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May 23, 2012, 1:00:35 AM5/23/12
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According to the December 23, 1940 issue of Time magazine on page 38,
Albert Einstein said:




Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looked
to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted
of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities
immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the
newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed their
love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a few
short weeks...

Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign for
suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church
before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the
Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for
intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that
what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.










--
J Young
jdyo...@ymail.com


W.T.S.

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May 23, 2012, 2:00:42 AM5/23/12
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In article <5legep....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Lies.com says...
>
> According to the December 23, 1940 issue of Time magazine on page 38,
> Albert Einstein said:
Thank you for those sort, incomplete misquotes from a very long article.

Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
women and men alike!
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
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expense.
>
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• R. L. Measures.

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May 23, 2012, 5:45:56 AM5/23/12
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АА Some RC priests opposed Hitler, some supported him, some kept their
mouths shut. Pope Pius
XII was one of them. Opposers were frequently shot. After the war ended,
Communists were hunting Nazi war criminals. Since Communists are
atheists, the pope helped Nazi war criminals escape to the Middle East and
to South America. There was only a suspicion that the pope had done this
until Feb. 1992 when the Argentine government revealed that they had
opened a once-secret file which confirmed that Pope Pius XII had done so.

--
Richard L. Measures. AG6K, 805-386-3734, www.somis.org

Truth and honesty

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May 23, 2012, 7:57:11 AM5/23/12
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I wish it was true but apparently it is probably The statement is probably
bogus.

The statement appeared without any source or attribution when it was first
published in Time. It is not known whether the reporter personally heard
Einstein say it. Nor does the statement appear in the definitive
collection of Einstein’s sayings, The Expanded Quotable Einstein.

• R. L. Measures.

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May 23, 2012, 9:54:15 AM5/23/12
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In article <smbtcmwszns5$.12m2od1c1hjab$.d...@40tude.net>, Truth and
€€ To me the syntax is different from other Einstein quotes - so my guess
is that it's bogus.

Kenny McCormack

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May 23, 2012, 10:43:17 AM5/23/12
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In article <rL-230512...@10.0.1.3>,
Gee. Are you saying that J is lying? That never happens, does it?

--
A liberal, a moderate, and a conservative walk into a bar...

Bartender says, "Hi, Mitt!"

harry k

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May 23, 2012, 10:45:04 AM5/23/12
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On May 23, 6:54 am, r...@somis.org (• R. L. Measures.) wrote:
> In article <smbtcmwszns5$.12m2od1c1hjab$....@40tude.net>, Truth and
Ya mean that theists were making things up and using quote mines whay
back then?

Tell me it ain't so!!

Harry K

BroilJAB

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May 23, 2012, 10:46:33 AM5/23/12
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Only the Church stood squarely across the
path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth.
Now I feel a great affection and admiration
because the Church alone has had the courage
and persistence to stand for intellectual truth.
-- Al Einstein

BroilJAB said,
Yes, I remember at the time, just before the War,
when Al made that statement. And isn't it bizarre
that these folks today actually claim 'Einstein did
not say that'. He was alive, read his own quotes
there in TIME, and had every opportunity to recant
or deny the direct quote. But Einstein instead
reaffirmed his statement.

• R. L. Measures.

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May 23, 2012, 11:11:19 AM5/23/12
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In article <jpit25$le$1...@news.xmission.com>, gaz...@shell.xmission.com
€€ He may have been quoting another one. However, lying is no problem
for good Christians because the Ten Commandment proscribes only bearing
false witness againt thy neighbor. Thus, general purpose lying is ok with
the Christian "God".

Kenny McCormack

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May 23, 2012, 11:19:47 AM5/23/12
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In article <rL-230512...@10.0.1.3>,
R. L. Measures. <r...@somis.org> wrote:
...
>>Gee. Are you saying that J is lying? That never happens, does it?
>
>€€ He may have been quoting another one. However, lying is no problem
>for good Christians because the Ten Commandment proscribes only bearing
>false witness againt thy neighbor. Thus, general purpose lying is ok with
>the Christian "God".

Are you saying that we, as newsgroup participants, are not J's neighbors?

--
> No, I haven't, that's why I'm asking questions. If you won't help me,
> why don't you just go find your lost manhood elsewhere.

CLC in a nutshell.

