The Roman salute: Made in the U.S.A. ?
rexitis
historical fact is missing from the otherwise great book "Fascist Spectacle"
by Simonetta Falasca-Zamponi. It is an awesome book, but it is another
source of the "Roman salute" myth . Falasca-Zamponi incorrectly explains the
straight arm salute made infamous by the National Socialist German Workers'
Party. http://members.ij.net/rex/pledgesalute.html
To see scary historic photos of children in government schools in the U.S.
chanting the Pledge of Allegiance with the straight-arm salute visit
http://members.ij.net/rex/pledge1.html
The book's lack of evidence supports the historic discovery by the
libertarian journalist Rex Curry that the straight-arm salute originated
with the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance, which was created by a self-proclaimed
National Socialist in the U.S., Francis Bellamy, who originally used the
straight-armed salute. The salute was then used in famous films in the early
1900's, often in fictitious "Roman" scenes, and including a film that
involved D'Annunzio entitled "Cabiria" (1914) and written of elsewhere. It
is interesting that Falasca-Zamponi discusses D'Annunzio in regard to the
salute, but never mentions the movie "Cabiria."
Another influence for the "Roman salute" myth is "The Oath of the Horatii" a
famous painting by Jacques-Louis David in 1784, that inaccurately depicts an
event, and it is an event that might not have even happened.
http://members.ij.net/rex/pledgehoratii.html
Falasca-Zamponi's salute error arises in a booknote to "The March of
Fascism" by Giuseppe A. Borgese (1937). Borgese repeated the myth of the
Roman salute and also provided no reference to any actual ancient source,
only Borgese's own general assertions without support.
Fascist Spectacle: The Aesthetics of Power in Mussolini's Italy (Studies on
the History of Society and Culture)
also never once uses the actual name of the "National Socialist German
Workers' Party." It uses the usual hackneyed shorthand. That type of
writing bias inspired the "Not say Nazi" movement via people who pledge to
never say or write the abbreviation and to always use the full phrase.
Falasco-Zamponi's blindness explains why he failed to make any tie into the
National Socialists in the U.S. and the socialist salute there using the
straight-arm.
The book also never mentions the Swastika and thus fails to discuss the
newer argument made by the journalist Rex Curry that one of the reasons why
the Swastika was chosen or maintained as a symbol by the National Socialist
German Workers' Party is that the swastika resembles two 'S' runes (ancient
German letters) overlapping to represent "Socialism" or "Socialist" groups
joining together as the horrid National Socialist German Workers' Party.
The sick socialist swastika is also a good mnemonic device to remember that
Nazis were self-proclaimed socialists because it resembles two "S" letters
overlapping and the Nazis often used stylized "S" lettering in their
symbols. http://members.ij.net/rex/swastikanews.html
The book provides a lot of good information about how Benito Mussolini was a
socialist who joined with the National Socialist German Workers' Party. He
was the leader of the Socialist Party of Italy. Like many modern media
Mussolinis, he was a socialist and a journalist. Between 1912 and 1914 he
was the editor of the Socialist Party newspaper, "L'Avanti."
In late 1937, Mussolini visited Germany and pledged himself to support the
National Socialist German Workers' Party.
According to Falasco-Zamponi, the socialist straight-arm salute was used by
Mussolini before it was used by the National Socialist German Workers'
Party, and that makes sense in that D'Annunzio definitely used the salute
before either one of the others did. Mussolini worked with D'Annunzio. Of
course, the U.S. preceded them all, using the salute beginning in 1892.
After Mussonlini's trip to Germany, He definitely stepped up promotion of
the straight-arm salute, to underline ideological kinship with the National
Socialist German Workers' Party and to impress it's leader.
Falasco-Zamponi also provides ammo that the "passo romano" or "Roman step"
(goose step) should have been called the "Socialist step," as it wasn't
Roman at all, and was borrowed by Mussolini from the National Socialist
German Workers' Party.
The so-called "Roman salute" (saluto romano) is as much of a fiction as the
so-called "Roman step" (passo romano) as is the idea that the National
Socialist German Workers' Party emulated Mussolini and not vice versa.
The most notorious instance of Italy imitating the National Socialist German
Workers' Party was in the racist laws imposed in November 1938.
WWII began in 1939 when Poland was invaded by the National Socialist German
Workers' Party and by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, as allies in
their scheme to divide up Eastern Europe. Thereafter came the Holocaust and
the bigger socialist "Wholecaust" in which millions were slaughtered.
http://members.ij.net/rex/socialistwar.html
It would have been wonderful if the Falasca-Zamponi had examined the many
other ways in which the world's socialist monsters were influenced by
national socialists in the U.S. (including Francis Bellamy) who in 1892
created the Pledge of Allegiance with its original straight-arm salute, to
promote a government takeover of education (with racist/segregated schools
that lasted into the '60s), to produce an "industrial army" for the
totalitarian vision portrayed in Edward Bellamy's book "Looking Backward."
http://members.ij.net/rex/pledgebackward.html
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MirTopolskiRex
> The U.S. Pledge of Allegiance originally used a straight-arm salute. That
> historical fact is missing from the otherwise great book "Fascist Spectacle"
> by Simonetta Falasca-Zamponi. It is an awesome book, but it is another
> source of the "Roman salute" myth . Falasca-Zamponi incorrectly explains the
> straight arm salute made infamous by the National Socialist German Workers'
> Party. http://members.ij.net/rex/pledgesalute.html
> [...]
