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Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media
MARCH 16, 2009
tags: ABC, America, Buena Vista Television, Caravan Pictures, CBS,
deceptions, disinformation, Eisner, FM stations, Fox Tv, HBO,
Hollywood, Jew, Jewish, Jewish Media Control, Jewish Newspapers, Lies,
Media, Miramax Films, NBC, New York Times, Sony Corporation, Time
Warner, Touchstone Television, United States, USA, Wall Street
Journal, Walt Disney, Walt Disney Television, Washington Post, Zionist
by pakalert
120 Votes

The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the
price of collective stupidity.
“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that
we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White
House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president
can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable.
What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control
the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.
In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”
Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

Facts of Jewish Media Control

Electronic News & Entertainment Media

The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose
chairman and CEO, Michael Eisner, is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed
by a man described by one media analyst as a “control freak”, includes
several television production companies (Walt Disney Television,
Touchstone Television, Buena Vista Television), its own cable network
with 14 million subscribers, and two video production companies. As
for feature films, the Walt Disney Picture Group, headed by Joe Roth
(also a Jew), includes Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, and
Caravan Pictures. Disney also owns Miramax Films, run by the Weinstein
brothers. When the Disney Company was run by the Gentile Disney family
prior to its takeover by Eisner in 1984, it epitomized wholesome,
family entertainment. While it still holds the rights to Snow White,
under Eisner, the company has expanded into the production of graphic
sex and violence. In addition, it has 225 affiliated stations in the
United States and is part owner of several European TV companies.
ABC’s cable subsidiary, ESPN, is headed by president and CEO Steven
Bornstein, a Jew. This corporation also has a controlling share of
Lifetime Television and the Arts & Entertainment Network cable
companies. ABC Radio Network owns eleven AM and ten FM stations, again
in major cities such as New York, Washington, Los Angeles, and has
over 3,400 affiliates. Although primarily a telecommunications
company, Capital Cities/ABC earned over $1 billion in publishing in
1994. It owns seven daily newspapers, Fairchild Publications, Chilton
Publications, and the Diversified Publishing Group. Time Warner, Inc,
is the second of the international media leviathans. The chairman of
the board and CEO, Gerald Levin, is a Jew. Time Warner’s subsidiary
HBO is the country’s largest pay-TV cable network. Warner Music is by
far the world’s largest record company, with 50 labels, the biggest of
which is Warner Brothers Records, headed by Danny Goldberg. Stuart
Hersch is president of Warnervision, Warner Music’s video production
unit. Goldberg and Hersch are Jews. Warner Music was an early promoter
of “gangsta rap.” Through its involvement with Interscope Records, it
helped popularize a genre whose graphic lyrics explicitly urge Blacks
to commit acts of violence against Whites. In addition to cable and
music, Time Warner is heavily involved in the production of feature
films (Warner Brothers Studio) and publishing. Time Warner’s
publishing division (editor-in-chief Norman Pearlstine, a Jew) is the
largest magazine publisher in the country (Time, Sports Illustrated,
People, Fortune). When Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in
1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner
made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV
news network, CNN.

Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions
in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish
interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and
was regarded by Chairman William Paley (real name Palinsky, a Jew) and
the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at
some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish newsman
Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his
former boss held a personal dislike for Jews. To block Turner’s bid,
CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance,
and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a “friendly” takeover
of the company, and from 1986 till 1995 Tisch was the chairman and CEO
of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there. Subsequent
efforts by Turner to acquire a major network have been obstructed by
Levin’s Time Warner, which owns nearly 20 percent of CBS stock and has
veto power over major deals. Viacom, Inc, headed by Sumner Redstone
(born Murray Rothstein), a Jew, is the third largest megamedia
corporation in the country, with revenues of over $10 billion a year.
Viacom, which produces and distributes TV programs for the three
largest networks, owns 12 television stations and 12 radio stations.
It produces feature films through Paramount Pictures, headed by Jewess
Sherry Lansing. Its publishing division includes Prentice Hall, Simon
& Schuster, and Pocket Books. It distributes videos through over 4,000
Blockbuster stores. Viacom’s chief claim to fame, however, is as the
world’s largest provider of cable programming, through its Showtime,
MTV, Nickelodeon, and other networks. Since 1989, MTV and Nickelodeon
have acquired larger and larger shares of the younger television
audience. With the top three, and by far the largest, media companies
in the hand of Jews, it is difficult to believe that such an
overwhelming degree of control came about without a deliberate,
concerted effort on their part. What about the other big media
companies? Number four on the list is Rupert Murdoch’s News
Corporation, which owns Fox Television and 20th Century Fox Films.
Murdoch is a Gentile, but Peter Chermin, who heads Murdoch’s film
studio and also oversees his TV production, is a Jew. Number five is
the Japanese Sony Corporation, whose U.S. subsidiary, Sony Corporation
of America, is run by Michael Schulhof, a Jew. Alan Levine, another
Jew, heads the Sony Pictures division. Most of the television and
movie production companies that are not owned by the largest
corporations are also controlled by Jews. For example, New World
Entertainment, proclaimed by one media analyst as “the premiere
independent TV program producer in the United States,” is owned by
Ronald Perelman, a Jew. The best known of the smaller media companies,
Dreamworks SKG, is a strictly kosher affair. Dream Works was formed in
1994 amid great media hype by recording industry mogul David Geffen,
former Disney Pictures chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg, and film director
Steven Spielberg, all three of whom are Jews. The company produces
movies, animated films, television programs, and recorded music. Two
other large production companies, MCA and Universal Pictures, are both
owned by Seagram Company, Ltd. The president and CEO of Seagram, the
liquor giant, is Edgar Bronfman Jr., who is also president of the
World Jewish Congress. It is well known that Jews have controlled the
production and distribution of films since the inception of the movie
industry in the early decades of the 20th century. This is still the
case today. Films produced by just the five largest motion picture
companies mentioned above-Disney, Warner Brothers, Sony, Paramount
(Viacom), and Universal (Seagram)-accounted for 74 per cent of the
total box-office receipts for the first eight months of 1995. The big
three in television network broadcasting used to be ABC, CBS, and NBC.
With the consolidation of the media empires, these three are no longer
independent entities. While they were independent, however, each was
controlled by a Jew since its inception: ABC by Leonard Goldenson, CBS
first by William Paley and then by Lawrence Tisch, and NBC first by
David Sarnoff and then by his son Robert. Over periods of several
decades, these networks were staffed from top to bottom with Jews, and
the essential Jewishness of network television did not change when the
networks were absorbed by other corporations. The Jewish presence in
television news remains particularly strong. As noted, ABC is part of
Eisner’s Disney Company, and the executive producers of ABC’s news
programs are all Jews: Victor Neufeld (20-20), Bob Reichbloom (Good
Morning America), and Rick Kaplan (World News Tonight). CBS was
recently purchased by Westinghouse Electric Corporation. Nevertheless,
the man appointed by Lawrence Tisch, Eric Ober, remains president of
CBS News, and Ober is a Jew. At NBC, now owned by General Electric,
NBC News president Andrew Lack is a Jew, as are executive producers
Jeff Zucker (Today), Jeff Gralnick (NBC Nightly News), and Neal
Shapiro (Dateline). The Print Media After television news, daily
newspapers are the most influential information medium in America.
Sixty million of them are sold (and presumably read) each day. These
millions are divided among some 1,500 different publications. One
might conclude that the sheer number of different newspapers across
America would provide a safeguard against Jewish control and
distortion. However, this is not the case. There is less independence,
less competition, and much less representation of our interests than a
casual observer would think. The days when most cities and even towns
had several independently owned newspapers published by local people
with close ties to the community are gone. Today, most “local”
newspapers are owned by a rather small number of large companies
controlled by executives who live and work hundreds or ever thousands
of miles away. The fact is that only about 25 per cent of the
country’s 1,500 papers are independently owned; the rest belong to
multi-newspaper chains. Only a handful are large enough to maintain
independent reporting staffs outside their own communities; the rest
depend on these few for all of their national and international news.
The Newhouse empire of Jewish brothers Samuel and Donald Newhouse
provides an example of more than the lack of real competition among
America’s daily newspapers: it also illustrates the insatiable
appetite Jews have shown for all the organs of opinion control on
which they could fasten their grip. The Newhouses own 26 daily
newspapers, including several large and important ones, such as the
Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans
Times-Picayune; the nation’s largest trade book publishing
conglomerate, Random House, with all its subsidiaries; Newhouse
Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television broadcasting stations and 87
cable-TV systems, including some of the country’s largest cable
networks; the Sunday supplement Parade, with a circulation of more
than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen major magazines,
including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madmoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair,
Bride’s, Gentlemen’s Quarterly, Self, House & Garden, and all the
other magazines of the wholly owned Conde Nast group. This Jewish
media empire was founded by the late Samuel Newhouse, an immigrant
from Russia. The gobbling up of so many newspapers by the Newhouse
family was in large degree made possible by the fact that newspapers
are not supported by their subscribers, but by their advertisers. It
is advertising revenue–not the small change collected from a
newspaper’s readers–that largely pays the editor’s salary and yields
the owner’s profit. Whenever the large advertisers in a city choose to
favor one newspaper over another with their business, the favored
newspaper will flourish while its competitor dies. Since the beginning
of the 20th century, when Jewish mercantile power in America became a
dominant economic force, there has been a steady rise in the number of
American newspapers in Jewish hands, accompanied by a steady decline
in the number of competing Gentile newspapers–primarily as a result of
selective advertising policies by Jewish merchants. Furthermore, even
those newspapers still under Gentile ownership and management are so
thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising revenue that their
editorial and news reporting policies are largely constrained by
Jewish likes and dislikes. It holds true in the newspaper business as
elsewhere that he who pays the piper calls the tune.

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Three Jewish Newspapers

The suppression of competition and the establishment of local
monopolies on the dissemination of news and opinion have characterized
the rise of Jewish control over America’s newspapers. The resulting
ability of the Jews to use the press as an unopposed instrument of
Jewish policy could hardly be better illustrated than by the examples
of the nation’s three most prestigious and influential newspapers: the
New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post.
These three, dominating America’s financial and political capitals,
are the newspapers which set the trends and the guidelines for nearly
all the others. They are the ones which decide what is news and what
isn’t, at the national and international levels. They originate the
news; the others merely copy it, and all three newspapers are in
Jewish hands. The New York Times was founded in 1851 by two Gentiles,
Henry Raymond and George Jones. After their deaths, it was purchased
in 1896 from Jones’s estate by a wealthy Jewish publisher, Adolph
Ochs. His great-grandson, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., is the paper’s
current publisher and CEO. The executive editor is Max Frankel, and
the managing editor is Joseph Lelyveld. Both of the latter are also
Jews. The Sulzberger family also owns, through the New York Times Co.,
33 other newspapers, including the Boston Globe; twelve magazines,
including McCall’s and Family Circle with circulations of more than 5
million each; seven radio and TV broadcasting stations; a cable-TV
system; and three book publishing companies. The New York Times News
Service transmits news stories, features, and photographs from the New
York Times by wire to 506 other newspapers, news agencies, and
magazines. Of similar national importance is the Washington Post,
which, by establishing its “leaks” throughout government agencies in
Washington, has an inside track on news involving the Federal
government. The Washington Post, like the New York Times, had a non-
Jewish origin. It was established in 1877 by Stilson Hutchins,
purchased from him in 1905 by John McLean, and later inherited by
Edward McLean. In June 1933, however, at the height of the Great
Depression, the newspaper was forced into bankruptcy. It was purchased
at a bankruptcy auction by Eugene Meyer, a Jewish financier. The
Washington Post is now run by Katherine Meyer Graham, Eugene Meyer’s
daughter. She is the principal stockholder and the board chairman of
the Washington Post Co. In 1979, she appointed her son Donald
publisher of the paper. He now also holds the posts of president and
CEO of the Washington Post Co. The Washington Post Co. has a number of
other media holdings in newspapers, television, and magazines, most
notably the nation’s number-two weekly newsmagazine, Newsweek. The
Wall Street Journal, which sells 1.8 million copies each weekday, is
the nation’s largest-circulation daily newspaper. It is owned by Dow
Jones & Company, Inc., a New York corporation which also publishes 24
other daily newspapers and the weekly financial tabloid Barron’s,
among other things. The chairman and CEO of Dow Jones is Peter Kann,
who is a Jew. Kann also holds the posts of chairman and publisher of
the Wall Street Journal. Most of New York’s other major newspapers are
in no better hands than the New York Times and the Wall Street
Journal. The New York Daily News is owned by Jewish real-estate
developer Mortimer B. Zuckerman. The Village Voice is the personal
property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of the Hartz
Mountain pet supply firm.

Other Mass Media

The story is pretty much the same for other media as it is for
television, radio, and newspapers. Consider, for example,
newsmagazines. There are only three of any note published in the
United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News and World Report. Time,
with a weekly circulation of 4.1 million, is published by a susidiary
of Time Warner Communications. The CEO of Time Warner Communications,
as mentioned above, is Gerald Levin, a Jew. Newsweek, as mentioned
above, is published by the Washington Post Company, under the Jewess
Katherine Meyer Graham. Its weekly circulation is 3.2 million. U.S.
News & World Report, with a weekly circulation of 2.3 million, is
owned and published by Mortimer Zuckerman, a Jew. Zuckerman also owns
the Atlantic Monthly and New York’s tabloid newspaper, the Daily News,
which is the sixth-largest paper in the country. Among the giant book-
publishing conglomerates, the situation is also Jewish. Three of the
six largest book publishers in the U.S., according to Publisher’s
Weekly, are owned or controlled by Jews. The three are first-place
Random House (with its many subsidiaries, including Crown Publishing
Group), third-place Simon & Schuster, and sixth-place Time Warner
Trade Group (including Warner Books and Little, Brown). Another
publisher of special significance is Western Publishing. Although it
ranks only 13th in size among all U.S. publishers, it ranks first
among publishers of children’s books, with more than 50 percent of the
market. Its chairman and CEO is Richard Snyder, a Jew, who just
replaced Richard Bernstein, also a Jew.

