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HHW
From the bowels of hell
10 Dec. '08: Hebron: Willful abandonment by security forces
12.10.2008 | B'Tselem
On 4 December, immediately after the settlement in Hebron’s a-Ras
neighborhood (“the House in Dispute”) was evicted, B'Tselem issued a
public call to security forces to protect the Palestinian residents of
the city, and Palestinians throughout the West Bank, from expected
acts of revenge by settlers.
In the weeks that preceded the eviction, settlers attacked
Palestinians and damaged Palestinian property daily in Hebron.
Although these attacks were extensive and prolonged, Israel’s security
forces failed to prevent them. In one of the incidents that B'Tselem
documented, on 30 November, about 50 settlers entered a Palestinian
neighborhood at 2:00 A.M., accompanied by an army jeep. The settlers
threw stones that shattered windowpanes of houses and of some 25 cars,
and punctured the tires of the cars. They then threw stones at houses
in the neighborhood and shattered windowpanes.
Despite B'Tselem’s warning, and despite the high probability that
attacks of this kind would occur, the security forces failed to
properly protect the city’s Palestinian residents also after the
eviction, when settlers invaded Palestinian neighborhoods in the city,
torched houses and cars, threw stones, shattered windowpanes, and
damaged solar-heated water tanks, satellite dishes, and water
containers.
A particularly severe attack occurred in Hebron’s Wadi al-Hussein
neighborhood, by the house of the al-Matariyeh and Abu Sa’ifan
families. Jamal Abu-Sa'ifan, a participant in B'Tselem's camera
distribution project, filmed the event. A settler fired at three
members of the al-Matariyeh family from close range, wounding them. A
second settler fired into the air and towards the photographer, trying
also to grab the camera from him. A third settler fired into the air
and towards the house. B'Tselem handed over the video to the police
the same day. Two of the suspects surrendered themselves to the police
two days later and have since been released.
Following the shooting, dozens of settlers attacked the houses of the
two families and their neighbors. They threw stones at the houses,
climbed onto the roofs and damaged solar-heated water tanks and
satellite dishes, and set fires near the houses and on farmland.
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B'Tselem field worker 'Issa 'Amro filmed fires started by settlers in
Wadi al-Hussein, the same neighborhood where the shooting incident
occurred.
[Windows Media video]
At the same time, settlers also attacked Palestinians elsewhere in the
West Bank. These attacks included stone throwing at houses and cars,
destroying property, setting fires, and spraying graffiti on the walls
of mosques.
Graffiti reading “Death to Arabs” and “Hebron” sprayed by settlers on
a Palestinian ambulance in Dir Astiyeh, Salfit District, the central
West Bank. Photo: Ra’aed Moqdi, B'Tselem, 4 December 2008.
Testimony: Settlers assault family in Hebron following the eviction of
the settlement in the a-Ras neighborhood, 4 December 2008
12.04.2008 | B'Tselem
By
Raja al-Matariyeh, mother of five
My husband and I live with our five children in Wadi al-Hussein. My
brother-in-law Husni al-Matariyeh and his family live in the same
building. He has ten children.
The building is located about twenty meters from the fence of the
Kiryat Arba settlement and two hundred meters from the house that the
settlers invaded about a year and a half ago [“the House in Dispute”].
Settlers have been assaulting us almost every day for a long time.
Since they invaded the house, they’ve been attacking us even more.
Twenty days ago, when the Supreme Court decided that they had to leave
the house, settlers cut the wire fence surrounding Kiryat Arba close
to our building. The army hasn’t fixed the fence since then.
On Saturday, 29 November, settlers threw stones at our house. To
defend ourselves, we threw stones at them, and they ran away. That
same day, an officer from the Civil Administration came to our house
and told us: “You are our responsibility, and we’ll protect you.” He
asked us to file a complaint with the police. We told him, “We’ve
already complained a lot of times, and it never helps.” But he
insisted, so the next day, my husband went to the Israeli police
station and filed a complaint against the settlers who attacked our
house.
On Monday night, 1 December, settlers again attacked our house. They
stood by the hole in the fence and threw lots of stones at us. They
also tried to enter our house. They climbed onto the roof and
destroyed some of our property. We shouted for help, but it took the
soldiers about two hours to arrive.
On Thursday [4 December], around 2:30 P.M., a large police force
entered the Rajbi house. My family and I went outside to watch the
eviction. My children and my brothers-in-law’s children were playing
outside. When the police began to evict the occupants from the house,
we saw settlers passing along a path next to our house, apparently on
their way to the Rajbi house to prevent the eviction.
Suddenly, two settlers came up and tried to assault my brother-in-law
Husni. One of them was holding a pistol. My father-in-law, ‘Abd al-Hai
al-Matariyeh, told him to leave because we didn't want any problems.
The settler fired a shot that hit Husni in the chest. When my father-
in-law tried to overcome the shooter, the same settler shot him in his
left arm. Then dozens of settlers attacked our house with stones and
tried to burn the houses of our neighbors. There were also settlers
who fired into the air. We threw stones at them to protect our house,
and some of them fired in our direction.
After about fifteen minutes passed, four soldiers arrived and ordered
us to go into the house. We went inside and could no longer defend
ourselves. The soldiers didn’t try to stop the settlers’ attack.
The settlers continued their attack for about two hours. My children
and I stayed in one room. They children were terrified and we were all
crying. We heard the sound of the windows breaking and of the water
tanks being punctured. Flames spread into the house and we had to put
them out with blankets, because the settlers had damaged our water
system.
All this time, there were about four soldiers next to the house, but
they didn't help. The settlers tried to burn the house of our
neighbors, the a-Razem family. I told the soldiers what they were
doing, but they didn't stop the settlers. After about half an hour
passed, one of the soldiers went there and brought the woman and
children to our house.
The attack didn't stop until journalists arrived at our house. An
Israeli journalist called the police and then the police arrived, but
the settlers had already destroyed most of the property of the houses
in our area. They had punctured a dozen or so water tanks, destroyed
two electric boilers, a solar water tank, and about five satellite
dishes. Part of our house was burned, the electricity, telephone, and
water lines were completely destroyed, and most of our windows were
shattered.
We’ve lost our faith that the Israeli police would protect us. Now we
don’t have running water or a telephone line, our windows are broken,
and the TV doesn’t work. We feel isolated from the outside world.
