Language and ethnic origin of Korean and Japanese
Supertech
the collapse of its dynasty by Shilla and Tang coalition, fled to Japan,
formed a group named Yamato faction and established the unified Japan state
in and around 4-5 century AD( about the same time Attila the Hun conquered
Western Europe).
Naturally, Korean originated Baekje Kingship started the Emperor family of
Japan. Also, naturally, they have ample ground to grind axes toward the
Shilla ruled Korean state and also toward China as you may have seen in the
recent modern history. The Buyeo tribal kingship was the originator of
Koguryo and Baekje dynasty in the beginning.
In all of the Korean history text books, Japan has been consistently
referred to as being midgets, half naked and barbarous people, therefore,
being a ruler of Japan was not that much of a glory to those fled to Japan,
neither to the perception of the Shilla people. These inferior complex can
manifest itself anytime with violence if proper chances are given with guns
and a little bit of early modern technology.
This was the only major historical involvement of Japan and Korea. There is
no prior Japon influence toward the northern Asia. It didn't happen.
Note the center of the worldwide conquetorial expansion of the
Koguryo(Buyeo) people started in and around northern BaekDu mountain and in
and around the 4th century AD.
It reached England to the far west by Attila the Hun and to the far east to
Japan by Yamato.
But they were all the same people.
They called collectively themselves as Hun or Han, meaning BIG and great.
Koreans still call themselves Dae Han(Hun) Min Kuk (great Hun people's
nation).
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>I have heard it said that some linguists have stated that the limited
> evidence available indicates that the extinct language of Goguryeo is
> cognate with Old Japanese, but not related with the Korean language
> which derived from that of Silla. Also, it's been said that the two
> states of Goguryeo and Baekje were both descended from the old state
> of Buyeo, and that Baekje not only has ethnic similarities with
> Goguryeo but also has extensive ties with Japan, and as a result, the
> states of Goguryo, Baekje were speculated to have been old Japonic
> states, in addition to Yamato Japan. Whereas modern Korea derived from
> Silla, which is ethnically more distant.
>
> On the other hand, linguists who disagree with the theory states that
> toponymes (place names) found in the central part of Korean peninsula
> may not be of Goguryeo origin, but instead a previous substratum
> language of the central and southern part of Korean peninsula, namely
> a indigenous Japonic lanuage present in prehistoric times. Some proof
> of this argument are as follows.
> None of the Japanese-like toponymes have been found in northern Korea
> or south-west Manchuria where the historical homeland of Buyeo and
> Goguryeo were situated.
> Also, some Japanese-like toponymes (such as Japanese-like numeral
> found in historical homeland of Silla) are also found in southern
> Korea.
>
> What are your opinions on the matter?
"KLange" <KLa...@msn.com> wrote in message
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>I have heard it said that some linguists have stated that the limited
> evidence available indicates that the extinct language of Goguryeo is
> cognate with Old Japanese, but not related with the Korean language
> which derived from that of Silla. Also, it's been said that the two
> states of Goguryeo and Baekje were both descended from the old state
> of Buyeo, and that Baekje not only has ethnic similarities with
> Goguryeo but also has extensive ties with Japan, and as a result, the
> states of Goguryo, Baekje were speculated to have been old Japonic
> states, in addition to Yamato Japan. Whereas modern Korea derived from
> Silla, which is ethnically more distant.
>
> On the other hand, linguists who disagree with the theory states that
> toponymes (place names) found in the central part of Korean peninsula
> may not be of Goguryeo origin, but instead a previous substratum
> language of the central and southern part of Korean peninsula, namely
> a indigenous Japonic lanuage present in prehistoric times. Some proof
> of this argument are as follows.
> None of the Japanese-like toponymes have been found in northern Korea
> or south-west Manchuria where the historical homeland of Buyeo and
> Goguryeo were situated.
> Also, some Japanese-like toponymes (such as Japanese-like numeral
> found in historical homeland of Silla) are also found in southern
> Korea.
>
> What are your opinions on the matter?
Penang
Attila the Hun is from the "han" tribe of Korea?
What the fuck????????????
charlie vietcong
not true Koreans but were people from Yun Nan living
in Beak-Je now being called as Korea .
charlie vietcong
what happened to the old Supertech who
also claimed Huns were from Korea .?
I only wish what you have said about the Hun 's
alleged Korean racial origine and
migration from Buyeo were true .
because this would mean
German Imperialism
and British Imperialism in the 19th century AD
were all asian Powers .
Supertech
evidences that they were the same people.
One time in history, when Chinese asked Koguryo to attack Hun together,
because they could not deal with Huns by themselves,
Koguryo attacked China instead and occupied one of their territories
referring that Huns are their brotherly neighbors.
Also, history records that one of the Kings of Shilla dynasty bragged that
he was a descendents of Hun roylaties.
I guess Shilla was closer to Huns, on the other hand, Baekje was close to
Koguryo and Puyeo.
In fact, the sound Hun is a slight variation of the original sound Han which
is one of the most pronounced words in Korea.