The Effect of Jewish Control of the Media

These are the facts of Jewish media control in America. Anyone willing
to spend several hours in a large library can verify their accuracy. I
hope that these facts are disturbing to you, to say the least. Should
any minority be allowed to wield such awesome power? Certainly, not
and allowing a people with beliefs such as expressed in the Talmud, to
determine what we get to read or watch in effect gives this small
minority the power to mold our minds to suit their own Talmudic
interests, interests which as we have demonstrated are diametrically
opposed to the interests of our people. By permitting the Jews to
control our news and entertainment media, we are doing more than
merely giving them a decisive influence on our political system and
virtual control of our government; we also are giving them control of
the minds and souls of our children, whose attitudes and ideas are
shaped more by Jewish television and Jewish films than by their
parents, their schools, or any other influence.

Additional Research:

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Zionist, Jewish Hollywood’s Brainwashing Of America

“We, The Jewish People, Control America”

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The Zionist Elephant In The Room


The International Jew – by Henry Ford

The Tribe That Controls America


How Jewish is Hollywood?

The Spiritual War

No One Talks About Israel’s Spying On America!

Video: US Policy Influenced By Zionist Media And Neocon Agenda

Israeli Spokesman Says We Control Stupid Americans

The Mossad’s Infiltration Of America

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A Message To The World On The Obama Inauguration

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On Sep 23, 5:17 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media

Saying so makes you anti-Semitic, a Jew hater, and a Nazi. Hell, you
have
a big picture of Hitler in the den of your double-wide, and you
married your
sister and you hate Jews because you are jealous of their success
while
you sit there with bill collectors constantly banging on your door.
You have
a 1978 Ford Granada on blocks out front and a ratty old couch for lawn
furniture.

Did i leave anything out?

> MARCH 16, 2009
> tags: ABC, America, Buena Vista Television, Caravan Pictures, CBS,
> deceptions, disinformation, Eisner, FM stations, Fox Tv, HBO,
> Hollywood, Jew, Jewish, Jewish Media Control, Jewish Newspapers, Lies,
> Media, Miramax Films, NBC, New York Times, Sony Corporation, Time
> Warner, Touchstone Television, United States, USA, Wall Street
> Journal, Walt Disney, Walt Disney Television, Washington Post, Zionist
> by pakalert
> 120 Votes
>
> The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the
> price of collective stupidity.
> “You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that
> we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White
> House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president
> can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable.
> What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control
> the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.
> In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”
> Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

Nice one. It may be good for a sig file.

drahcir

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Sep 23, 2010, 10:06:11 AM9/23/10
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LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
disney 5 years ago. Thanks to HHW, sci's most prolific fuckup, for
this! Of course, this is besides the point that having a jewish ceo
does not make a company "jewish". I just love watching HHW sink into
the gutter - it's a beautiful thing.

Aviroce

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Sep 23, 2010, 10:35:29 AM9/23/10
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SPECIAL INTEREST GROUP IS ZIONIST PLUS JEWISH COMMUNITY
By Aviroce

This is just a minute instance of Jewish influence. They show up in
different formats all across the United States working only for Jews
only. A message from the Obama Organized America indicates the fear
the democrats have from "SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS" now that
corporations have the unlimited resources to put propaganda political
ads against any candidate. Although the term "SPECIAL INTEREST
GROUPS" applies to any ethnic or just multiple ethnic group the Jewish
interest group is the most influencial. So the term is merely a
replica to that of the Neocons (Neoconservatives to mask Zionist or
Jewish.

Except for the different systems, the method used by Obama to get the
presidency is similar to that used by Hitler to get the dictatorship.
Hitler saw that Germany had been choked by Jews, the only gatekeepers
and only main professionals and business people. He got Nazism from
Zionism and used the system to disentangle Jews' grip on society.
Such grip was monopolistic. Hitler paid a price at the end as the
Jews convincing England to take Germany as colony with Jewish help
contracted with Poland on the War Powers. Poland invades Germany;
Germany attacks Poland; England attacks Germany; Germany attacks
England. We know Hitler wanted to demolish England and he did with
WWII. On the other hand, Obama appealled to the masses and used the
Interent to collect funds and organize in a unique way. He was able
to defeat "SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS." Ever since these groups, really
un-American, have been after him marking the difference between Hitler
and Obama. USA system does not allow for such open dictatorship; the
German did. Even the infamous George W. Bush did have a "SOPT GAP
DICTATORSHIP" (my term) but he could not go beyond the period between
the initial court ruling and final Supreme Court ruling.
Nevertheless, he subverted many freedom and hurt America and
Americans. Obama would never do that; he is a loyal American to the
masses and too intelligent yet surrounded by SPECIAL INTEREST GROUPS
to choke him.

Aviroce

On Sep 23, 2:17 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

> controlled by ...
>
> read more »

Hun Society

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On Sep 24, 12:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"

And is replaced with ...surprise-surprise!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Iger

"Robert Alan "Bob" Iger (born February 10, 1951) is the president and
chief executive officer of The Walt Disney Company. He was named
president of the company in 2000, and later succeeded Michael Eisner
as chief executive in 2005. Iger oversaw the acquisitions of Pixar in
2006 and of Marvel Entertainment in 2009.

Iger was born to Jewish[1] parents Mimi and Arthur Iger of Long Beach,
Long Island. His mother worked at Boardman Junior High School in
Oceanside, New York and his father was executive vice president and
general manager of the Greenvale Marketing Corporation, and a
professor of advertising and public relations."

> Thanks to HHW, sci's most prolific fuckup, for
> this! Of course, this is besides the point that having a jewish ceo
> does not make a company "jewish".

It doesn't - but but it would effect the company's propaganda
direction.

> I just love watching HHW sink into
> the gutter - it's a beautiful thing.

He can update his list, and will probably get the same overall result.

> ...
>
> read more »

drahcir

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Sep 23, 2010, 2:18:30 PM9/23/10
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So what, asshole? Sony America has a jewish ceo too. You think sony is
a jewish company? Sheesh, usenet is filled with morons.

Hun Society

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Sep 23, 2010, 2:25:51 PM9/23/10
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Did you read what I said?

"It doesn't - but but it would effect the company's propaganda
direction."

...I guess you didn't!

> ...
>
> read more »

drahcir

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You tried to make a point by suggesting that a jewish ceo means a
"jewish company" - if that's not true, why did you find the fact that
Disney has a jewish ceo important enough to post? Face facts - you're
full of shit. That you later contradict your point with a silly,
empty statement such as the above is irrelevant. The CEO is an
EMPLOYEE, just like any other. He is hired by a board to try to
realize the goals of the company. If he does not succeed in that
regard, he is let go. You'll really be in a fix were I so cruel as to
ask you to cite precisely what you are talking about by "the company's
(Disney's) propaganda direction" - but I won't embarrass you. As I
said, usenet is filled with morons just like you. BTW, the word you
want above is "affect", not "effect".

Hun Society

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On Sep 24, 4:36 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 11:25:51 -0700 (PDT), Hun Society
>
>
>

LoL - you are building a strawman. I merely pointed that he was
replaced
by another. A bit odd don't you think?

> That you later contradict your point with a silly,
> empty statement such as the above is irrelevant. The CEO is an
> EMPLOYEE, just like any other. He is hired by a board to try to
> realize the goals of the company. If he does not succeed in that
> regard, he is let go. You'll really be in a fix were I so cruel as to
> ask you to cite precisely what you are talking about by "the company's
> (Disney's) propaganda direction" - but I won't embarrass you. As I
> said, usenet is filled with morons just like you. BTW, the word you
> want above is "affect", not "effect".

The entire Disney repertoire is nothing but propaganda.
It does nothing but reinforce the ruling class political,
scientific ...etc.
public consumption image of the world only in more childish form. A
Jewish CEO is likely to have some direct and indirect control over
how
much of it fits with the Sect's agenda.

As for your Corporate Governance "lecture" - perhaps you should also
consider long term strategic goals of a Multinational wishing to have
the
option - to be able to obtain credit from Jewish Bankers! Hence a CEO
from the Sect.

> ...
>
> read more »

coaste...@yahoo.com

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On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"

> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
> disney 5 years ago.  

So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him? CEOs come and
go.

Thanks to HHW, sci's most prolific fuckup, for
> this!

Keep reading, Ratner.

You personally have caused this to be posted through your recent
offhand assertion that Jewish mainstream media concentration in the US
is an anti-Semitic lie. Dig in, please. Help yourself. But recall
that dominating Jewish influence in the "MSM" is not a secret. It's a
commonplace and it's based on fact, not "canard". But for how it's
been USED politically I probably wouldn't give a damn about it.

As to the reality of it we can rely on the word of Professors
Mearsheimer & Walt. We need not go further even though there is a lot
more evidence of it easily available and I can gather it until you're
up to your eyeballs. With each installment your only recourse will be
to attack the messenger as is the case here.

Of course, this is besides the point that having a jewish ceo
> does not make a company "jewish". I just love watching HHW sink into
> the gutter - it's a beautiful thing.

You are immune to the link between beauty and truth. Did you notice my
question mark in the original header? Feel free to question any of it,
Ratner. When it comes to the detail in this post I "can neither affirm
nor deny". You'll recognize the phrase, redolent of Richard Nixon and
Golda Meir, redolent of the nuclear arms race from Israel to Iran and
Pakistan---and of the block headed stupidity of Israel's strategic
leadership. They're good at game-planning America's short term
tactical responses to threats from the outside but they're dummerasels
when it comes to protecting their country over the long term.

You can't suppress the very existence of the major problems America
has had with our Jewish right wing's conflicts of interest, especially
since 1967. I understand the historic, European context, but it does
not justify the conflicts. We're Americans, not Germans. And 'the
gutter' is reserved for citizens who systematically work on behalf of
a foreign power to deflect us from our natural interests with feigned
"outrage" and "kiss of death" accusations of anti-Semitism along with
the corruption of our Congress and past administrations.

It's time for you to recognize that you haven't enough power to keep
this up indefinitely. No more 'wars of choice' over there, Ratner. No
more insolvency on the altar of Israel's aggression. Hillary Clinton
is right. This is Israel's last chance for the only settlement which
can preserve her, the two state solution. If you try you can rise up
from that gutter and help her. You can stop attacking the messenger.
There are now thousands of us who abhor the complicity we have fallen
into pursuant to the demands of the Israel Lobby--to say nothing of
the carnage and bankruptcy associated with it.

drahcir

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Sep 23, 2010, 6:02:15 PM9/23/10
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Ah, so you just found it, um, interesting, eh? You had no point
whatever in posting that Disney replaced Eisner with another Jew. I
see....

> A bit odd don't you think?

Only for a moron - non-morons know that Jews tend to be pretty good
businessmen.


>
>> That you later contradict your point with a silly,
>> empty statement such as the above is irrelevant. The CEO is an
>> EMPLOYEE, just like any other. He is hired by a board to try to
>> realize the goals of the company. If he does not succeed in that
>> regard, he is let go. You'll really be in a fix were I so cruel as to
>> ask you to cite precisely what you are talking about by "the company's
>> (Disney's) propaganda direction" - but I won't embarrass you. As I
>> said, usenet is filled with morons just like you. BTW, the word you
>> want above is "affect", not "effect".
>
>The entire Disney repertoire is nothing but propaganda.
>It does nothing but reinforce the ruling class political,
>scientific ...etc.

Oy, yet another fruitcake, and silly me, I asked him to step up onto
the soapbox. Live and loin....

>public consumption image of the world only in more childish form. A
>Jewish CEO is likely to have some direct and indirect control over
>how
>much of it fits with the Sect's agenda.
>
>As for your Corporate Governance "lecture" - perhaps you should also
>consider long term strategic goals of a Multinational wishing to have
>the
>option - to be able to obtain credit from Jewish Bankers! Hence a CEO
>from the Sect.

LOL! OK, enough philosophy - breaktime's over. Get back to your
griddlle - the Big Mac crowd's gonna be in soon and they're HUNGRY!

Sheesh - usenet philosophers - lucky for me I haven't recently eaten.

CUNTICA

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Sep 23, 2010, 6:16:16 PM9/23/10
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............................. drahcir, as Adolf Hitler banned Mickey
Mouse in Germany, perhaps their thinking goes to that the mouse was
Jewish? Just think, Ronald MacDonald, Bozo the Clown & Daffy Duck all
banned because they're Jewish; there's no limit?

Hun Society

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Sep 24, 2010, 1:57:03 AM9/24/10
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On Sep 24, 8:02 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:21:44 -0700 (PDT), Hun Society
>
>
>

Just pointed that YOU had no point.

> > A bit odd don't you think?
>
> Only for a moron - non-morons know that Jews tend to be pretty good
> businessmen.

A CEO is not a proprietor, moron. If he was a "good businessman" -
he'd be working
for himself, fool!

> >> That you later contradict your point with a silly,
> >> empty statement such as the above is irrelevant. The CEO is an
> >> EMPLOYEE, just like any other. He is hired by a board to try to
> >> realize the goals of the company. If he does not succeed in that
> >> regard, he is let go. You'll really be in a fix were I so cruel as to
> >> ask you to cite precisely what you are talking about by "the company's
> >> (Disney's) propaganda direction" - but I won't embarrass you. As I
> >> said, usenet is filled with morons just like you. BTW, the word you
> >> want above is "affect", not "effect".
>
> >The entire Disney repertoire is nothing but propaganda.
> >It does nothing but reinforce the ruling class political,
> >scientific ...etc.
>
> Oy, yet another fruitcake, and silly me, I asked him to step up onto
> the soapbox. Live and loin....

