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Satish
May 22, 2013, 4:05:50 PM5/22/13
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China made four high-profile foreign policy fumbles in March and the
negative repercussions they engender may ultimately come back to harm
the country's own interests.
Wall Street Journal
April 12, 2013
March: China’s Month of Mistakes
By Gabe Collins and Andrew Erickson
March was a tough month for China’s foreign policymakers, with four
high-profile foreign policy fumbles, two of which significantly helped
to raise the risk of tension and crisis in East Asia. While all but
one of these incidents apparently stemmed from deliberate actions
approved by Chinese decision-makers at some level, and hence do not
constitute errors in execution per se, the negative repercussions they
engender may ultimately come back to harm China’s own interests.
At the recently concluded Bo’ao Forum on the southern island province
of Hainan, President Xi Jinping was eager to position China as a force
for peace in the region.
“For Asia, development is still the top question, development is still
crucial for solving many problems and conflicts,” he told attendees.
“Without peace, there is no need to talk about development.” Yet
China’s actions in March suggest that in pursuing its aims Beijing is
all too willing to act at odds with these welcome words.
China has couched its more assertive stance in the region in terms of
a natural desire to protect its national interests. All nations pursue
their own interests, and one would expect China to desire to project
its growing power in service of that goal. The real issue is whether
China can project its power in ways that are compatible enough with
the interests of others to reduce the potential for outright conflict.
The most serious threat to regional stability at present is North
Korea’s latest ramping up of provocations—a process that Beijing
abetted in early March by perpetuating the false notion that all
parties bear equal responsibility for the situation. Encouraged by the
knowledge that Beijing is unwilling to abandon it, Pyongyang lashed
out at the sanctions imposed by the United Nations after its February
nuclear test, spewing threat after bellicose threat.
Although China joined the U.S. in supporting the U.N. sanctions, it
remained meek in the face of North Korean saber rattling. Beijing
worries that by removing its support for Pyongyang, it risks hastening
regime collapse in North Korea and reunification of the Korean
peninsula under non-Chinese terms. Those concerns are understandable.
But by aiding and abetting a bad actor that so flagrantly defies
international norms and threatens regional stability, while
simultaneously suggesting that the problem lies with others, China put
its parochial interests above the regional peace and development that
it publicly champions.
A similar disregard for others’ interests was in evidence in an
incident on March 20, when Chinese patrol boats confronted a
Vietnamese fishing boat near the disputed Paracel Islands. According
to the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry, two Chinese patrol vessels (hulls
262 and 263 from China Marine Surveillance) chased and fired on a
Vietnamese fishing boat named QNg96382, causing a fire that destroyed
the boat’s cabin. Chinese reporting on the incident acknowledged that
the Chinese vessels had fired, but called the discharges “warning
shots.”
The official PLA Daily said another patrol vessel, China Marine
Surveillance 786, fired two red flares into the air to warn four
Vietnamese fishing vessels to leave waters around the islands. While
it remains unclear precisely who did what, photos showing China Marine
Surveillance 786 with a cloud of smoke near it and a Vietnamese boat
with a burned-out cabin that looks very much like earlier photos of an
intact QNg96382 suggest that Chinese boats did indeed set the
Vietnamese boat on fire, whether they intended to or not.
Previously reported incidents, such as the cutting by Chinese vessels
of a Vietnamese oil exploration vessel’s cables in 2012, make this
appear to be part of a larger pattern of Chinese pressure and raise
questions about China’s willingness to err on the side of threatening
and using force in pushing its claims in disputed waters. The incident
also raises questions about how much control China’s State Oceanic
Administration has over vessel captains operating under the
paramilitary Marine Surveillance agency.
In projecting power around the region, China has demonstrated a
certain degree of hypocrisy. This became evident on March 22, two days
after the confrontation near the Paracels, when a 4-vessel PLA Navy
flotilla led by the amphibious landing ship Jinggangshan moved into
waters near the disputed James Shoal—only 80 kilometers (50 miles)
from Malaysia —and began a combined arms amphibious exercise.
