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Japan PM Abe warns China of force over islands landing
Chinese and Japanese surveillance ships are monitoring
each other closely
BBC News
April 23, 2013
Japan would respond with force if any attempt is made to
land on disputed islands, PM Shinzo Abe has warned.
His comments came as eight Chinese government ships
sailed near East China Sea islands that both nations
claim.
A flotilla of 10 fishing boats carrying Japanese
activists was also reported to be in the area, as well as
the Japanese coastguard.
Mr Abe was speaking in parliament hours after dozens of
lawmakers visited a controversial war-linked shrine.
A total of 168 lawmakers paid their respects at the
Yasukuni Shrine, which commemorates Japan's war dead,
including war criminals, in a move likely to anger
regional neighbours who say the shrine is a reminder of
Japan's military past.
'Deal strongly'
The warning from the Japanese prime minister was the most
explicit to China since Mr Abe took power in December,
the BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports from Tokyo.
Asked in parliament what he would do if Chinese ships
tried to land on the disputed islands, Mr Abe said they
would be expelled by force.
The video pictures coming in from the islands today are
quite dramatic.
There are more ships than I have ever seen before during
one of these encounters - at least eight Chinese ships
and an equal number of Japanese coastguard cutters.
Sailing alongside, dwarfed by the larger ships, are 10
fishing boats flying the Japanese flag and carrying
right-wing Japanese nationalists from a group called
Gambare Nippon.
It is the sort of situation that could quite easily get
out of hand if, for example, the Japanese nationalists
try to land on the islands, or if the Chinese ships try
to board one of the Japanese fishing vessels.
China is now taking the position that its ships are there
protecting "Chinese" territory, and consequently have the
right to board any "foreign" vessels.
That may be why Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has
decided to be more emphatic in his warning to China,
making it explicit that if any of the Chinese vessels
attempt to land on Japanese soil, they will be repelled
with force.
He is laying down a clear line over which he hopes the
Chinese know they would be unwise to cross.
"Since it has become the Abe government, we have made
sure that if there is an instance where there is an
intrusion into our territory or it seems that there could
be landing on the islands then we will deal with it
strongly," he said.
The warning came as eight Chinese ships sailed around the
islands - called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.
The Japanese coast guard said it was the highest number
of Chinese boats in the area since Tokyo nationalised
part of the island chain in September 2012.
China said its ships had been monitoring Japanese
vessels. The State Oceanic Administration issued a
statement saying three of its ships had "found" several
Japanese ships around the islands and "immediately
ordered another five ships in the East China Sea to meet
the three ships".
Ten Japanese boats carrying around 80 activists arrived
in the area early on Tuesday, Reuters news agency
reported, monitored by Japanese Coast Guard vessels.
Public broadcaster NHK said the boats were carrying
"regional lawmakers and members of the foreign media".
Japan's top government spokesman said the "intrusion into
territorial waters" was "extremely regrettable". Japan
also summoned the Chinese ambassador to protest, reports
said.
The territorial row has been rumbling for years but was
reignited last year when Japan bought three of the
islands from their private Japanese owner.
China claims the island chain, which is controlled by
Japan. Taiwan also claims the islands, which offer rich
fishing grounds and lie in a strategically important
area.
Visits to Yasukuni Shrine by lawmakers anger Japan's
neighbours
The dispute has led to serious diplomatic tension between
China and Japan, most recently in January when Japan said
a Chinese frigate locked weapons-controlling radar on one
of its navy ships near the islands - something China
disputes.
'Backlash'
The visit to the Yasukuni Shrine on Tuesday by lawmakers
marking the spring festival is also likely to hit ties
between Beijing and Tokyo.
Two cabinet ministers, including Deputy Prime Minister
Taro Aso, visited the shrine on Sunday. Prime Minister
Shinzo Abe did not visit but made a ritual offering.
South Korea subsequently cancelled a proposed visit by
its foreign minister, while China lodged "solemn
representations" in response to the ministers' visit.