Can you try and NOT drink or consume drugs while posting ...if you
want
people to take you seriously?

> >public consumption image of the world only in more childish form. A
> >Jewish CEO is likely to have some direct and indirect control over
> >how
> >much of it fits with the Sect's agenda.
>
> >As for your Corporate Governance "lecture" - perhaps you should also
> >consider long term strategic goals of a Multinational wishing to have
> >the
> >option - to be able to obtain credit from Jewish Bankers! Hence a CEO
> >from the Sect.
>
> LOL! OK, enough philosophy - breaktime's over. Get back to your
> griddlle - the Big Mac crowd's gonna be in soon and they're HUNGRY!

What do I care?

> Sheesh - usenet philosophers - lucky for me I haven't recently eaten.

Damn right - go and stuff your face with junk food and stop making a
fool
of yourself!

> ...
>
> read more »

drahcir

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Sep 24, 2010, 8:53:29 AM9/24/10
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:57:03 -0700 (PDT), Hun Society
<hunso...@y7mail.com> wrote:

<snuo>


>> >> You tried to make a point by suggesting that a jewish ceo means a
>> >> "jewish company" - if that's not true, why did you find the fact that
>> >> Disney has a jewish ceo important enough to post? Face facts - you're
>> >> full of shit.
>>
>> >LoL - you are building a strawman. I merely pointed that he was
>> >replaced
>> >by another.
>>
>> Ah, so you just found it, um, interesting, eh? You had no point
>> whatever in posting that Disney replaced Eisner with another Jew. I
>> see....
>
>Just pointed that YOU had no point.

Listen, you moron, let me try to steer you. Here's what I wrote:

> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
> disney 5 years ago.

My SOLE point was that the article's very first sentence was wrong.
YOU, on the other hand, becuase you are an antisemitic moron, somehow
twisted that in your, ahem, "mind" to mean that I cited that as proof
that disney was not a "jewish company", and you jumped in to the
conversation, triumphantly showing that I was wrong, that disney IS in
fact a "jewish company" by virtue of the fact that they hired a jewish
ceo to replace eisner. Next time, try to think before you push "send"
(I realize that that's asking the impossible).


>> > A bit odd don't you think?
>>
>> Only for a moron - non-morons know that Jews tend to be pretty good
>> businessmen.
>
>A CEO is not a proprietor, moron. If he was a "good businessman" -
>he'd be working
>for himself, fool!

LOL! Hunny hereby pronounces that all ceo's are lousy businessmen
because if they were any good, they'd be working for themselves. So
says our resident burger flipper.

>
>> >> That you later contradict your point with a silly,
>> >> empty statement such as the above is irrelevant. The CEO is an
>> >> EMPLOYEE, just like any other. He is hired by a board to try to
>> >> realize the goals of the company. If he does not succeed in that
>> >> regard, he is let go. You'll really be in a fix were I so cruel as to
>> >> ask you to cite precisely what you are talking about by "the company's
>> >> (Disney's) propaganda direction" - but I won't embarrass you. As I
>> >> said, usenet is filled with morons just like you. BTW, the word you
>> >> want above is "affect", not "effect".
>>
>> >The entire Disney repertoire is nothing but propaganda.
>> >It does nothing but reinforce the ruling class political,
>> >scientific ...etc.
>>
>> Oy, yet another fruitcake, and silly me, I asked him to step up onto
>> the soapbox. Live and loin....
>
>Can you try and NOT drink or consume drugs while posting ...if you
>want
>people to take you seriously?

um, ok....

Hun Society

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Sep 24, 2010, 10:28:36 AM9/24/10
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On Sep 24, 10:53 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:57:03 -0700 (PDT), Hun Society
>
> <hunsoci...@y7mail.com> wrote:
>
> <snuo>
>
> >> >> You tried to make a point by suggesting that a jewish ceo means a
> >> >> "jewish company" - if that's not true, why did you find the fact that
> >> >> Disney has a jewish ceo important enough to post? Face facts - you're
> >> >> full of shit.
>
> >> >LoL - you are building a strawman. I merely pointed that he was
> >> >replaced
> >> >by another.
>
> >> Ah, so you just found it, um, interesting, eh? You had no point
> >> whatever in posting that Disney replaced Eisner with another Jew. I
> >> see....
>
> >Just pointed that YOU had no point.
>
> Listen, you moron, let me try to steer you. Here's what I wrote:
>
> > LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
> > disney 5 years ago.
>
>  My SOLE point was that the article's very first sentence was wrong.
> YOU, on the other hand, becuase you are an antisemitic moron, somehow
> twisted that in your, ahem, "mind" to mean that I cited that as proof
> that disney was not a "jewish company", and you jumped in to the
> conversation, triumphantly showing that I was wrong, that disney IS in
> fact a "jewish company" by virtue of the fact that they hired a jewish
> ceo to replace eisner. Next time, try to think before you push "send"
> (I realize that that's asking the impossible).

Whatever! If you had a point to make that the company isn't Jewish,
then
telling that some Jew's contract expired ...or left ...whatever, isn't
exactly the
best way to go about it.

Let me help you out a little since you are struggling with basic
concepts in
Corporate Governance

...and to show you that I am not such a spiteful "burger flipper"!

You could have said: "Disney is a public company." ...which doesn't
prove
that the major shareholders aren't Jewish but at least shows that the
company
isn't entirely - Jewish.


> >> > A bit odd don't you think?
>
> >> Only for a moron -  non-morons know that Jews tend to be pretty good
> >> businessmen.
>
> >A CEO is not a proprietor, moron. If he was a "good businessman" -
> >he'd be working
> >for himself, fool!
>
> LOL! Hunny hereby pronounces that all ceo's are lousy businessmen
> because if they were any good, they'd be working for themselves. So
> says our resident burger flipper.

I think you are a bit confused here - a CFO is a lot closer to the
business
end of a Corporation than a CEO. There is no way to know if a person
is good at business just because he is a CEO. A CEO is mostly the guy
that reports to the Board and signs contracts (after somebody else has
formatted
and ran financial simulations on it). A CEO is more like glorified
Rep. - not a businessman in the traditional sense of the word.

...as for

...are Jews good at business? - are the Mormons any good? ...what
about Scientologists?

drahcir

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Sep 25, 2010, 8:53:04 AM9/25/10
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"whatever" doesn't cut it, moron. You can't say "whateve" means you
admit you're a moron.

> If you had a point to make that the company isn't Jewish,

Obviously, you have a reading comprehension problem, as is normal for
a moron. The entire point of the paragraph above is that THAT WAS NOT
MY POINT. My ponit, as would be apparent to any normal person, was
that the very first sentence of the article was factually incorrect.
Sheesh, it's amazing you can flip a burger.

>then
>telling that some Jew's contract expired ...or left ...whatever, isn't
>exactly the
>best way to go about it.
>
>Let me help you out a little since you are struggling with basic
>concepts in
>Corporate Governance

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!! This from the genius who PLAINLY STATED that any
CEO must be a bad businessman because if it were otherwise, he'd be
working for himself!!!

>
>...and to show you that I am not such a spiteful "burger flipper"!
>
>You could have said: "Disney is a public company." ...which doesn't
>prove
>that the major shareholders aren't Jewish but at least shows that the
>company
>isn't entirely - Jewish.

LOL! Our burger flipper has been frantically perusing wikipedia.


>
>
>> >> > A bit odd don't you think?
>>
>> >> Only for a moron -  non-morons know that Jews tend to be pretty good
>> >> businessmen.
>>
>> >A CEO is not a proprietor, moron. If he was a "good businessman" -
>> >he'd be working
>> >for himself, fool!
>>
>> LOL! Hunny hereby pronounces that all ceo's are lousy businessmen
>> because if they were any good, they'd be working for themselves. So
>> says our resident burger flipper.
>
>I think you are a bit confused here - a CFO is a lot closer to the
>business
>end of a Corporation than a CEO.
> There is no way to know if a person
>is good at business just because he is a CEO. A CEO is mostly the guy
>that reports to the Board and signs contracts (after somebody else has
>formatted
>and ran financial simulations on it). A CEO is more like glorified
>Rep. - not a businessman in the traditional sense of the word.

Ah, sot that's why they pay CEO's so badly, with all those pesky tens
of millions of dollars, is that it, moron? Sheesh, this is funny!

>...as for
>
>...are Jews good at business? - are the Mormons any good? ...what
>about Scientologists?
>

Every sentence you type proves you more stupid. Get back to your
griddle, loser.

drahcir

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Sep 25, 2010, 11:03:57 AM9/25/10
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "icono...@yahoo.com"
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>
>> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
>> disney 5 years ago.  
>
>So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him? CEOs come and
>go.

So what is that the very first sentence of the article if factually
incorrect. that's so what, you moron.

drahcir

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Sep 25, 2010, 11:14:25 AM9/25/10
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On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "icono...@yahoo.com"
<coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:

H, I didn't bother to peruse your steaming HHWBabble below your
insipid "so what", but decided to revisit. I simply don't understand
what drives you to spend hours composing something the purpose of
which can only be to announce to the world that you are an incredible
fool.

Hun Society

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Sep 25, 2010, 3:07:46 PM9/25/10
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No I don't have a reading comprehension problem - I comprehend very
well
that you are an incredibly stupid and arrogant!

> >then
> >telling that some Jew's contract expired ...or left ...whatever, isn't
> >exactly the
> >best way to go about it.
>
> >Let me help you out a little since you are struggling with basic
> >concepts in
> >Corporate Governance
>
> AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!! This from the genius who PLAINLY STATED that any
> CEO must be a bad businessman because if it were otherwise, he'd be
> working for himself!!!

Can you point to the exact location where I allegedly said "must be a
bad businessman"? - I guess you can't!

> >...and to show you that I am not such a spiteful "burger flipper"!
>
> >You could have said: "Disney is a public company." ...which doesn't
> >prove
> >that the major shareholders aren't Jewish but at least shows that the
> >company
> >isn't entirely - Jewish.
>
> LOL! Our burger flipper has been frantically perusing wikipedia.
>

For this??? - You got to be kidding me!
I did Corporate Governance and Corporations Law as part
of my Accounting course.

>
> >> >> > A bit odd don't you think?
>
> >> >> Only for a moron -  non-morons know that Jews tend to be pretty good
> >> >> businessmen.
>
> >> >A CEO is not a proprietor, moron. If he was a "good businessman" -
> >> >he'd be working
> >> >for himself, fool!
>
> >> LOL! Hunny hereby pronounces that all ceo's are lousy businessmen
> >> because if they were any good, they'd be working for themselves. So
> >> says our resident burger flipper.
>
> >I think you are a bit confused here - a CFO is a lot closer to the
> >business
> >end of a Corporation than a CEO.
> > There is no way to know if a person
> >is good at business just because he is a CEO. A CEO is mostly the guy
> >that reports to the Board and signs contracts (after somebody else has
> >formatted
> >and ran financial simulations on it). A CEO is more like glorified
> >Rep. - not a businessman in the traditional sense of the word.
>
> Ah, sot that's why they pay CEO's so badly, with all those pesky tens
> of millions of dollars,  is that it, moron? Sheesh, this is funny!

They don't pay "badly". A Multinational generating Billions in profit
can
afford to pay tens of millions. Also you have to keep in mind that an
Executive Director has to be able to maintain the high profile
lifestyle
and be able to mix with influential people - without having to worry
about trivial expenses. It has bugger-all to do with being a good
businessman.


> >...as for
>
> >...are Jews good at business? - are the Mormons any good? ...what
> >about Scientologists?
>
> Every sentence you type proves you more stupid. Get back to your
> griddle, loser.

OK, can you prove that a man's religion plays an important role in his
business ability? ...and via what mechanism?

> ...
>
> read more »

drahcir

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Sep 25, 2010, 3:57:30 PM9/25/10
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Um, guess again, moron:

"A CEO is not a proprietor, moron. If he was a "good businessman" -
he'd be working for himself, fool! "

http://groups.google.com/group/soc.culture.israel/msg/6820dbb9d24fb0f8

Since a CEO does not normally "work for himself", it derives from your
statement that he cannot be a "good businessman", according to you.

Feeling a bit stupid, hunny? Well, that's a step in the right
direction - you can't fix what you don't acknowledge.

>
> > >...and to show you that I am not such a spiteful "burger flipper"!
>
> > >You could have said: "Disney is a public company." ...which doesn't
> > >prove
> > >that the major shareholders aren't Jewish but at least shows that the
> > >company
> > >isn't entirely - Jewish.
>
> > LOL! Our burger flipper has been frantically perusing wikipedia.
>
> For this??? - You got to be kidding me!
> I did Corporate Governance and Corporations Law as part
> of my Accounting course.
>

AAAAAAHAHAHAHA! You wasted your money at college only to flip
burgers!!!


