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"Jewish Villages Were Built In The Place of Arab Villages", Moshe Dayan

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torresD

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Jul 6, 2008, 12:26:16 PM7/6/08
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We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
the Technion (Israel Institute of
Technology), Haifa

(as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).

Dayan had no idea how much his statement
has awakened thousands of sleeping horses
who have dedicated themselves to proving him wrong:

"Jewish villages were built in
the place of Arab villages.

You do not even know the
names of these Arab villages,
and I do not blame you because
geography books no longer exist,
not only do the books not exist,
the Arab villages are not there either.

Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul;
Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta;
Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis;
and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of
Tal al-Shuman.

There is not one single place built
in this country that did not have
a former Arab population."

In series of interviews
conducted in 1976 with Moshe Dayan
(which was later published in Yediot
Ahronot after his death in 1981),

he confessed that his greatest mistake was that,
as a Minister of Defense in June 1967,
he did not stick to his original
opposition to storming the Golan Heights,
and he described how the confrontation
with the Syrian evolved to a war as
the following:

"Never mind that
[when asked that Syrians initiated
the war from the Golan Heights].

After all,
I know how at least 80 percent
of the clashes there started.

In my opinion, more than 80 percent,
but let's talk about 80 percent.

It went this way:

We would send a tractor to plough
someplace where it wasn't possible
to do anything,

in the demilitarized area,
and knew in advance that the
Syrians would start to shoot.

If they didn't shoot,
we would tell the tractor
to advance farther,

until in the end Syrians
would get annoyed and shoot.

And then we would use artillery and
later the air force also, and that's
how it was.

I did that,
and Laskov and Chara [Zvi Tsur,
Rabin's predecessor as chief of staff]
did that, Yitzhak did that,

but it seems to me that the person
who most enjoyed these games was
Dado [David Elzar,
OC Northern Command, 1964-69]."
(Iron Wall, p. 236-237)

Moshe Dayan once remarked
"describing Israel's relationship
with the United States":

Moshe Dayan once remarked
"describing Israel's relationship
with the United States":

"Our American friends
offer us money, arms, and advice.

We take the money,
we take the arms,
and we decline the advice."

(Iron Wall, p. 316)

On 30 July 1973 Moshe Dayan
said to the Time Magazine:

"There is no more Palestine. Finished . . ."
(Iron Wall, p. 316)

and in April 1973 from the
peaks of Massada he proclaimed
a vision:

"a new State of Israel with broad frontiers,
strong and solid, with the authority of the
Israel Government extending from the
Jordan [river] to the Suez Canal."
(Iron Wall, p. 316)


HHW

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Deborah! Don't ya just love Avi Shlaim too? Or did he just fall
victim, poor fellow, to Moshe Dayan's lies?

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> We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> the Technion (Israel Institute of
> Technology), Haifa
> (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

Or how much horseshit they'd leave.

Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
several years. You just can't learn, can you?

Deborah

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On Jul 7, 3:51 am, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
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http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200, “Heinrich”
<Hein...@mailgate.org> wrote:
>As usual, you left out the part about the IDF eating their palestinian
>prey after they kill them. It’s the reason the dead palestinian
>numbers are so low and the missing count is so high.
Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.

In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.

Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame. Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an
hour.

Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider. Bring to a boil,
add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2
hours.

Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the
vegetables to squeeze out the liquids.

Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)
________________________________
# 25 Franklin Brown Says:
June 12, 2008 at 12:51 am
What nonsense!

The posting clearly states that it’s a Palestinian recipe, NOT Israeli
or Zionist. And everyone knows that a kid is a baby goat.

Why you people have to twist every single thing into something
sinister is beyond me. You are just a bunch of opportunistic racists,
nothing more, nothing less.

# 54 David Goodman Says:
June 23, 2008 at 9:59 pm
All you have to do is look at the most horrendous sights of inter-
racial or inter-religious disputes, and see that more than 80% of the
cases involve muslim fundamentalists.
OK, there are extremists on every side, we have had our share of noisy
minorities, however, in most societies, the noisy extremists do not
call the cards. They are a minority, noisy, the role of the doom
profits - everyone has them - marginally. But, where the Palestinians
and Arab countries in general are concerned, this minority is the
leadership, and it is extreme in it’s views, in it’s goals and
aspirations. Terrorism, bombings, killings, anything bloody will do.
Imagine having a neighbor like this, and let me see YOU tell HIM what
he should and shouldn’t do.
P.S. The recipe calls for goat, a kid is a goat. As can bee seen by
the addition of: (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture).

# 55 That's Insane Says:
June 24, 2008 at 12:51 am
David Goodman, do you still claim “kid” means “goat”?:

Cider-Braised Jewish Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Jewish Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.

In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.

Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame. Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an
hour.

Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider. Bring to a boil,
add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2
hours.

Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the
vegetables to squeeze out the liquids.

Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Kikes.

# 56 Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
June 24, 2008 at 7:11 am
Clever. Franklin Brown & David Goodman’s arguments that kid means
goat, have been shown to be what they are — a lie.
Scratch a liar find a thief. Both men are ZIONISTS, both SUPPORT
THEFT, since that is what ISRAEL is based on — THEFT.

# 57 Mieko Fujimoto Says:
June 25, 2008 at 7:05 am
I am ashamed to say we eat very many foods in Japan that should be
forbidden. I do not. People in my country do. Eating people is
something we would never consider in Japan. I wonder if they eat
people in Israel? How else would this person write a recipe like this?
It is not funny, so what is the point? It must be a real cannibal
recipe. Maybe the person is mentally ill though. It is hard to tell.
Zionist are all mentally ill. They treat Palestinians like America
treated Japan. Two nuclear bombs. Genocide.

# 58 NO MORE WARS FOR ISRAEL Says:
June 26, 2008 at 2:15 am
Deborah Sharavi, do you enjoy being a cannibal?

# 59 Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
June 28, 2008 at 6:56 pm
When they wanna see
How evil people could be
They’ll just remember
Deborah Sharavi’s “recipe”

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

____________________________________________________

Mirelle

HHW

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On Jul 7, 5:51 am, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
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Some of what you'd like to call fake appears in his auto-biography.
The rest was published in Israeli newspapers and he did not correct it.

HHW

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> http://tinyurl.com/ddkek(8th post)

Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her. In addition to
expertise in the Torah and Talmud he has a psychoanalytic sideline and
cultivates a grave professional demeanor. Surely cannibalistic
symptoms are a serious matter. Even more serious that demonic
possession, etc. Can you imagine Deborah getting even close to the
kitchen at Passover?

torresD

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Deborah


There are Nazi Holocaust deniers,
people that despite overwhelming evidence
continue to deny the horror that was the Nazi Holocaust.
They are lying, they are liars.

http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story697.html
On April 8-9 1948 Ben-Gurion told
Mishmar Ha'emek representatives to
burn and destroy the neighboring
villages, he said:

"[They] said it was imperative to
expel the Arabs [in the area] and
to burn the villages.