"Only when Japan faces up to its aggressive past can it
embrace the future and develop friendly relations with
its Asian neighbours," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua
Chunying said on Monday.
But Japanese lawmaker Hidehisa Otsujji said it was
"natural" for "lawmakers to worship at a shrine for
people who died for the nation".
"Every nation does this. I don't understand why we get a
backlash," he said.
Related Stories
Q&A: China-Japan islands row
Visit shelved over Japan war shrine
What Japanese history lessons leave out
Analysis
By Rupert Wingfield-Hayes
BBC News, Tokyo
More at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22260140
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Chinese and Japanese surveillance ships are monitoring
each other closely
BBC News
April 23, 2013
Japan would respond with force if any attempt is made to
land on disputed islands, PM Shinzo Abe has warned.
His comments came as eight Chinese government ships
sailed near East China Sea islands that both nations
claim.
A flotilla of 10 fishing boats carrying Japanese
activists was also reported to be in the area, as well as
the Japanese coastguard.
Mr Abe was speaking in parliament hours after dozens of
lawmakers visited a controversial war-linked shrine.
A total of 168 lawmakers paid their respects at the
Yasukuni Shrine, which commemorates Japan's war dead,
including war criminals, in a move likely to anger
regional neighbours who say the shrine is a reminder of
Japan's military past.
'Deal strongly'
The warning from the Japanese prime minister was the most
explicit to China since Mr Abe took power in December,
the BBC's Rupert Wingfield-Hayes reports from Tokyo.
Asked in parliament what he would do if Chinese ships
tried to land on the disputed islands, Mr Abe said they
would be expelled by force.
The video pictures coming in from the islands today are
quite dramatic.
There are more ships than I have ever seen before during
one of these encounters - at least eight Chinese ships
and an equal number of Japanese coastguard cutters.
Sailing alongside, dwarfed by the larger ships, are 10
fishing boats flying the Japanese flag and carrying
right-wing Japanese nationalists from a group called
Gambare Nippon.
It is the sort of situation that could quite easily get
out of hand if, for example, the Japanese nationalists
try to land on the islands, or if the Chinese ships try
to board one of the Japanese fishing vessels.
China is now taking the position that its ships are there
protecting "Chinese" territory, and consequently have the
right to board any "foreign" vessels.
That may be why Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has
decided to be more emphatic in his warning to China,
making it explicit that if any of the Chinese vessels
attempt to land on Japanese soil, they will be repelled
with force.
He is laying down a clear line over which he hopes the
Chinese know they would be unwise to cross.
"Since it has become the Abe government, we have made
sure that if there is an instance where there is an
intrusion into our territory or it seems that there could
be landing on the islands then we will deal with it
strongly," he said.
The warning came as eight Chinese ships sailed around the
islands - called Senkaku in Japan and Diaoyu in China.
The Japanese coast guard said it was the highest number
of Chinese boats in the area since Tokyo nationalised
part of the island chain in September 2012.
China said its ships had been monitoring Japanese
vessels. The State Oceanic Administration issued a
statement saying three of its ships had "found" several
Japanese ships around the islands and "immediately
ordered another five ships in the East China Sea to meet
the three ships".
Ten Japanese boats carrying around 80 activists arrived
in the area early on Tuesday, Reuters news agency
reported, monitored by Japanese Coast Guard vessels.
Public broadcaster NHK said the boats were carrying
"regional lawmakers and members of the foreign media".
Japan's top government spokesman said the "intrusion into
territorial waters" was "extremely regrettable". Japan
also summoned the Chinese ambassador to protest, reports
said.
The territorial row has been rumbling for years but was
reignited last year when Japan bought three of the
islands from their private Japanese owner.
China claims the island chain, which is controlled by
Japan. Taiwan also claims the islands, which offer rich
fishing grounds and lie in a strategically important
area.