>
> > >> >> > A bit odd don't you think?
>
> > >> >> Only for a moron -  non-morons know that Jews tend to be pretty good
> > >> >> businessmen.
>
> > >> >A CEO is not a proprietor, moron. If he was a "good businessman" -
> > >> >he'd be working
> > >> >for himself, fool!
>
> > >> LOL! Hunny hereby pronounces that all ceo's are lousy businessmen
> > >> because if they were any good, they'd be working for themselves. So
> > >> says our resident burger flipper.
>
> > >I think you are a bit confused here - a CFO is a lot closer to the
> > >business
> > >end of a Corporation than a CEO.
> > > There is no way to know if a person
> > >is good at business just because he is a CEO. A CEO is mostly the guy
> > >that reports to the Board and signs contracts (after somebody else has
> > >formatted
> > >and ran financial simulations on it). A CEO is more like glorified
> > >Rep. - not a businessman in the traditional sense of the word.
>
> > Ah, sot that's why they pay CEO's so badly, with all those pesky tens
> > of millions of dollars,  is that it, moron? Sheesh, this is funny!
>
> They don't pay "badly". A Multinational generating Billions in profit
> can
> afford to pay tens of millions.

So let's review, hunny. According to hunny, a ceo is "mostly the guy
that reports to the board and signs contracts" after someone else has
done the work. Of course, a board is very eager to pay someone tens of
millions to do only that. Hey, I can report to the board and sign
contracts - I'm a great reporter and can sign my name as fast as
anyone - I'll locate the chairman and ask him to consider me for CEO.
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!

It's too bad you're so fucking stupid, you can't perceive how stupid
you sound.

Also you have to keep in mind that an
> Executive Director has to be able to maintain the high profile
> lifestyle
> and be able to mix with influential people - without having to worry
> about trivial expenses. It has bugger-all to do with being a good
> businessman.

It seems that hunny has forgotten that above he is denying that he
said that a ceo must be a bad businessman. How does this moron make it
through his day?


>
> > >...as for
>
> > >...are Jews good at business? - are the Mormons any good? ...what
> > >about Scientologists?
>
> > Every sentence you type proves you more stupid. Get back to your
> > griddle, loser.
>
> OK, can you prove that a man's religion plays an important role in his
> business ability? ...and via what mechanism?

I personally don't believe it's his religion, hunny, although it's
open to question. It has been incontrovertibly demonstrated that Jews,
especially Ashkenazim, have higher average IQ's than other groups. In
my view, that accounts for their greater success than other groups in
intellectual endeavors, of which business can be considered one. But
you are correct, I can't prove that the religion has anything to do
with it. BTW, if you want to try to deny that Jews have far greater
representation per capita in the upper echelons of business, you will
only further confirm what a moron you are.

> ...
>
> read more »

Hun Society

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Sep 25, 2010, 5:36:48 PM9/25/10
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It doesn't derive that he will be a "bad businessman" - have you
considered
average for an option? At the end of the day - if he was - he will
have a business
to prove it and not work as a high-ranking bureaucrat for some
company!

Comprende?

> Feeling a bit stupid, hunny? Well, that's a step in the right
> direction - you can't fix what you don't acknowledge.

Not really - just amazed at your stupidity

> > > >...and to show you that I am not such a spiteful "burger flipper"!
>
> > > >You could have said: "Disney is a public company." ...which doesn't
> > > >prove
> > > >that the major shareholders aren't Jewish but at least shows that the
> > > >company
> > > >isn't entirely - Jewish.
>
> > > LOL! Our burger flipper has been frantically perusing wikipedia.
>
> > For this??? - You got to be kidding me!
> > I did Corporate Governance and Corporations Law as part
> > of my Accounting course.
>
> AAAAAAHAHAHAHA! You wasted your money at college only to flip
> burgers!!!

You can relax now - I don't flip burgers for a living and yes I have
done
a few physical jobs in the past. Unlike people like you who are
probably
living it off on your inheritance and never seen a day's work!

You will need Connections to get a job like that ...as well as some
form
of tertiary education and maybe some work experience at a corporate
level.

> It's too bad you're so fucking stupid, you can't perceive how stupid
> you sound.

The only content coming from you is barking and insults. I am yet to
hear
anything smart!

> Also you have to keep in mind that an
>
> > Executive Director has to be able to maintain the high profile
> > lifestyle
> > and be able to mix with influential people - without having to worry
> > about trivial expenses. It has bugger-all to do with being a good
> > businessman.
>
> It seems that hunny has forgotten that above he is denying that he
> said that a ceo must be a bad businessman. How does this moron make it
> through his day?

A Public Co. CEO is a high-ranking bureaucrat - NOT a businessman.

Get this through your - thick, thick skull!

> > > >...as for
>
> > > >...are Jews good at business? - are the Mormons any good? ...what
> > > >about Scientologists?
>
> > > Every sentence you type proves you more stupid. Get back to your
> > > griddle, loser.
>
> > OK, can you prove that a man's religion plays an important role in his
> > business ability? ...and via what mechanism?
>
> I personally don't believe it's his religion, hunny, although it's
> open to question. It has been incontrovertibly demonstrated that Jews,
> especially Ashkenazim, have higher average IQ's than other groups.

They do?

> In
> my view, that accounts for their greater success than other groups in
> intellectual endeavors, of which business can be considered one. But
> you are correct, I can't prove that the religion has anything to do
> with it. BTW, if you want to try to deny that Jews have far greater
> representation per capita in the upper echelons of business, you will
> only further confirm what a moron you are.

I have already told you why it is considered advantageous for a large
Corporation to have Jewish Directors. Looks like the moron is - you!

> ...
>
> read more »

drahcir

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Sheesh - you're not only a moron, you're a coward as well - can't face
up to your idiocy. I'd guess it's true in your life as well as your
posting. We're done here.

dsharavi

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On Sep 23, 7:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"

>
>
>
> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media
> >MARCH 16, 2009
> >tags: ABC, America, Buena Vista Television, Caravan Pictures, CBS,
> >deceptions, disinformation, Eisner, FM stations, Fox Tv, HBO,
> >Hollywood, Jew, Jewish, Jewish Media Control, Jewish Newspapers, Lies,
> >Media, Miramax Films, NBC, New York Times, Sony Corporation, Time
> >Warner, Touchstone Television, United States, USA, Wall Street
> >Journal, Walt Disney, Walt Disney Television, Washington Post, Zionist
> >by pakalert
> >120 Votes
>
> >The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the
> >price of collective stupidity.
> >“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that
> >we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White
> >House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president
> >can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable.
> >What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control
> >the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.
> >In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”
> >Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache

Bullshit.

>
> >Facts of Jewish Media Control
>
> >Electronic News & Entertainment Media
>
> >The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose
> >chairman and CEO, Michael Eisner,
>
> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
> disney 5 years ago.  Thanks to HHW, sci's most prolific fuckup, for
> this! Of course, this is besides the point that having a jewish ceo
> does not make a company "jewish". I just love watching HHW sink into
> the gutter - it's a beautiful thing.

H HAS shown himself pretty desperate of late.

> >  is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed

The Disney Company's largest stockholder, also a member of its
executive board, is Steve Jobs, whose biological parents are a Syrian
Muslim polysci prof and a German-American speech therapist, who isn't
Jewish. His sister is the novelist Mona Simpson. She's not Jewish
either.

The rest of this antisemitic spew is simply funny, What, we control
ONLY 96% of the media in North America? Why, I thought we controlled
MOST of the media in the entire world, as well as our own solar
system, and a lot of other solar systems, too. Along with their
governments, naturally.

Deborah

Israel Argaman Tekhelet ישראל ארגמן תכלת

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> Deborah- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Deb you are funny LOL.

drahcir

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It's such a pleasure to see the mask finally come off, all pretense
put aside, and the drooling, simian, knuckledragging antisemite
reveal itself in all its splendor. I knew the end had come for him
when he desperately joined the Cannibal Chorus.

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
news:lp3s96p5sejp0kj3b...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "icono...@yahoo.com"
> <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>>
>>> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
>>> disney 5 years ago.
>>
>>So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him? CEOs come and
>>go.
>
> So what is that the very first sentence of the article if factually
> incorrect. that's so what, you moron.

The facts are as stated when the article was written.

You are engaging in the Hasbara Handbook method of identifying a minor point
of difference and using this to try to destroy the entire post.

Read the entire article.

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
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Do you never tire of making a fool of yourself?

Do you not feel upset that you have no friends?


NefeshBarYochai

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On Sep 26, 7:00 pm, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "drahcir" <s...@sgscc.com> wrote in message

>
> news:bkrr961vp8bot8721...@4ax.com...
>
> Do you never tire of making a fool of yourself?
>
> Do you not feel upset that you have no friends?

Harold you really should stop beating your meat QUEER

drahcir

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:45:47 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>
>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>news:lp3s96p5sejp0kj3b...@4ax.com...
>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "icono...@yahoo.com"
>> <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>>>
>>>> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
>>>> disney 5 years ago.
>>>
>>>So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him? CEOs come and
>>>go.
>>
>> So what is that the very first sentence of the article if factually
>> incorrect. that's so what, you moron.
>
>The facts are as stated when the article was written.

Prove it. If you're right, the article is out of date. But you're ben,
so you're in all likelihood wrong.


>
>You are engaging in the Hasbara Handbook method of identifying a minor point
>of difference and using this to try to destroy the entire post.

It's not a "point of difference". You obviously don't know what that
term means.

>Read the entire article.

No need. The article is a joke, as are you.

>
>

drahcir

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 11:00:12 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>

In typical ben fashion, he fancies himself the knight in shining armor
come to rescue the damsel in distress, in this case, my hunny. Trouble
is, the idiot snipped away everything that he was meaning to attack.
Gee, I wonder why....

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
news:7210a69okvdjogcg0...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:45:47 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>>news:lp3s96p5sejp0kj3b...@4ax.com...
>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "icono...@yahoo.com"
>>> <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>>>>
>>>>> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
>>>>> disney 5 years ago.
>>>>
>>>>So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him? CEOs come and
>>>>go.
>>>
>>> So what is that the very first sentence of the article if factually
>>> incorrect. that's so what, you moron.
>>
>>The facts are as stated when the article was written.
>
> Prove it. If you're right, the article is out of date.

Your holocaust is a bit out of date, but you don't let that concern you.

>But you're ben,

How wrong you are. As usual

> so you're in all likelihood wrong.

Pfffffffft.

Harold Black

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"NefeshBarYochai" <lbit...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Are you able to tell me what the benefits, or otherwise, of queer meat are?

NefeshBarYochai

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On Sep 26, 11:03 pm, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "NefeshBarYochai" <lbitf...@gmail.com> wrote in message

Go to your room and don't come out until you can show some respect to
your betters. DO IT NOW!

drahcir

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On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:58:45 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>
>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>news:7210a69okvdjogcg0...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:45:47 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>>>news:lp3s96p5sejp0kj3b...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "icono...@yahoo.com"
>>>> <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
>>>>>> disney 5 years ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him? CEOs come and
>>>>>go.
>>>>
>>>> So what is that the very first sentence of the article if factually
>>>> incorrect. that's so what, you moron.
>>>
>>>The facts are as stated when the article was written.
>>
>> Prove it. If you're right, the article is out of date.
>
>Your holocaust is a bit out of date, but you don't let that concern you.

Thanks, ben. Exactly as I expected, you can't back up your shit.


>
>>But you're ben,
>
>How wrong you are. As usual

Nope.


>
>> so you're in all likelihood wrong.
>
>Pfffffffft.

Proven.

dsharavi

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I always chuckle when that one comes up. The Jew haters who re-re-re-
re-rfe-post it as often as Jeff Whatshisface always leave out
Heinrich's previous post, about the IDF eating dead Palesetinians,
which puts it into context. Of course, the pinheads who post the lamb/
kid receipe -- with their faked righteous indignation, natch -- are
too stupid to understand that the "cannibal" references are to: 1. The
IDF (by Heinrich); and 2. to the Pallies (me). I assume it's because
the moron Jeff Whatshisname posted it over a hundred times, then years
later, that dumb loon Mirelle followed suit and posted it a thousand
times.

BTW, itl's great with chicken, too. Try it sometime.

Deborah

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
news:o921a6deqtmqbefhk...@4ax.com...

> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:58:45 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>>news:7210a69okvdjogcg0...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 10:45:47 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:lp3s96p5sejp0kj3b...@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "icono...@yahoo.com"
>>>>> <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
>>>>>>> disney 5 years ago.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him? CEOs come and
>>>>>>go.
>>>>>
>>>>> So what is that the very first sentence of the article if factually
>>>>> incorrect. that's so what, you moron.
>>>>
>>>>The facts are as stated when the article was written.
>>>
>>> Prove it. If you're right, the article is out of date.
>>
>>Your holocaust is a bit out of date, but you don't let that concern you.
>
> Thanks, ben. Exactly as I expected, you can't back up your shit.

For God's sake get it right. I am NOT Ben. I am somewhat flattered you think
so.

Get a life and stop your consistent whining.


drahcir

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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 12:17:34 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

Yeah, you are.

I am somewhat flattered you think
>so.

Whatever.


>
>Get a life and stop your consistent whining.
>

Typical ben statement. The group notices that you apparently agree
with me that you can't back up your shit. Typical cramer.

drahcir

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I believe if you check that context, you'll find that it was Richard
Cranium.

Harold Black

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"NefeshBarYochai" <lbit...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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You're a scream, Yochai.

If you're a Jew, you're one of the few on here worth speaking to. You're
totally bent but honest.

As far as the "your betters" is concerned, no Jew can be genetically
superior to me. I'm a white man.

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
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Afraid not. He posts via a very different ISP, from a different town, using
different software.


>
> I am somewhat flattered you think
>>so.
>
> Whatever.

Thankyou.


>>
>>Get a life and stop your consistent whining.
>>
> Typical ben statement.

It pleases me you think so. Thank you again

>The group notices that you apparently agree
> with me that you can't back up your shit.

Where did I agree with you on anything like this? As far as the "group
notices..." thing, I, and Iconoclast are, from what I can see, the only two
people who even bother to respond to very, very little of your insane
garbage.

>Typical cramer.