Christopher A. Lee

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May 23, 2012, 11:53:01 AM5/23/12
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On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:19:47 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
(Kenny McCormack) wrote:

>In article <rL-230512...@10.0.1.3>,
>R. L. Measures. <r...@somis.org> wrote:
>...
>>>Gee. Are you saying that J is lying? That never happens, does it?
>>
>>АА He may have been quoting another one. However, lying is no problem
>>for good Christians because the Ten Commandment proscribes only bearing
>>false witness againt thy neighbor. Thus, general purpose lying is ok with
>>the Christian "God".
>
>Are you saying that we, as newsgroup participants, are not J's neighbors?

It's their own version of situational ethics - driven by selfishness
instead of empathy and understanding for others.

Seen in that light the Ten Suggestions are to beat others over the
head with, not themselves, because in their eyes they're the good guys
whatever they do.

• R. L. Measures.

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May 23, 2012, 11:57:42 AM5/23/12
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In article <jpiv6j$36p$1...@news.xmission.com>, gaz...@shell.xmission.com
(Kenny McCormack) wrote:

>In article <rL-230512...@10.0.1.3>,
>R. L. Measures. <r...@somis.org> wrote:
>...
>>>Gee. Are you saying that J is lying? That never happens, does it?
>>
>>АА He may have been quoting another one. However, lying is no problem
>>for good Christians because the Ten Commandment proscribes only bearing
>>false witness againt thy neighbor. Thus, general purpose lying is ok with
>>the Christian "God".
>
>Are you saying that we, as newsgroup participants, are not J's neighbors?

АА He's not bearing false witness againt neighbors, he's just giving
misinformation to help his faltering church.

• R. L. Measures.

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May 23, 2012, 11:59:07 AM5/23/12
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In article <gm1qr71b3crbf3drr...@4ax.com>, Christopher A.
Lee <ca...@optonline.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 23 May 2012 15:19:47 +0000 (UTC), gaz...@shell.xmission.com
>(Kenny McCormack) wrote:
>
>>In article <rL-230512...@10.0.1.3>,
>>R. L. Measures. <r...@somis.org> wrote:
>>...
>>>>Gee. Are you saying that J is lying? That never happens, does it?
>>>
>>>€€ He may have been quoting another one. However, lying is no problem
>>>for good Christians because the Ten Commandment proscribes only bearing
>>>false witness againt thy neighbor. Thus, general purpose lying is ok with
>>>the Christian "God".
>>
>>Are you saying that we, as newsgroup participants, are not J's neighbors?
>
>It's their own version of situational ethics - driven by selfishness
>instead of empathy and understanding for others.
>
>Seen in that light the Ten Suggestions are to beat others over the
>head with, not themselves, because in their eyes they're the good guys
>whatever they do.

€€ Bull's-eye for Chris.

Alan Ferris

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May 23, 2012, 1:41:01 PM5/23/12
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You do realise that he was not talking about the catholic church, but
the German reformed church

--
Ferrit

()'.'.'()
( (T) )
( ) . ( )
(")_(")

� R. L. Measures.

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May 23, 2012, 3:14:07 PM5/23/12
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In article <l88qr75tccbtq8h9h...@4ax.com>, Alan Ferris
� Guffaw. Good one Alan F.

"Lord, what fools these mortals be!" -- Puck.
--From A Midsummer Night's Dream (Act 3, scene 2 i, 115) by Wm. Shakespeare

BroilJAB

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May 23, 2012, 5:26:10 PM5/23/12
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Only the Church stood squarely across the
path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth.
Now I feel a great affection and admiration
because the Church alone has had the courage
and persistence to stand for intellectual truth.
-- Al Einstein

BroilJAB said,
Al Einstein both believed fervently in God
and His Creation. And, over and again, he
validated the integrity of the Catholic Church.

ala

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May 23, 2012, 10:56:52 PM5/23/12
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"W.T.S." <m1...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.2a2639065...@news.west.earthlink.net...
> In article <5legep....@news.alt.net>, Jerk...@Lies.com says...
>>
>> According to the December 23, 1940 issue of Time magazine on page 38,
>> Albert Einstein said:
> Thank you for those sort, incomplete misquotes from a very long article.
>
> Abortion and sterilization, they save the lives, health and futures of
> women and men alike!
>>
> http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/print/14481
>>
> http://www.jennyjerrome.org/
>>
> http://tinyurl.com/3j3fkch
>>
> http://www.egalitarian.biz/Plan-B--Remedy-of-a-Lifetime.html
>>
> http://www.thelizlibrary.org/liz/004.htm
>>
> Breed like rabbits, live like pigs, die like rats!
>>
> Modern Christian: Someone who can take time out from
> complaining about "welfare mothers popping out babies we
> have to feed" to complain about welfare mothers getting
> abortions that PREVENT more babies to be raised at public
> expense.
>>

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already been lost in some parts of the world, according to a senior World
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cases of the highly infectious disease in the UK.