Raja Yusef Rashid al-Matariyeh, 40, married and mother of five
children, is a homemaker and a resident of Hebron. Her testimony was
given to 'Issa 'Amro at the witness’s home on 7 December 2008.
drahcir
> From the bowels of hell
Gosh, how dramatic. Some people lost their satellite antennas,
heavens, stop the world. Yes, the settlers are crazy, hyper-religious
morons. If Israeli security willfully failed to protect the arabs and
their property, they should be dealt with, but of course, that remains
to be proven. Shit happens everywhere in the world - believe it or
not, there are shootings at 2 AM elsewhere besides Israel, in fact,
sometimes people even die in those shootings. I seem to remember that
once someone was shot right in Detroit!! Can you believe it? I will
admit that damaging a solar water heater, why, that is something
straight from the bowels of hell, who could deny that? But let's see
the big picture, which is that all this happened because Israeli
justice has demanded that the settlers leave.
mir...@actcom.co.il
Strange!!! that Nobody here writes how the representitives of our
Israeli government , visited EACH house hold that claimed to have Any
Dammge, and after evaluating it they will get compensastion. While in
Greece there were just now lots riots , lots of shops dammaged, do you
think the Greece government is going to compensate the Shop owners all
over Greece?
mirjam
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Eli Grubman
Who cares what happens to all the grik ragheads? They're just arabs
in western clothing.
Eli
American Eagle
necessary to Nuke Israel, we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
you are at ground Zero. Your poisonous postings really show us what a
swine you are.
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From the bowels of hell
12.10.2008 | B'Tselem
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12.04.2008 | B'Tselem
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drahcir
> Strange!!! that Nobody here writes how the representitives of our
> Israeli government , visited EACH house hold that claimed to have Any
> Dammge, and after evaluating it they will get compensastion.
Heavens! I am sure HHW feels simply terrible for omitting that! Don't
you, H?
C'mon, don't be shy, speak up!
drahcir
> I agree that all Muslims should leave Israel. That way when we find it
> necessary to Nuke Israel,
who's "we"?
we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
> you are at ground Zero. Your poisonous postings really show us what a
> swine you are.
>
> ßÇDoügs wrote:
> > Beat, bomb and blast the muslime pigs out of Israel.
>
> > "HHW" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Patriot
> On Dec 14, 1:54 am, American Eagle <A...@USA.com> wrote:
>> I agree that all Muslims should leave Israel. That way when we find it
>> necessary to Nuke Israel,
>
> who's "we"?
That is real America, Not a fucking traitor like you. Richard, your a
loser even here.
drahcir
> drahcir wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 1:54 am, American Eagle <A...@USA.com> wrote:
> >> I agree that all Muslims should leave Israel. That way when we find it
> >> necessary to Nuke Israel,
>
> > who's "we"?
>
> That is real America,
Translation: it's a fun, imaginary place.
Not a fucking traitor like you. Richard, your a
> loser even here.
Hmm, "your a loser", might this be Ben in disguise? When will you
master "your" and "you're"? Here's the deal, Ben. So long as you make
fundamental grammatical errors, you give yourself away as an imbecile.
If getting a fourth grade issue right is completely beyond you, what
are the chances that you will have developed a valid outlook on any
complex issue? I am sure you will agree that the above reasoning is
flawless. The conclusion one must draw is, if you want to help your
cause, you should stand by Israel on any issue - people reading that
will think hey, if Ben is for israel, and Ben is always wrong because
he's an imbecile, I'd better reassess.
HHW
> On Dec 13, 10:16 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From the bowels of hell
>
> Gosh, how dramatic.
Would you prefer the bowels of Zionist Israel?
Sometimes
Some people lost their satellite antennas,
> heavens, stop the world. Yes, the settlers are crazy, hyper-religious
> morons.
Thank you for that, but the thesis of the article is that they are
also out of control and assaultive. They've driven 25,000 people out
of the center of Hebron. That matters unless you're some kind of
racist thug. We fought it in this country though we had an overt
history of slavery. For Israel it's public policy in the 21st Century
and Americans can't even raise the issue without being accused of anti-
Semitism and gratuitously defamed. Worse is the corruption of our
government on behalf of these stinking policies. To find an American
equivalent we'd have to go back to turn of the century Jim Crow and
the lynch mob. And even then it was a control measure. It wasn't a
part of an effort to expel African-Americans from the country.
If Israeli security willfully failed to protect the arabs and
> their property, they should be dealt with, but of course, that remains
> to be proven.
Before whom, the occupation authorities? The article deals with them
too. Ultimately it is their policies as determined by their government
which are being evaluated. You'd like the world to think that these
are just random crimes which ought to be below the radar when in fact
they are the policy of Zionist Israel. The only reason you,
personally, are here is to attempt the suppression of public criticism
of that policy.
Shit happens everywhere in the world - believe it or
> not, there are shootings at 2 AM elsewhere besides Israel, in fact,
> sometimes people even die in those shootings.
This is the classical dodge. "Judge, I did it, true enough, but how
could I be guilty of a crime when others have committed it before in
other places and some have not even been brought to justice?" Face it,
Ratner, it's not a defense. What you're defending is Jewish IMPUNITY
under a so-called democratic government. That's pure racism. The UN
had it exactly right.
I seem to remember that
> once someone was shot right in Detroit!! Can you believe it?
Indeed, and the perp may or may not be in prison. But the effort to
put him there was certainly made. No fanatic racists such as you were
making the bizarre claim that he couldn't be prosecuted because a
similar crime had been committed in Peoria. You know what's going on
here, Ratner. The crimes of the settlers are suborned by the
government. They are a part of Zionist policy. It's an extension of
the government policy of ethnic cleansing begun in 1947. It's politics
"by other means." There is someone behind that curtain, Dorothy.
It's an ideological racist fanatic pretending to be the agent of "the
only democracy in the Middle East".
I will
> admit that damaging a solar water heater, why, that is something
> straight from the bowels of hell, who could deny that?
In a real democracy it would be a felony and it wouldn't be
perpetrated with impunity in the presence of the authorities. Does
that suit you? On the West Bank those who commit these religious and
ideological crimes are almost never prosecuted. Their crimes are not
taken seriously because THEY ARE GOVERNMENT POLICY. That's why these
analogues to the Hitler Youth were sent there in the first place.
They're the most mindlessly aggressive of all Israelis. They're
perfect for making life miserable for the Palestinians. The theory is
that if the misery is prolonged enough and is bloody enough the
Palestinians will leave their homes, emigrate and that will be "good
for the Jews and for Zionism," their racist ideology. You'll recall
that Zionism IS racism. In its present form it is also a scourge of
America.
