I was right to be cynical....
fla...@verizon.net
http://jta.org/news/article/2009/12/22/1009863/carter-grandsons-race-not-reason-enough-to-apologize
WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Jimmy Carter is asking the Jewish community for
forgiveness -- and insists it�s not simply because his grandson has decided
to launch a political career with a run for the Georgia state Senate.
Jason Carter, 34, an Atlanta-area lawyer, is considering a run to fill a
seat covering suburban DeKalb County should the incumbent, David Adelman,
win confirmation as President Obama's designated ambassador to Singapore.
The seat, which is university heavy -- Emory, among others, is situated
there -- also has a substantial Jewish community.
[end quote]
Everyone who believes him, stand on your heads!
Susan
Fattush
> ... but wrong as to the reason why Carter "apologized":
>
>
> WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Jimmy Carter is asking the Jewish community for
> forgiveness -- and insists it’s not simply because his grandson has decided
> to launch a political career with a run for the Georgia state Senate.
>
> Jason Carter, 34, an Atlanta-area lawyer, is considering a run to fill a
> seat covering suburban DeKalb County should the incumbent, David Adelman,
> win confirmation as President Obama's designated ambassador to Singapore.
>
> The seat, which is university heavy -- Emory, among others, is situated
> there -- also has a substantial Jewish community.
>
> [end quote]
>
> Everyone who believes him, stand on your heads!
>
> Susan
IMO former Pres. Carter's alleged apology should have nothing to do
with his grandson. They each must stand on his own two feet.
Dvora
FORGIVE THEM ?
Be Safe and Well --- Dvora
Fattush
> WHEN SOMEONE TRUELY ASKS FOR FORGIVENESS -- MUST THE INJURED PERSON
> FORGIVE THEM ?
AFAIK, no.
fla...@verizon.net
On 23-Dec-2009, Fattush <fatt...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> IMO former Pres. Carter's alleged apology should have nothing to do
> with his grandson. They each must stand on his own two feet.
Of course. But, the way I see it, Carter is saying a
lot more about himself than he is about his critics.
Susan
fla...@verizon.net
On 23-Dec-2009, Shalomf...@webtv.net (Dvora) wrote:
> WHEN SOMEONE TRUELY ASKS FOR FORGIVENESS -- MUST THE INJURED PERSON
> FORGIVE THEM ?
If it is a TRUE request - as in, the transgressor acually shows
how sorry he is, tries to make amends, he should be forgiven.
Such is not the case, ehere.
Susan
mm
(Dvora) wrote:
>WHEN SOMEONE TRUELY ASKS FOR FORGIVENESS -- MUST THE INJURED PERSON
>FORGIVE THEM ?
There is a tradition, rule, something or other (I wish Micha was here)
that after one has apologized and asked forgiveness 3 times, the
responsibility shifts to the person wronged, B. Maybe responsibility
is not the right word. I can't remember how it was phrased. It's B's
turn? I think what it means or maybe says) is that A is not obliged
to keep apologizing. If it means that B is obliged to forgive A, it
seems to me that would refer to little and medium things, not terrible
things.
Just like I said in another post that Xians don't have in mind
something really serious when they talk about [I forget] , this is an
example in Judaism where I believe the topic discussison also assumes
it's not something really serious. The topic woudl be something like
dropping and breaking a glass, borrowing and wrecking a car, saying
something rude, gossipping about someone maybe.
It doesn't mean I think that if A intentionally murders someone in B's
family, then after A apologizes 3 times, there is some responsiblity
on B to forgive him.
>
>Be Safe and Well --- Dvora
--
Meir
"The baby's name is Shlomo. He's named after his grandfather, Scott."
Joe Bruno
> ... but wrong as to the reason why Carter "apologized":
>
>
> WASHINGTON (JTA) -- Jimmy Carter is asking the Jewish community for
> forgiveness -- and insists it’s not simply because his grandson has decided
> to launch a political career with a run for the Georgia state Senate.
>
> Jason Carter, 34, an Atlanta-area lawyer, is considering a run to fill a
> seat covering suburban DeKalb County should the incumbent, David Adelman,
> win confirmation as President Obama's designated ambassador to Singapore.
>
> The seat, which is university heavy -- Emory, among others, is situated
> there -- also has a substantial Jewish community.
>
> [end quote]
>
> Everyone who believes him, stand on your heads!
>
> Susan
I'll accept his apology after he refunds all the salary we paid in
during his disastrous 4 years as President.
It was a clear case of fraud.