Cool. So the yanks invented both the concentration camps and Roman
salute and helped in financing Hitler's NSDAP. Now US$ banknotes proudly
present a pyramid with eye ... hidden Amon-Ra connections?
rexitis
flip to now learn about this known reality: the Union of Soviet Socialist
Republics slaughtered 62 million; the People's Republic of China slaughtered
35 million; and the National Socialist German Workers' Party slaughtered 21
million (numbers from Professor R. J. Rummel's article in the Encyclopedia
of Genocide (1999)) and that is the socialist Wholecaust and that is why
they are known as the "socialist trio of atrocities"
http://members.ij.net/rex/socialists.jpg
Socialists are nuclear bombs. Socialism is nuclear war.
SmigS
the ancient Romans army.
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Mussolini did more than dictate America's stiff-armed gesture: He imposed the gesture along with robotic chanting to the flag in government schools (socialist schools) as had been the practice in the USA since 1892. On January 31, 1923, the Ministry of Education imposed a mechanical incantation to the flag in schools and the creepy scene was immortalized by the photographer Stefano Stagnoli in his photograph "The Promise to the Fatherland."
https://tinnyray.wordpress.com/2015/10/11/dr-rex-curry-the-historian-debunks-mussolinis-focialism-and-the-bellamy-salute-in-pledge-of-allegiance/
Mussolini learned the American stiff-armed salute when he was a socialist, and he learned of it from the socialist Gabrielle D'Annunzio, who learned it from old early movies (from the USA) that utilized the widespread use of the gesture in the United States' Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag (the practice had been occurring for about three decades in the USA -from 1892).
http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-carl-jung.html
A web search for "Gabriele d'Annunzio was also a socialist" (or in Italian "Gabriele d'Annunzio fu anche socialista") reveals his socialist history (Don't bother with Wakipedia, as it will never tell readers that Gabriele d'Annunzio was a socialist. Wikipedia does not want anyone to know. The rest of the web reveals what wakipedia hides). Few know that the poet was deputy of the Socialist Party, and even a candidate in 1900. He set up the short-lived Italian Regency of Carnaro in Fiume with himself as Duce. D'Annunzio's socialist ideals emerged in Fiume when he coauthored a constitution. The constitution established a socialist state with nine sectors of collectivization to represent the different sectors of the economy (workers, employers, professionals), and a tenth (D'Annunzio's invention) to represent the "superior" human beings (heroes, poets, prophets, supermen). It established a Technical Council of Labour. The Carta also declared that music was the fundamental principle of the state.
https://minarchist.wordpress.com/2015/10/11/dr-rex-curry-debunks-fascist-spectacle-by-simonetta-falasca-zamponi-re-bellamy-salute-focialism/
Mussolini was inspired by D'Annunzio's socialist sectors. As Mussolini began his fascitization of socialism, he also adopted the American stiff-armed salute and the accompanying robotic group-speak already prevalent under U.S. socialism. The ritual is shown in the book "Fascist Spectacle: The Aesthetics of Power in Mussolini's Italy" by Simonetta Falasca-Zamponi (2000), p. 110 in a photograph with this notation: "Figure 15. Schoolchildren saluting the flag ("The Promise to the Fatherland," by Stagnoli)." The book appears to be available online at http://s1.downloadmienphi.net/file/downloadfile4/270/1393937.pdf
https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/16367725/fascist-spectaclepdf/67
The author Falasca-Zamponi appears to be unaware of the use of the gesture in the U.S. from 1892, and the author appears to be unaware of the discovery by the historian Dr. Rex Curry that the USA's Pledge of Allegiance was the origin of the salute/gesture along with the ritual chanting to the nation's flag (from 1892).
http://www.amazon.ca/review/R2K1XVBS783VZS
Falasca-Zamponi also perpetuates widespread ignorance about the mis-named Roman salute myth. She appears to be unaware that the gesture was NOT an ancient Roman salute, and that the so-called "Roman salute" myth arose because Francis Bellamy was from the city of Rome in the state of New York (not in Italy).
Articles from as far back as 2004 explain how Dr. Curry's work debunked Falasco-Zamponi regarding the "Roman salute" myth and the origin of the gesture.
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.culture.italian/HHWHBRfNI-c
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.culture.russian/HHWHBRfNI-c
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/soc.culture.german/HHWHBRfNI-c
Mussolini "honored" the city of Rome in the state of New York by presenting the city with a statue of the Capitoline wolf. The statue remains on display in Rome, NY.
https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/edward-bellamy/17847364258/
https://www.flickr.com/photos/38869245@N05/17847364258
http://picssr.com/photos/7894913@N08/page2?nsid=7894913@N08
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B014BU8L1E
Achille Starace, the Italian Fascist Party secretary, pushed for measures to make the use of the Roman salute generally compulsory, denouncing hand shaking as "bourgeois" (using stereotypically socialist language).
The following is an open letter to the author mentioned above.
OPEN LETTER to: Simonetta Falasca-Zamponi
author of Fascist Spectacle: The Aesthetics of Power in Mussolini's Italy (2000)
Was the USA's Pledge of Allegiance the origin of the stiff-armed "Fascist" salute/gesture? I read your book and you do not appear to be aware of the discovery by the historian Dr. Rex Curry that the USA's Pledge of Allegiance was the origin of the salute/gesture along with the ritual chanting to the nation's flag (from 1892). Were you even aware of USA's use of the gesture from 1892?
Thank you.
news.jo...@gmail.com
> the original straight-arm salute was used for the first time near 60 B.C. by
> the ancient Romans army.