For me, the matter was very difficult.

[But] they said that they were not sure
[the kibbutz could continue to exist] if
the villages remained intact and [if]
the Arab inhabitants were not expelled,
for they [i.e. the Palestinian Arabs villagers]
would [later] attack them
[i.e. Mishmar Ha'emek]." (Benny Morris, p. 116)

"They [Mishmar Ha'emek people] faced a cruel reality ...
[and] saw that there was [only] one way and that was
to expel the Arab villagers and burn the villages.

And they did this.
And they were the first to do this."
(Benny Morris, p. 116)

Ben-Gurion was told on February 7, 1948
that "Jews have no land in the Jerusalem corridor",
he arrogantly replied:

"The war will GIVE us the land.

The concept of 'ours' and 'not ours'
are ONLY CONCEPTS for peacetime, and
during war they lose all their meaning."

(Benny Morris, p. 170 & Expulsion Of The Palestinians, p. 180)

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> > On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > > Technology), Haifa
> > > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

> On Jul 7, 5:51 am, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
> > Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> > several years. You just can't learn, can you?
> > Deborah

On Jul 7, 9:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Some of what you'd like to call fake appears in his auto-biography.

Quote it -- if you can.

On Jul 7, 9:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The rest was published in Israeli newspapers and he did not correct it

Quote it - if you can.

Deborah

dsha...@hotmail.com

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On Jul 7, 10:04 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her. In addition to
> expertise in the Torah and Talmud he has a psychoanalytic sideline and
> cultivates a grave professional demeanor. Surely cannibalistic
> symptoms are a serious matter. Even more serious that demonic
> possession, etc. Can you imagine Deborah getting even close to the
> kitchen at Passover?

Far safer than letting you near the little underage Mexican kiddies
you love to diddle.

Deborah

DoD

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See how much of a trolling clown you are?

What's next with you? Speculating on how large Deborah's or Hillel's
noses are?

You are a pathetic old creep.

LOL..... What a joke.

fla...@verizon.net

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On 7-Jul-2008, DoD <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jul 7, 12:04�pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:


> >
> > Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her.

[snip rest of lies]


>
> See how much of a trolling clown you are?
>
> What's next with you? Speculating on how large Deborah's or Hillel's
> noses are?
>

No, it's more lies about me & specifically attacking my
*children*. - the final resort of the worst impotent loser.

Susan

DoD

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>
> On 7-Jul-2008, DoD <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Jul 7, 12:04 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>> >
>> > Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her.
> [snip rest of lies]
>>
>> See how much of a trolling clown you are?
>>
>> What's next with you? Speculating on how large Deborah's or Hillel's
>> noses are?
>>
> No, it's more lies about me & specifically attacking my
> *children*. - the final resort of the worst impotent loser.

That too.

The funny thing is he revels in his own shit.. It is really comical.


fla...@verizon.net

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> <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:Xavck.1093$bn3.725@trnddc07...
> >

> > On 7-Jul-2008, DoD <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Jul 7, 12:04 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> >
> >> > Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her.
> > [snip rest of lies]
> >>
> >> See how much of a trolling clown you are?
> >>
> >> What's next with you? Speculating on how large Deborah's or Hillel's
> >> noses are?
> >>
> > No, it's more lies about me & specifically attacking my
> > *children*. - the final resort of the worst impotent loser.
>

> That too.
>
> The funny thing is he revels in his own shit.. It is really comical.

Sometimes. Other times, they are so pathetic
I really can't make myself laugh at it.
What a waste of propolasm they are...

Susan

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HUH?
>
> Susan

B. H. Cramer

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On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> the Technion (Israel Institute of
> Technology), Haifa
> (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

>Or how much horseshit they'd leave.

>Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times,

Not a fake quote. Not a fake source. And not disproved.

Screeching and lying does not disprove, slime.

B. H. Cramer

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What a disgusting piece of shit you are, slime.

B. H. Cramer

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What the fuck is "propolasm" you stupid, dyslexic, thick Irish cunt?


B. H. Cramer

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Exactly.

But she's not dyslexic. Oh no! Not her.


B. H. Cramer

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> On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > Technology), Haifa
> > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

> <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0221cec9-5619-4c84...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...


> Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
> Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> several years. You just can't learn, can you?
> Deborah

On Jul 7, 10:56 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0221cec9-5619-4c84...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...


> There are Nazi Holocaust deniers,
> people that despite overwhelming evidence
> continue to deny the horror that was the Nazi Holocaust.

>Pallies chief among them.

> They are lying, they are liars.

>Pallies sure are.

> On April 8-9 1948 Ben-Gurion told
> Mishmar Ha'emek representatives to
> burn and destroy the neighboring
> villages,

>Bullshit.


You asked for quotes, slime. You were given quotes, slime.

You've been proved to be wrong and a liar, AGAIN - STILL, so apologise you
filthy piece of slime.


last_per...@yahoo.com

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HHW, beginning to get it yet? Your mistake (that you keep repeating)
is attempting to engage in intelligent, honest debate with these scum.

B. H. Cramer

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Shoveari is the slime beneath scum.

4PeaceMirelle

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On Jul 7, 10:04 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Surely cannibalistic
> symptoms are a serious matter. Even more serious that demonic
> possession, etc.

Perhaps, cannibalistic symptoms originate from demonic possession!


Mirelle

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So, you are condoning cannibalism, slime.
Pathetic attempt to slander HWH, slime.


> Deborah

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)

Dr. Lippschitz

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Does that mean like stoopid?
>
>


HHW

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> <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:0221cec9-5619-4c84...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > Technology), Haifa
> > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses
>
> Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
>
> Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> several years. You just can't learn, can you?
>
> Deborah
>
> There are Nazi Holocaust deniers,
> people that despite overwhelming evidence
> continue to deny the horror that was the Nazi Holocaust.
> They are lying, they are liars.
>
> http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story69...

Arabs cross to collect the grain that they left in the abandoned
villages and we set mines for them and they go back without an arm or
a leg.
Moshe Dayan

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> news:0221cec9-5619-4c84...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > Technology), Haifa
> > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses
>
> Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
>
> Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> several years. You just can't learn, can you?
>
> Deborah
>
> There are Nazi Holocaust deniers,
> people that despite overwhelming evidence
> continue to deny the horror that was the Nazi Holocaust.
> They are lying, they are liars.
>
> http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story69...