You seem to be, like all the other Jews and Jew supporters in this group,
totally consumed by hatred, delusion and the ability to lie through your
snaggle teeth.


.

drahcir

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On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:14:59 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

Afraid so.

> He posts via a very different ISP, from a different town, using
>different software.

Either you're ben, or for some stupid reason you assumed the alias he
was using. Either way, you're a moron.

>>
>> I am somewhat flattered you think
>>>so.
>>
>> Whatever.
>
>Thankyou.
>>>
>>>Get a life and stop your consistent whining.
>>>
>> Typical ben statement.
>
>It pleases me you think so. Thank you again
>
>>The group notices that you apparently agree
>> with me that you can't back up your shit.
>
>Where did I agree with you on anything like this?

A non-denial is tacit agreement.

As far as the "group
>notices..." thing, I, and Iconoclast are, from what I can see, the only two
>people who even bother to respond to very, very little of your insane
>garbage.

LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree. End of story.


>
>>Typical cramer.
>
>You seem to be, like all the other Jews and Jew supporters in this group,
>totally consumed by hatred, delusion and the ability to lie through your
>snaggle teeth.
>

Whatever, ben. You're typicallyi ineffective and unimportant. Your
contribution to this group is zero, except for entertainment value.
>.
>
>

dsharavi

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I checked. You're right. Silly me.

Deborah

NefeshBarYochai

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On Sep 28, 8:47 pm, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "NefeshBarYochai" <lbitf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:cbae987d-1d79-4d5e...@p24g2000pra.googlegroups.com...
> On Sep 26, 11:03 pm, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > "NefeshBarYochai" <lbitf...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:0526e46c-32bc-4770...@u4g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> > On Sep 26, 7:00 pm, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com> wrote:
>
> > > "drahcir" <s...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:bkrr961vp8bot8721...@4ax.com...
>
> > > Do you never tire of making a fool of yourself?
>
> > > Do you not feel upset that you have no friends?
> > >Harold you really should stop beating your meat QUEER
>
> > Are you able to tell me what the benefits, or otherwise, of queer meat
> > are?
> >Go to your room and don't come out until you can show some respect to
> >your betters.  DO IT NOW!
>
> You're a scream, Yochai.
>
> If you're a Jew, you're one of the few on here worth speaking to. You're
> totally bent but honest.
>
> As far as the "your betters" is concerned, no Jew can be genetically
> superior to me. I'm a white man.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Any time you feel like stepping into a bar and measuring Peters for
all to see just get back at me.

The Peeler

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But you have no dick, Yochi! What are you going to show?

The Peeler

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On Thu, 30 Sep 2010 01:15:21 +0800, Delirious The Retard, the resident
psychopath of sci and scj, IMPERSONATING his master, The Peeler, wrote:

>>> >your betters.  DO IT NOW!
>>>
>>> You're a scream, Yochai.
>>>
>>> If you're a Jew, you're one of the few on here worth speaking to. You're
>>> totally bent but honest.
>>>
>>> As far as the "your betters" is concerned, no Jew can be genetically
>>> superior to me. I'm a white man.- Hide quoted text -
>>>
>>> - Show quoted text -
>>
>>Any time you feel like stepping into a bar and measuring Peters for
>>all to see just get back at me.
>
> But you have no dick, Yochi! What are you going to show?

Usenet's "famous" housebound impotent sexual cripple is PROJECTING again!
Check the dickless wonder, The Retard, here:
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/5800/neuteredrev.jpg

--
The Retard about himself:
"And you just wish someone, anyone, anything would cornhole you!"

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
news:r5a6a6te9qgl54fq8...@4ax.com...

How can any single person be so wrong on so many counts in such a short
sentence?

It's very obvious who the moron is.

If you weren't such a hate-filled loon, I could find it within myself to
pity you.

>
>>>
>>> I am somewhat flattered you think
>>>>so.
>>>
>>> Whatever.
>>
>>Thankyou.
>>>>
>>>>Get a life and stop your consistent whining.
>>>>
>>> Typical ben statement.
>>
>>It pleases me you think so. Thank you again
>>
>>>The group notices that you apparently agree
>>> with me that you can't back up your shit.
>>
>>Where did I agree with you on anything like this?
>
> A non-denial is tacit agreement.

Hahahahahahahaha. Is that Jew logic?

>
> As far as the "group
>>notices..." thing, I, and Iconoclast are, from what I can see, the only
>>two
>>people who even bother to respond to very, very little of your insane
>>garbage.
>
> LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree.

Not at all. Your application of Jew logic is laughable.

>>
>>>Typical cramer.
>>
>>You seem to be, like all the other Jews and Jew supporters in this group,
>>totally consumed by hatred, delusion and the ability to lie through your
>>snaggle teeth.
>>
> Whatever, ben. You're typicallyi ineffective and unimportant. Your
> contribution to this group is zero, except for entertainment value

You wear your desperation on your sleeve.


>>.
>>
>>


drahcir

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On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:08:30 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

The first true thing you've said since you've been here.


>
>If you weren't such a hate-filled loon, I could find it within myself to
>pity you.

Like I care.

>>
>>>>
>>>> I am somewhat flattered you think
>>>>>so.
>>>>
>>>> Whatever.
>>>
>>>Thankyou.
>>>>>
>>>>>Get a life and stop your consistent whining.
>>>>>
>>>> Typical ben statement.
>>>
>>>It pleases me you think so. Thank you again
>>>
>>>>The group notices that you apparently agree
>>>> with me that you can't back up your shit.
>>>
>>>Where did I agree with you on anything like this?
>>
>> A non-denial is tacit agreement.
>
>Hahahahahahahaha. Is that Jew logic?
>
>>
>> As far as the "group
>>>notices..." thing, I, and Iconoclast are, from what I can see, the only
>>>two
>>>people who even bother to respond to very, very little of your insane
>>>garbage.
>>
>> LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree.
>
>Not at all. Your application of Jew logic is laughable.

No refutation means agreement.

>
>>>
>>>>Typical cramer.
>>>
>>>You seem to be, like all the other Jews and Jew supporters in this group,
>>>totally consumed by hatred, delusion and the ability to lie through your
>>>snaggle teeth.
>>>
>> Whatever, ben. You're typicallyi ineffective and unimportant. Your
>> contribution to this group is zero, except for entertainment value
>
>You wear your desperation on your sleeve.

Thanks for agreeing that you can't back up your shit. At least we
don't have to argue that point.
>
>
>>>.
>>>
>>>
>

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
news:fubaa69edsct5bake...@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:08:30 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:

>>>
>>> LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree.
>>
>>Not at all. Your application of Jew logic is laughable.
>
> No refutation means agreement.


Absolute garbage. Total rot.

drahcir

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On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:05:06 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>
>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>news:fubaa69edsct5bake...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:08:30 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
>> wrote:
>
>>>>
>>>> LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree.
>>>
>>>Not at all. Your application of Jew logic is laughable.
>>
>> No refutation means agreement.
>
>
>Absolute garbage. Total rot.

Nope. No refutation means agreement. Refute or you agree. No third
option. Here's the reason - if you don't agree, you must have a
reason. That reason is how you refute. If you don't refute, you have
no reason to disagree, therefore you agree. Get it now? You could end
this all by simply refuting. But, of course, you can't. So, you agree.
Thanks for agreeing. You're a very agreeable person, I'm sure most
would agree.
>
>

Harold Black

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"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
news:45daa656lbp7rrctr...@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:05:06 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>>news:fubaa69edsct5bake...@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:08:30 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>>
>>>>> LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree.
>>>>
>>>>Not at all. Your application of Jew logic is laughable.
>>>
>>> No refutation means agreement.
>>
>>
>>Absolute garbage. Total rot.
>
> Nope. No refutation means agreement. Refute or you agree.

You're not very good at this, are you?

I would seriously doubt there would be a single belief of yours I agree
with.

Take that for what it is and shut up, you whiny little person.

drahcir

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On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:15:13 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>
>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>news:45daa656lbp7rrctr...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:05:06 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"drahcir" <sg...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>>>news:fubaa69edsct5bake...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:08:30 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree.
>>>>>
>>>>>Not at all. Your application of Jew logic is laughable.
>>>>
>>>> No refutation means agreement.
>>>
>>>
>>>Absolute garbage. Total rot.
>>
>> Nope. No refutation means agreement. Refute or you agree.
>
>You're not very good at this, are you?
>
>I would seriously doubt there would be a single belief of yours I agree
>with.
>
>Take that for what it is and shut up, you whiny little person.

Typical ben reply. Snippy snippy goes poo wittoo bennie! I will
replace:

Tell it like it is.

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On Sep 23, 4:17 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>

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> Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media
> MARCH 16, 2009
> tags: ABC, America, Buena Vista Television, Caravan Pictures, CBS,
> deceptions, disinformation, Eisner, FM stations, Fox Tv, HBO,
> Hollywood, Jew, Jewish, Jewish Media Control, Jewish Newspapers, Lies,
> Media, Miramax Films, NBC, New York Times, Sony Corporation, Time
> Warner, Touchstone Television, United States, USA, Wall Street
> Journal, Walt Disney, Walt Disney Television, Washington Post, Zionist
> by pakalert
> 120 Votes
>
> The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the
> price of collective stupidity.
“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that
we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White
House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president
can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable.
What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control
the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.
In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”
- Israeli
spokeswoman
Tzipora Menache

> Facts of Jewish Media Control

"We are supported by YOU our listeners."
-National
Public Radio
I'm a listener and I've never contributed a dime.

> Electronic News & Entertainment Media
>
> The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose

> chairman and CEO, Michael Eisner, is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed
> by a man described by one media analyst as a “control freak”, includes
> several television production companies (Walt Disney Television,
> Touchstone Television, Buena Vista Television), its own cable network
> with 14 million subscribers, and two video production companies. As
> for feature films, the Walt Disney Picture Group, headed by Joe Roth
> (also a Jew), includes Touchstone Pictures, Hollywood Pictures, and
> Caravan Pictures. Disney also owns Miramax Films, run by the Weinstein
> brothers. When the Disney Company was run by the Gentile Disney family
> prior to its takeover by Eisner in 1984, it epitomized wholesome,
> family entertainment. While it still holds the rights to Snow White,
> under Eisner, the company has expanded into the production of graphic
> sex and violence. In addition, it has 225 affiliated stations in the
> United States and is part owner of several European TV companies.
> ABC’s cable subsidiary, ESPN, is headed by president and CEO Steven
> Bornstein, a Jew. This corporation also has a controlling share of
> Lifetime Television and the Arts & Entertainment Network cable
> companies. ABC Radio Network owns eleven AM and ten FM stations, again
> in major cities such as New York, Washington, Los Angeles, and has
> over 3,400 affiliates. Although primarily a telecommunications
> company, Capital Cities/ABC earned over $1 billion in publishing in
> 1994. It owns seven daily newspapers, Fairchild Publications, Chilton
> Publications, and the Diversified Publishing Group. Time Warner, Inc,
> is the second of the international media leviathans. The chairman of
> the board and CEO, Gerald Levin, is a Jew. Time Warner’s subsidiary
> HBO is the country’s largest pay-TV cable network. Warner Music is by
> far the world’s largest record company, with 50 labels, the biggest of
> which is Warner Brothers Records, headed by Danny Goldberg. Stuart
> Hersch is president of Warnervision, Warner Music’s video production
> unit. Goldberg and Hersch are Jews. Warner Music was an early promoter
> of “gangsta rap.” Through its involvement with Interscope Records, it
> helped popularize a genre whose graphic lyrics explicitly urge Blacks
> to commit acts of violence against Whites. In addition to cable and
> music, Time Warner is heavily involved in the production of feature
> films (Warner Brothers Studio) and publishing. Time Warner’s
> publishing division (editor-in-chief Norman Pearlstine, a Jew) is the
> largest magazine publisher in the country (Time, Sports Illustrated,
> People, Fortune). When Ted Turner, a Gentile, made a bid to buy CBS in
> 1985, there was panic in media boardrooms across the nation. Turner
> made a fortune in advertising and then had built a successful cable-TV
> news network, CNN.
>
> Although Turner employed a number of Jews in key executive positions
> in CNN and had never taken public positions contrary to Jewish
> interests, he is a man with a large ego and a strong personality and
> was regarded by Chairman William Paley (real name Palinsky, a Jew) and
> the other Jews at CBS as uncontrollable: a loose cannon who might at
> some time in the future turn against them. Furthermore, Jewish newsman
> Daniel Schorr, who had worked for Turner, publicly charged that his
> former boss held a personal dislike for Jews. To block Turner’s bid,
> CBS executives invited billionaire Jewish theater, hotel, insurance,
> and cigarette magnate Laurence Tisch to launch a “friendly” takeover
> of the company, and from 1986 till 1995 Tisch was the chairman and CEO
> of CBS, removing any threat of non-Jewish influence there. Subsequent
> efforts by Turner to acquire a major network have been obstructed by
> Levin’s Time Warner, which owns nearly 20 percent of CBS stock and has
> veto power over major deals. Viacom, Inc, headed by Sumner Redstone
> (born Murray Rothstein), a Jew, is the third largest megamedia
> corporation in the country, with revenues of over $10 billion a year.
> Viacom, which produces and distributes TV programs for the three
> largest networks, owns 12 television stations and 12 radio stations.
> It produces feature films through Paramount Pictures, headed by Jewess
> Sherry Lansing. Its publishing division includes Prentice Hall, Simon
> & Schuster, and Pocket Books. It distributes videos through over 4,000
> Blockbuster stores. Viacom’s chief claim to fame, however, is as the
> world’s largest provider of cable programming, through its Showtime,
> MTV, Nickelodeon, and other networks. Since 1989, MTV and Nickelodeon
> have acquired larger and larger shares of the younger television
> audience. With the top three, and by far the largest, media companies
> in the hand of Jews, it is difficult to believe that such an
> overwhelming degree of control came about without a deliberate,
> concerted effort on their part. What about the other big media
> companies? Number four on the list is Rupert Murdoch’s News
> Corporation, which owns Fox Television and 20th Century Fox Films.
> Murdoch is a Gentile, but Peter Chermin, who heads Murdoch’s film
> studio and also oversees his TV production, is a Jew. Number five is
> the Japanese Sony Corporation, whose U.S. subsidiary, Sony Corporation
> of America, is run by Michael Schulhof, a Jew. Alan Levine, another
> Jew, heads the Sony Pictures division. Most of the television and
> movie production companies that are not owned by the largest
> corporations are also controlled by Jews. For example, New World
> Entertainment, proclaimed by one media analyst as “the premiere
> independent TV program producer in the United States,” is owned by
> Ronald Perelman, a Jew. The best known of the smaller media companies,
> Dreamworks SKG, is a strictly kosher affair. Dream Works was formed in
> 1994 amid great media hype by recording industry mogul David Geffen,
> former Disney Pictures chairman Jeffrey Katzenberg, and film director
> Steven Spielberg, all three of whom are Jews. The company produces
> movies, animated films, television programs, and recorded music. Two
> other large production companies, MCA and Universal Pictures, are both
> owned by Seagram Company, Ltd. The president and CEO of Seagram, the
> liquor giant, is Edgar Bronfman Jr., who is also president of the
> World Jewish Congress. It is well known that Jews have controlled the
> production and distribution of films since the inception of the movie
> industry in the early decades of the 20th century. This is still the
> case today. Films produced by just the five largest motion picture
> companies mentioned above-Disney, Warner Brothers, Sony, Paramount
> (Viacom), and Universal (Seagram)-accounted for 74 per cent of the
> total box-office receipts for the first eight months of 1995. The big
> three in television network broadcasting used to be ABC, CBS, and NBC.
> With the consolidation of the media empires, these three are no longer
> independent entities. While they were independent, however, each was
> controlled by a Jew since its inception: ABC by Leonard Goldenson, CBS
> first by William Paley and then by Lawrence Tisch, and NBC first by
> David Sarnoff and then by his son Robert. Over periods of several
> decades, these networks were staffed from top to bottom with Jews, and
> the essential Jewishness of network television did not change when the
> networks were absorbed by other corporations. The Jewish presence in
> television news remains particularly strong. As noted, ABC is part of
> Eisner’s Disney Company, and the executive producers of ABC’s news
> programs are all Jews: Victor Neufeld (20-20), Bob Reichbloom (Good
> Morning America), and Rick Kaplan (World News Tonight). CBS was
> recently purchased by Westinghouse Electric Corporation. Nevertheless,
> the man appointed by Lawrence Tisch, Eric Ober, remains president of
> CBS News, and Ober is a Jew. At NBC, now owned by General Electric,
> NBC News president Andrew Lack is a Jew, as are executive producers
> Jeff Zucker (Today), Jeff Gralnick (NBC Nightly News), and Neal
> Shapiro (Dateline). The Print Media After television news, daily
> newspapers are the most influential information medium in America.
> Sixty million of them are sold (and presumably read) each day. These
> millions are divided among some 1,500 different publications. One
> might conclude that the sheer number of different newspapers across
> America would provide a safeguard against Jewish control and
> distortion. However, this is not the case. There is less independence,
> less competition, and much less representation of our interests than a
> casual observer would think. The days when most cities and even towns
> had several independently owned newspapers published by local people
> with close ties to the community are gone. Today, most “local”
> newspapers are owned by a rather small number of large companies
> controlled by ...
>
> read more »