The flotilla left the South China Sea on a week later and headed
through the Bashi Channel between Taiwan and the Philippines to enter
the Western Pacific for additional training. The PLAN’s maneuver and
an accompanying ceremony near the shoal, during which Chinese sailors
swore to uphold China’s territorial integrity and defend its South
China Sea interests, no doubt caused consternation in regional
capitals, particularly Kuala Lumpur, which has so far made little
noise about China’s assertiveness in the area.
While the exercises did not violate international law, they did
violate an unofficial standard China has maintained in confronting
U.S. reconnaissance missions off its own shores.
When a Chinese J-8 fighter collided with a U.S. EP-3 aircraft in 2001,
sparking a diplomatic crisis, the U.S. plane was approximately 70
miles (110 km) from Hainan Island and 100 miles from Chinese
facilities in the Paracel Islands.
At the time of its 2009 surrounding and harassment by five Chinese
government-controlled vessels, U.S. survey ship USNS Impeccable was
roughly 75 miles south of Hainan. China’s opposition to U.S. actions
yet willingness to engage in military maneuvers near smaller neighbors
like Malaysia evokes the double standard expressed in a Chinese
proverb: “Magistrates may set fires but commoners may not even light
lamps.”
Finally, with North Korean provocations fully in play, a state-owned
Chinese oil tanker was caught loading crude in Iran, another pariah
state that enjoys substantial Chinese support. Vessel tracking data
indicated that the supertanker Yuan Yang Hu, owned by China Ocean
Shipping (COSCO), loaded oil at Iran’s Kharg Island on March 21 in
violation of an U.S.-EU embargo. COSCO is a strategic state-owned
enterprise whose vessels are tracked both by commercial services and
by the China Ship Reporting system (CHISREP), meaning there is little
chance for a mistake here. The best explanation we can think of at
this point for a Chinese company to risk openly flouting the embargo
is that the Iranians are selling some cargoes at significant discounts
in order to attract buyers.
China Real Time Report analyzed the potential for Iran to market crude
oil in this manner back in January 2012 when the issue was coming to
the fore, and it appears the Iranians may be testing the waters to see
what types of sweeteners are needed to bring buyers back into the
market. Such Chinese activities help Iran evade sanctions imposed to
curb Tehran’s defiance of international norms.
Chinese actions in March have helped to set the stage for a
contentious ASEAN summit, slated to kick off on April 24 in Brunei—
only 250 km from James Shoal. In the meantime, ongoing tension on the
North Korean peninsula presents Beijing with an opportunity to prove
that it can be a responsible stakeholder in the region. Indeed, as the
serious of the situation became more apparent in the latter half of
March, China began stepping up the pressure on Pyongyang.
China, its neighbors, and rest of the world would all benefit if
Beijing were to match its lofty rhetoric on regional peace with
positive deeds and clear messages to irresponsible actors. This
includes holding itself to the same standards of restraint that it
demands of others. Yet the reality is that frictions between Beijing
and its neighbors and Washington are likely to increase, powered in
part by a post-2008 notion that China’s power is waxing as the U.S.’s
wanes.
The world should expect China to pursue its national interests in an
increasingly forthright fashion as its military power and capabilities
rise towards a level more commensurate with its already substantial
global economic and security interests.
In some areas, such as the fight against Somali pirates, increased
Chinese activity will be beneficial. But with regard to island and
maritime disputes in particular, friction and disputes are likely to
intensify. China’s tectonic boundaries with Japan in the East China
Sea and Vietnam in the South China Sea will remain among Asia’s most
volatile flashpoints for the foreseeable future.
Nobody expects China not to pursue its own interests, but all will be
watching to see to what extent it does so in a way that respects
others’ needs and concerns.
negative repercussions they engender may ultimately come back to harm
the country's own interests.
Wall Street Journal
April 12, 2013
March: China’s Month of Mistakes
By Gabe Collins and Andrew Erickson
March was a tough month for China’s foreign policymakers, with four
high-profile foreign policy fumbles, two of which significantly helped
to raise the risk of tension and crisis in East Asia. While all but
one of these incidents apparently stemmed from deliberate actions
approved by Chinese decision-makers at some level, and hence do not
constitute errors in execution per se, the negative repercussions they
engender may ultimately come back to harm China’s own interests.