"Don't you just love Benny Morris." (Deborah)


"Israel cannot afford to stand against the entire world and be
denounced as the aggressor."
Moshe Dayan

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"Arabs cross to collect the grain that they left in the abandoned

HHW

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If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to
your enemies.
Moshe Dayan

HHW

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Moshe Dayan


Moshe Dayan
Moshe Dayan (20 May 1915 - 16 October 1981), was an Israeli military
leader and politician.
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1.1 Righteous Victims (1999)
1.2 The Iron Wall (1999)
2 Unsourced
3 Misattributions
4 Quotations about Dayan
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There is no more Palestine. Finished . . .
TIME Magazine (30 July 1973)
In two cases I did not fulfill my role as defense minister, in that I
did not stop things that I was sure should have been stopped.
On Israeli settlements on the Golan Heights and in Hebron, in a 1976
interview with Rami Tal, as quoted in Associated Press reports (11 May
1997)
Along the Syria border there were no farms and no refugee camps —
there was only the Syrian army... The kibbutzim saw the good
agricultural land ... and they dreamed about it... They didn't even
try to hide their greed for the land... We would send a tractor to
plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the
demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start
to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance
further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And
then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's
how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a
threat to us.
On the taking of the Golan Heights in 1967, indicating many of the
firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and
that many who pressed the government to take the Golan Heights did so
less for security than for farmland; in a 1976 interview with Rami
Tal, as quoted in The New York Times and Associated Press reports (11
May 1997)
It is not in our hands to prevent the murder of workers… and families…
but it is in our hands to fix a high price for our blood, so high that
the Arab community and the Arab military forces will not be willing to
pay it.
As quoted in Warrior: the autobiography of Ariel Sharon (1989)
We have no solution, you shall continue to live like dogs, and whoever
wishes may leave, and we will see where this process leads.
Yossi Beilin, Mehiro shel Ihud (Revivim, 1985), 42 speaking of the
Palestinians
The quote is taken from an address Dayan gave to Technion University
students on March 19, 1969. A transcription of the speech appeared in
Ha'aretz on April 4, 1969.
In answer to a student's question suggesting that Israel adopt a
policy of punishing Arabs who commit crimes in the West Bank by
deportation to Jordan, Dayan answers that he is vehemently opposed to
this idea, insisting that the answer to the longstanding Arab-Israeli
problem is to learn to live together with Arab neighbors. He goes on
to say:
“We came to a region that was inhabited by Arabs, and we set up a
Jewish state. In many places, we purchased the land from Arabs and set
up Jewish villages where there had once been Arab villages. You don't
even know the names [of the previous Arab villages] and I don't blame
you, because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not only the
books, the villages aren't around...”
Dayan's conclusion was that the solution to the Arab-Israeli problem
is to learn to coexist with them.
[edit]Righteous Victims (1999)
Quotes of Dayan from Righteous Victims : A History of the Zionist-Arab
Conflict, 1881-1999 by Benny Morris
Using the moral yardstick mentioned by [Moshe Sharett], I must ask:
Are [we justified] in opening fire on the Arabs who cross [the border]
to reap the crops they planted in our territory; they, their women,
and their children? Will this stand up to moral scrutiny . . .? We
shoot at those from among the 200,000 hungry arabs who cross the line
— will this stand up to moral review? Arabs cross to collect the grain


that they left in the abandoned villages and we set mines for them and

they go back without an arm or a leg. . . [It may be that this] cannot
pass review, but I know no other method of guarding the borders. then
tomorrow the State of Israel will have no borders.
On the anti-infiltration policy in the early 1950s
The only method that proved effective, not justified or moral but
effective, when Arabs plant mines on our side [is retaliation]. If we
try to search for the [particular] Arab [who planted mines], it has
not value. But if we harass the nearby village . . . then the
population there comes out against the [infiltrators] . . . and the
Egyptian Government and the Transjordanian Government are [driven] to
prevent such incidents, because their prestige is [assailed], as the
Jews have opened fire, and they are unready to begin a war . . . the
method of collective punishment so far has proved effective.
[edit]The Iron Wall (1999)
Quotes of Dayan from The Iron Wall: Israel and the Arab World by Avi
Shlaim
Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we
to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they
sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into
our homestead the land and villages in which they and their
forefathers have lived.
We should demand his blood not from the Arabs of Gaza but from
ourselves. . . . Let us make our reckoning today. We are a generation
of settlers, and without the steel helmet and gun barrel, we shall not
be able to plant a tree or build a house. . . . Let us not be afraid
to see the hatred that accompanies and consumes the lives of hundreds
of thousands of Arabs who sit all around us and wait for the moment
when their hands will be able to reach our blood.
We could not guard every water pipeline from being blown up and every
tree from being uprooted. We could not prevent every murder of a
worker in an orchard or a family in their beds. But it was in our
power to set high price for our blood, a price too high for the Arab
community, the Arab army, or the Arab governments to think it worth
paying. . . It was in our power to cause the Arab governments to
renounce 'the policy of strength' toward Israel by turning it into a
demonstration of weakness.
All that is required is to find an officer, even a captain would do,
to win his heart or buy him with money to get him to agreed to declare
himself the savior of the Maronite population. Then the Israeli army
will enter Lebanon, occupy the necessary territory, create a Christian
regime that will ally itself with Israel. The territory from Litani
southward will be totally annexed to Israel, and everything will fall
into place.
While trying to work out a plan to internally destabilize Lebanon in
favor of a Christian-Maronite government.
A new State of Israel with broad frontiers, strong and solid, with the
authority of the Israel Government extending from the Jordan to the
Suez Canal.
Statement made in April 1973 from the peaks of Massada.

During the last 100 years our people have been in a process of
building up the country and the nation, of expansion, of getting
additional Jews and additional settlements in order to expand the
borders here. Let no Jew say that the process has ended. Let no Jew
say that we are near the end of the road.
Ma'ariv, 7 July 1968.
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Freedom is the oxygen of the soul.
I know of nothing more exciting than war.


If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to
your enemies.