Ignorance is a bliss.
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Supertech
the other hand, how strongly did he advocate the blue eyed, blond haired
Arian purity?
Don't you think it was hilariously absurd?
Caucasians are easy to control by boosting their egos. Hitler used it to the
full extent. They have very little objectivity in ideas.
On the other hand, they have a very strong mob mentallity and they are also
very hard workers.
I'm sure the King Attila the Hun loved them very much like Hitler did.
In fact, he gave them all the gold(hundreds of tons) he took from Rome for
his children(Prince and Princesses) he got from his over 200 local
wives(Queens).
Now you see why the European landscape has suddenly changed after the Hun's
invasion of Europe.
Rome(Italians) has become poor, while the Germanic tribes have become rich
from this point on in history.
Remember the Germanic tribes were called barbarians by the Romans before
this time in history.
Historians say Huns disappeared after the death of the King Attila the Hun.
Well, Huns fundamentally relocated the vast wealth of the European continent
from the South to the North.
This was not a small task.
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Korean penninsula. They may have had terriory in the east of China also, and
that's why he thinks they are from Yun Nan province.
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Supertech
not from the Latinos but mostly from the northern Europeans?
This tradition was also obviously started from the King Attila the Hun.
He was very generous and had abundant amount of gold to spare for his
children and also for his soldiers and knights.
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Baekje and Koguryo shares the similar militaristic, martial art style rule
which eventually became the Samurai tradition in Japan
In this culture, if a general makes a mistake in a battle, he is given a
sword to kill himself. This was a very strict tradition started from
Koguryo.
On the other hand, Shilla did not have this kind of strict martial art style
rule which can be observed in history.
Shilla Kings were closer to the people and they even had quite a few woman
Kings in Shilla dynasty while Baekje and Koguryo had none.
I think this is shared by the Hun tradition where the King is expected to be
humble and be the lover of his/her people.
And also, they were the advocates of the equality of man and woman.
King Attila the Hun was recorded to have used a wooden cup while he let his
guests to use golden cups in a guest invited dinner table. Where can you see
this kind of humble tradition?
What is the purpose of being a king if you are going to use a wooden cup
while you let your guests to use the golden cups? Emperor Nero would faint
after hearing this.
Korean historians do not seem to notice this important discrepancy because
this is an entirely different culture.
Notice also that the Northern Euroepans allow the women kingship to this
day.
"Supertech" <eje...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hun and Koguryo existed side by side in the north of China. There are
> ample evidences that they were the same people.culture One time in
Jesus Christ , St. Mary 's cunt ' s faithful Fucker , is the Unique son of God
then Korea is TURKISH
n Oct 28, 11:08 pm, "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are other evidences that Shilla was closer to Hun than to Koguryo.
> Baekje and Koguryo shares the similar militaristic, martial art style rule
> which eventually became the Samurai tradition in Japan
>
> In this culture, if a general makes a mistake in a battle, he is given a
> sword to kill himself. This was a very strict tradition started from
> Koguryo.
>
> On the other hand, Shilla did not have this kind of strict martial art style
> rule which can be observed in history.
>
> Shilla Kings were closer to the people and they even had quite a few woman
> Kings in Shilla dynasty while Baekje and Koguryo had none.
> I think this is shared by the Hun tradition where the King is expected to be
> humble and be the lover of his/her people.
>
> And also, they were the advocates of the equality of man and woman.
>
> King Attila the Hun was recorded to have used a wooden cup while he let his
> guests to use golden cups in a guest invited dinner table. Where can you see
> this kind of humble tradition?
>
> What is the purpose of being a king if you are going to use a wooden cup
> while you let your guests to use the golden cups? Emperor Nero would faint
> after hearing this.
>
> Korean historians do not seem to notice this important discrepancy because
> this is an entirely different culture.
>
> Notice also that the Northern Euroepans allow the women kingship to this
> day.
>
> "Supertech" <ejeo...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:FdKdnZRYQ5NZi3rX...@giganews.com...
>
> > Hun and Koguryo existed side by side in the north of China. There are
> > ample evidences that they were the same people.culture One time in
> > history, when Chinese asked Koguryo to attack Hun together, because they
> > could not deal with Huns by themselves,
> > Koguryo attacked China instead and occupied one of their territories
> > referring that Huns are their brotherly neighbors.
>
> > Also, history records that one of the Kings of Shilla dynasty bragged that
> > he was a descendents of Hun roylaties.
>
> > I guess Shilla was closer to Huns, on the other hand, Baekje was close to
> > Koguryo and Puyeo.
>
> > In fact, the sound Hun is a slight variation of the original sound Han
> > which is one of the most pronounced words in Korea.
>
> > Ignorance is a bliss.
>
> > "Penang" <kalamb...@gmail.com> wrote in message
KLange
KLange
> Hun and Koguryo existed side by side in the north of China. There are ample
> evidences that they were the same people.
> One time in history, when Chinese asked Koguryo to attack Hun together,
> because they could not deal with Huns by themselves,
> Koguryo attacked China instead and occupied one of their territories
> referring that Huns are their brotherly neighbors.