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On Sep 30, 8:38 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:15:13 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >"drahcir" <s...@sgscc.com> wrote in message

> >news:45daa656lbp7rrctr...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:05:06 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>"drahcir" <s...@sgscc.com> wrote in message

> >>>news:fubaa69edsct5bake...@4ax.com...
> >>>> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:08:30 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>>> LOL! You didn't respond, ben. That means you agree.
>
> >>>>>Not at all. Your application of Jew logic is laughable.
>
> >>>> No refutation means agreement.
>
> >>>Absolute garbage. Total rot.
>
> >> Nope. No refutation means agreement. Refute or you agree.
>
> >You're not very good at this, are you?
>
> >I would seriously doubt there would be a single belief of yours I agree
> >with.
>
> >Take that for what it is and shut up, you whiny little person.
>
> Typical ben reply. Snippy snippy goes poo wittoo bennie! I will
> replace:
>
>  No refutation means agreement. Refute or you agree. No third
> option. Here's the reason - if you don't agree, you must have a
> reason. That reason is how you refute. If you don't refute, you have
> no reason to disagree,
Maybe he has a reason not to refute because he does disagree, and yet,
does not feel compelled to refute. Perhaps he like most sane people
doesn't suffer, Drahcir, from your obsessive compulsive behavior on
usenet.

therefore you agree. Get it now? You could end
> this all by simply refuting. But, of course, you can't. So, you agree.
> Thanks for agreeing. You're a very agreeable person, I'm sure most
> would agree.
I notice, Drahcir, you have been doing an ad hominem on
Iconoclast for so long now, that like the holocaust survivor going to
Israel to protest against Israel 's abusive occupation I feel duty
bound, like she does, to say are you suffering from incoherence due to
age or temporary senility as in temporaryly insane.

>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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On Sep 26, 7:40 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Sep 2010 21:54:24 -0700 (PDT), dsharavi
>
>
>
>
>
> <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >On Sep 23, 7:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> >> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"

>
> >> <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media
> >> >MARCH 16, 2009
> >> >tags: ABC, America, Buena Vista Television, Caravan Pictures, CBS,
> >> >deceptions, disinformation, Eisner, FM stations, Fox Tv, HBO,
> >> >Hollywood, Jew, Jewish, Jewish Media Control, Jewish Newspapers, Lies,
> >> >Media, Miramax Films, NBC, New York Times, Sony Corporation, Time
> >> >Warner, Touchstone Television, United States, USA, Wall Street
> >> >Journal, Walt Disney, Walt Disney Television, Washington Post, Zionist
> >> >by pakalert
> >> >120 Votes
>
> >> >The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the
> >> >price of collective stupidity.
> >> >“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that
> >> >we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White
> >> >House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president
> >> >can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable.
> >> >What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control
> >> >the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.
> >> >In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”
> >> >Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache
>
> >Bullshit.
>
> >> >Facts of Jewish Media Control
>
> >> >Electronic News & Entertainment Media
>
> >> >The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose
> >> >chairman and CEO, Michael Eisner,
>
> >> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
> >> disney 5 years ago.  Thanks to HHW, sci's most prolific fuckup, for
> >> this! Of course, this is besides the point that having a jewish ceo
> >> does not make a company "jewish". I just love watching HHW sink into
> >> the gutter - it's a beautiful thing.
>
> >H HAS shown himself pretty desperate of late.
>
> It's such a pleasure to see the mask finally come off, all pretense
> put aside,  and the drooling, simian, knuckledragging antisemite
> reveal itself in all its splendor. I knew the end had come for him
> when he desperately joined the Cannibal Chorus.
>
>
>
>
>
> >> >  is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed
>
> >The Disney Company's largest stockholder, also a member of its
> >executive board, is Steve Jobs, whose biological parents are a Syrian
> >Muslim polysci prof and a German-American speech therapist, who isn't
> >Jewish. His sister is the novelist Mona Simpson. She's not Jewish
> >either.
>
> >The rest of this antisemitic spew is simply funny, What, we control
> >ONLY 96% of the media in North America? Why, I thought we controlled
> >MOST of the media in the entire world, as well as our own solar
> >system, and a lot of other solar systems, too. Along with their
> >governments, naturally.
>
> >Deborah- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

That would be funny except the
cowardly hypocrisy includes screaming antisemite at the drop of a
yamulka. While you have no compassion for Drahcir who is becoming
unbalanced.

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-the in-crowd

>
>
>
>
> >> >  is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed
>
> >The Disney Company's largest stockholder, also a member of its
> >executive board, is Steve Jobs, whose biological parents are a Syrian
> >Muslim polysci prof and a German-American speech therapist, who isn't
> >Jewish. His sister is the novelist Mona Simpson. She's not Jewish
> >either.
>
> >The rest of this antisemitic spew is simply funny,
HILLARIOUS!
What, we control is our desire never to make peace with Palestine
while we can exploit the USA. Yes, we can.

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The above spew is incoherent except to the truly insane who also find
its incoherence to the mass readership at google groups very
satisfying. A case study for Sigmund Freud.

>
>
>
>
> >> >  is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed
>
> >The Disney Company's largest stockholder, also a member of its
> >executive board, is Steve Jobs, whose biological parents are a Syrian
> >Muslim polysci prof and a German-American speech therapist, who isn't
> >Jewish. His sister is the novelist Mona Simpson. She's not Jewish
> >either.
>

> >The rest of this antisemitic spew is simply funny, What, we control

drahcir

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how've ya been, psycho? Giving life on the outside a try again?

Tell it like it is.

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On Sep 30, 9:50 pm, "Tell it like it is."

It is shocking
to read Adolf Hitler's autobiography. I thought only jews were smart..

Tell it like it is.

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> how've ya been, psycho? Giving life on the outside a try again?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Written any letters to Israel? I mean to the inmates.

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> how've ya been, psycho? Giving life on the outside a try again?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Drahcir,
If you hold your gentile in one hand, and your
balls in the other hand, what do you have in your hands? A jew by his
balls.

DoD

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On Sep 30, 9:58 pm, "Tell it like it is."
> to read Adolf Hitler's autobiography. I thought only jews were smart..-

Daniel albert deswhosits making the rounds with a dozen posts to
nobody.

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On Sep 30, 10:03 pm, "Tell it like it is."
> balls.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

I wrote that because once while visiting my
Christian mother in Hollywoood , California, I got a ride on Santa
Monica Blvd.by a jew a-hole who tuned out to be queerer'n than a three
dollar bill. A kid had told me that the yamulka wearers will drive you
right to your door. He was right. I'm glad I didn't break the queer's
jaw. The kid did say many of Hollywood's jews were queers. They love
writing about pedophile priests on usenet. The decent ones I met all
attended a yeshiva.

Tell it like it is.

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> nobody.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Catholic, DoD, or just brainwashed?

DoD

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On Sep 30, 10:22 pm, "Tell it like it is."

Are you asking me a question? If so, what is that question?

Tell it like it is.

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On Sep 28, 9:07 pm, dsharavi <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I always chuckle when that one comes up.
The Jew haters
who re-re-re-
"The jew haters". Let me clarify your ethnocentricism, Mrs Shavers.
Every decent American respects a religious jew. No American respects
the killers of The holy Land: jew or muslim. That's what it means to
be an American.
Respect and tolerance for people outside your own ethnocentric mind
track.
Religion has its place in American culture. Zion-ism and Commun-ism
are not religion. 50,000 dead in Vietnam say so, and don't you ever
forget it.

> re-rfe-post it as often as Jeff Whatshisface always leave out
> Heinrich's previous post, about the IDF eating dead Palesetinians,
> which puts it into context. Of  course, the pinheads who post the lamb/

> kid receipe -- with their faked righteous indignation, natch -- are
> too stupid to understand that the "cannibal" references are to: 1. The
> IDF (by Heinrich); and 2. to the Pallies (me).  I assume it's because
> the moron Jeff Whatshisname posted it over a hundred times, then years
> later, that dumb loon Mirelle followed suit and posted it a thousand
> times.
>
> BTW, itl's great with chicken, too. Try it sometime.
>
> Deborah
>
>
>
> > >> >  is a Jew. The Disney Empire, headed
>
> > >The Disney Company's largest stockholder, also a member of its
> > >executive board, is Steve Jobs, whose biological parents are a Syrian
> > >Muslim polysci prof and a German-American speech therapist, who isn't
> > >Jewish. His sister is the novelist Mona Simpson. She's not Jewish
> > >either.
>
> > >The rest of this antisemitic spew is simply funny, What, we control
> > >ONLY 96% of the media in North America? Why, I thought we controlled
> > >MOST of the media in the entire world, as well as our own solar
> > >system, and a lot of other solar systems, too. Along with their
> > >governments, naturally.- Hide quoted text -

Tell it like it is.

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On Sep 30, 10:38 pm, "Tell it like it is."

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> Are you asking me a question? If so, what is that question?- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

You wrote you were Catholic. You are more muslim-hating than
most jews. Still putting out frontpage magazine's muslim-killing spew
for every one to read? Written of course by jews.

DoD

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On Sep 30, 10:43 pm, "Tell it like it is."

I am Catholic.

> You are more muslim-hating than
> most jews.

I don't hate Muslims. I don't even hate you. I find you
ridiculous and sometimes humorous.

>Still putting out frontpage magazine's muslim-killing spew

> for every one to read? Written of course by jews.-

It is funny that you say this. It shows how depraved you are
when a family of Chabadniks in India are murdered in cold blood and it
is
somehow the Jews are hateful.

That is just one example dickbreath.

Zev

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On Oct 1, 4:32 am, "Tell it like it is."

<DanielAlbertDesfos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sep 30, 8:38 pm, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:15:13 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> > wrote:
> > >"drahcir" <s...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
> > >news:45daa656lbp7rrctr...@4ax.com...
> > >> On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 11:05:06 +1000, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>"drahcir" <s...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
> > >>>news:fubaa69edsct5bake...@4ax.com...