Our American friends offer us money, arms, and advice. We take the
money, we take the arms, and we decline the advice.
We have returned to the holiest of our Holy Places, never to part from
it again.
On the unification of Jerusalem by Israeli forces
[edit]Misattributions

[Israel] must see the sword as the main, if not the only, instrument
with which to keep its morale high and to retain its moral tension.
Toward this end it may, no — it must — invent dangers, and to do this
it must adopt the method of provocation-and-revenge...
This has been reported to be a direct quotation of Dayan in the
diaries of Moshe Sharett, but is actually derived from an interpretive
commentary by Livia Rokach in "Israel's Sacred Terrorism" (1980) upon
statements of Dayan reported in Sharett's diaries, from accounts
provided to him by Ya'acob Herzog and Gideon Raphael — in other words:
a third-hand interpretation of Dayan's meaning, based on a second hand
report of his arguments. Sharett's summation of Dayan's statements of
26 May 1955 read:
We do not need a security pact with the U.S.: such a pact will only
constitute an obstacle for us. We face no danger at all of an Arab
advantage of force for the next 8-10 years. Even if they receive
massive military aid from the West, we shall maintain our military
superiority thanks to our infinitely greater capacity to assimilate
new armaments. The security pact will only handcuff us and deny us the
freedom of action which we need in the coming years. Reprisal actions
which we couldn't carry out if we were tied to a security pact are our
vital lymph ... they make it possible for us to maintain a high level
of tension among our population and in the army. Without these actions
we would have ceased to be a combative people and without the
discipline of a combative people we are lost. We have to cry out that
the Negev is in danger, so that young men will go there....
Rokach's interpretive assessment of this diary entry by Sharett
produces:
The conclusions from Dayan's words are clear: This State has no
international obligations, no economic problems, the question of peace
is nonexistent... It must calculate its steps narrow-mindedly and live
on its sword. It must see the sword as the main, if not the only,
instrument with which to keep its morale high and to retain its moral
tension. Toward this end it may, no — it must — invent dangers, and to
do this it must adopt the method of provocation-and-revenge.. . . And
above all — let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries, so that
we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire our space.
[edit]Quotations about Dayan

He would wake up with a hundred ideas. Of them ninety-five were
dangerous; three more were bad; the remaining two, however, were
brilliant.
Ariel Sharon
He jumped to the sky with anger about Hebron and the provocation of
Levinger that has become such a tragedy.
Yael Dayan, Moshe's daughter.
Dayan didn't want the government to allow the kibbutzim to build there
afterwards — he hoped to trade it back for peace.

Amos Eran on the taking of the Golan Heights, as quoted in The
Washington Post (12 May 1997)
Moshe Dayan unfolded one plan after another for direct action. The
first — what should be done to force open blockade of the Gulf of
Eilat. A ship flying the Israeli flag should be sent, and if the
Egyptians bomb it, we should bomb the Egyptian base from the air, or
conquer Ras al-Naqb, or open our way south of Gaza Strip to the coast.
There was a general uproar. I asked Moshe: Do you realize that this
would mean war with Egypt?, he said: Of course.
Moshe Sharett, as quoted in Iron Wall (1999) by Avi Shlaim, on a
suggestion in the mid-1950s to lure Egypt into a war to neutralize the
modernization of its army.

Moshe Dayan saw no need for American guarantees of Israel's security
and strongly opposed America's conditions i.e. that Israel forswear
territorial expansion and military retaliation. In an informal talk
with the ambassadors to Washington, London, and Paris, Dayan describe
military retaliations as a "life drug" to the Israel Army. First, it
obliged the Arab governments to take drastic measures to protect their
borders. Second, and this was the essence, it enabled the Israeli
government to maintain a high degree of tension in the country and the
army. Gideaon Rafael, also present at the meeting with Dayan, remarked
to Moshe Sharett: "This is how fascism began in Italy and Germany!"
Iron Wall (1999) by Avi Shlaim
[edit]External links


Wikipedia has an article about:
Moshe Dayan
Brief biography at the Jewish Virtual Library
Brief biography at the Knesset
Brief biography at the History Learning Site)
Brief biography at the Jewish Agency for Israel
A Very General Archaeologist - Moshe Dayan and Israeli Archaeology by
Raz Kletter, Israel Antiquities Authority
Dayan's regrets over the Golan Heights and Hebron

HHW

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On Jul 7, 11:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 7, 5:51 am, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > > Technology), Haifa
> > > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses
>
> > Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
>
> > Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> > several years. You just can't learn, can you?
>
> > Deborah
>
> Some of what you'd like to call fake appears in his auto-biography.
> The rest was published in Israeli newspapers and he did not correct it.

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Well, just remember.... we are their masters. We make them jump... Watch...
here cramer, cramer... bark like the good little dog you are...

Yelp yelp yelp.......

We own these turds... We CONTROL them.... LOL.... It's really pretty funny
that I can make cramer post on command..... Such a dumbass......

torresD

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Moshe Dayan


It's really interesting, how people like Moshe Dayan, David Ben-Gurion,
Menachem Begin,
had no problem with laying out, admitting exactly what it is they were
doing,
stealing the land from the Palestinians by any means necessary.


However, the current crop screams bloody murder and tries to say it isn't
true,
when there is so much evidence to the contrary.

IMO, they have the .creditiabilty of Nazi Holocaust deniers, which is none.


fla...@verizon.net

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On 9-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:

> <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:t8Bck.840$4a3.1@trnddc04...
> >
> > On 7-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >> news:Xavck.1093$bn3.725@trnddc07...
> >> >
> >> > On 7-Jul-2008, DoD <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Jul 7, 12:04 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her.
> >> > [snip rest of lies]
> >> >>
> >> >> See how much of a trolling clown you are?
> >> >>
> >> >> What's next with you? Speculating on how large Deborah's or Hillel's
> >> >> noses are?
> >> >>
> >> > No, it's more lies about me & specifically attacking my
> >> > *children*. - the final resort of the worst impotent loser.
> >>
> >> That too.
> >>
> >> The funny thing is he revels in his own shit.. It is really comical.
> >
> > Sometimes. Other times, they are so pathetic
> > I really can't make myself laugh at it.
> > What a waste of propolasm they are...
>
> Well, just remember.... we are their masters. We make them jump...
> Watch...
> here cramer, cramer... bark like the good little dog you are...

True.
It's almost like LAlpert's posts are true rather than ridicule.


>
> Yelp yelp yelp.......
>
> We own these turds... We CONTROL them.... LOL.... It's really pretty funny
> that I can make cramer post on command..... Such a dumbass......

Hey at least he's off the streets & not out killing Aborigines or something.
Then there's HHW's pedophilia that Deborah seems to have uncovered.
Funny how that also runs in their "line".

Susan

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torresD wrote:

>
> It's really interesting, how people like Moshe Dayan, David Ben-Gurion,
> Menachem Begin,
> had no problem with laying out, admitting exactly what it is they were
> doing,
> stealing the land from the Palestinians by any means necessary.
>
>
> However, the current crop screams bloody murder and tries to say it isn't
> true,
> when there is so much evidence to the contrary.
>
> IMO, they have the .creditiabilty of Nazi Holocaust deniers, which is none.

