Heschel's Unifying vision of Judaism
SergiuSimmel
Dear friends,
Twentieth century's great Jewish thinker and
leader ABRAHAM JOSHUA HESCHEL had, according to a
recent article by his student and Brandeis
Professor Reuven Kimelman, a unifying vision
about Jewish theology:
"The different expressions of Judaism are not
mutually exclusive, but rather moments in the
dialectic of humanity's encounter with G-d. Where
others saw dichotomies, he saw polarities. Our
inclination to understand Judaism or to approach
the Divine through only one of the poles leaves
us, according to Heschel, with partial
understandings of Judaism and fragmentary visions
of the divine. In contrast, Heschel's theology
offers a historical and conceptual framework for
maintaining the dialectic without reducing one
pole to the other."
As a gift to you and to introduce Reuven
Kimelman's precise, informative and greatly
synthetic teaching & writing, I have obtained the
publisher's permission for you to enjoy this
POWERFUL ARTICLE. Simply go to:
http://www.MoralBible.com/KimelmanOnHeschel/PJ
to gain access.
Enjoy,
Sergiu Simmel
Giorgies E Kepipesiom
They make you give them your email address before you can see the
artical. When you do get to the artical, it turns out to be two pages
of verbiage about an idea that could be expressed in two sentences.
Not worth the time it takes to download and read it. My advice is,
don't waste your time. Of course you don't have to take my advice. You
are free to waste your time and ignore my warning.
GEK
Itzhak Schier
wrote:
BS"D
This is a link to a commercial site and should not be allowed here.
SergiuSimmel
>
> BS"D
>
> This is a link to a commercial site and should not be allowed here.
The link leads to the page at either Tikkun Magazine (for the shorter
article) or The Journal of Jewish Thought and Philosophy (for the
expanded version). Yes, they are both commercial sites, because most
magazines, publications and books are published by businesses engaged
in the commerce of selling these magazines, publications and books.
Now, we obtained the permission to give you free access to articles
that otherwise you'd have to pay money to access (at least buy the
issues, or subscribe), in exchange for asking you to let us know who
you are. A fair exchange that everybody is free to accept or not.
Bottom line: the link in our article here did not land on a page that
sold you anything, or solicited any payment, etc. It is certainly up
to the moderators to decide what is allowed, and for posters to try
hard to keep postings within the group's guidelines, so that
moderators allow their postings in. I am highly & sincerely interested
in whether the moderators of this group consider my original posting
commercial. Please let me know.
Thank you, and Shabbat Shalom,
Sergiu Simmel
SergiuSimmel
wrote:
> They make you give them your email address before you can see the
> artical. When you do get to the artical, it turns out to be two pages
> of verbiage about an idea that could be expressed in two sentences.
> Not worth the time it takes to download and read it. My advice is,
> don't waste your time. Of course you don't have to take my advice. You
> are free to waste your time and ignore my warning.
>
> GEK
Dear Mr. Kepipesiom,
I am certainly respectful of your opinion about the article and its
value. It is also certainly the case that we received a wide range of
very congratulatory commentary from scholars and teachers worldwide on
the content.
However, let me get the facts straight: The page at:
http://www.MoralBible.com/KimelmanOnHeschel/PJ
offers not one but three pieces of Jewish learning:
(a) A 22' interview with Rabbi Reuven Kimelman about Heschel, which
you can listen to off the very page, without entering anything.
(b) Access to the general-purpose article published by Tikkun
Magazine, at no cost, which otherwise you'd have to pay for by
purchasing the magazine issue.
(c) Access to the expanded article published by The Journal of Jewish
Thought and Philosophy, again at no cost to you, which otherwise you'd
have to pay for. This is a much longer version, including footnotes
and references, mainly aimed at an academic audience.
We obtained the permission to share (b) and (c) with you from the
publishers at no cost to you. In exchange, we ask you to tell us who
you are, so we can be in touch. Fair exchange?
Again, I am sorry you did not enjoy Dr. Kimelman's article, and found
it trivial. Would be highly interested in those "two sentences" that
could ENTIRELY replace the body of the article, including its thesis,
the argumentation of its thesis, the historical setup, and the rest. I
promise I will forward this to Professor Kimelman.
Best regards and Shabbat Shalom,
Sergiu Simmel
Our Learning Company
Amitai
glanced through it and will read it at my leisure in due course,
footnotes and all. It is by no means trivial.
I knew Abraham Heschel Z"L quite well in Cincinnati in the early
1940's, when he was a young faculty member at HUC and I was a student
(not at HUC) half his age, but ran into him again just once, years
later, when he gave a guest lecture at Cornell University during my
sabbatical leave there.
The article will allow me - at long last - to familiarize myself with
Heschel's ideas without the necessity of reading his books, so I would
like to extend my thanks to Mr. Simmel for making it available. I must
admit, however, that I am less pleased with the immediate followup,
suggesting that I register for a course given by its author that
presumably is not free.