But let's see
> the big picture, which is that all this happened because Israeli
> justice has demanded that the settlers leave.
"All this happened," because, etc., etc. Bullshit. It's been going on
for decades, four decades in fact. It's nothing new. It's racist
government policy you defend here with your smug nonsense.
As to the deceitfully named "Peace House," the government has simply
demanded that the funeral directors in ringlets abandon a building
with title problems while the Israeli court system sorts out how to
*appear* to deal with the conflict between Zionism and elementary
justice.
This is probably as good a place to offer for the third or fourth time
a proposal that we both stop the ad hominem attacks on each other. All
I want to do here is to address the issues for America and Israel. I
will not be driven away by personal attacks. You don't have to be
subject to them either. The last time I mentioned this you tried to
distinguish between how we do it to each other. That's bullshit and
you know the history shows it. Let's just quit it and address the
historical issues. But if you insist on trying to drive me off with ad
hominem crap as in the past I suppose we will just have to continue.
If you want to talk with me about it by e-mail that's fine too.
HHW
> Strange!!! that Nobody here writes how the representitives of our
> Israeli government , visited EACH house hold that claimed to have Any
> Dammge, and after evaluating it they will get compensastion.
Compensation for what, mirjam? Surely not for what has happened to
them in the West Bank for the last forty years pursuant to the racist
public policy of the Israeli government.
While in
> Greece there were just now lots riots , lots of shops dammaged, do you
> think the Greece government is going to compensate the Shop owners all
> over Greece?
> mirjam
The questions are of crime and punishment. And of racist public
policy. And of ethnic cleansing. And of American complicity. And of
the corruption of the American Congress. You're looking through the
wrong end of the telescope.
HHW
> Beat, bomb and blast the muslime pigs out of Israel.
We can't accuse you of elegant expression, but you define Israeli
policy perfectly well. It is racist. The only problem is that the West
Bank is Palestine, not Israel. The entire globe is agreed to that
excepting only the Zionist state and her domestic American lobby.
HHW
Bugger off, Eli. You're not being read and deserve that status.
HHW
Bugger off, Eli. You're just filthy background noise.
HHW
> On Dec 14, 12:12 am, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
>
> > Strange!!! that Nobody here writes how the representitives of our
> > Israeli government , visited EACH house hold that claimed to have Any
> > Dammge, and after evaluating it they will get compensastion.
>
> Heavens! I am sure HHW feels simply terrible for omitting that! Don't
> you, H?
> C'mon, don't be shy, speak up!
I've done that, hypocrite.
HHW
> On Dec 14, 1:54 am, American Eagle <A...@USA.com> wrote:
>
> > I agree that all Muslims should leave Israel. That way when we find it
> > necessary to Nuke Israel,
>
> who's "we"?
>
> we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
punishment.
drahcir
H, you need to read more carefully before replying. The line to which
you sent your reply was actually posted by "American" Eagle. I realize
that, in your condition, confusion is the normal state of affairs. If
you can get yourself to realize that, you will make fewer errors. So,
is there any logic as to whether you are HHW or Cazador?
HHW
> On Dec 14, 10:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Dec 14, 7:46 am, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 14, 1:54 am, American Eagle <A...@USA.com> wrote:
>
> > > > I agree that all Muslims should leave Israel. That way when we find it
> > > > necessary to Nuke Israel,
>
> > > who's "we"?
>
> > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> > The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
> > punishment.
>
> H, you need to read more carefully before replying. The line to which
> you sent your reply was actually posted by "American" Eagle.
It wasn't a reply. It was a comment, about you. That was so obvious
that you got the drift. "The last things you're interested are
matters of crime and punishment." I might add that when israel is
involved you have no recognizable sense of justice at all.
I realize
> that, in your condition, confusion is the normal state of affairs. If
> you can get yourself to realize that, you will make fewer errors. So,
> is there any logic as to whether you are HHW or Cazador?
I'm am both. Study Spanish. It will be good for your shriveled soul.
I look forward to your considered replies to this mornings work,
Ratner.
Eli Grubman
Oh, do shut up. People like you give 'anti-semitism'® a bad name.
Eli
drahcir
> On Dec 14, 10:01 am, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 10:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Dec 14, 7:46 am, drahcir <justrichardsmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Dec 14, 1:54 am, American Eagle <A...@USA.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I agree that all Muslims should leave Israel. That way when we find it
> > > > > necessary to Nuke Israel,
>
> > > > who's "we"?
>
> > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> > > The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
> > > punishment.
>
> > H, you need to read more carefully before replying. The line to which
> > you sent your reply was actually posted by "American" Eagle.
>
> It wasn't a reply. It was a comment, about you.
And here we have yet another example of the HHW dance. That's when the
oaf does something stupid, and instead of simply admitting it and
moving on, he tries to lie his way out of it. A classic example is
when he got himself so befuddled he forgot about whom he posted a Tony
Judt review. Instead of simply admitting he made an error, he went
through the most hilarious contortions to try to extricate himself.
The same will now occur. He says
> > > The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
> > > punishment.
was not a reply to
> > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
(We should note that the above line, written by "American" Eagle, and
quoted in my reply to him, lacked the greater-than sign denoting a
quotation, in my reply. This often occurs when a reply is inserted
into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
context to avoid making errors.)
So, now H wants readers to believe that somehow, out of the blue, he
was motivated to lecture me about crime and punishment, and that it
had nothing whatever to do with him thinking that I said
> > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
Uh-huh......
That was so obvious
> that you got the drift. "The last things you're interested are
> matters of crime and punishment." I might add that when israel is
> involved you have no recognizable sense of justice at all.
When H is doing his dance, he often makes no sense, as per the above.
Even after numerous similar instances, I still don't know if that is
by design - trying to cloud the issue with gibberish, or simply the
result of panic.
>
> I realize
>
> > that, in your condition, confusion is the normal state of affairs. If
> > you can get yourself to realize that, you will make fewer errors. So,
> > is there any logic as to whether you are HHW or Cazador?
>
> I'm am both. Study Spanish. It will be good for your shriveled soul.
No time, sorry. I looked it up - I get it. That's really not the
issue, H. The issue is why you felt compelled to design another alias.
Trying to escape your record of oafish errors?
>
> I look forward to your considered replies to this mornings work,
> Ratner.
Translation: H knows he stepped in doodoo and dreads what will come
next.
Poor Eli Grabmen is a Real Psychopath! LOL
I think he, too, like many others, considers you to be just a plain retard,
psychopath Grabmen.