At the recently concluded Bo’ao Forum on the southern island province
of Hainan, President Xi Jinping was eager to position China as a force
for peace in the region.
“For Asia, development is still the top question, development is still
crucial for solving many problems and conflicts,” he told attendees.
“Without peace, there is no need to talk about development.” Yet
China’s actions in March suggest that in pursuing its aims Beijing is
all too willing to act at odds with these welcome words.
China has couched its more assertive stance in the region in terms of
a natural desire to protect its national interests. All nations pursue
their own interests, and one would expect China to desire to project
its growing power in service of that goal. The real issue is whether
China can project its power in ways that are compatible enough with
the interests of others to reduce the potential for outright conflict.
The most serious threat to regional stability at present is North
Korea’s latest ramping up of provocations—a process that Beijing
abetted in early March by perpetuating the false notion that all
parties bear equal responsibility for the situation. Encouraged by the
knowledge that Beijing is unwilling to abandon it, Pyongyang lashed
out at the sanctions imposed by the United Nations after its February
nuclear test, spewing threat after bellicose threat.
Although China joined the U.S. in supporting the U.N. sanctions, it
remained meek in the face of North Korean saber rattling. Beijing
worries that by removing its support for Pyongyang, it risks hastening
regime collapse in North Korea and reunification of the Korean
peninsula under non-Chinese terms. Those concerns are understandable.
But by aiding and abetting a bad actor that so flagrantly defies
international norms and threatens regional stability, while
simultaneously suggesting that the problem lies with others, China put
its parochial interests above the regional peace and development that
it publicly champions.
A similar disregard for others’ interests was in evidence in an
incident on March 20, when Chinese patrol boats confronted a
Vietnamese fishing boat near the disputed Paracel Islands. According
to the Vietnamese Foreign Ministry, two Chinese patrol vessels (hulls
262 and 263 from China Marine Surveillance) chased and fired on a
Vietnamese fishing boat named QNg96382, causing a fire that destroyed
the boat’s cabin. Chinese reporting on the incident acknowledged that
the Chinese vessels had fired, but called the discharges “warning
shots.”
The official PLA Daily said another patrol vessel, China Marine
Surveillance 786, fired two red flares into the air to warn four
Vietnamese fishing vessels to leave waters around the islands. While
it remains unclear precisely who did what, photos showing China Marine
Surveillance 786 with a cloud of smoke near it and a Vietnamese boat
with a burned-out cabin that looks very much like earlier photos of an
intact QNg96382 suggest that Chinese boats did indeed set the
Vietnamese boat on fire, whether they intended to or not.
Previously reported incidents, such as the cutting by Chinese vessels
of a Vietnamese oil exploration vessel’s cables in 2012, make this
appear to be part of a larger pattern of Chinese pressure and raise
questions about China’s willingness to err on the side of threatening
and using force in pushing its claims in disputed waters. The incident
also raises questions about how much control China’s State Oceanic
Administration has over vessel captains operating under the
paramilitary Marine Surveillance agency.
In projecting power around the region, China has demonstrated a
certain degree of hypocrisy. This became evident on March 22, two days
after the confrontation near the Paracels, when a 4-vessel PLA Navy
flotilla led by the amphibious landing ship Jinggangshan moved into
waters near the disputed James Shoal—only 80 kilometers (50 miles)
from Malaysia —and began a combined arms amphibious exercise.
The flotilla left the South China Sea on a week later and headed
through the Bashi Channel between Taiwan and the Philippines to enter
the Western Pacific for additional training. The PLAN’s maneuver and
an accompanying ceremony near the shoal, during which Chinese sailors
swore to uphold China’s territorial integrity and defend its South
China Sea interests, no doubt caused consternation in regional
capitals, particularly Kuala Lumpur, which has so far made little
noise about China’s assertiveness in the area.