Amitai
P.S. In my cursory glance through the article I saw a comment that
Heschel was an "irenic polemicist". It would be salutary for this
newsgroup if the polemics on it were a shade more irenic.
A.
Don Levey
>
> The article will allow me - at long last - to familiarize myself with
> Heschel's ideas without the necessity of reading his books, so I would
> like to extend my thanks to Mr. Simmel for making it available. I must
> admit, however, that I am less pleased with the immediate followup,
> suggesting that I register for a course given by its author that
> presumably is not free.
>
It would also be nice if Mr Simmel (or Prof Kimelman) were to actually
participate in discussions here, rather than dropping in to hawk
articles/lectures and then immediately leaving.
--
Don Levey, Framingam MA If knowledge is power,
(email address in header works) and power corrupts, then...
NOTE: Don't send mail to to sal...@the-leveys.us
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Abe Kohen
"SergiuSimmel" <sergiu...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5538df21-ab71-4bad...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
(a) A 22' interview with Rabbi Reuven Kimelman about Heschel, which
you can listen to off the very page, without entering anything.
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Thank you. I will read the 32 page pdf later.
What is a 22' interview?
Shavua Tov,
Abe
Abe Kohen
"Amitai" <chr...@techunix.technion.ac.il> wrote in message
news:afd7834e-88c0-40c4...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
P.S. In my cursory glance through the article I saw a comment that
Heschel was an "irenic polemicist". It would be salutary for this
newsgroup if the polemics on it were a shade more irenic.
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Thank you Amitai. I had to look up the words. U-mikol m'lamdai askil.
Shavua Tov,
Abe
Giorgies E Kepipesiom
> "SergiuSimmel" <sergiu.sim...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:5538df21-ab71-4bad...@26g2000yqo.googlegroups.com...
>
> (a) A 22' interview with Rabbi Reuven Kimelman about Heschel, which
> you can listen to off the very page, without entering anything.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Thank you. I will read the 32 page pdf later.
>
> What is a 22' interview?
printed in 12-point Times New Roman single space, the printout is 22
feet long.
GEK
wishing good week and happy motzaei Zos Hannuka
Amitai
> "Amitai" <chr0...@techunix.technion.ac.il> wrote in message
>
> news:afd7834e-88c0-40c4...@p8g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
> P.S. In my cursory glance through the article I saw a comment that
> Heschel was an "irenic polemicist". It would be salutary for this
> newsgroup if the polemics on it were a shade more irenic.
>
> --------------------------------
>
> Thank you Amitai. I had to look up the words.
>
> U-mikol m'lamdai askil.
>
I trust that you don't mean this in the literal biblical sense. :-)
Amitai
> Shavua Tov,
> Abe
sheldonlg
That threw me for a second also. What is a 22 foot interview. Then I
realized that the apostrophe also means minutes and the quote also means
seconds (besides inches).
Yisroel Markov
<Don_...@the-leveys.us> said:
>Amitai wrote:
>>
>> The article will allow me - at long last - to familiarize myself with
>> Heschel's ideas without the necessity of reading his books, so I would
>> like to extend my thanks to Mr. Simmel for making it available. I must
>> admit, however, that I am less pleased with the immediate followup,
>> suggesting that I register for a course given by its author that
>> presumably is not free.
>>
>
>It would also be nice if Mr Simmel (or Prof Kimelman) were to actually
>participate in discussions here, rather than dropping in to hawk
>articles/lectures and then immediately leaving.
From what I know about Dr. Kimelman (he davens at my shul
occasionally), he wouldn't be very interested in most of the
discussions we're having here.
--
Yisroel "Godwrestler Warriorson" Markov - Boston, MA Member
www.reason.com -- for a sober analysis of the world DNRC
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Don Levey
> On Fri, 18 Dec 2009 16:18:35 +0000 (UTC), Don Levey
> <Don_...@the-leveys.us> said:
>
>> Amitai wrote:
>>> The article will allow me - at long last - to familiarize myself with
>>> Heschel's ideas without the necessity of reading his books, so I would
>>> like to extend my thanks to Mr. Simmel for making it available. I must
>>> admit, however, that I am less pleased with the immediate followup,
>>> suggesting that I register for a course given by its author that
>>> presumably is not free.
>>>
>> It would also be nice if Mr Simmel (or Prof Kimelman) were to actually
>> participate in discussions here, rather than dropping in to hawk
>> articles/lectures and then immediately leaving.
>
> From what I know about Dr. Kimelman (he davens at my shul
> occasionally), he wouldn't be very interested in most of the
> discussions we're having here.
Probably not. Personally, I find the "hit-and-run" a little irritating
- someone is coming in here and trying to drum up business for their
website (cost or no) but not at all interested in participating.