Maybe it's time for you now to set out proving that you are not! Please do
that and let's watch THAT spectacle! I promise, I won't laugh at you! LMAO!
Doctor Panta
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HHW
Indeed.
HHW
It doesn't denote quotation at all. It denotes simply an earlier post.
This often occurs when a reply is inserted
> into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
> lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
> context to avoid making errors.)
The context was perfectly relevant. It was your post, not "Eagle's".
And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem. You need
to read your posts before sending them. And the comment was obviously
directed to you, Ratner. You have no moral sense whatever. The law
follows moral standards. It was precisely on point.
> So, now H wants readers to believe that somehow, out of the blue, he
> was motivated to lecture me about crime and punishment, and that it
> had nothing whatever to do with him thinking that I said
>
> > > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> Uh-huh......
>
> That was so obvious
>
> > that you got the drift. "The last things you're interested are
> > matters of crime and punishment." I might add that when israel is
> > involved you have no recognizable sense of justice at all.
>
> When H is doing his dance, he often makes no sense, as per the above.
It's a simple statement of fact about you. There's no dance in it
whatever. Here's a little test for you. Would you like to discuss what
I said further?
> Even after numerous similar instances, I still don't know if that is
> by design - trying to cloud the issue with gibberish, or simply the
> result of panic.
It's neither. Both comments are descriptive of Richard Ratner of
Somerville, Mass.
>
>
>
> > I realize
>
> > > that, in your condition, confusion is the normal state of affairs. If
> > > you can get yourself to realize that, you will make fewer errors. So,
> > > is there any logic as to whether you are HHW or Cazador?
>
> > I'm am both. Study Spanish. It will be good for your shriveled soul.
>
> No time, sorry.
You have plenty of time. You don't work.
I looked it up - I get it. That's really not the
> issue, H.
Then, fool, why did you raise it?
The issue is why you felt compelled to design another alias.
> Trying to escape your record of oafish errors?
Perhaps you can explain how I would go from a pseudonym to my own name
to escape something? Do you ever think before you type?
> > I look forward to your considered replies to this mornings work,
> > Ratner.
>
> Translation: H knows he stepped in doodoo and dreads what will come
> next.
Translation: There will be no considered replies from the extremely
insecure Miss Richard Ratner of Somerville, Mass.
drahcir
Supremely stupid comment.
>
> This often occurs when a reply is inserted
>
> > into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
> > lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
> > context to avoid making errors.)
>
> The context was perfectly relevant. It was your post, not "Eagle's".
> And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
Um, no, it's your problem. You didn't pay attention to context. The
quote as you replied to it made no sense coming from me. I wrote two
words, replying to "American" Eagle's proposal that "we" nuke Israel:
> who's "we"?
What followed was the remainder of AE's line:
> we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
You saw that line and on a hair-trigger, fired off this supremely
stupid response:
> The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
> punishment.
After denying that it was a reply, now you want to say that yes, in
fact it was a reply, but the fact that you are too stupid to follow a
thread is somehow my fault:
> And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
I'll let this one go, H - everything is clear here.
You need
> to read your posts before sending them. And the comment was obviously
> directed to you, Ratner. You have no moral sense whatever. The law
> follows moral standards. It was precisely on point.
The HHW dance continues. Blahblah to try to extricate himself from his
stupidity.
>
> > So, now H wants readers to believe that somehow, out of the blue, he
> > was motivated to lecture me about crime and punishment, and that it
> > had nothing whatever to do with him thinking that I said
>
> > > > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> > Uh-huh......
>
> > That was so obvious
>
> > > that you got the drift. "The last things you're interested are
> > > matters of crime and punishment." I might add that when israel is
> > > involved you have no recognizable sense of justice at all.
>
> > When H is doing his dance, he often makes no sense, as per the above.
>
> It's a simple statement of fact about you. There's no dance in it
> whatever. Here's a little test for you. Would you like to discuss what
> I said further?
You made a ridiculously oafish error. You're in no position to
administer tests.
>
> > Even after numerous similar instances, I still don't know if that is
> > by design - trying to cloud the issue with gibberish, or simply the
> > result of panic.
>
> It's neither. Both comments are descriptive of Richard Ratner of
> Somerville, Mass.
He finally learned how to spell "Somerville". Notice how this little
creep, in frustrated anger at me, posts my personal information,
because he has nowhere else to go. Good, you lash out, H, let all the
bad stuff go.
>
>
>
> > > I realize
>
> > > > that, in your condition, confusion is the normal state of affairs. If
> > > > you can get yourself to realize that, you will make fewer errors. So,
> > > > is there any logic as to whether you are HHW or Cazador?
>
> > > I'm am both. Study Spanish. It will be good for your shriveled soul.
>
> > No time, sorry.
>
> You have plenty of time. You don't work.
The masturbator can't last for long without indulging in his pastime.
>
> I looked it up - I get it. That's really not the
>
> > issue, H.
>
> Then, fool, why did you raise it?
Why do you ask a question that is answered in the same line in which
you ask? Oh, and H, why don't you look just here in the post of yours
that this reply addresses. You will see that because you inserted your
above, silly question mid-line, the greater-than sign from the line
just below, starting "The issue", is missing. Unlike you, I am
intelligent enough to realize that you did not write it.
>
> The issue is why you felt compelled to design another alias.
> > Trying to escape your record of oafish errors?
>
> Perhaps you can explain how I would go from a pseudonym to my own name
> to escape something? Do you ever think before you type?
People assume different aliases for different reasons. It's nearly
always to hide something. The translation from spanish is irrelevant.
>
> > > I look forward to your considered replies to this mornings work,
> > > Ratner.
>
> > Translation: H knows he stepped in doodoo and dreads what will come
> > next.
>
> Translation: There will be no considered replies from the extremely
> insecure Miss Richard Ratner of Somerville, Mass.
See above.
HHW
You can't refute it. You didn't delete it and you didn't put quotes on
it. The only logical conclusion is that they were your words.
> > This often occurs when a reply is inserted
>
> > > into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
> > > lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
> > > context to avoid making errors.)
>
> > The context made it perfectly relevant. It was your post, not "Eagle's".
> > And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
>
> Um, no, it's your problem. You didn't pay attention to context. The
> quote as you replied to it made no sense coming from me.
You often make no sense as was recently the case when ineptly
criticized a syllogistic proof for lack of "support" or some such
thing.
I wrote two
> words, replying to "American" Eagle's proposal that "we" nuke Israel:
>
> > who's "we"?
