Help with Hebrew name equivalent
marcy v kaplan
In <4t9ol7$e...@glas.apc.org> schier <sch...@pop.glas.apc.org> writes:
>
>There is no particular Hebrew equivalent for Marcia. Does she know her
>grandmother's Hebrew name? This is one solution. Another is to choose
a
>name beginning with the Hebrew letter MEM; Miryam, Malka etc.
>
>Yitzchak
>
There is a Yiddish equivilent which is acceptable as a religious name:
Masha.
or...@wolfenet.com
Dear fellow newsgropup readers
I have just returned from a trip in which I met my birth mother for
the first time in 41 years. She is Jewish though she has not actively
practiced the religion. She was never given a Hebrew name and would
very much like to know what it would be. Her name in English is
Marcia. Does anyone know what the Hebrew equivalent would be, or how I
could find out.
Thanks a lot for any help you can provide.
Gloria
or...@wolfenet.com
schier
emailto:
Oren: Yitzchak's answer was a good one...
I wanted to find the meaning of Marcia, and see if that way I
could find an interesting Hebrew/Jewish equivalent. An etymology
search provided me with a little more info (from an internet search).
Marcia derives from the feminine for the Latin name Marcus, which
is either a variation of "Marius" or of unknown origin. Marius,
incidentally, means "of Mars" -- the pagan god of war. Not much of
an angle for a Jewish name equivalent.
Which brings us back to Yitzchak's suggestion -- find some Jewish
name beginning with Mem which sounds similar to Marcia.
Miryam and Malka would be the two best equivalents I could come
up with offhand... and that was before reading Yitzchak's exact same
suggestions. I would lean towards Miryam --while Malka (meaning "queen")
sounds like Marcia, Miryam is closer in two respects:
1) Marcia as a non-Jewish name may also derive from "Mary", which derives
directly from Miryam.
2) Miryam, as Moses's sister, was on of the few prophetesses of the
Old Testament. The prophesy for which she is most famed occurs
during Exodus, after the parting of the Red Sea and the closing of the
waters on the oncoming Egyptians -- she leads the women of Israel in
a chant of triumph, "Ashirah l'Adoshem Ki Ga'o Ga'ah"... and a
prophetess chanting a song of triumph, I think, would be the most
appropriate counterpart to a pagan war-god.
(I'm rather pleased with my work here, I think!)
Yours,
LC
Dani Zilberstein
> Masha.
Excuse me, but it is pure russian one. It is russian shortage
for Maria (from jewish Miriam). I don't see any connection to Marcia.
It also never was Yidish.
with esteem.
--
Dani Zilberstein
We are changing. And our signatures are changing
together with our changing. (haDA"Z thoughts 1,1 :-)
mei...@erols.com
In soc.culture.jewish on 29 Jul 1996 16:22:35 GMT emailto:
co...@management.mcgill.ca posted:
>Oren: Yitzchak's answer was a good one...
his work snipped but I like it too
>(I'm rather pleased with my work here, I think!)
>Yours,
>LC
>> or...@wolfenet.com writes:
>> Dear fellow newsgropup readers
>> I have just returned from a trip in which I met my birth mother for
>> the first time in 41 years. She is Jewish though she has not actively
>> practiced the religion. She was never given a Hebrew name and would
>> very much like to know what it would be. Her name in English is
>> Marcia. Does anyone know what the Hebrew equivalent would be, or how I
>> could find out.
>> Thanks a lot for any help you can provide.
>> Gloria
>> or...@wolfenet.com
>>
Can you find out who Marcia was named after and what her Hebrew name
was
>>
>>>>>
Shalom, mei...@erols.com
Probably posting from soc.culture.jewish.
I miss many posts so e-mail also if you
want me to get it. Also not a posek.
Janice Gelb
In article 5...@ratty.wolfe.net, or...@wolfenet.com writes:
>Dear fellow newsgropup readers
>I have just returned from a trip in which I met my birth mother for
>the first time in 41 years. She is Jewish though she has not actively
>practiced the religion. She was never given a Hebrew name and would
>very much like to know what it would be. Her name in English is
>Marcia. Does anyone know what the Hebrew equivalent would be, or how I
>could find out.
>
The only connection Hebrew names given at birth often have with
the English name is the first initial. They rarely have the same
meaning as the English name. In Ashkenazi circles, children are
usually given the Hebrew name of a deceased relative and the English
name is derived from it, usually from the first initial.
She is free to "take on" any Hebrew name she likes. Ones starting
with "mem" include Malka ("queen"), Miriam, and Mazal.
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Shoshana L. Boublil
Dani Zilberstein <da...@bnr.ca> wrote:
I don't know any russian, but in Israel Masha has become a female
version of Moshe, and is accepted as such.
Shoshana Boublil
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Shoshana L. Boublil wrote:
> >> >There is no particular Hebrew equivalent for Marcia. Does she know her
> >> >grandmother's Hebrew name? This is one solution. Another is to choose a
> >> >name beginning with the Hebrew letter MEM; Miryam, Malka etc.