The current Zionists accuse critics of Israel of anti-semitism, even
Nazism, for saying about their own era what their predecessors
admitted openly. Yet the brutally aggressive policy hasn't changed a
bit. Nor has the openly thieving ideology.

What's changed is the environment in which they operate. Political
ideologies are discredited. International law is more humanized and
gradually they have forfeited the sympathy given so freely after the
Holocaust. The latter happened because many powerful Jews abused the
memory of the victims of the Holocaust by manipulating it for
political and financial gain.

An then finally there's what they've been doing to the United States,
the only nation world-wide which remained loyal to them despite their
criminal mistreatment of the Palestinian people.

TheZ

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60 years later and still not one Arab squatter had a deed for the land they
squatted on.

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On Jul 10, 2:47 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> On  9-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > <flav...@verizon.net> wrote in messagenews:t8Bck.840$4a3.1@trnddc04...
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> > > On  7-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> <flav...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > >>news:Xavck.1093$bn3.725@trnddc07...

Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
the statues of Maryland covering defamation. I also point out that
everyone on this list knows who you are and where you live. You
apparently want a dust-up with me. If that's the case you can
certainly have it.


HHW

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On Jul 9, 10:20 pm, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> <flav...@verizon.net> wrote in messagenews:t8Bck.840$4a3.1@trnddc04...
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> > On  7-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> <flav...@verizon.net> wrote in message
> >>news:Xavck.1093$bn3.725@trnddc07...

>
> >> > On  7-Jul-2008, DoD <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> On Jul 7, 12:04 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >> >> > Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her.
> >> > [snip rest of lies]
>
> >> >> See how much of a trolling clown you are?
>
> >> >> What's next with you? Speculating on how large Deborah's or Hillel's
> >> >> noses are?
>
> >> > No, it's more lies about me & specifically attacking my
> >> > *children*. - the final resort of the worst impotent loser.

How did I lie about you? I see no reason to do that and avoid lying on
principle. There is a difference between fair criticism and lying. And
I certainly haven't "attacked" your children. That's really bizarre. I
simply used their pet names which you invited us to do by disclosing
them on the net. And it certainly wasn't done in a hostile fashion.
Instead it was exactly the opposite. We were discussing law, remember?

And Susan, just why is it that you want so badly for me to be an anti-
semite? I don't aspire to it and surely you don't want to add more
anti-semites to this world? Probably 90% of what's posted here is anti-
semitic and you ignore most of it. You attack only those who post here
effectively in support of the Palestinian people, regardless of
whether they are anti-semitic. And I am certainly not.

As we are on the subject of quotations from famous Israelis, I offer
these:

MORE QUOTES...
"We must expel Arabs and take their places."
-- David Ben Gurion, 1937, Ben Gurion and the Palestine Arabs, Oxford
University Press, 1985.


"There has been Anti-Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was
that their fault? They see but one thing: we have come and we have
stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"
-- Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox),
pp. 121-122.

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not
even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you
because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not
exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the
place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in
the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-
Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not
have a former Arab population."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann,
Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99.

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are
the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs,
because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down,
and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle,
which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2
citing a 1938 speech.

"If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by
transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to
the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not
only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the
people of Israel."
-- David Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-
Gurion in a slightly different translation).


David Ben Gurion
Prime Minister of Israel
1949 - 1954,
1955 - 1963
"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people... It is not as if we
came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist."
-- Golda Meir, statement to The Sunday Times, 15 June, 1969.

"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return
them to."
-- Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.

"Any one who speaks in favor of bringing the Arab refugees back must
also say how he expects to take the responsibility for it, if he is
interested in the state of Israel. It is better that things are stated
clearly and plainly: We shall not let this happen."
-- Golda Meir, 1961, in a speech to the Knesset, reported in Ner,
October 1961

"This country exists as the fulfillment of a promise made by God
Himself. It would be ridiculous to ask it to account for its
legitimacy."
-- Golda Meir, Le Monde, 15 October 1971


Golda Meir
Prime Minister of Israel
1969 - 1974

"We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his
question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-
Gurion waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!"
-- Yitzhak Rabin, leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published
in the New York Times, 23 October 1979.

"[Israel will] create in the course of the next 10 or 20 years
conditions which would attract natural and voluntary migration of the
refugees from the Gaza Strip and the west Bank to Jordan. To achieve
this we have to come to agreement with King Hussein and not with
Yasser Arafat."
-- Yitzhak Rabin (a "Prince of Peace" by Clinton's standards),
explaining his method of ethnically cleansing the occupied land
without stirring a world outcry. (Quoted in David Shipler in the New
York Times, 04/04/1983 citing Meir Cohen's remarks to the Knesset's
foreign affairs and defense committee on March 16.)

Yitzhak Rabin
Prime Minister of Israel
1974 - 1977,
1992 - 1995

"[The Palestinians] are beasts walking on two legs."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin, speech to the Knesset,
quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the 'Beasts,"' New Statesman,
June 25, 1982.

"The Partition of Palestine is illegal. It will never be
recognized .... Jerusalem was and will for ever be our capital. Eretz
Israel will be restored to the people of Israel. All of it. And for
Ever."
-- Menachem Begin, the day after the U.N. vote to partition Palestine.

Menachem Begin
Prime Minister of Israel
1977 - 1983

"The past leaders of our movement left us a clear message to keep
Eretz Israel from the Sea to the River Jordan for future generations,
for the mass aliya (=Jewish immigration), and for the Jewish people,
all of whom will be gathered into this country."
-- Former Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir declares at a Tel Aviv
memorial service for former Likud leaders, November 1990. Jerusalem
Domestic Radio Service.

"The settlement of the Land of Israel is the essence of Zionism.
Without settlement, we will not fulfill Zionism. It's that simple."
-- Yitzhak Shamir, Maariv, 02/21/1997.

"(The Palestinians) would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads
smashed against the boulders and walls."
-- Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) Yitzhak Shamir in a speech to
Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988

Yizhak Shamir
Prime Minister of Israel
1983 - 1984,
1986 - 1992

"Israel should have exploited the repression of the demonstrations in
China, when world attention focused on that country, to carry out mass
expulsions among the Arabs of the territories."
-- Benyamin Netanyahu, then Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister, former
Prime Minister of Israel, speaking to students at Bar Ilan University,
from the Israeli journal Hotam, November 24, 1989.

Benjamin Netanyahu
Prime Minister of Israel
1996 - 1999
"The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat,
they want more"....
-- Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time - August 28, 2000.
Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000

"If we thought that instead of 200 Palestinian fatalities, 2,000 dead
would put an end to the fighting at a stroke, we would use much more
force...."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, quoted in Associated Press,
November 16, 2000.