> > No refutation means agreement. Refute or you agree. No third


> > option. Here's the reason - if you don't agree, you must have a
> > reason. That reason is how you refute. If you don't refute, you have
> > no reason to disagree,
>
> Maybe he has a reason not to refute because he does disagree, and yet,
> does not feel compelled to refute. Perhaps he like most sane people
> doesn't suffer, Drahcir, from your obsessive compulsive behavior on
> usenet.

Nobody's compelled to do anything in the Usenet,
but here he has an opportunity to
present his argument, prove his case.
He doesn't do it.
The simplest explanation is that he can't, and he knows it.
If that's the case, his behavior here could more easily
be described as "obsessive compulsive" than drahcir's.

> therefore you agree. Get it now? You could end
> this all by simply refuting. But, of course, you can't. So, you agree.
> > Thanks for agreeing. You're a very agreeable person, I'm sure most
> > would agree.
>
> I notice, Drahcir, you have been doing an ad hominem on
> Iconoclast for so long now, that like the holocaust survivor going to
> Israel to protest against Israel 's abusive occupation I feel duty
> bound, like she does, to say are you suffering from incoherence due to
> age or temporary senility as in temporaryly insane.

My own approach to Hunter's posts is different.
I avoid ad hominems like the plague.
Usually the result is that after a few iterations, he runs away,
only to return in the following weeks with the same claims
he previously failed to defend successfully.
I've wondered for a long time if ad hominems would save me time,
at no cost in efficiency.

BTW, Harold Black is even worse, I'm surprised you haven't noticed.

Joe Bruno

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On Sep 23, 2:17 am, "iconocl...@yahoo.com" <coaster132...@yahoo.com>

wrote:
> Six Jewish Companies Own 96% of the World’s Media
> MARCH 16, 2009
> tags: ABC, America, Buena Vista Television, Caravan Pictures, CBS,
> deceptions, disinformation, Eisner, FM stations, Fox Tv, HBO,
> Hollywood, Jew, Jewish, Jewish Media Control, Jewish Newspapers, Lies,
> Media, Miramax Films, NBC, New York Times, Sony Corporation, Time
> Warner, Touchstone Television, United States, USA, Wall Street
> Journal, Walt Disney, Walt Disney Television, Washington Post, Zionist
> by pakalert
> 120 Votes
>
> The power of lies, deceptions and disinformation as Americans pay the
> price of collective stupidity.
> “You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that
> we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White
> House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president
> can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable.
> What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control
> the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.
> In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…”
> Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache
>
> Facts of Jewish Media Control
>
> Electronic News & Entertainment Media
>
> The largest media conglomerate today is Walt Disney Company, whose
> controlled by executives who live and work hundreds or ever thousands
> of miles away. The fact is that only about 25 per cent of the
> country’s 1,500 papers are independently owned; the rest belong to
> multi-newspaper chains. Only a handful are large enough to maintain
> independent reporting staffs outside their own communities; the rest
> depend on these few for all of their national and international news.
> The Newhouse empire of Jewish brothers Samuel and Donald Newhouse
> provides an example of more than the lack of real competition among
> America’s daily newspapers: it also illustrates the insatiable
> appetite Jews have shown for all the organs of opinion control on
> which they could fasten their grip. The Newhouses own 26 daily
> newspapers, including several large and important ones, such as the
> Cleveland Plain Dealer, the Newark Star-Ledger, and the New Orleans
> Times-Picayune; the nation’s largest trade book publishing
> conglomerate, Random House, with all its subsidiaries; Newhouse
> Broadcasting, consisting of 12 television broadcasting stations and 87
> cable-TV systems, including some of the country’s largest cable
> networks; the Sunday supplement Parade, with a circulation of more
> than 22 million copies per week; some two dozen major magazines,
> including the New Yorker, Vogue, Madmoiselle, Glamour, Vanity Fair,
> Bride’s, Gentlemen’s Quarterly, Self, House & Garden, and all the
> other magazines of the wholly owned Conde Nast group. This Jewish
> media empire was founded by the late Samuel Newhouse, an immigrant
> from Russia. The gobbling up of so many newspapers by the Newhouse
> family was in large degree made possible by the fact that newspapers
> are not supported by their subscribers, but by their advertisers. It
> is advertising revenue–not the small change collected from a
> newspaper’s readers–that largely pays the editor’s salary and yields
> the owner’s profit. Whenever the large advertisers in a city choose to
> favor one newspaper over another with their business, the favored
> newspaper will flourish while its competitor dies. Since the beginning
> of the 20th century, when Jewish mercantile power in America became a
> dominant economic force, there has been a steady rise in the number of
> American newspapers in Jewish hands, accompanied by a steady decline
> in the number of competing Gentile newspapers–primarily as a result of
> selective advertising policies by Jewish merchants. Furthermore, even
> those newspapers still under Gentile ownership and management are so
> thoroughly dependent upon Jewish advertising revenue that their
> editorial and news reporting policies are largely constrained by
> Jewish likes and dislikes. It holds true in the newspaper business as
> elsewhere that he who pays the piper calls the tune.
>
> See: Mainstream Pakistani media and their links with NeoCon Zionists
>
> Three Jewish Newspapers
>
> The suppression of competition and the establishment of local
> monopolies on the dissemination of news and opinion have characterized
> the rise of Jewish control over America’s newspapers. The resulting
> ability of the Jews to use the press as an unopposed instrument of
> Jewish policy could hardly be better illustrated than by the examples
> of the nation’s three most prestigious and influential newspapers: the
> New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, and the Washington Post.
> These three, dominating America’s financial and political capitals,
> are the newspapers which set the trends and the guidelines for nearly
> all the others. They are the ones which decide what is news and what
> isn’t, at the national and international levels. They originate the
> news; the others merely copy it, and all three newspapers are in
> Jewish hands. The New York Times was founded in 1851 by two Gentiles,
> Henry Raymond and George Jones. After their deaths, it was purchased
> in 1896 from Jones’s estate by a wealthy Jewish publisher, Adolph
> Ochs. His great-grandson, Arthur Ochs Sulzberger, Jr., is the paper’s
> current publisher and CEO. The executive editor is Max Frankel, and
> the managing editor is Joseph Lelyveld. Both of the latter are also
> Jews. The Sulzberger family also owns, through the New York Times Co.,
> 33 other newspapers, including the Boston Globe; twelve magazines,
> including McCall’s and Family Circle with circulations of more than 5
> million each; seven radio and TV broadcasting stations; a cable-TV
> system; and three book publishing companies. The New York Times News
> Service transmits news stories, features, and photographs from the New
> York Times by wire to 506 other newspapers, news agencies, and
> magazines. Of similar national importance is the Washington Post,
> which, by establishing its “leaks” throughout government agencies in
> Washington, has an inside track on news involving the Federal
> government. The Washington Post, like the New York Times, had a non-
> Jewish origin. It was established in 1877 by Stilson Hutchins,
> purchased from him in 1905 by John McLean, and later inherited by
> Edward McLean. In June 1933, however, at the height of the Great
> Depression, the newspaper was forced into bankruptcy. It was purchased
> at a bankruptcy auction by Eugene Meyer, a Jewish financier. The
> Washington Post is now run by Katherine Meyer Graham, Eugene Meyer’s
> daughter. She is the principal stockholder and the board chairman of
> the Washington Post Co. In 1979, she appointed her son Donald
> publisher of the paper. He now also holds the posts of president and
> CEO of the Washington Post Co. The Washington Post Co. has a number of
> other media holdings in newspapers, television, and magazines, most
> notably the nation’s number-two weekly newsmagazine, Newsweek. The
> Wall Street Journal, which sells 1.8 million copies each weekday, is
> the nation’s largest-circulation daily newspaper. It is owned by Dow
> Jones & Company, Inc., a New York corporation which also publishes 24
> other daily newspapers and the weekly financial tabloid Barron’s,
> among other things. The chairman and CEO of Dow Jones is Peter Kann,
> who is a Jew. Kann also holds the posts of chairman and publisher of
> the Wall Street Journal. Most of New York’s other major newspapers are
> in no better hands than the New York Times and the Wall Street
> Journal. The New York Daily News is owned by Jewish real-estate
> developer Mortimer B. Zuckerman. The Village Voice is the personal
> property of Leonard Stern, the billionaire Jewish owner of the Hartz
> Mountain pet supply firm.
>
> Other Mass Media
>
> The story is pretty much the same for other media as it is for
> television, radio, and newspapers. Consider, for example,
> newsmagazines. There are only three of any note published in the
> United States: Time, Newsweek, and U.S. News and World Report. Time,
> with a weekly circulation of 4.1 million, is published by a susidiary
> of Time Warner Communications. The CEO of Time Warner Communications,
> as mentioned above, is Gerald Levin, a Jew. Newsweek, as mentioned
> above, is published by the Washington Post Company, under the Jewess
> Katherine Meyer Graham. Its weekly circulation is 3.2 million. U.S.
> News & World Report, with a weekly circulation of 2.3 million, is
> owned and published by Mortimer Zuckerman, a Jew. Zuckerman also owns
> the Atlantic Monthly and New York’s tabloid newspaper, the Daily News,
> which is the sixth-largest paper in the country. Among the giant book-
> publishing conglomerates, the situation is also Jewish. Three of the
> six largest book publishers in the U.S., according to Publisher’s
> Weekly, are owned or controlled by Jews. The three are first-place
> Random House (with its many subsidiaries, including Crown Publishing
> Group), third-place Simon & Schuster, and sixth-place Time Warner
> Trade Group (including Warner Books and Little, Brown). Another
> publisher of special significance is Western Publishing. Although it
> ranks only 13th in size among all U.S. publishers, it ranks first
> among publishers of children’s books, with more than 50 percent of the
> market. Its chairman and CEO is Richard Snyder, a Jew, who just
> replaced Richard Bernstein, also a Jew.
>
> The Effect of Jewish Control of the Media
>
> These are the facts of Jewish media control in America. Anyone willing
> to spend several hours in a large library can verify their accuracy. I
> hope that these facts are disturbing to you, to say the least. Should
> any minority be allowed to wield such awesome power? Certainly, not
> and allowing a people with beliefs such as expressed in the Talmud, to
> determine what we get to read or watch in effect gives this small
> minority the power to mold our minds to suit their own Talmudic
> interests, interests which as we have demonstrated are diametrically
> opposed to the interests of our people. By permitting the Jews to
> control our news and entertainment media, we are doing more than
> merely giving them a decisive influence on our political system and
> virtual control of our government; we also are giving them control of
> the minds and souls of our children, whose attitudes and ideas are
> shaped more by Jewish television and Jewish films than by their
> parents, their schools, or any other influence.
>
> Additional Research:
>
> Why Propaganda Trumps Truth
>
> Zionist, Jewish Hollywood’s Brainwashing Of America
>
> “We, The Jewish People, Control America”
>
> Video: The Hidden Reality – A Must Watch
>
> Another War For Israel In The Works
>
> Must Read: The Dajjal’s War on Humankind
>
> The Zionist Elephant In The Room
>
> The International Jew – by Henry Ford
>
> The Tribe That Controls America
>
> How Jewish is Hollywood?
>
> The Spiritual War
>
> No One Talks About Israel’s Spying On America!
>
> Video: US Policy Influenced By Zionist Media And Neocon Agenda
>
> Israeli Spokesman Says We Control Stupid Americans
>
> The Mossad’s Infiltration Of America
>
> Video: How American News Media Works In Favor Of Israel
>
> Video: Illuminati Exposed!
>
> Video: The Arrivals Series (Compiled)
>
> Who are the Israelites & Jews and Who is their real Target
>
> The United States of Israel
>
> The ‘Jewish Question’ Now A Global Issue
>
> Israel Is Nobody’s Friend
>
> Lights, Camera… Covert Action: The Deep Politics of Hollywood
>
> Reprint: Some Things You Need to Know before the World Ends
>
> A Message To The World On The Obama Inauguration

http://www.freepress.net/resources/ownership

Zev

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On Oct 1, 5:43 am, "Tell it like it is."

> most jews.....

What's this business about most Jews being muslim-hating?
You've taken polls, measured muslim-hatred, averaged it,
and compared it, group by group?

Tell it like it is.

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Oct 1, 2010, 10:34:02 AM10/1/10
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> That is just one example dickbreath.- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Dear dickbreath AKA DoD,
I was driving on the
interstate a few days ago, and watched two kids dropping stones onto
vehicles. I called the state police on a 911 and gave them the mile
number on the road marker and a description of what one of the little
dicks was wearing.
I'll tell you
something DoD AKA, a Christian or a Jew has a moral obligation to
abide by the Ten Commandments otherwise they are no more Jew or
Christian than a secular Zionist exploiting the US military.
What do you think of
the killing of a thousand men , women and children in Palestine by the
IDF during the very month in which we inaugurated the President of the
USA? Nothing, huh? Israel can do no wrong by your standarrds. Christ
should return. Soon.
I'm sure juvenile
delinquents dropping stones onto motor vehicles will TAKE OUT A
SUBSCRIPTION TO FRONTPAGE MAGAZINE. Department of defense? When they
grow up as twisted as you.
Do you regard all
Muslims as the enemy and all Zionists as our ally? Then you are
seeking a third world war.
As every honest American knows, Americans, as LBJ did over the attack
on the USS Liberty, we keep our mouth shut. Eventually, the free pass
to exploit and demonize other nations cultures and people is going to
come to an end. Good men do not want to repeat the twentieth century.
God regretted that he had created mankind upon the earth for all man's
thoughts were toward violence.
The author Kurt Vonnegutt
spoke about the Sermon on the Mount before dying a little while back.
As a U.S. Prisoner of War in N.A.Z.I. Germany he had to help bury the
dead in Germany. Women and children after the British "retaliated" for
the Blitz.
War is not a sports
game. The good and bad die on both sides. The only thing you're
concerned about, DoD, is your ass.