> >> >Yitzchak
> >> There is a Yiddish equivilent which is acceptable as a religious name:
> >> Masha.
> >Excuse me, but it is pure russian one. It is russian shortage
> >for Maria (from jewish Miriam). I don't see any connection to Marcia.
> >It also never was Yidish.
> >with esteem.
> >--
> >Dani Zilberstein
> I don't know any russian, but in Israel Masha has become a female
> version of Moshe, and is accepted as such.
>
> Shoshana Boublil
My sincere condolences. There are about 1,000,000 (rounded) people
speaking Russian in Israel. Including me (although I also speak
Hebrew like the most of this 1,000,000). Also you can be wishing to
read some books by Lev Tolstoy, or Dostoyevsky. You can find this name
there.
About female version of Moshe as Masha, I am hearing about it for first
time. It looks like a fantasy of the poster. I never heared about it
either from a religious or from a secular israeli.
Give me please an example, including the e-mail address of such person
or her parent. I'd like very much to have a correspondition with
him/her.
--
Dani Zilberstein
We are changing. And our signatures are changing
together with our changing. (haDA"Z thoughts 1,1 :-)
Don't judge your fellow according to his/her Internet address.
(haDA"Z thoughts 1,2 :-)
Barbara Rosenfeld
In <31FD3A...@bnr.ca> Dani Zilberstein <da...@bnr.ca> writes:
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>marcy v kaplan wrote:
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>> In <4t9ol7$e...@glas.apc.org> schier <sch...@pop.glas.apc.org>
writes:
>> >
her
>>
>> >grandmother's Hebrew name? This is one solution. Another is to
choose
>> a
>> >name beginning with the Hebrew letter MEM; Miryam, Malka etc.
>> >
>> >Yitzchak
>> >
>> There is a Yiddish equivilent which is acceptable as a religious
name:
>> Masha.
>
>Excuse me, but it is pure russian one. It is russian shortage
>for Maria (from jewish Miriam). I don't see any connection to Marcia.
>It also never was Yidish.
>
>with esteem.
>--
>Dani Zilberstein
It all depends on who the baby is named after. My middle name is
Marcia and got the Yiddish name Masha named after grandpa Moshe.
The Rabbi told my parents that Masha is a feminine equivalent of Moshe.
As for Hebrew, I don't really know what that would be, but I use the
Yiddish equivalent.
Shoshana L. Boublil
Hi Dani,
Sorry, I don't have my friend Masha's e-mail address. We lost contact
after we married. She was actually a few years older than I, and she,
like me, was born in the states. She is orthodox, so you can be sure
she wasn't named for "Maria" especially as she told me herself that
she was named for her grandfather Moshe.
We lived in Petah Tiqva at the time, and it wasn't a fantasy of mine.
( should I be insulted/ expect an apology?).
Maybe if she or her sister are lurking out there, they could contact
you themselves.
BTW I have read book by Tolstoy and Dostoyevsky. This does not
preclude the possibility that a name will have more than one
origin/meaning.
Shoshana, Israel
Dani Zilberstein <da...@bnr.ca> wrote:
>Shoshana L. Boublil wrote:
>> >> >There is no particular Hebrew equivalent for Marcia. Does she know her
>> >> >grandmother's Hebrew name? This is one solution. Another is to choose a
>> >> >name beginning with the Hebrew letter MEM; Miryam, Malka etc.
>> >> >Yitzchak
>> >> There is a Yiddish equivilent which is acceptable as a religious name:
>> >> Masha.
>> >Excuse me, but it is pure russian one. It is russian shortage
>> >for Maria (from jewish Miriam). I don't see any connection to Marcia.
>> >It also never was Yidish.
>> >with esteem.
>> >--
>> >Dani Zilberstein
>> I don't know any russian, but in Israel Masha has become a female
Haim Guivon
> In article 5...@ratty.wolfe.net, or...@wolfenet.com
writes:
Dear Lady:
Congratulations for meeting your mother. (Would you care
to tell me more?)
I've made some research, and here are my suggestions:
1) Martha (a hebrew name from the Talmudic time. She was
the daughter of Baithos. Ask a Rav. It is in Massekhet
Gittin)
2) Morashah (from modern times. It means Heritage)
3) Moriah (The sacred mount, where the Temple was. Also
the name of my grandaughter)
3) Mirtzah (From modern times. I suppose it means Energy,
Activity)
Hope it helps.
Haim
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Date: 01/08/96
Time: 06:45:39
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> In <4t9ol7$e...@glas.apc.org> schier <sch...@pop.glas.apc.org> writes:
> >
>
> >grandmother's Hebrew name? This is one solution. Another is to choose
> a
> >name beginning with the Hebrew letter MEM; Miryam, Malka etc.
> >
> >Yitzchak
> >
> There is a Yiddish equivilent which is acceptable as a religious name:
> Masha.