of them.
Smiler
> As jeebus was born into a jewish family, did that
> make him a jew?
Yep, if he existed.
>
> I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
> long lines of descendants proves me out.
What descendants? Name one of his children.
> Just like
> that Tom Hanks movie.
More like 'The Life of Brian.'
>
> Face it, there is no evidence that jeebus Xhrist
> died on the cross.
There is no evidence that he was even born.
> The bibull is made up sheep
> herder stories, a concoction of other myths.
--
Smiler
The godless one
a.a.# 2279
All gods are bespoke. They're all made to
perfectly fit the prejudices of their believer
Alex W
> What descendants? Name one of his children.
Gerald (and his charming wife Daisy) Sminchley, from 45
Acacia Crscent, Tunbridge Wells.
>
>> Just like
>> that Tom Hanks movie.
>
> More like 'The Life of Brian.'
He is not the Messiah.
He is a very naughty boy.
duke
>As jeebus was born into a jewish family, did that
>make him a jew?
Yes, but he immediately set about starting the new Christian faith.
>I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
>long lines of descendants proves me out. Just like
>that Tom Hanks movie.
>Face it, there is no evidence that jeebus Xhrist
>died on the cross. The bibull is made up sheep
>herder stories, a concoction of other myths.
A goat herder told me that he heard that you had thoughts. Can you prove that?
The Dukester, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
Father Haskell
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:10:07 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random
>
> >As jeebus was born into a jewish family, did that
> >make him a jew?
>
> Yes, but he immediately set about starting the new Christian faith.
>
> >I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
> >long lines of descendants proves me out. Just like
> >that Tom Hanks movie.
> >Face it, there is no evidence that jeebus Xhrist
> >died on the cross. The bibull is made up sheep
> >herder stories, a concoction of other myths.
>
> A goat herder told me that he heard that you had thoughts. Can you prove that?
You really do keep some interesting friends.
JohnN
Jesus' mother was a Jew, no one knows if his real father was.
JohnN
Smiler
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 03:04:03 -0000, Smiler wrote:
>
>
>> What descendants? Name one of his children.
>
> Gerald (and his charming wife Daisy) Sminchley, from 45
> Acacia Crscent, Tunbridge Wells.
>
Both of them? Isn't that incest?
Is that the same Gerald Sminchley that writes to 'The Times' under the
pseudonym 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells'?
Smiler
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 03:04:03 -0000, Smiler wrote:
>
>
>> What descendants? Name one of his children.
>
> Gerald (and his charming wife Daisy) Sminchley, from 45
> Acacia Crscent, Tunbridge Wells.
>
Both of them? Isn't that incest?
Is that the same Gerald Sminchley that writes to 'The Times' under the
pseudonym 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells'?
--
NefeshBarYohai
> On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:34:35 -0800 (PST), NefeshBarYohai
> wrote:
>
>
> > 6,000,000 Jews because they would not renounce their Judaism and
> > become Hitler's German Nazis.
>
> Rubbish.
> The Mazis did not care one jot what religion you believed
> in. Plenty of Jews died in Buchenwald, Sobibor and
> Auschwitz because they thought their conversion to
> Christianity and asimilation into German culture would see
> them safe. But the Nazis cared only for your Jewish *blood*
> and ancestry, not that your name was Siegfried, that you
> fought for the Fatherland in the Great War, and that you
> were Christian in the third generation. Every single Jew in
> Europe could have converted and it would not have saved a
> single one of them.
Guess what? I don't beleive you.
Alex W.
> Alex W wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 03:04:03 -0000, Smiler wrote:
>>
>>
>>> What descendants? Name one of his children.
>>
>> Gerald (and his charming wife Daisy) Sminchley, from 45
>> Acacia Crscent, Tunbridge Wells.
>>
>
> Both of them? Isn't that incest?
> Is that the same Gerald Sminchley that writes to 'The Times' under the
> pseudonym 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells'?
Oh, so you know him then?
Charming fellow, keeps himself to himself.
Used to be a major in the Raj, I think.
Two weeks in Bognor every summer; they trie Torquay but didn't
like the crowds.
Virgil
duke <duckg...@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2010 06:10:07 +0100 (CET), Dave U. Random
> <anon...@anonymitaet-im-inter.net> wrote:
>
> >As jeebus was born into a jewish family, did that
> >make him a jew?
>
> Yes, but he immediately set about starting the new Christian faith.
>
> >I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
> >long lines of descendants proves me out. Just like
> >that Tom Hanks movie.
>
> >Face it, there is no evidence that jeebus Xhrist
> >died on the cross. The bibull is made up sheep
> >herder stories, a concoction of other myths.
>
> A goat herder told me that he heard that you had thoughts. Can you prove
> that?
Why should we want to prove that you consort with goat herders?
NefeshBarYohai
> In article <30kck51qds6gddgqr3ctgn187c9i993...@4ax.com>,
>
> > >As jeebus was born into a jewish family, did that
> > >make him a jew?
>
> > Yes, but he immediately set about starting the new Christian faith.
>
> > >I believe that jeebus was the first Aryan, and the
> > >long lines of descendants proves me out. Just like
> > >that Tom Hanks movie.
>
> > >Face it, there is no evidence that jeebus Xhrist
> > >died on the cross. The bibull is made up sheep
> > >herder stories, a concoction of other myths.
>
> > A goat herder told me that he heard that you had thoughts. Can you prove
> > that?
>
>
> - Show quoted text -
I heard that syphilis started when goat or sheepherders had sexual
intercourse with their goats and sheep. Thank G-d I’ve never been so
hard-up that I would do it with a filthy beast. In fact, they women I
have screwed have all been very beautiful, but I still caught
syphilis, gonorrhea, A.I.D.S., Non-Specific Urethaitis, and Herpes and
also Susan O’Flaherty and Tilly syndrome. There is no cure for Susan
O’Flaherty and Tilly syndrome.
Smiler
> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:58:34 -0000, Smiler wrote:
>
>> Alex W wrote:
>>> On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 03:04:03 -0000, Smiler wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> What descendants? Name one of his children.
>>>
>>> Gerald (and his charming wife Daisy) Sminchley, from 45
>>> Acacia Crscent, Tunbridge Wells.
>>>
>>
>> Both of them? Isn't that incest?
>> Is that the same Gerald Sminchley that writes to 'The Times' under
>> the pseudonym 'Disgusted of Tunbridge Wells'?
>
> Oh, so you know him then?
> Charming fellow, keeps himself to himself.
> Used to be a major in the Raj, I think.
He worked in my local curry house? I don't think so!
He was the Colonel of 'Sminchley's Surrenderers'. They never lost a man in
battle.
> Two weeks in Bognor every summer; they trie Torquay but didn't
> like the crowds.
I heard it was the hotel in Torquay that they didn't like.
I believe it was called 'Farty Towels' or something similar.