Was Japonic or Old Japanese languages spoken in Korea?
KLange
evidence available indicates that the extinct language of Goguryeo is
cognate with Old Japanese, but not related with the Korean language
which derived from that of Silla. Also, it's been said that the two
states of Goguryeo and Baekje were both descended from the old state
of Buyeo, and that Baekje not only has ethnic similarities with
Goguryeo but also has extensive ties with Japan, and as a result, the
states of Goguryo, Baekje were speculated to have been old Japonic
states, in addition to Yamato Japan. Whereas modern Korea derived from
Silla, which is ethnically more distant.
On the other hand, linguists who disagree with the theory states that
toponymes (place names) found in the central part of Korean peninsula
may not be of Goguryeo origin, but instead a previous substratum
language of the central and southern part of Korean peninsula, namely
a indigenous Japonic lanuage present in prehistoric times. Some proof
of this argument are as follows.
None of the Japanese-like toponymes have been found in northern Korea
or south-west Manchuria where the historical homeland of Buyeo and
Goguryeo were situated.
Also, some Japanese-like toponymes (such as Japanese-like numeral
found in historical homeland of Silla) are also found in southern
Korea.
What are your opinions on the matter?
KLange
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the collapse of its dynasty by Shilla and Tang coalition, fled to Japan,
formed a group named Yamato faction and established the unified Japan state
in and around 4-5 century AD( about the same time Attila the Hun conquered
Western Europe).
Naturally, Korean originated Baekje Kingship started the Emperor family of
Japan. Also, naturally, they have ample ground to grind axes toward the
Shilla ruled Korean state and also toward China as you may have seen in the
recent modern history. The Buyeo tribal kingship was the originator of
Koguryo and Baekje dynasty in the beginning.
In all of the Korean history text books, Japan has been consistently
referred to as being midgets, half naked and barbarous people, therefore,
being a ruler of Japan was not that much of a glory to those fled to Japan,
neither to the perception of the Shilla people. These inferior complex can
manifest itself anytime with violence if proper chances are given with guns
and a little bit of early modern technology.
This was the only major historical involvement of Japan and Korea. There is
no prior Japon influence toward the northern Asia. It didn't happen.
Note the center of the worldwide conquetorial expansion of the
Koguryo(Buyeo) people started in and around northern BaekDu mountain and in
and around the 4th century AD.
It reached England to the far west by Attila the Hun and to the far east to
Japan by Yamato.
But they were all the same people.
They called collectively themselves as Hun or Han, meaning BIG and great.
Koreans still call themselves Dae Han(Hun) Min Kuk (great Hun people's
nation).
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conclusively known from .where the Huns came from, although it is
possibly Western China, .but you are taking a HUGE leap to say they
are the same people as those who lived on the Korean peninsula. It
sounds like wishful thinking on your part, so please provide
references and links to all your claims.
Also, can you answer the original question again and this time
directly address the question asked rather than veering off into
unrelated emotional arguments. Leave the nationalism to one side and
just discuss this fascinating historical question.