AIDS on the way to Japan
Charles M Richmond
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The sex tours have a bill that is coming due in Japan and all of the denial
in the world will only make the bill that much higher.
Charles Richmond
BANGKOK (UPI) -- Within eight years Thailand will have replaced
African countries at the top of the list of nations having the most
carriers of the virus that causes AIDS, an AIDS expert has predicted.
Virasit Sithitrai, a director of the Red Cross Aids Project in
Thailand, said at present there are between 600,000 and 800,000 HIV
cases in Thailand, which has a population of about 57 million, The
Nation newspaper reported Wednesday.
He predicted that within eight years Thailand will have the most HIV
carriers of any country in the world, including those of Africa, where
the disease is currently most prevalent.
Virasit told The Nation that currently 1.8 percent of Thai housewives
are HIV carriers, up from 1.4 percent in 1992, and the ratio of female
to male patients is two to one.
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Michael Fester
Charles M Richmond <c...@world.std.com> wrote:
>The sex tours have a bill that is coming due in Japan and all of the denial
>in the world will only make the bill that much higher.
> BANGKOK (UPI) -- Within eight years Thailand will have replaced
>African countries at the top of the list of nations having the most
>carriers of the virus that causes AIDS, an AIDS expert has predicted.
[Much deleted]
Several months ago, NHK reported that Japanese health officials have begun
to notice varieties of AIDs in Japan formerly reported only in Thailand.
While the overall incidence of AIDs has thus far remained extremely low,
they expect that situation will grow much worse, and placed much of the
blame on these tours.
Mike
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Eddy Robinson
> BANGKOK (UPI) -- Within eight years Thailand will have replaced
>African countries at the top of the list of nations having the most
>carriers of the virus that causes AIDS, an AIDS expert has predicted.
Sad :'-(
Baphomet
Rikiya Asano
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I did have a high respect for you even after you told me you were white
(I thought you were black). But, this post is so demeaning that I was
not wrong in my observation of your culture.
It is stooopid and insensative for you to indirectly say that AIDS will
come to Nihon via Thailand. AIDS is already in Nihon! And your attempt
to make Japanese racists on the incorrect fear that Thailand will bring
this disease to Nihon is out of line and very evil which is a
characteristic of your race! But, no matter how AIDS has got to Nihon
Thailand is not the cause. The cause was a person and persons who fail
to examine themselves and to protect themselves. So, it won't be the
fault of the Thails that your our trying to indirectly proclaim. (For
those of you who may not understand- Richmond say in the title of his
post- "AIDS on the way to Japan" but he posts an article of some kind
from some clown from the Red Cross that say Thailand will pass Africa in
AIDS cases. So, Richmond has mentally concluded that since Thail
Prostitute are being brought to Nippon, this is the way AIDS will come
to Nippon). But, the reality is that AIDS is already in Nippon. And,
this simple little ploy by Richmond to get as many Japanese "scared"
while they are in a preceieved voluntary economic position. But, it
won't work! Japanese know no to blame in one human group for this deadly
decease!
But, Richmond, like his culture, try to use something like this to
distract Japanese while smiling in their faces and telling of how much
he loves "Japan" and Japanese! hahahhahahhaha
hahahhahahahaa
ahahahahhahaaaa
ahahahahahahaah
ahahahhahahahaa
ahahahahahaahhaa!
All the while lying to you and spreading discord and hatred and racism!
Richmond, this is the oldest trick in the book! Japanese know that it
was mostly Japanese who brought AIDS to Nihon or the white
Americans/white Europeans! So, please take you lies back home! We won't
believe them here! Also, it won't work! Your supposed "love" for Nihon!
You love your "Japan"! It is impossible to love Nihon in your condition!
Frankly, I would even call you a liar if you were to say that you love
my country. You are too crafty and sneaky to love an Asian or an Asian
country! No lover wouls have spread the lies and discord that you tried
to spread with this post!
But, I knew your "true colors" for a long time!!!!
Henry Robertson
Rikiya Asano <ra...@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
[stoooooooooooooooooooopidity deleted]
Of course, blaming a given ethnicity for a disease is stupid. The truth
remains that lots of AIDS cases have been brought home by Japanese businessmen
on sex tours in Southeast Asia, or otherwise from prostitutes in Japan.