>
> What followed was the remainder of AE's line:
>
> > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> You saw that line and on a hair-trigger, fired off this supremely
> stupid response:
>
> > The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
> > punishment.
That's perfectly relevant and supported by your history of amoral
behavior on this very board.
>
> After denying that it was a reply, now you want to say that yes, in
> fact it was a reply, but the fact that you are too stupid to follow a
> thread is somehow my fault:
>
> > And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
>
> I'll let this one go, H - everything is clear here.
You're no "letting it go," you're avoiding having to defend what I
say.
>
> You need
>
> > to read your posts before sending them. And the comment was obviously
> > directed to you, Ratner. You have no moral sense whatever. The law
> > follows moral standards. It was precisely on point.
>
> The HHW dance continues. Blahblah to try to extricate himself from his
> stupidity.
Your Blahblah is always smoke covering something to which you dare not
respond.
> > > So, now H wants readers to believe that somehow, out of the blue, he
> > > was motivated to lecture me about crime and punishment, and that it
> > > had nothing whatever to do with him thinking that I said
>
> > > > > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> > > Uh-huh......
>
> > > That was so obvious
>
> > > > that you got the drift. "The last things you're interested are
> > > > matters of crime and punishment." I might add that when israel is
> > > > involved you have no recognizable sense of justice at all.
>
> > > When H is doing his dance, he often makes no sense, as per the above.
It's an inductive process which yields relative certainly, Ratner. You
can of course review the data yourself.
>
> > It's a simple statement of fact about you. There's no dance in it
> > whatever. Here's a little test for you. Would you like to discuss what
> > I said further?
>
> You made a ridiculously oafish error. You're in no position to
> administer tests.
Fool, it was a question, not a test.
>
>
>
> > > Even after numerous similar instances, I still don't know if that is
> > > by design - trying to cloud the issue with gibberish, or simply the
> > > result of panic.
>
> > It's neither. Both comments are descriptive of Richard Ratner of
> > Somerville, Mass.
>
> He finally learned how to spell "Somerville". Notice how this little
> creep, in frustrated anger at me, posts my personal information,
> because he has nowhere else to go. Good, you lash out, H, let all the
> bad stuff go.
You can behave in civil fashion and I'll be happy to do so too. Just
let us know.
>
>
>
> > > > I realize
>
> > > > > that, in your condition, confusion is the normal state of affairs. If
> > > > > you can get yourself to realize that, you will make fewer errors. So,
> > > > > is there any logic as to whether you are HHW or Cazador?
>
> > > > I'm am both. Study Spanish. It will be good for your shriveled soul.
>
> > > No time, sorry.
>
> > You have plenty of time. You don't work.
>
> The masturbator can't last for long without indulging in his pastime.
> > I looked it up - I get it. That's really not the
>
> > > issue, H.
>
> > Then, fool, why did you raise it?
>
> Why do you ask a question that is answered in the same line in which
> you ask? Oh, and H, why don't you look just here in the post of yours
> that this reply addresses. You will see that because you inserted your
> above, silly question mid-line, the greater-than sign from the line
> just below, starting "The issue", is missing. Unlike you, I am
> intelligent enough to realize that you did not write it.
No,, Missie Ratner, not near intelligent enough. You don't know when
to stop self-destructive behavior.
drahcir
It is so stupid, it's hardly worth the time, but if you insist:
I said
> > > > (We should note that the above line, written by "American" Eagle, and
> > > > quoted in my reply to him, lacked the greater-than sign denoting a
> > > > quotation, in my reply.
to which your hilariously stupid reply was
> > > It doesn't denote quotation at all. It denotes simply an earlier post.
"Quote" is defined as
1. to repeat (a passage, phrase, etc.) from a book, speech, or the
like, as by way of authority, illustration, etc.
2. to repeat words from (a book, author, etc.).
which is exactly what the ">" indicates - that the line following the
">" is REPEATED from an earlier post.
Ok? DO YOU GET IT NOW?
You didn't delete it and you didn't put quotes on
> it. The only logical conclusion is that they were your words.
Can anyone believe this guy? First you tried to claim it wasn't a
reply. Then when I shamed you into realizing how absurd that lie was,
here you are trying to say the fact that you are too stupid to follow
a thread is MY fault, even though the way in which I reply is
precisely the same as nearly all posters do, AND I PROVED BELOW THAT
YOU DID THE EXACT SAME THING WHEN YOU INSERTED YOUR REPLY INTO A
QUOTED PASSAGE MIDLINE.
We have here yet another example of the incredible imbecile HHW, who
is too senile to follow a thread, dancing around, desperately trying
to distract from his error. Amazing how consistent this fool is.
>
> > > This often occurs when a reply is inserted
>
> > > > into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
> > > > lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
> > > > context to avoid making errors.)
>
> > > The context made it perfectly relevant. It was your post, not "Eagle's".
> > > And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> > > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
>
> > Um, no, it's your problem. You didn't pay attention to context. The
> > quote as you replied to it made no sense coming from me.
>
> You often make no sense as was recently the case when ineptly
> criticized a syllogistic proof for lack of "support" or some such
> thing.
H's alzheimic imagination at work.
>
> I wrote two
>
> > words, replying to "American" Eagle's proposal that "we" nuke Israel:
>
> > > who's "we"?
>
> > What followed was the remainder of AE's line:
>
> > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> > You saw that line and on a hair-trigger, fired off this supremely
> > stupid response:
>
> > > The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
> > > punishment.
>
> That's perfectly relevant and supported by your history of amoral
> behavior on this very board.
Maybe it's perfectly relevant, BUT IT'S PERFECTLY RELEVANT TO
SOMETHING AMERICAN EAGLE SAID, NOT I. Again H, in his Alzheimic
stupor, thinks he can try to change the subject from his ridiculous
stupidity and subsequent lie-filled dance to try to distract from it,
to some contrived justification for his stupid error.
>
> > After denying that it was a reply, now you want to say that yes, in
> > fact it was a reply, but the fact that you are too stupid to follow a
> > thread is somehow my fault:
>
> > > And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> > > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
>
> > I'll let this one go, H - everything is clear here.
>
> You're no "letting it go," you're avoiding having to defend what I
> say.
Pssst - here's a newsflash for ya: I don't need to defend what you
say, YOU DO! The fact is, what you say is far too stupid to be
defended, so save yourself some time and don't bother trying. That you
could in fact say
> > > And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> > > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
when the "language in my post" was a quotation, perceivable as such by
all except you, really boggles the mind, especially given the fact
that many posts contain quotes unprefaced by ">" at times, INCLUDING
YOURS, AS I PROVED. Anyone with an IQ of more than 50 can compensate.