"I would have joined a terrorist organization."
-- Ehud Barak's response to Gideon Levy, a columnist for the Ha'aretz
newspaper, when Barak was asked what he would have done if he had been
born a Palestinian.


Ehud Barak
Prime Minister of Israel
1999 - 2001

"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion,
clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten
with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,
colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and
the expropriation of their lands."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of
militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France
Presse, November 15, 1998.

"Everybody has to move, run and grab as many (Palestinian) hilltops as
they can to enlarge the (Jewish) settlements because everything we
take now will stay ours...Everything we don't grab will go to them."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of the
Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, Nov. 15, 1998.

"Israel may have the right to put others on trial, but certainly no
one has the right to put the Jewish people and the State of Israel on
trial."
-- Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, 25 March, 2001 quoted in BBC
News Online

Ariel Sharon
Prime Minister of Israel
2001 - present


I don't think anti-semitic diatribes

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In case you might have understood, I speak of a legal dust up.

Al Smith

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The American people haven't remained loyal to Israel -- they've been
brainwashed and are being controlled by Israel and its agents within
the United States, through the use of the mass news and
entertainment media. Their politicians have been bought off by
Israel and its Zionist backers. There is nothing to be loyal to --
Israel is a criminal regime.

-Al-

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***

And Susan, just why is it that you want so badly for me to be an anti-
semite? I don't aspire to it and surely you don't want to add more
anti-semites to this world? Probably 90% of what's posted here is anti-
semitic and you ignore most of it.
***

Because they don't pretend not to be.


HHW

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What a stupid pretense that would be! There was never any question but
that I would follow the American interest in these conversations.
It's obvious that one can't do that on such ngs without howls of "anti-
semite" and "Jew hater." And this coming from Americans. What benefit
would there have been for me to twist my own persona like you have
just done so despicably here? The result would have been exactly the
same. And besides, I'm not comfortable with that sort of behavior.
It's duplicitous.

I consider following the American interest to be principled for an
American. How about you? If you're like most dual-loyalty Zionists you
won't want to discuss it. We'll see.

HHW

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Jul 10, 2008, 11:38:39 PM7/10/08
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The "buy-off" is two edged. The poor bastards can't win. If they play
the game they get "campaign contributions," frequently large. If they
don't their opponent in the next election gets the money. There are
also whispering campaigns, etc. It's very slimy, complete with
labeling, etc. What's being done here in this thread is the basic
mendacious style.

DoD

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"HHW" <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:501a3270-ed5c-42d6...@c65g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

Shut up dingleberry. Nobody cares what an impotent twerp like you has to say
about anything.


Al Smith

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Yes, even so. The behavior we see in these groups by Zionist
apologists towards their critics is similar to the behavior that
those targeted by AIPAC and other Zionist organizations are
subjected to, if they step out of line. It's the old carrot and
stick. The carrot is money and support by influential individuals
and organizations; the stick is to be shunned, cut off from funds
and support, and to be slandered and libeled ceaseless, often for
years. Look at what has happened to Noam Chomsky.

AIPAC has American politicians completely and utterly cowed into
submission. It's become increasingly evident that AIPAC owns
Washington. When they have their little meetings, all the big names
in politics from both sides rush forward to kiss their boots while
they are being kicked. Meanwhile, the Zionist controlled media keeps
the American people in a kind of impotent, vegetative state.

The influence of Zionists on American politics and the popular
media, coupled with the influence of Israel on foreign policy, may
be the single largest factor in the decline of America. There seems
to be no end to this decline -- the dull-witted American sheep keep
sending their tax dollars to Israel, and keep fighting Israel's
wars. It's as if they are all in some sort of sick trance.

-Al-

fla...@verizon.net

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Jul 11, 2008, 3:22:57 AM7/11/08
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Kewl!

> > I demand that you retract it in accord with
> > the statues of Maryland covering defamation.

I demand that HHW stop making me laugh so hard -
makes it harder to ype, & Lord knows I'm careless enough as it is...

> > I also point out that
> > everyone on this list knows who you are and where you live.

I would like to point out that "everyone" is as stupid as HHW.

> > You
> > apparently want a dust-up with me.

Look what's talking.
He's been after me for a looong time.

> >If that's the case you can
> > certainly have it.
>
> >In case you might have understood, I speak of a legal >dust up.
>
> Shut up dingleberry. Nobody cares what an impotent twerp like you has to
> say about anything.

If he is stupid enough to try to sue me for defamation,
that's fine w/me. I'll ask Deborah for her evidence. It was
undoubtedly something the slimebag said.

Susan

fla...@verizon.net

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Jul 11, 2008, 3:24:39 AM7/11/08
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I have no idea who that idiot is, but I ignore *every* anti-semite
until it's shoved under my nose by those I do read.
I've explain this any number of times, & it's always some lying
bigot who''s too stupid to grasp it.

(& I'm betting this was HHW, stil lpretending as feebly as only
he knows how that he's not the obvious Jew-hater he's proven
himself to be.)

Susan

HHW

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Jul 11, 2008, 6:50:33 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11, 2:22 am, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> On 11-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "HHW" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Yes, do just that, Susan. You whistle past the graveyard.

HHW

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Jul 11, 2008, 7:03:44 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11, 2:22 am, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> On 11-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "HHW" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

You repeated it without so much as looking into the matter. That's
malice.

HHW

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Jul 11, 2008, 8:44:43 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11, 2:22 am, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> On 11-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danskisan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "HHW" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message


1. kewl
A stupid way of spelling "cool". Made up by morons.
"I'm a stupid whore who spells cool "kewl"
by Person who hates the word kewl Oct 31, 2002 email it 3 comments

2. kewl
Internet slang and spelling for the word "cool"
Urbandictionary.com is a kewl site.
by anonymous Feb 21, 2003 email it 0 comments

3. kewl 547 up, 332 down
The stupidest possible mispelling of a word in existance. Not only is
it wrong, but it is also harder to type than "cool".

dsha...@hotmail.com

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Jul 7, 2008, 2:50:02 PM7/7/08
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> On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > Technology), Haifa
> > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

> <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:0221cec9-5619-4c84...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...


> Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
> Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> several years. You just can't learn, can you?
> Deborah

On Jul 7, 10:56 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> <dshara...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:0221cec9-5619-4c84...@e53g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...

> There are Nazi Holocaust deniers,
> people that despite overwhelming evidence
> continue to deny the horror that was the Nazi Holocaust.

Pallies chief among them.

> They are lying, they are liars.

Pallies sure are.

> On April 8-9 1948  Ben-Gurion told
> Mishmar Ha'emek representatives to
> burn and destroy the neighboring
> villages,

Bullshit.