Visits to Yasukuni Shrine by lawmakers anger Japan's
neighbours
The dispute has led to serious diplomatic tension between
China and Japan, most recently in January when Japan said
a Chinese frigate locked weapons-controlling radar on one
of its navy ships near the islands - something China
disputes.
'Backlash'
The visit to the Yasukuni Shrine on Tuesday by lawmakers
marking the spring festival is also likely to hit ties
between Beijing and Tokyo.
Two cabinet ministers, including Deputy Prime Minister
Taro Aso, visited the shrine on Sunday. Prime Minister
Shinzo Abe did not visit but made a ritual offering.
South Korea subsequently cancelled a proposed visit by
its foreign minister, while China lodged "solemn
representations" in response to the ministers' visit.
"Only when Japan faces up to its aggressive past can it
embrace the future and develop friendly relations with
its Asian neighbours," Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Hua
Chunying said on Monday.
But Japanese lawmaker Hidehisa Otsujji said it was
"natural" for "lawmakers to worship at a shrine for
people who died for the nation".
"Every nation does this. I don't understand why we get a
backlash," he said.
Related Stories
Q&A: China-Japan islands row
Visit shelved over Japan war shrine
What Japanese history lessons leave out
Analysis
By Rupert Wingfield-Hayes
BBC News, Tokyo
More at:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22260140
Jai Maharaj, Jyotishi
Om Shanti
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On Apr 29, 6:11 pm, "Jesus Isa Christ , who claimed to have been
the ONLY SON of Yo He Wa Hey , was a Married Man , according
Yes, and they still worship the ground where war-criminals are buried.
the ONLY SON of Yo He Wa Hey , was a Married Man , according
Yes, and they still worship the ground where war-criminals are buried.
Satish
Apr 30, 2013, 12:09:38 AM4/30/13
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Chairman Mao, murdered more people than the Tojo regime and the Hitler
regime combined. But Mao's preserved body continues to be worshipped
in its grotesque mausoleum in Beijing.
rst0
Apr 30, 2013, 12:19:07 AM4/30/13
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Satish
Apr 30, 2013, 1:59:16 AM4/30/13
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the greatest mass murderer in world history.
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great-leap-forward-killed-45-million-in-four-years-2081630.html#
Friday, 17 September 2010
Mao's Great Leap Forward 'killed 45 million in four years'
By Arifa Akbar, Arts Correspondent
Mao Zedong, founder of the People's Republic of China, qualifies as
the greatest mass murderer in world history, an expert who had
unprecedented access to official Communist Party archives said
yesterday.
Speaking at The Independent Woodstock Literary Festival, Frank
Dikötter, a Hong Kong-based historian, said he found that during the
time that Mao was enforcing the Great Leap Forward in 1958, in an
effort to catch up with the economy of the Western world, he was
responsible for overseeing "one of the worst catastrophes the world
has ever known".
Mr Dikötter, who has been studying Chinese rural history from 1958 to
1962, when the nation was facing a famine, compared the systematic
torture, brutality, starvation and killing of Chinese peasants to the
Second World War in its magnitude. At least 45 million people were
worked, starved or beaten to death in China over these four years; the
worldwide death toll of the Second World War was 55 million.
Mr Dikötter is the only author to have delved into the Chinese
archives since they were reopened four years ago. He argued that this
devastating period of history – which has until now remained hidden –
has international resonance. "It ranks alongside the gulags and the
Holocaust as one of the three greatest events of the 20th century....
It was like [the Cambodian communist dictator] Pol Pot's genocide
multiplied 20 times over," he said.
Between 1958 and 1962, a war raged between the peasants and the state;
it was a period when a third of all homes in China were destroyed to
produce fertiliser and when the nation descended into famine and
starvation, Mr Dikötter said.
His book, Mao's Great Famine; The Story of China's Most Devastating
Catastrophe, reveals that while this is a part of history that has
been "quite forgotten" in the official memory of the People's Republic
of China, there was a "staggering degree of violence" that was,
remarkably, carefully catalogued in Public Security Bureau reports,
which featured among the provincial archives he studied. In them, he
found that the members of the rural farming communities were seen by
the Party merely as "digits", or a faceless workforce. For those who
committed any acts of disobedience, however minor, the punishments
were huge.