Of course, that apparently lets you out.
>
>
>
> > You need
>
> > > to read your posts before sending them. And the comment was obviously
> > > directed to you, Ratner. You have no moral sense whatever. The law
> > > follows moral standards. It was precisely on point.
>
> > The HHW dance continues. Blahblah to try to extricate himself from his
> > stupidity.
>
> Your Blahblah is always smoke covering something to which you dare not
> respond.
H the masturbator talking about "daring". It's too pathetic for words.
> > > > So, now H wants readers to believe that somehow, out of the blue, he
> > > > was motivated to lecture me about crime and punishment, and that it
> > > > had nothing whatever to do with him thinking that I said
>
> > > > > > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
>
> > > > Uh-huh......
>
> > > > That was so obvious
>
> > > > > that you got the drift. "The last things you're interested are
> > > > > matters of crime and punishment." I might add that when israel is
> > > > > involved you have no recognizable sense of justice at all.
>
> > > > When H is doing his dance, he often makes no sense, as per the above.
>
> It's an inductive process which yields relative certainly, Ratner. You
> can of course review the data yourself.
>
H is in some sort of fantasy denial, no doubt tequila-induced. The
facts are clear, oaf. You screwed up, then tried to lie about it, and
when that failed, you began your dance, which I believe brings us to
date.
>
> > > It's a simple statement of fact about you. There's no dance in it
> > > whatever. Here's a little test for you. Would you like to discuss what
> > > I said further?
>
> > You made a ridiculously oafish error. You're in no position to
> > administer tests.
>
> Fool, it was a question, not a test.
This is really getting funny. Your words from TWO LINES UP:
> Here's a little test for you.
So, H, please, the enquiring minds of this group want to know, is it a
test or isn't it? Or perhaps does it depend on your mood? Your level
of intoxication? How recently you took your alzheimers meds?
>
>
> > > > Even after numerous similar instances, I still don't know if that is
> > > > by design - trying to cloud the issue with gibberish, or simply the
> > > > result of panic.
>
> > > It's neither. Both comments are descriptive of Richard Ratner of
> > > Somerville, Mass.
>
> > He finally learned how to spell "Somerville". Notice how this little
> > creep, in frustrated anger at me, posts my personal information,
> > because he has nowhere else to go. Good, you lash out, H, let all the
> > bad stuff go.
>
> You can behave in civil fashion and I'll be happy to do so too. Just
> let us know.
That's ok, H. You do whatever you need to to make all the hurt go
away.
>
> > > > I realize
>
> > > > > > that, in your condition, confusion is the normal state of affairs. If
> > > > > > you can get yourself to realize that, you will make fewer errors. So,
> > > > > > is there any logic as to whether you are HHW or Cazador?
>
> > > > > I'm am both. Study Spanish. It will be good for your shriveled soul.
>
> > > > No time, sorry.
>
> > > You have plenty of time. You don't work.
>
> > The masturbator can't last for long without indulging in his pastime.
> > > I looked it up - I get it. That's really not the
>
> > > > issue, H.
>
> > > Then, fool, why did you raise it?
>
> > Why do you ask a question that is answered in the same line in which
> > you ask? Oh, and H, why don't you look just here in the post of yours
> > that this reply addresses. You will see that because you inserted your
> > above, silly question mid-line, the greater-than sign from the line
> > just below, starting "The issue", is missing. Unlike you, I am
> > intelligent enough to realize that you did not write it.
>
> No,, Missie Ratner, not near intelligent enough.
Well, I don't quite see how that's possible. Since I stated that you
did not write it, obviously I am intelligent enough to realize that
you did not write it. Maybe all you need is to sleep it off.
You don't know when
> to stop self-destructive behavior.
>
More blahblah that does not address the fact that you did PRECISELY
what you above try to claim is an issue with me, namely break a quoted
line without inserting another ">" or otherwise denoting that the
remainder of the line is a quote.
drahcir
<snip for focus>
Just to recap, we have been discussing the below:
+++++++++++++
++++++++++++++++
Let's ignore the ridiculousness of the above sentence. What is
important is just below. As you can see, the first line there has only
one ">", whereas the rest of the quote of me has two. This is because
H inserted his above brilliant observation midline into my post. That
which remained had no ">".
>
> This often occurs when a reply is inserted
>
> > into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
> > lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
> > context to avoid making errors.)
The original looks like this, a cut-and-paste from H's reply of
December 15. In it, my lines should all be prefaced with ">":
*****************
> (We should note that the above line, written by "American" Eagle, and
> quoted in my reply to him, lacked the greater-than sign denoting a
> quotation, in my reply.
It doesn't denote quotation at all. It denotes simply an earlier post.
This often occurs when a reply is inserted
> into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
> lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
> context to avoid making errors.)
*************
As you can see, the line beginning "This often occurs" is written by
me, but has no ">". A normally functioning individual will discern by
context who wrote what. This is beyond our poor H.
>
> The context was perfectly relevant. It was your post, not "Eagle's".
> And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem. You need
> to read your posts before sending them.
<snip for focus>
Now one can clearly view what a befuddled oaf our poor H is. Here he
is, above lecturing me for the exact same thing he did numerous times,
as does practically every poster on usenet. It is simply his way of
trying to foist blame for his utter ineptitude onto me. I will show
him one more example below.
>
<snip for focus>
>
> I looked it up - I get it. That's really not the
>
> > issue, H.
>
> Then, fool, why did you raise it?
>
> The issue is why you felt compelled to design another alias.
>
> > Trying to escape your record of oafish errors?
Not to belabor this, but above H did the same thing. In this reply,
quotes from my former reply have 2 >'s. The line above beginning "The
issue" has only one - that's because H again inserted his comment
midline. Here's a cut-and-paste of the original, again from H's reply
of December 15:
**********
> No time, sorry.
You have plenty of time. You don't work.
I looked it up - I get it. That's really not the
> issue, H.
Then, fool, why did you raise it?
The issue is why you felt compelled to design another alias.
> Trying to escape your record of oafish errors?
**************
In this copy of his reply, my lines should all have one ">" in front
of them. Due to his midline insertions, my lines beginning "I looked
it up" and "The issue" lack the ">". Of course, this is the very
"crime" he is accusing me of. Again all readers except H are perfectly
able to realize these are my lines, not his.