While the exercises did not violate international law, they did
violate an unofficial standard China has maintained in confronting
U.S. reconnaissance missions off its own shores.
When a Chinese J-8 fighter collided with a U.S. EP-3 aircraft in 2001,
sparking a diplomatic crisis, the U.S. plane was approximately 70
miles (110 km) from Hainan Island and 100 miles from Chinese
facilities in the Paracel Islands.
At the time of its 2009 surrounding and harassment by five Chinese
government-controlled vessels, U.S. survey ship USNS Impeccable was
roughly 75 miles south of Hainan. China’s opposition to U.S. actions
yet willingness to engage in military maneuvers near smaller neighbors
like Malaysia evokes the double standard expressed in a Chinese
proverb: “Magistrates may set fires but commoners may not even light
lamps.”
Finally, with North Korean provocations fully in play, a state-owned
Chinese oil tanker was caught loading crude in Iran, another pariah
state that enjoys substantial Chinese support. Vessel tracking data
indicated that the supertanker Yuan Yang Hu, owned by China Ocean
Shipping (COSCO), loaded oil at Iran’s Kharg Island on March 21 in
violation of an U.S.-EU embargo. COSCO is a strategic state-owned
enterprise whose vessels are tracked both by commercial services and
by the China Ship Reporting system (CHISREP), meaning there is little
chance for a mistake here. The best explanation we can think of at
this point for a Chinese company to risk openly flouting the embargo
is that the Iranians are selling some cargoes at significant discounts
in order to attract buyers.
China Real Time Report analyzed the potential for Iran to market crude
oil in this manner back in January 2012 when the issue was coming to
the fore, and it appears the Iranians may be testing the waters to see
what types of sweeteners are needed to bring buyers back into the
market. Such Chinese activities help Iran evade sanctions imposed to
curb Tehran’s defiance of international norms.
Chinese actions in March have helped to set the stage for a
contentious ASEAN summit, slated to kick off on April 24 in Brunei—
only 250 km from James Shoal. In the meantime, ongoing tension on the
North Korean peninsula presents Beijing with an opportunity to prove
that it can be a responsible stakeholder in the region. Indeed, as the
serious of the situation became more apparent in the latter half of
March, China began stepping up the pressure on Pyongyang.
China, its neighbors, and rest of the world would all benefit if
Beijing were to match its lofty rhetoric on regional peace with
positive deeds and clear messages to irresponsible actors. This
includes holding itself to the same standards of restraint that it
demands of others. Yet the reality is that frictions between Beijing
and its neighbors and Washington are likely to increase, powered in
part by a post-2008 notion that China’s power is waxing as the U.S.’s
wanes.
The world should expect China to pursue its national interests in an
increasingly forthright fashion as its military power and capabilities
rise towards a level more commensurate with its already substantial
global economic and security interests.
In some areas, such as the fight against Somali pirates, increased
Chinese activity will be beneficial. But with regard to island and
maritime disputes in particular, friction and disputes are likely to
intensify. China’s tectonic boundaries with Japan in the East China
Sea and Vietnam in the South China Sea will remain among Asia’s most
volatile flashpoints for the foreseeable future.
Nobody expects China not to pursue its own interests, but all will be
watching to see to what extent it does so in a way that respects
others’ needs and concerns.
rst9
May 22, 2013, 6:41:55 PM5/22/13
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wants hire you.
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Satish C Kumar
Also seen as:
Satish K Chembolli
Madhavan Satish Kumar C Chembolli
Satish Kmur
Satishkumas C Madhavan
Satish Mr Madhavan
Satishkumar Chembolli Madhavan
Satish Kumar Madhavan
Age: 46 years old.
Sathish Kumar
(913) 663-2023
10408 W 116th Ter
Overland Park, KS 66210-3840
Residing in Casa De Fuentes Apartment complex.
No college background.
No professional organization
Most likely profession as most Indians in this country:
Truck driver
Liquor store clerk
Gasoline service worker.