Or Japanese homosexuals returning from Western nations, or Western homosexuals
in Japan, or Japanese who received blood transfusions in foreign countries.
Japan imports a lot of blood, so now there are more Japanese hemophiliacs with
the HIV virus than anyone cares to admit. The Japanese culture of shame
prevents hemophiliacs from seeking help! And this is progress!?
Hahahahahahhhahaahahahaha
hahahaahahahahahahahahahah
aahahahahahahahahahaaha
You've shown your true anti-white colors all along, Leroy.
TED LOUIS GLENN
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|I did have a high respect for you even after you told me you were white
|(I thought you were black). But, this post is so demeaning that I was
|not wrong in my observation of your culture.
Boy oh boy. For someone who has repeatedly stated that he is not a
racist, the above statement seems pretty racist to me.
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Michiaki Masuda
>In article <CJLwC...@world.std.com>,
>Charles M Richmond <c...@world.std.com> wrote:
>>The sex tours have a bill that is coming due in Japan and all of the denial
>>in the world will only make the bill that much higher.
>
>> BANGKOK (UPI) -- Within eight years Thailand will have replaced
>>African countries at the top of the list of nations having the most
>>carriers of the virus that causes AIDS, an AIDS expert has predicted.
.....
>Several months ago, NHK reported that Japanese health officials have begun
>to notice varieties of AIDs in Japan formerly reported only in Thailand.
>While the overall incidence of AIDs has thus far remained extremely low,
>they expect that situation will grow much worse, and placed much of the
>blame on these tours.
Actually, the increase of the HIV carriers among prostitutes in the
South East Asia is no news to me. When I attended some virology meeting
in mid 80s, there was a rumor that WHO had already collected data which
suggested that a significant proportion of prostitutes in S.E.A. are
HIV-positive.
Another thing to be mentioned is that HIV is not originated in Thailand.
It is most likely that the strains of HIV found in S.E.A. came from
Africa. I am rather skeptical that the Japanese tourists contributed
so much to the transfer of HIV from Africa to Thailand. Probably,
there are many other non-Japanese tourists as well on whom blame
should be placed for the worldwide propagation of HIV.
Although it is sad news, the news of HIV transmission through
prostitution could have a positive influence on enlightening general
public that heterosexual sexual relationship is an important route of
virus infection.
The Japanese Ministry of Health and Welfare seems to have started a public
campaign by putting ads on magazines and other media. The ad that I saw
said, "HIV is not transmitted through the cotact in the normal daily
life. ... HIV can be transmitted through heterosexual intercourses. ..."
I guess a heterosexual intercourse is not a contact in the normal daily
life officially in Japan. B-)
--Michiaki
P.S. "S" of AIDS stands for "syndrome" and should be capitalized.
Rikiya Asano
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Your point is well taken. But, still this is a dangereous sickness. I
don't like the little toying with this. There is nothing to toy with.
People are dying because of this thing. And, I don't like people who
make light of this subject! This is serious and to complain about "sex
tours" to Thailand is not the way to inform people of the dangers of
this killer! In fact, I doubt if it was Mr. Richmonds intention to warn
as it seems as his intention to ridicule! But, that's my preception!
Michiaki Masuda
.....
>Japan imports a lot of blood, so now there are more Japanese hemophiliacs with
>the HIV virus than anyone cares to admit.
Just to set things straight.
Japan imported a lot of HIV-contaminated blood products, and now there
are quite a few HIV-positive hemophiliacs who have been treated with those
contaminated products. Some of these products could have been avoided
either by testing in the producing country or in Japan. HIV-contaminated
blood is said to have been used for industry for a few years even after the
HIV test was invented.
Right now, all the imported and domestic blood and blood products are
screened for HIV. Therefore, there is essentially no possibility of
infection through this route.
> The Japanese culture of shame
>prevents hemophiliacs from seeking help! And this is progress!?
Contrary to your belief, hemophilia patients are usually able to
receive routine medical help without which they cannot survive.
From a social point of view, it is true that many HIV-positive
hemophiliacs cannot receive much help just like other non-hemophiliac
HIV carriers. I'd assume that many HIV-positive hemophilia patients
are just hiding the fact that they are carriers.
However, there are also hemophiliac patients who are actively
participating in the social movements.