Deborah

Count 1

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"HHW" <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ebcdb624-6a68-4568...@27g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...

On Jul 10, 8:56 pm, "Count 1" <omnipitus2...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> ***
> And Susan, just why is it that you want so badly for me to be an anti-
> semite? I don't aspire to it and surely you don't want to add more
> anti-semites to this world? Probably 90% of what's posted here is anti-
> semitic and you ignore most of it.
> ***
>
> Because they don't pretend not to be.

***


What a stupid pretense that would be! There was never any question but
that I would follow the American interest in these conversations.

***

Nonsequitur.

***


It's obvious that one can't do that on such ngs without howls of "anti-
semite" and "Jew hater."

***

Following the American interests means supporting Israel. Criticising Israel
by relying on negative jewish stereotypes is anti-semitism, and that is what
you do.

You can toss up all the flack you want about being a loyal American, and
only having her concerns at heart (none of which is convincing since you
consistently prove yourself to be as smart as brick) but I've been on usenet
a long time and am unimpressed with poor attempts at dodging the issue. If
you want you can try again, but stay on topic please.


dsh...@gmail.com

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Jul 11, 2008, 11:49:41 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 11, 4:03 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> You repeated it without so much as looking into the matter. That's
> malice.

You do it all the time. That's your hypocrisy--not to mention your
stupidity and bigotry. BTW, care to point out where I made that
"disgusting racial slur" you claimed I made against Al Sharpton. Of
course you don't.

Deborah


dsh...@gmail.com

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Jul 11, 2008, 11:51:32 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
> publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
> the statues of Maryland covering defamation.

I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
concerning remarks I never made.

Deborah

dsha...@hotmail.com

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On Jul 8, 5:16 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Don't you just love Benny Morris." (Deborah)

"Don't you just love NAMBLA/Mexico." (Hunter Watson)

Deborah

dsha...@hotmail.com

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Jul 11, 2008, 11:54:32 AM7/11/08
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On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
> publishing it originally.

No more than your "re-publishing" (i.e., posting to Usenet) the
various and sundry lies you've posted.

Deborah

dsha...@hotmail.com

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On Jul 8, 5:16 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Don't you just love Benny Morris." (Deborah)

"Don't you just love NAMBA/Mexico." (Hunter Watson)

Deborah

Kurt Knoll

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:23:24 PM7/11/08
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There you go Deborah How much money did you Jewish con artist embezzle from
the German people in the last 60 Years. There is no business like the shoa
business. Just make sure the there Germans never get to see all the facts
and I mean the true and honest facts.
Kurt Knoll.

<dsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:f458bb63-e183-4f38...@s50g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...

albertus magnus II

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Jul 11, 2008, 12:27:30 PM7/11/08
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"Kurt Knoll" <kkn...@yahoo.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:0OLdk.70647$Jx.41554@pd7urf1no...

> There you go Deborah How much money did you Jewish con artist embezzle
> from the German people in the last 60 Years. There is no business like the
> shoa business. Just make sure the there Germans never get to see all the
> facts and I mean the true and honest facts.
> Kurt Knoll.

How much money did the jews Knolly from
the German people in the last 60 Years???

Eli Grubman

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Jul 11, 2008, 1:06:29 PM7/11/08
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>Debwhorah

You are known for making racial slurs against "wetbacks", jew whore.

Eli

B KKKramer

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"HHW" <coaste...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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-------

Of course it is malice, just like everything else in this newsgroup. Stop
your silly whining and get on with your life.


** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **

Jewdas

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Jul 10, 2008, 4:22:41 PM7/10/08
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DoD wrote:
> <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message news:t8Bck.840$4a3.1@trnddc04...
>> On 7-Jul-2008, "DoD" <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> <fla...@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>> news:Xavck.1093$bn3.725@trnddc07...

>>>> On 7-Jul-2008, DoD <danski...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 7, 12:04 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps we can call on Rabbi Mordechai to analyze her.
>>>> [snip rest of lies]
>>>>> See how much of a trolling clown you are?
>>>>>
>>>>> What's next with you? Speculating on how large Deborah's or Hillel's
>>>>> noses are?
>>>>>
>>>> No, it's more lies about me & specifically attacking my
>>>> *children*. - the final resort of the worst impotent loser.
>>> That too.
>>>
>>> The funny thing is he revels in his own shit.. It is really comical.
>> Sometimes. Other times, they are so pathetic
>> I really can't make myself laugh at it.
>> What a waste of propolasm they are...
>
> Well, just remember.... we are their masters. We make them jump... Watch...
> here cramer, cramer... bark like the good little dog you are...
>
> Yelp yelp yelp.......
>
> We own these turds... We CONTROL them.... LOL.... It's really pretty funny
> that I can make cramer post on command..... Such a dumbass......

Yeah..We know...David is again posting from under the bed, snuggled up
to all the empty booze containers and empty crack baggies. He has puked
all over himself, but in his mental condition isn't even aware of it.

Jewdas

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So Sayeth the traitorous little prick, David. David gets high sniffing
Susans ass. Thats as close to a female as he is ever likely to get. Tell
us all about why a fat ugly little bastard like you is still a drunken,
drug saturated Virgin. David cannot even get a job, or maybe he likes
welfare too much.

LApert

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Jul 11, 2008, 2:13:21 AM7/11/08
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Hating Palestinians is antisemitic you fucking moron!
Matter of fact they are more Semitic than the Ashkenazim.

fla...@verizon.net

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Jul 11, 2008, 3:48:50 PM7/11/08
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As if we needed another lesson in how hideous a hypocrite any given bigot
is.

Susan

fla...@verizon.net

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Jul 11, 2008, 3:52:25 PM7/11/08
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As if we needed any further proof as to just how obnoxious a
hypocrite HHW is, here it is. There isn't a singe thing he's ever
repeated about me (for just one example) that he's actually looked
into.

> That's
> malice.
> -------
See what I mean about projecting?
If it was malice, then he can only know because that's *exactly* what
he does when he's spewing all those *proven* lies about everyone else.
& yet he still pretends he's actually a lawyer!!

> Of course it is malice, just like everything else in this newsgroup. Stop
> your silly whining and get on with your life.

What life? This is obviously the only life he has!

Susan

fla...@verizon.net

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Jul 11, 2008, 3:57:36 PM7/11/08
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On 11-Jul-2008, dsh...@gmail.com wrote:

I demand he stop lying about Judaism in general.
I demand he stop lying about you making any sort
of cannibalistic remarks.

Or, if that's too difficult, I demand he stop stealing
air from deserving winos.