<snip>
ßÇDoügs
news:13b750f4-f750-460a...@x38g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
On Dec 14, 9:15 am, Patriot <Patr...@Mil.gob> wrote:
> drahcir wrote:
> > On Dec 14, 1:54 am, American Eagle <A...@USA.com> wrote:
> >> I agree that all Muslims should leave Israel. That way when we find it
> >> necessary to Nuke Israel,
>
> > who's "we"?
>
> That is real America,
Translation: it's a fun, imaginary place.
Not a fucking traitor like you. Richard, your a
> loser even here.
Hmm, "your a loser", might this be Ben in disguise? When will you
master "your" and "you're"? Here's the deal, Ben. So long as you make
fundamental grammatical errors, you give yourself away as an imbecile.
If getting a fourth grade issue right is completely beyond you, what
are the chances that you will have developed a valid outlook on any
complex issue? I am sure you will agree that the above reasoning is
flawless. The conclusion one must draw is, if you want to help your
cause, you should stand by Israel on any issue - people reading that
will think hey, if Ben is for israel, and Ben is always wrong because
he's an imbecile, I'd better reassess.
*****************************
He's either an inbred Ahmed or a lobotomized ne0-nazi.
HHW
I'm kind enough not to.
> I said
>
> > > > > (We should note that the above line, written by "American" Eagle, and
> > > > > quoted in my reply to him, lacked the greater-than sign denoting a
> > > > > quotation, in my reply.
Indeed, you did not utilize quotes or the greater-than sign. It was a
screw up.
>
> to which your hilariously stupid reply was
>
> > > > It doesn't denote quotation at all. It denotes simply an earlier post.
>
> "Quote" is defined as
>
> 1. to repeat (a passage, phrase, etc.) from a book, speech, or the
> like, as by way of authority, illustration, etc.
And how does one indicate that a repetition is such? With quotes of
course---or as you acknowledge with the greater than sign, neither of
which you used. When neither is used the reader is free to presume
it's your language. He can take you at your word. Even when you've
screwed up.
> 2. to repeat words from (a book, author, etc.).
You're repeating yourself. What you omit both times is how quotes are
indicated as such to the reader.
>
> which is exactly what the ">" indicates - that the line following the
> ">" is REPEATED from an earlier post.
Yes but when you repeated the language you did not utilize the ">" or
quotation marks.
>
> Ok? DO YOU GET IT NOW? Yes, you screwed up.
>
> You didn't delete it and you didn't put quotes on
>
> > it. The only logical conclusion is that they were your words.
>
> Can anyone believe this guy? First you tried to claim it wasn't a
> reply. Then when I shamed you into realizing how absurd that lie was,
> here you are trying to say the fact that you are too stupid to follow
> a thread is MY fault, even though the way in which I reply is
> precisely the same as nearly all posters do,
Nearly all posters screw up in your fashion? I rather doubt it.
AND I PROVED BELOW THAT
> YOU DID THE EXACT SAME THING WHEN YOU INSERTED YOUR REPLY INTO A
> QUOTED PASSAGE MIDLINE.
Oh, so you're trying to escape your admitted blunder by blaming it on
me? Hilarious.
> We have here yet another example of the incredible imbecile HHW, who
> is too senile to follow a thread, dancing around, desperately trying
> to distract from his error. Amazing how consistent this fool is.
No, what we have is yet another example of Richard Ratner, the
excrement expert, begetting another mess and then dissolving into
hysterics.
>
>
>
> > > > This often occurs when a reply is inserted
>
> > > > > into the middle of a quoted line - the part after the insertion will
> > > > > lack the ">" in the reply. Thus, a person must actually READ the
> > > > > context to avoid making errors.)
>
> > > > The context made it perfectly relevant. It was your post, not "Eagle's".
> > > > And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> > > > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
>
> > > Um, no, it's your problem. You didn't pay attention to context. The
> > > quote as you replied to it made no sense coming from me.
But THAT's your problem now isn't it? Perhaps you'll learn to use the
traditional rules of punctuation. You don't deserve any kind of break
from me.
>
> > You often make no sense as was recently the case when you ineptly
> > criticized a syllogistic proof for lack of "support" or some such
> > thing.
>
> H's alzheimic imagination at work.
No, Miss Ratner, you can't escape like that. You're incapable of
understanding the principles involved. It's that simple. I do. You
don't. I explained it lucidly. You changed the subject.
>
>
>
> > I wrote two
>
> > > words, replying to "American" Eagle's proposal that "we" nuke Israel:
>
> > > > who's "we"?
>
> > > What followed was the remainder of AE's line:
>
> > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
If you wanted it to be seen as a quotation you had two options to
follow, " or >. You screwed up. My question remains unanswered. Who's
"we", Ratner? If you're stupid enough to get yourself into this mess
and will only try to escape with your typical ad hom filth, I'll
continue to insist you answer it.
>
> > > You saw that line and on a hair-trigger, fired off this supremely
> > > stupid response:
>
> > > > The last things you're interested in are matters of crime and
> > > > punishment.
>
> > That's perfectly relevant and supported by your history of amoral
> > behavior on this very board.
>
> Maybe it's perfectly relevant, BUT IT'S PERFECTLY RELEVANT TO
> SOMETHING AMERICAN EAGLE SAID, NOT I.
I have no obligation to give you even the slightest pass on your screw
ups and your hysterics won't change my mind.
Again H, in his Alzheimic
> stupor, thinks he can try to change the subject from his ridiculous
> stupidity and subsequent lie-filled dance to try to distract from it,
> to some contrived justification for his stupid error.
Who's we, Ratner? Either admit you screwed up or answer the question.
>
>
>
> > > After denying that it was a reply, now you want to say that yes, in
> > > fact it was a reply, but the fact that you are too stupid to follow a
> > > thread is somehow my fault:
>
> > > > And if you're not going to stand behind language in your post
> > > > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
Succinct, eh?
> > > I'll let this one go, H - everything is clear here.
>
> > You're not "letting it go," you're avoiding having to defend what I
> > say.
>
> Pssst - here's a newsflash for ya: I don't need to defend what you
> say, YOU DO!
I'll make it clearer for you. You're not "letting it go." You're
avoiding having to defend against my argument, my demonstration of
your screw up.
The fact is, what you say is far too stupid to be
> defended, so save yourself some time and don't bother trying. That you
> could in fact say
You can't defend it. You're a screw up and more and more important, an
hysteric. You also make the most stupid choices of things to fight
over. It's the sign of one who can't face the genuine issues. You're a
weakling, Miss Ratner.