State retribution for tiny thefts, such as stealing a potato, even by
a child, would include being tied up and thrown into a pond; parents
were forced to bury their children alive or were doused in excrement
and urine, others were set alight, or had a nose or ear cut off. One
record shows how a man was branded with hot metal. People were forced
to work naked in the middle of winter; 80 per cent of all the
villagers in one region of a quarter of a million Chinese were banned
from the official canteen because they were too old or ill to be
effective workers, so were deliberately starved to death.
Mr Dikötter said that he was once again examining the Party's archives
for his next book, The Tragedy of Liberation, which will deal with the
bloody advent of Communism in China from 1944 to 1957.
He said the archives were already illuminating the extent of the
atrocities of the period; one piece of evidence revealed that 13,000
opponents of the new regime were killed in one region alone, in just
three weeks. "We know the outline of what went on but I will be
looking into precisely what happened in this period, how it happened,
and the human experiences behind the history," he said.
Mr Dikötter, who teaches at the University of Hong Kong, said while it
was difficult for any historian in China to write books that are
critical of Mao, he felt he could not collude with the "conspiracy of
silence" in what the Chinese rural community had suffered in recent
history.
rst0
Apr 30, 2013, 2:07:46 AM4/30/13
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Get real, Satish. You're living in a cocaine-filled world.
Satish is a cocaine-filled raving madman.
Yeah!!! Satish, why must you persist on being a crazy raving madman?
Zang Fang Zhou , PLA centre for CYBER - WARFARE unit 61398 , Shang Hai , CHINA
Apr 30, 2013, 11:55:43 AM4/30/13
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yes
Chairman Mao was a Mass Murderer
Chairman Mao murdered CHINESE people .
while in the Past , White Brits murdered Black Indians for
NOTHING
On Apr 30, 12:59 pm, Satish <sk.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 9:19 pm, rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 29, 9:09 pm, Satish <sk.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Apr 29, 8:44 pm, rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 29, 6:11 pm, "Jesus Isa Christ , who claimed to have been
> > > > the ONLY SON of Yo He Wa Hey , was a Married Man , according
> > > > to Coptic Prof Karen King" <veak...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > Yes, and they still worship the ground where war-criminals are buried.
>
> > > Criminals in the Chinese Communist Party, under the criminal-in-chief,
> > > Chairman Mao, murdered more people than the Tojo regime and the Hitler
> > > regime combined. But Mao's preserved body continues to be worshipped
> > > in its grotesque mausoleum in Beijing.
>
> > Get real, Satish. You're living in a cocaine-filled world.
>
> Mao Zedong, founder of the People's Republic of China, qualifies as
> the greatest mass murderer in world history.
>
> http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/maos-great...
Chairman Mao was a Mass Murderer
Chairman Mao murdered CHINESE people .
while in the Past , White Brits murdered Black Indians for
NOTHING
On Apr 30, 12:59 pm, Satish <sk.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Apr 29, 9:19 pm, rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> > On Apr 29, 9:09 pm, Satish <sk.c...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Apr 29, 8:44 pm, rst0 <rst0w...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Apr 29, 6:11 pm, "Jesus Isa Christ , who claimed to have been
> > > > the ONLY SON of Yo He Wa Hey , was a Married Man , according
> > > > to Coptic Prof Karen King" <veak...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Yes, and they still worship the ground where war-criminals are buried.
>
> > > Criminals in the Chinese Communist Party, under the criminal-in-chief,
> > > Chairman Mao, murdered more people than the Tojo regime and the Hitler
> > > regime combined. But Mao's preserved body continues to be worshipped
> > > in its grotesque mausoleum in Beijing.
>
> > Get real, Satish. You're living in a cocaine-filled world.