One social movement by the hemophiliac HIV carriers is a law suit
aginst a pharmaceutical company that sold HIV-contaminated imported blood
products without testing them and the Japanese government that failed to
require the testing. This parallels with the similar law suit in the US
and France (?), where HIV test had not been performed for a few years
after the technology became available.
--Michiaki
Henry Robertson
Michiaki Masuda <mas...@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov> wrote:
>> The Japanese culture of shame
>>prevents hemophiliacs from seeking help! And this is progress!?
> Contrary to your belief, hemophilia patients are usually able to
>receive routine medical help without which they cannot survive.
>From a social point of view, it is true that many HIV-positive
>hemophiliacs cannot receive much help just like other non-hemophiliac
>HIV carriers. I'd assume that many HIV-positive hemophilia patients
>are just hiding the fact that they are carriers.
That's exactly what I said. So stop disagreeing with me for no reason!!!!
You are on the good side, aren't you? Not one of those Bryan Wei netters.
Eddy Robinson
>AIDS cases. So, Richmond has mentally concluded that since Thail
>Prostitute are being brought to Nippon, this is the way AIDS will come
>to Nippon).
No, he was referring to the sex tours that Japanese men take to other asian
countries such as Thailand and the Phillipines, thus importing AIDS. Don't
bother to accuse me of making it up; I know two Japanese men who have done
this sort of tour.
> But, the reality is that AIDS is already in Nippon.
Yes. Also a high risk group are the girls who hang out at the ports in the
hope of finding a nice gaijin sailor to look after for the weekend.
>All the while lying to you and spreading discord and hatred and racism!
Totally unlike yourself of course. In fact, I don't think he is.
Baphomet
Jhon D.Swain
>
>Your point is well taken. But, still this is a dangereous sickness. I
>tours" to Thailand is not the way to inform people of the dangers of
>this killer! In fact, I doubt if it was Mr. Richmonds intention to warn
>as it seems as his intention to ridicule! But, that's my preception!
It is only your perception, Rikiya, if you are oversensetive. The dangers of
Japanese sex tours to Thailand became apparent to me two years ago, but I have
heard nothing in the Japanese press about the danger. I encounter Japanese who
still say things like, "AIDS is only spreading among illegal workers in Japan."
If the statistics about the number of Japanese men who have gone to Southeast
Asia on sex tours are accurate, then Japan can expect an explosion of AIDS
cases among those men and their wives beginning in about three years.
John Swain
Michiaki Masuda
MM: Me
HR> The Japanese culture of shame
HR>prevents hemophiliacs from seeking help! And this is progress!?
MM> Contrary to your belief, hemophilia patients are usually able to
MM>receive routine medical help without which they cannot survive.
MM>From a social point of view, it is true that many HIV-positive
MM>hemophiliacs cannot receive much help just like other non-hemophiliac
MM>HIV carriers. I'd assume that many HIV-positive hemophilia patients
MM>are just hiding the fact that they are carriers.
HR>That's exactly what I said.
Then, obviously you missed the gradual change in the attitude of HIV
carriers in Japan. Please, re-read the part of my response that you deleted.
It should be also mentioned that contrary to your belief, there are many
other cultures of shame preventing HIV carriers from seeking help. You are
not naive enough to believe that there is no HIV carriers in the US who hide
the fact, are you?
MM>So stop disagreeing with me for no reason!!!!
Aha! Probably, you didn't read that part at all before deleting it. That's
why you couldn't find the reason for my comments.
HR>You are on the good side, aren't you?
Would disagreeing with you put me on the bad side?
--Michiaki
Eddy Robinson
>People are dying because of this thing. And, I don't like people who
>make light of this subject! This is serious and to complain about "sex
>tours" to Thailand is not the way to inform people of the dangers of
>this killer!
No? Suppose you heard on the news about how someone contracted HIV while
on such a sex tour? Would it make you think twice about going on one, if you
had been planning it?
I don't this it's so much complaint about sex tours as pointing out that
they're a very risky activity due to the level of AIDS in some countries.
Baphomet
Henry Robertson
Michiaki Masuda <mas...@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov> wrote:
> Then, obviously you missed the gradual change in the attitude of HIV
>carriers in Japan. Please, re-read the part of my response that you deleted.
This?
"Just to set things straight.