Dr Paul Nunn, head of the WHO's global TB response team, is leading the
efforts against multi-drug resistant TB (MDR-TB). Nunn said that, while TB
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was leaving pharmaceutical companies struggling to keep up. Meanwhile, the
disease kills millions every year.

"It occurs basically when the health system screws up," said Nunn. "Treating
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year.

• R. L. Measures.

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May 24, 2012, 8:52:42 AM5/24/12
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In article
<443b46fc-3694-42e7...@to5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com>, harry
k <turnk...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 23, 6:54=A0am, r...@somis.org (=95 R. L. Measures.) wrote:
>> In article <smbtcmwszns5$.12m2od1c1hjab$....@40tude.net>, Truth and
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> honesty <Tr...@honest.com> wrote:
>> >On Tue, 22 May 2012 22:00:35 -0700, J wrote:
>>
>> >> According to the December 23, 1940 issue of Time magazine on page 38,
>> >> Albert Einstein said:
>>
>> >> Being a lover of freedom, when the revolution came in Germany, I looke=
>d
>> >> to the universities to defend it, knowing that they had always boasted
>> >> of their devotion to the cause of truth; but, no, the universities
>> >> immediately were silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of the
>> >> newspapers whose flaming editorials in days gone by had proclaimed the=
>ir
>> >> love of freedom; but they, like the universities, were silenced in a f=
>ew
>> >> short weeks...
>>
>> >> Only the Church stood squarely across the path of Hitler's campaign fo=
>r
>> >> suppressing truth. I never had any special interest in the Church
>> >> before, but now I feel a great affection and admiration because the
>> >> Church alone has had the courage and persistence to stand for
>> >> intellectual truth and moral freedom. I am forced thus to confess that
>> >> what I once despised I now praise unreservedly.
>>
>> >I wish it was true but apparently it is probably The statement is probab=
>ly
>> >bogus.
>>
>> >The statement appeared without any source or attribution when it was fir=
>st
>> >published in Time. =A0It is not known whether the reporter personally he=
>ard
>> >Einstein say it. =A0Nor does the statement appear in the definitive
>> >collection of Einstein=A2s sayings, The Expanded Quotable Einstein.
>>
>> =80=80 =A0To me the syntax is different from other Einstein quotes - so m=
>y guess
>> is that it's bogus.
>>
>> --
>> Richard L. Measures. AG6K, =A0805-386-3734,www.somis.org
>
>Ya mean that theists were making things up and using quote mines whay
>back then?
>
>Tell me it ain't so!!
>
>Harry K

*** The Ten Commandments tacitly authorizes Christians to make up any
goddamn lie they wish short of calumny to sell their brand of Christianity
to the unwary.
IMO the RCC would have been far better off to have let the Eugenio
Pacelli/Pius XII WW2 genocide issue die a natural death than to try to get
away with beatifying him.

As I see it: 'Tis better to let sleeping dogmatists lie and not to try
propagating lies about the mo-fos.

cheers Harry

Uirgil

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May 24, 2012, 7:03:16 PM5/24/12
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In article
<2f723774-7c82-4e48...@hq4g2000vbb.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:

> Only the Church stood squarely across the
> path of Hitler's campaign for suppressing truth.

And , at least in germany, did not do much.

Uirgil

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May 24, 2012, 7:06:05 PM5/24/12
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In article
<b8fc622e-79d5-4611...@z19g2000vbe.googlegroups.com>,
BroilJAB <Design...@wmconnect.com> wrote:


>
> BroilJAB said,
> Al Einstein believed fervently in God

But Einstein himself says otherwise:


On 22 March 1954 Einstein received a letter from J. Dispentiere, an
Italian immigrant who had worked as an experimental machinist in New
Jersey. Dispentiere had declared himself an atheist and was despaired by
a news report which had cast Einstein as conventionally religious.
Einstein replied on 24 March 1954:
It was, of course, a lie what you read about my religious
convictions, a lie which is being systematically repeated.
I do not believe in a personal God and I have never denied
this but have expressed it clearly. If something is in me
which can be called religious then it is the unbounded
admiration for the structure of the world so far as our science
can reveal it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein's_religious_views

So BroilJAB is not to be trusted!

Paul Duca

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May 28, 2012, 1:08:59 AM5/28/12
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On May 23, 10:46 am, BroilJAB <DesignDen...@wmconnect.com> wrote:


> And now that Einstein doesn't have his brain,
> he makes the PERFECT Catholic.



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