As I have said: very dark skin, filthy smelly-odor Indian, This
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Satish C Kumar
Age: 46
Birthday: 2/**/1967
Full results include available:
Previous Addresses:
*****, Shawnee Mission, KS 66210-2205
*****, Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-7953
*****, Kalamazoo, MI 49006
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2 Reviews from everyone and 2 scores without reviews
A Google User reviewed a year ago
Overall Poor to fair
The layout and the size of the apartment are great. The staff,
management and maintenance do half a@@ jobs. It takes forever to get
anything completed. Once it is. It doesn't help to complain because
management is a joke. The tenants are loud and obnoxious. The carport
and the apartments have mold. I wouldn't recommend this apartment to
my worst enemy. You should save your money and move into a bad area.
I
least you know what to expect and your saving about $300-$400.
A Google User reviewed 3 years ago
Overall Poor to fair
One of the Worst Managements i have ever come across. the apartments
are ok to live. Have been struggling with Water leaks in the
apartment
and the management has not bothered to look into it till date. Have
complained about it in more than 6 times. Its a sincere advice if
you
are looking for service this is NOT THE PLACE FOR YOU
> If not, what are these meant to your posters here?
What is on the internet is him alright. It fitted him to the T.
> Are these not your callings to instigate other posters of your alliances to
> posture their attack with you on your subject?.
No, what I stated about him is what I found on him on the internet.
You can find the same info on him.
wants hire you.
How sad!!!
I traced his location through his IP address. He uses his real name
as his ID, "Satish". His real name is Satish Kumar. His IP address
indicated he's in Kansas, just above Wichita.
Searching through the internet, I found a "Satish C. Kumar" living in
Overland Park, Kansas, just above the server location. The server is
located between Wichita and Overland Park.
What I stated about him is on the internet.
Satish C Kumar
Also seen as:
Satish K Chembolli
Madhavan Satish Kumar C Chembolli
Satish Kmur
Satishkumas C Madhavan
Satish Mr Madhavan
Satishkumar Chembolli Madhavan
Satish Kumar Madhavan
Age: 46 years old.
Sathish Kumar
(913) 663-2023
10408 W 116th Ter
Overland Park, KS 66210-3840
Residing in Casa De Fuentes Apartment complex.
No college background.
No professional organization
Most likely profession as most Indians in this country:
Truck driver
Liquor store clerk
Gasoline service worker.
As I have said: very dark skin, filthy smelly-odor Indian, This
picture must have been taken years ago showing his best side.
https://plus.google.com/107843435820508398969/posts
http://411.info/people/Kansas/Overland-Park/Kumar-Sathish/65734351.html
Satish C Kumar
Age: 46
Birthday: 2/**/1967
Full results include available:
Previous Addresses:
*****, Shawnee Mission, KS 66210-2205
*****, Rancho Cordova, CA 95670-7953
*****, Kalamazoo, MI 49006
Read more: http://411.info/people/Kansas/Overland-Park/Kumar-Sathish/65734351.ht...
2 Reviews from everyone and 2 scores without reviews
A Google User reviewed a year ago
Overall Poor to fair
The layout and the size of the apartment are great. The staff,
management and maintenance do half a@@ jobs. It takes forever to get
anything completed. Once it is. It doesn't help to complain because
management is a joke. The tenants are loud and obnoxious. The carport
and the apartments have mold. I wouldn't recommend this apartment to
my worst enemy. You should save your money and move into a bad area.
I
least you know what to expect and your saving about $300-$400.
A Google User reviewed 3 years ago
Overall Poor to fair
One of the Worst Managements i have ever come across. the apartments
are ok to live. Have been struggling with Water leaks in the
apartment
and the management has not bothered to look into it till date. Have
complained about it in more than 6 times. Its a sincere advice if
you
are looking for service this is NOT THE PLACE FOR YOU
> If not, what are these meant to your posters here?
What is on the internet is him alright. It fitted him to the T.
> Are these not your callings to instigate other posters of your alliances to
> posture their attack with you on your subject?.
No, what I stated about him is what I found on him on the internet.
You can find the same info on him.
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