>
> > > > And if you're not going to stand behind the language in your post
> > > > which is not identified as someone else's it's your problem.
>
> when the "language in my post" was a quotation, perceivable as such by
> all except you, really boggles the mind, especially given the fact
> that many posts contain quotes unprefaced by ">" at times, INCLUDING
> YOURS, AS I PROVED. Anyone with an IQ of more than 50 can compensate.
> Of course, that apparently lets you out.
Your suppressed premise is that I have an obligation to help you out
when you screw up. I'm supposed to come to your aid. That's nonsense.
We're enemies. No quarter Ratner. It can only get worse unless you
decide to change the filthy game you're playing.
>
>
>
> > > You need
>
> > > > to read your posts before sending them. And the comment was obviously
> > > > directed to you, Ratner. You have no moral sense whatever. The law
> > > > follows moral standards. It was precisely on point.
>
> > > The HHW dance continues. Blahblah to try to extricate himself from his
> > > stupidity.
>
> > Your Blahblah is always smoke covering something to which you dare not
> > respond.
>
> H the masturbator talking about "daring". It's too pathetic for words.
Ratner, need I remind you here of the context for your having won the
title of "excrement expert".
>
> > > > > So, now H wants readers to believe that somehow, out of the blue, he
> > > > > was motivated to lecture me about crime and punishment, and that it
> > > > > had nothing whatever to do with him thinking that I said
> > > > > > > > > we won't hit any innocent people. I do so hope
It was perfectly appropriate in the context *you created* by screwing
up on a matter of elementary punctuation and thus presenting Mr.
Eagle's words as your own. My reference to your abominable
insensitivity to the suffering of the Palestinian people was the least
I could do for the cause of Palestinian -- and American --
independence from Israel.
>
> > > > > Uh-huh......
I love it when you make admissions.
> > > > > That was so obvious
>
> > > > > > that you got the drift. "The last things you're interested are
> > > > > > matters of crime and punishment." I might add that when israel is
> > > > > > involved you have no recognizable sense of justice at all.
>
> > > > > When H is doing his dance, he often makes no sense, as per the above.
I've made perfect sense. You've screwed up and simply made it worse by
trying to deny it.
> > It's an inductive process which yields relative certainly, Ratner. You
> > can of course review the data yourself.
>
> H is in some sort of fantasy denial, no doubt tequila-induced.
You are incapable of understanding the essential nature of the
scientific method. Shall I renew the fundamentals for you again? Maybe
the second time will be a charm.
The
> facts are clear, oaf. You screwed up, then tried to lie about it, and
> when that failed, you began your dance, which I believe brings us to
> date.
When you failed to indicate in *your* post that the passage was not
yours but Mr. Eagle's by enclosing it in quotations, you created the
present mess you're in. No enemy of yours is required to search for
contextual clues in an effort to absolve you of your constant errors,
Ratner. No quarter, no gifts for you.
>
>
>
> > > > It's a simple statement of fact about you. There's no dance in it
> > > > whatever. Here's a little test for you. Would you like to discuss what
> > > > I said further?
>
> > > You made a ridiculously oafish error. You're in no position to
> > > administer tests.
Of course I am. I already did. How could anyone doubt that you flunked
it. You avoided answering the question.
> > Fool, it was a question, not a test.
>
> This is really getting funny. Your words from TWO LINES UP:
>
> > Here's a little test for you.
>
> So, H, please, the enquiring minds of this group want to know, is it a
> test or isn't it?
It's a question obviously. Whether and how you answer is the test.
It's self-administered and you flunked.
Or perhaps does it depend on your mood?
You'll recall I'm not the feminine hysteric--
Your level
> of intoxication?
or much of a drinker. Another thing I am not is a devotee of any
radical, man-made political ideology designed in the 19th and 20th
Century fashion to justify crimes against humanity and at the same
time to lead to utopia for a certain class of people--and them
exclusively.
How recently you took your alzheimers meds?
A lot more relevant would be whether you are taking your aids meds.
What's your status on that score Miss Ratner?
>
>
>
> > > > > Even after numerous similar instances, I still don't know if that is
> > > > > by design - trying to cloud the issue with gibberish, or simply the
> > > > > result of panic.
>
> > > > It's neither. Both comments are descriptive of Richard Ratner of
> > > > Somerville, Mass.
>
> > > He finally learned how to spell "Somerville". Notice how this little
> > > creep, in frustrated anger at me, posts my personal information,
> > > because he has nowhere else to go. Good, you lash out, H, let all the
> > > bad stuff go.
>
> > You can behave in civil fashion and I'll be happy to do so too. Just
> > let us know.
>
> That's ok, H. You do whatever you need to to make all the hurt go
> away.
I'll take that as a refusal. What choice is there?
HHW
> On Dec 13, 10:16 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > From the bowels of hell
>
> heavens, stop the world. Yes, the settlers are crazy, hyper-religious
> their property, they should be dealt with, but of course, that remains
> not, there are shootings at 2 AM elsewhere besides Israel, in fact,
> once someone was shot right in Detroit!! Can you believe it? I will
> admit that damaging a solar water heater, why, that is something
> the big picture, which is that all this happened because Israeli
> justice has demanded that the settlers leave.
>
>
>
Watch this, bitch:
HHW
B.H. Cramer
>Watch this, bitch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaHOGdRGhwQ
He will now advise you it's a production of "Palliwood".
That's after he cleans himself up after watching it.
HHW
drahcir
WOW! AMAZING! HOW'D YOU DO THAT?
drahcir
I"ve replied to this video twice already. You can find them and read
them.
mir...@actcom.co.il
> On Dec 13, 11:12 pm, mir...@actcom.co.il wrote:
>
> > Strange!!! that Nobody here writes how the representitives of our
> > Israeli government , visited EACH house hold that claimed to have Any
> > Dammge, and after evaluating it they will get compensastion.
>
> them in the West Bank for the last forty years pursuant to the racist
> public policy of the Israeli government.
>
> While in
>
> > Greece there were just now lots riots , lots of shops dammaged, do you
> > think the Greece government is going to compensate the Shop owners all
> > over Greece?
>
> The questions are of crime and punishment. And of racist public
> policy. And of ethnic cleansing. And of American complicity. And of
> the corruption of the American Congress. You're looking through the
> wrong end of the telescope.
I see that you are an expert Racist .....
mirjam
B.H. Cramer
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You can talk, you disgusting zionazi piece of trash.
drahcir
You can talk, you disgusting nazi doodyhead.