Japan imported a lot of HIV-contaminated blood products, and now there
are quite a few HIV-positive hemophiliacs who have been treated with those
contaminated products. Some of these products could have been avoided
either by testing in the producing country or in Japan. HIV-contaminated
blood is said to have been used for industry for a few years even after the
HIV test was invented.
Right now, all the imported and domestic blood and blood products are
screened for HIV. Therefore, there is essentially no possibility of
infection through this route.
"
I don't see anything about attitudes of HIV carriers here....
> It should be also mentioned that contrary to your belief, there are many
>other cultures of shame preventing HIV carriers from seeking help. You are
>not naive enough to believe that there is no HIV carriers in the US who hide
>the fact, are you?
I never said Japan is the only place where people are too ashamed to admit
they have it.
Rikiya Asano
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Well, I'm not a "sex tours" person. But, I think that if these people
would wear CONDOMS, they would blow your defense of Mr. Richmond
auguement right out of the water. But, I contend that it is a morally
issue rather than a "we got AIDS from Thailand"! If anyone is to blame
it is those Japanese who bring it to Nippon and give it to their wives
and other women!
Steve Frampton
> And your attempt to make Japanese racists on the incorrect fear that
> Thailand will bring this disease to Nihon is out of line and very evil
> which is a characteristic of your race!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why you racist bastard! Rikiya, do you shave your head? Grab a clue and
get a life.
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Akira Ijuin
>ra...@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
>> And your attempt to make Japanese racists on the incorrect fear that
>> Thailand will bring this disease to Nihon is out of line and very evil
>> which is a characteristic of your race!
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Why you racist bastard! Rikiya, do you shave your head? Grab a clue and
>get a life.
A Japanese skin head? Wait....does that work?
*shiver*
Akira Ijuin
Eddy Robinson
>Well, I'm not a "sex tours" person. But, I think that if these people
>would wear CONDOMS, they would blow your defense of Mr. Richmond
Indeed. So why aren't they?
>it is those Japanese who bring it to Nippon and give it to their wives
>and other women!
Clue: this is what we've been trying to tell you.
Baphomet
Michiaki Masuda
>In article <CJs94...@ncifcrf.gov>,
>Michiaki Masuda <mas...@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov> wrote:
>> Then, obviously you missed the gradual change in the attitude of HIV
>>carriers in Japan. Please, re-read the part of my response that you deleted.
>This?
>
>"Just to set things straight.
.....
> Right now, all the imported and domestic blood and blood products are
> screened for HIV. Therefore, there is essentially no possibility of
> infection through this route.
>"
>
>I don't see anything about attitudes of HIV carriers here....
Of course, not. You are simply trying not to see the right part in order
to disagree with me for no reason.
If you failed to receive the following part of my posting, you might
want to consult your system manager for the possible malfunctioning at your
site.
"However, there are also hemophiliac patients who are actively
participating in the social movements.
One social movement by the hemophiliac HIV carriers is a law suit
aginst a pharmaceutical company that sold HIV-contaminated imported blood
products without testing them and the Japanese government that failed to
require the testing. This parallels with the similar law suit in the US
and France (?), where HIV test had not been performed for a few years
after the technology became available."
>I never said Japan is the only place where people are too ashamed to admit
>they have it.
Neither did I. Any disagreement?
--Michiaki
Henry Robertson
Michiaki Masuda <mas...@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov> wrote:
>>I don't see anything about attitudes of HIV carriers here....
> Of course, not. You are simply trying not to see the right part in order
>to disagree with me for no reason.
> If you failed to receive the following part of my posting, you might
>want to consult your system manager for the possible malfunctioning at your
>site.
> "However, there are also hemophiliac patients who are actively
>participating in the social movements.
> One social movement by the hemophiliac HIV carriers is a law suit
>aginst a pharmaceutical company that sold HIV-contaminated imported blood
>products without testing them and the Japanese government that failed to
>require the testing. This parallels with the similar law suit in the US
>and France (?), where HIV test had not been performed for a few years
>after the technology became available."
So where does it say here that the attitudes of HIV carriers have changed
overall? It's possible that there are always a minority of outspoken
people and the silent majority. As the number of AIDS cases increases,
so do the number of outspoken people (even if the proportion remains
constant.) In the US, there are outspoken organizations like ACT UP.
But I'm not convinced that that has improved the image of gays among the
hetero mainstream; actually, it could have made it worse.