If so, that could meant that the Koguryeo and Hun peoples were simply
good friends.
> Also, history records that one of the Kings of Shilla dynasty bragged that
> he was a descendents of Hun roylaties.
>
> I guess Shilla was closer to Huns, on the other hand, Baekje was close to
> Koguryo and Puyeo.
>
> In fact, the sound Hun is a slight variation of the original sound Han which
> is one of the most pronounced words in Korea.
That doesn't necessarily mean anything either way. Just because two
words sound similar doesn't mean that they're related.
Han is also what the Chinese refer to themselves, if I'm not mistaken.
Does that mean that the Chinese and Korean peoples are the same?
KLange
> That's true. Look at the face of Hitler, he can not be a pure Caucasian. On
> the other hand, how strongly did he advocate the blue eyed, blond haired
> Arian purity?
Actually, Hitler was of the ALpine type, if i'm not mistaken. The
Alpine type was caucasian. Probably originated to a large degree with
the people who lived in the area before the coming of the Indo-
Europeans.
>
> I'm sure the King Attila the Hun loved them very much like Hitler did.
>
> In fact, he gave them all the gold(hundreds of tons) he took from Rome for
> his children(Prince and Princesses) he got from his over 200 local
> wives(Queens).
>
> Now you see why the European landscape has suddenly changed after the Hun's
> invasion of Europe.
> Rome(Italians) has become poor, while the Germanic tribes have become rich
> from this point on in history.
Because they took the wealth from Rome.
> Remember the Germanic tribes were called barbarians by the Romans before
> this time in history.
>
> Historians say Huns disappeared after the death of the King Attila the Hun.
Actually, the Huns probably scattered to the four directions and were
assimilated by the various other peoples of Europe.
Oh, and I just wanted to know if any Japonic languages were ever
spoken in the Korean pennesula. Whether by the Koguryeo people or
anyone else.
Supertech
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Good question. Han China who later conquered the divided Chin dynasty was
located near San Dong. No one denies that Han China was established by the
Han race. The sound simply carried over. Over all, united Han China was a
colony of Han race in ancieit times. They developed their own culture after
being separated out from the main and then acted like a main themselves
because of their own(large) size. And they departed themselves from the
original Hun tradition very far.
However, for example, when the sound Han is attached to a person in Chinese
character, it means the tall and flamboyant man of San Dong area. When it is
attached to a river it means a big river. The meaning of BIG on Han in
Chinese character also came from the original Korean langunage. The
existence of the mutual cultural influence is undeniable.
Supertech
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There are two different kinds of counting languages in Korea.
Hana, Dul, Set, Net...
and Il, Yi, Sam, Sa, for one, two, three, four, in English
Il, Yi, Sam, Sa is very close to Ich, Ni, San, Si of Japanese counting
language.
These kind of similarities are everywhere between Korean and Japanese
languages.
If you learn a little deeper, you will see that they are fundamentally the
same languages.
Now, I think, Il, Yi, Sam, Sa is a Koguryo style counting and Hana, Dul,
Set, Net is Shila and Hun counting system.
See the words, Hana(one), Haneul(heaven), Han Kang(Han river), Han Gul
(Korean letter system) etc
You can't hardly say a sentence without pronouncing Han in Korean language.
Supertech
person.
Obviously, the King Attila the Hun was not a Turkish.
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the 8 century BC according to Wiki.
This was due to the another wave of Hun people's invasion in this area
before Attila the Hun invaded Europe in the 4th century AD. They spoke
Hunic(Ural Altaic) language also. This fact made a confusion in the minds of
the people in the same period of time in the 4th century AD that the people
Attila the Hun brought with him were Schythians. You all are still wrong.
The people may have been the same but the time line is vastly different. And
also by this time, Hunic people were already mingled with the locals for
centuries that Scythians would not have looked any similar to King Attila
the Hun. The only thing they may have left would have been the peculiar
Hunic language Turks still use.
How do we know this?
Because Hun people's advancemnt toward this area happend already twice in
the known history.
Once by Attila the Hun in the 4th century AD and the other by Mongols in the
12th century AD. It could have happened in the 4th century BC if we
speculate the 800 years of cycle of Hun people's rise up and advancement
toward the West. History is not very well organized around this time, so, no
one really knows what really happened.
Notice the 4th century BC, 4th century AD, 12th century AD, 20th centruy AD,
it is all 800 years cycle.
So, now is about the time for the Hun people to rise up and conquer the
world.
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I think you are over stretching the Hun story .
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Scythians were already known by the Greeks as somewhat of out of place in
terms of their language and culture. So, naturally, they thought Huns were
Scythians. The only problem with this conjecture was that Scythians were
Huns who have already heavily mixed with the local Caucasoid for many
centuries by the time Attila the Hun invaded Europe. And Attila the Hun
according to Priscus didn't look in any way close to the present look of any
of the Turks.
The theory that Turks were Huns is not exactly correct because of these
facts.
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