One atrocity does not
justify being repeating. That's warfare, and that's what guys like you
promote.

Tell it like it is.

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>
> - Show quoted text -

Zev,
I'm going to give you some good advice. There are things
more important to a man than obsessing over the cowardly opinions of
psychotics and ethnocentrics. Is that plain enough english? The Holy
Bible, written by Messianic Jews, says not every insult deserves a
response.

Message has been deleted

Zev

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Oct 1, 2010, 11:03:24 AM10/1/10
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On Oct 1, 4:47 pm, "Tell it like it is."
> response.-

Messianic Jews?
You're probably not talking about *my* Bible...

Zev

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On Oct 1, 4:48 pm, "Tell it like it is."
<DanielAlbertDesfos...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>                                    As have you.

But I don't go around making silly claims like this.

drahcir

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Oct 1, 2010, 11:22:09 AM10/1/10
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On Fri, 1 Oct 2010 08:03:24 -0700 (PDT), Zev <zev_...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

psst - he's certificable - you must have something better to do.

Tell it like it is.

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> You're probably not talking about *my* Bible...- Hide quoted text -

>
> - Show quoted text -

Your Bible better be the first half of every Christian
Bible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ij0OjMEJKes

Tell it like it is.

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> But I don't go around making silly claims like this.- Hide quoted text -
"silly" claims? Your opinion of The Holy Land?

> - Show quoted text -

http://www.justicenownetwork.blogspot.com/2009/02/ralph-naders-article-about-sixty-year.html

Zev

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Oct 2, 2010, 12:40:29 PM10/2/10
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On Oct 1, 8:48 pm, "Tell it like it is."

No.
This claim (made to DoD):


"You are more muslim-hating than most jews....."

> http://www.justicenownetwork.blogspot.com/2009/02/ralph-naders-articl...

Zev

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Oct 2, 2010, 12:49:39 PM10/2/10
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On Oct 1, 8:38 pm, "Tell it like it is."

If you think a Youtube clip from Ralph Nadir's election campaign
of two years ago is related in some way to the comments above,
you really are certifiable.

Aviroce

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Oct 4, 2010, 11:45:25 AM10/4/10
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"You are engaging in the Hasbara Handbook method of identifying a
minor point
of difference and using this to try to destroy the entire post. "
That is correct. Surely a useful strategy for single liners.

Here is a real story with a Jew for Judge on Landlord-Tenant Issues.
In his city, I only own two homes. The city is corrupt and so is the
system and I stopped buying in this city. Here is the story.

A tenant was in the arear for three months as I was a sucker to her
claims th money will come from here and from there. Eventually a
social agency sponsored by the recovery funds took her case and paid
the rent provided that I would receive the fourth month from her.
Well I arranged to allocate part of her deposit for the month and she
would give me some food using her food stamps (may be not hers
originally) for that month. I selected the foods and she bought them
and gave them to me. Month got paid, Agency paid the three months.
Now she wanted to pay over 75% of her rent by food stamps and
furthermore she broke a two-year old stove beyond repair and I had to
buy a used one as she had no money. Prior to breaking the stove, she
called me to say that the electric company turned off her electricity
and she attempted to have her sixteen year old son to get an
identification card as eighteen so that she could avoid paying her
large electric bill but she could not. "Would I please turn the
electricity on?" I had to think. A day later, now that the agency
approved payment and not paid, I wrote a comprhensive agreement that
electricity has nothing to do with the lease and anyone could turn it
off without any provisions. That proved to be my costly error. I did
not consult with an attorney and I thought an agreement would hold. I
turned the electricity off. Legal Aid called me to tell me I could
not do that. Shock. I called my attorney and she said that was
right. I immediately turned on after four days.

When she broke the stove I told her she should pay for it. She was
angry and I told her I was raising her rent or she should move
somewhere else. She cursed. I did not answer. I filed for
eviction. That is when the Jew Judge came in. Tenant began
destroying the home and take pictures for Code Enforcement in that
corrupt city. For instance, there was a leaky faucet outside. She
filled a five gallon plastic container with water and placed green
algea on a stone from somewhere else. Took pictures. She left the
grass high, her responsibility to cut it and Code Enforcement asked me
to cut it. She took off all electric fixtures of the ceilings and
sometime broke the ceilings. Code Enforcement a black man, she was
also black, wrote up over eight violations and gave me fifteen days to
fix them. He would write a violation in general terms to mean more
than it is: Fix the plumbing outside meanning to replace a washer on
the faucet outside. To a judge, plumbing is major league. A washer
is easily fixed.

She came to court with a young 43 year old attorney with a
counterclaim of nine thousand dollars. I refused even to look at her
or her attorney. They tried to convince the Jew Judge of their claim
and I did not even think how to approach this counterclaim immediately
posted when trial is taking place.. "When did Code Enforcement come?"
Asked the Jew. She answered, "On the Sixth." But on the sixth the
eviction was filed. Obviously Code Enforcement was retaliation.
However hard the Jew tried to get me wrong he could not on this. Here
is a tenant who lived in the premises for eight months and only on
eviction filing comes with claims. All until she broke out beyond her
attorney, "I was in the dark." She said. Jew asked,"What do you
mean?" She replied, "He turned the electricity off." Jew
answered,"That is a smoking gun." Before he gets carried away, I
ushered him to pick my contract. He read it without care. "You mean
if I sign a contract with you to kill me, would you kill me?" he
said. I answered, "That would be a crime here." Now, he ordered, "
One thousand dollars for turning the electricity off and one thousand
dollars in punitive damages." I forgot to tell you that when I signed
to turn the electricity on and contacted the electric company they
told me my tenant had "Unauthorized use of electricity." She was
stealing electicity for four months.

But I was able to get her and her attorney to a settlement where I
would end up paying five hundred dollars for her to move and I was
able to destroy her color copier she used for fraudulant cliams. She
moved out at her cost and lost more than one thousand dollars in
items.

The damned Jew was waiting just for something like she said to put
blame on me. I have to deal with this bastard as he is the only one
dealing with such issues.

On Sep 26, 5:45 pm, "Harold Black" <n...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> "drahcir" <s...@sgscc.com> wrote in message
>

> news:lp3s96p5sejp0kj3b...@4ax.com...
>
> > On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 12:22:01 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
> > <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:


>
> >>On Sep 23, 9:06 am, drahcir <s...@sgscc.com> wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 23 Sep 2010 02:17:39 -0700 (PDT), "iconocl...@yahoo.com"
>

> >>> LOL! Didn't take long for the unnamed author to fuck up. Eisner left
> >>> disney 5 years ago.
>

> >>So what? Did Disney change hands? And who replaced him?  CEOs come and
> >>go.
>
> > So what is that the very first sentence of the article if factually
> > incorrect. that's so what, you moron.
>
> The facts are as stated when the article was written.
>
> You are engaging in the Hasbara Handbook method of identifying a minor point
> of difference and using this to try to destroy the entire post.
>
> Read the entire article.

Harold Black

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Oct 4, 2010, 6:54:47 PM10/4/10
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They are a disgusting race. History is testament to that fact.

"Aviroce" <dudar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:64635bf8-bc8d-430b...@w19g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

TallHenry

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In article <_Wsqo.1037$hz6...@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpond.com>,
Harold Black <n...@bigpond.com> wrote:

> They are a disgusting race.

http://archives.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/auspac/07/31/australia.woomera/
"CANBERRA, Australia (CNN) -- A United Nations human rights envoy
has slammed conditions in Australia's Woomera detention camp, saying
the situation there in many cases was 'inhuman and degrading'".

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2001/oct2001/refu-o13.shtml
"Australian navy fires on refugee boat".

Australia's culpability in East Timor's genocide
------------------------------------------------
http://www.pcug.org.au/~wildwood/earlyviva.htm
"Australian governments all sought to influence the destiny of East
Timor. This destiny became one of the longest ongoing acts of genocide
since the European Holocaust of the Second World War. I am reminded of
the French Vichy Government of that war which supplied and organised
the freight train convoys that carried persecuted Jews to the Nazi
ovens. Canberra's warts-and-all allegiance with Jakarta; the almost $2
billion in bilateral aid; the million of dollars in military gifts,
defence training and defence co-operation; and the political lobbying
in the international arena for Jakarta's position, all helped to
create a similar cattlewagon, transporting the East Timorese to their
diabolical fate." Jim Aubrey, editor, 'Free East Timor: Australia's
culpability in East Timor's genocide'.

"The second consequence of British settlement was
appropriation of land and water resources. The combination
of disease, loss of land and direct violence reduced the
Aboriginal population by up to 80% between 1788 and 1900.
A wave of massacres and resistance followed the frontier
of British settlement. By the 1870s all the fertile areas
of Australia had been appropriated, and Indigenous communities
reduced to impoverished remnants living either on the fringes
of Australian communities or on lands considered unsuitable
for settlement".
(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indigenous_Australians)

The Endeavor

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2010 07:16:48 +0000 (UTC), TallHenry wrote:

> A United Nations human rights envoy
> has slammed conditions in Australia's Woomera detention camp, saying
> the situation there in many cases was 'inhuman and degrading'".

The UN is an 'inhuman and degrading' organisation

Aviroce

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UNITED NATIONS IS A TOOL TO PERPETUATE VICTORY IN WWII
By Aviroce

The United Nations is an instrument to perpetuate victors of WWII.
Since USA was the main big time victor, USA decides and enforces what
keeps it in power on a perpetual basis. Although that has been the
main objective of the United Nations, with the rising economic powers
of countries like China, India and independent states (rogue states by
USA terminology because they do not abide by USA power post) the
United Nations have to reconstitute itself to show these realities or
a threat of war would make itself as the final answer. Gradually
rising powers are chipping at the all-time might of USA. With USA
entanglements in the Middle East, unlike its war in Viet Nam, USA is
struggling to stay afloat. USA is sinking, sorry to say as it is my
country. Hopefully those who read what I complain of will help change
the direction of USA.
Aviroce

Zev

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On Oct 5, 6:11 pm, Aviroce <dudaras...@gmail.com> wrote:
> UNITED NATIONS IS A TOOL TO PERPETUATE VICTORY IN WWII
> By Aviroce
>
> The United Nations is an instrument to perpetuate victors of WWII.
> Since USA was the main big time victor, USA decides and enforces what
> keeps it in power on a perpetual basis.  Although that has been the
> main objective of the United Nations, with the rising economic powers
> of countries like China, India and independent states (rogue states by
> USA terminology because they do not abide by USA power post) the
> United Nations have to reconstitute itself to show these realities or
> a threat of war would make itself as the final answer.  Gradually
> rising powers are chipping at the all-time might of USA.   With USA
> entanglements in the Middle East, unlike its war in Viet Nam, USA is
> struggling to stay afloat.  USA is sinking, sorry to say as it is my
> country.  Hopefully those who read what I complain of will help change
> the direction of USA.

I agree with a lot of what you say here.
Entangling alliances (formal and informal)
have become too much for us to shoulder.
But I think the "USA is sinking",
because of what's happening within it.
We need a return to the old puritan frugality
and prudishness which made America great.

It happens again and again.
Licentiousness degrades, and a degraded people
lose their place on the stage of history.

Aviroce

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Oct 5, 2010, 5:24:44 PM10/5/10
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TRANSFER OF TECHNOLOGY DEGRADED USA TOO
By Aviroce

Not only the wars degraded USA, but also the "Transfer of technology
and production to other countries." Over five years ago I wrote one
post that Yahoo got interested in and wanted to publish it as a
special sample on this topic. May be you may be able to dig that out.

Transfer of technology also implies transfer of education for that
technology. This means less education for the Americans. Education
is degraded as no value is achieved from it. Simply stated, for
example, as a Mathematician I had a prestigious position when I
graduated from college. Five years later, the number of
Mathematicians increased tremendously that my position became more
shaky and challenged and competitive. So the number of Mathematicians
started to decrease and you would find Ph.D.'s in Mathematics
unemployed. So the number of students trying for the Ph.D. in
Mathematics decreased as employment became less certain. Of course
you could assume a high school teaching job but that is below the
value of the Ph.D. In other words, when technology transfers,
education suffers, employment suffers, income suffers, people suffer.
But in the mid 1970's USA government decided that USA economy should
be a management economy rather than production. Many arguments came
up that such an economy, service economy, will decrease incomes. It
surely did.

A book on socialism written by Folkieh (French name) called
"Socialism" emphasizes that the tools of production and production
should be in the same nation to develop. I read that many, many years
back when I was a young teen. He has been right all along. The
service economy breeds low income jobs for the majority. Obama is
trying hard to bring back the production economy through the green
energy. It is possible if we work very hard to invent a new way or
method to develop energy to have the patent and manufacturing in USA.
This can pull us up.

Otherwise, the transfer of wealth is cannibalistic. You got the
money, and the market is down, you buy and the market goes up and you
sell and make the millions. Before the TARP program I was paying 5
cents to 20 cents on the dollar in real estate. Now banks refuse the
sale for the highest bid along that line. My last property I will
close on on October 20 will cost me $62500 for the property that had a
loan in 2004 balance of 174000 and priced before the collapse at
$355000. So my pruchase is 40 cents on the dollar in terms of 2004
prices and 18 cents on the dollar prior to depression. There is a
minimum of $100000 profit margin within two years or less and much
more than that within five to seven years. Cannibalistic
opportunity. Just like an attorney who produces nothing and transfers
money from one pocket to his/hers. The same applies to brokers making
billions. What about the remaining American population? Low income.
Unemployment. Service. No production.

Aviroce

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