>
> Mao Zedong, founder of the People's Republic of China, qualifies as
> the greatest mass murderer in world history.
>
rst9
Apr 30, 2013, 1:03:40 PM4/30/13
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On Apr 30, 8:55 am, "Zang Fang Zhou , PLA centre for CYBER -
WARFARE unit 61398 , Shang Hai , CHINA" <verinvanv...@gmail.com>
wrote:
very badly, Satish.
WARFARE unit 61398 , Shang Hai , CHINA" <verinvanv...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> yes
>
> Chairman Mao was a Mass Murderer
>
> Chairman Mao murdered CHINESE people .
>
> while in the Past , White Brits murdered Black Indians for
> NOTHING
>
Well, they missed one particular Black Indian which needed killing
>
> Chairman Mao was a Mass Murderer
>
> Chairman Mao murdered CHINESE people .
>
> while in the Past , White Brits murdered Black Indians for
> NOTHING
>
very badly, Satish.
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Apr 30, 2013, 1:14:49 PM4/30/13
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Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
Analysis
Rupert Wingfield-Hayes
BBC News, Tokyo
April 23, 2013
The video pictures coming in from the islands today are
quite dramatic.
There are more ships than I have ever seen before during
one of these encounters - at least eight Chinese ships
and an equal number of Japanese coastguard cutters.
Sailing alongside, dwarfed by the larger ships, are 10
fishing boats flying the Japanese flag and carrying
right-wing Japanese nationalists from a group called
Gambare Nippon.
It is the sort of situation that could quite easily get
out of hand if, for example, the Japanese nationalists
try to land on the islands, or if the Chinese ships try
to board one of the Japanese fishing vessels.
China is now taking the position that its ships are there
protecting "Chinese" territory, and consequently have the
right to board any "foreign" vessels.
That may be why Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has
decided to be more emphatic in his warning to China,
making it explicit that if any of the Chinese vessels
attempt to land on Japanese soil, they will be repelled
with force.
He is laying down a clear line over which he hopes the
Chinese know they would be unwise to cross.
Rupert Wingfield-Hayes
BBC News, Tokyo
The video pictures coming in from the islands today are
quite dramatic.
There are more ships than I have ever seen before during
one of these encounters - at least eight Chinese ships
and an equal number of Japanese coastguard cutters.
Sailing alongside, dwarfed by the larger ships, are 10
fishing boats flying the Japanese flag and carrying
right-wing Japanese nationalists from a group called
Gambare Nippon.
It is the sort of situation that could quite easily get
out of hand if, for example, the Japanese nationalists
try to land on the islands, or if the Chinese ships try
to board one of the Japanese fishing vessels.
China is now taking the position that its ships are there
protecting "Chinese" territory, and consequently have the
right to board any "foreign" vessels.
That may be why Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has
decided to be more emphatic in his warning to China,
making it explicit that if any of the Chinese vessels
attempt to land on Japanese soil, they will be repelled
with force.
He is laying down a clear line over which he hopes the
Chinese know they would be unwise to cross.
rst9
Apr 30, 2013, 1:23:10 PM4/30/13
to
On Apr 30, 10:14 am, use...@mantra.com and/or www.mantra.com/jai (Dr.
He puts himself right on the target with no way of backing out.
Japan has no power to challenge China.
If there is ever a paper tiger, you are seeing a paper tiger Japan
now.
Japan has no power to challenge China.
If there is ever a paper tiger, you are seeing a paper tiger Japan
now.
Mao , the HEAD of the CPC , Communist Party of China , Yellow Race Power Block
Apr 30, 2013, 7:51:19 PM4/30/13
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WATCH your language , you little CHINK .
I kill you !
On Apr 30, 10:55 pm, "Zang Fang Zhou , PLA centre for CYBER -
I kill you !
On Apr 30, 10:55 pm, "Zang Fang Zhou , PLA centre for CYBER -
Harold Burton
Apr 30, 2013, 8:11:57 PM4/30/13
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I note you didn't actually dispute anything he wrote.
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