Susan

Eli Grubman

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Jul 11, 2008, 5:16:15 PM7/11/08
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On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:57:36 GMT, fla...@verizon.net wrote:

>
>On 11-Jul-2008, dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>> > publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>> > the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>
>> I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>> against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>> concerning remarks I never made.
>
>I demand he stop lying about Judaism in general.

I demand you stop pretending to be a jew in general.

>I demand he stop lying about you making any sort
>of cannibalistic remarks.

Except that it's too late. Google has the record.

>Or, if that's too difficult, I demand he stop stealing
>air from deserving winos.
>
>Susan

I demand that you try spreading your cheeks for Gary without using
Vaseline.

Eli

Panta Rhei

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Jul 11, 2008, 6:59:41 PM7/11/08
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Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:

Well, now take a guess of the all things that YOU are known for all over
Usenet, you subnormal, racist, psychopathic pervert? Just take a guess! Give
it a try, you poor, bleeding psycho! I'll tell you if you guessed properly!
LMAO!

And here you can see the same miserable retard again, right now posting as
Eli Grabmen, already fully retarded in 2002, posting almost the identical
garbage he keeps still posting today:

http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/tiscali-kook.html

ROTFLOL

Panta Rhei

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Jul 11, 2008, 7:15:46 PM7/11/08
to
Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:

I demand that you will keep exposing your sickness, your retardation,
perversion and mental ruin and keep bleeding every day in these groups as
you've been doing for over SIX YEARS already! LMAO!

Here's the same miserable retard again, right now posting as Eli Grabmen,


already fully retarded in 2002, posting almost the identical garbage he
keeps still posting today:

http://home.nyc.rr.com/cypherpunk/tiscali-kook.html

ROTFLOL

Boy, are you going to bleed again! LOL

Thanks for all the entertainment at your expense, you poor, miserable clown!
LMAO!

F'up

dsha...@hotmail.com

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Jul 11, 2008, 7:18:06 PM7/11/08
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This is simply MOTSS, and doesn't even begin to address the fake Dayan
"quote", the sole source of which is Walid Khalidi's falsification.

Actual quote:

What Dayan actually stated, as reported by Haaretz on 19th March 1969:
"We came to a region that was inhabited by Arabs, and we set up a
Jewish state. In many places, WE PURCHASED THE LAND FROM
ARABS AND SET UP JEWISH VILLAGES where there had once been
Arab villages. You don't even know the names and I don't blame you,
because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not only the
books, the villages aren't around."

It goes without saying that the falsifiers were banking on the
ignorance of their readers, not to mention their general laziness; no
doub that is why the following was then appended to the original
falisified quote, to make it appear a part of the original, which it
was not:

> > Nahlal arose in the
> > place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in
> > the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of Tal al-
> > Shuman. There is not one single place built in this country that did
> > not have a former Arab population."
> > MosheDayan, in Haifa, quoted by Ha'aretz, April, 4 1969

None of these villages appear on the lists of "destroyed"
"Palestinian" villages -- or were even mentioned in Dayan's speech
-- and with reason:

"Nahlal" -- Nahalal -- was Dayan's home; he grew up there. It was the
first moshav in Israel; his parents were among the founders; and it
was built on empty land PURCHASED from the ARAB owner.

"Mahlul" was an Ottoman legal term, and is currently a Jordanian legal
term, for state-owned land.

"Kibbutz Gvat" - Which one? There are several.

"Jibta" was purchased by the Jewish Agency in 1926 from the Arab
owners; records show that it had NO population.

"Kibbutz Sarid" was built in the Jezre'el, like Dayan's home moshav,
on lands PURCHASED from the ARAB landowner.

"Kefar Yehushu'a" - Moshav Kfar Yehoshua was built adjacent to Dayan's
childhood home, on the same EMPTY 27,000 acre tract PURCHASED from the
ARAB owners. It didn't replace any "Tal al-Shuman" -- or "Tel Shamam"
or "Tell Shaman"; -- there was nothing to replace.

>>There is not a single place built in this country that did
>>not have a former Arab population."

More of the fabricated quote. It directly contradicts everything Dayan
ever said or wrote.

What CAN be said - and with far greater truth -- is that Arab Nazareth
was built on top of Jewish Natzaret, Arab Jenin was built on top of
Jewish Ganim, Arab Nablus on top of Jewish Shechem, Arab Tulkarm on
top of Jewish Tolekarma, Arab Ramallah on top of Jewish Ramatayim, and
so on.

Deborah

dsha...@hotmail.com

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Jul 11, 2008, 7:21:04 PM7/11/08
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> > > > > On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > > > > > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > > > > > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > > > > > Technology), Haifa
> > > > > > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > > > > > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > > > > > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

> > > > On Jul 7, 5:51 am, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>


> > > > wrote:
> > > > > Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
> > > > > Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> > > > > several years. You just can't learn, can you?
> > > > > Deborah

> > > On Jul 7, 9:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > Some of what you'd like to call fake appears in his auto-biography.

> > On Jul 7, 1:48 pm, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Quote it -- if you can.

> > > On Jul 7, 9:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > > The rest was published in Israeli newspapers and he did not correct it

> > > Quote it - if you can.
> > > Deborah

> On Jul 8, 7:19 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > "Arabs cross to collect the grain that they left in the abandoned
> > villages and we set mines for them and they go back without
> > an arm or a leg."
> > Moshe Dayan

The falsified “quote” you're attempting – and failing – to support is
not supported by anything from Dayan's autobiography OR from Israeli
newspapers. The source of the falsified quote is, as with so many
others, Walid Khalidi.

Do you want the corrections to that fake quote again?

Obviously, you can't quote anything from Dayan's autobiography,
despite your phony insinuations, because you've never read it.
Likewise, for the same reason, you can't quote anything from what you
claim are Israeli newspapers.

On Jul 9, 7:35 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> If you want to make peace, you don't talk to your friends. You talk to
> your enemies.
> Moshe Dayan

If you'd bother to actually read the Wiki entry from which you pasted
this, you would have noticed that this is an UNSOURCED saying
attributed to Dayan.

“As I have said before, one does not make peace with one's friends.
One makes peace with one's enemy.” Yitzhak Rabin, 13th December 1993

“Israel should make sure that her borders follow the line from Sharm
el-Sheikh to El Arish, the length of the Jordan River, and along the
Golan Heights.” Moshe Dayan, Story of My Life, p 615

Deborah

dsha...@hotmail.com

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Jul 11, 2008, 7:29:48 PM7/11/08
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> > > > On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > > > > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > > > > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > > > > Technology), Haifa
> > > > > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > > > > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > > > > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

> > > On Jul 7, 5:51 am, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
> > > > Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> > > > several years. You just can't learn, can you?
> > > > Deborah

> > On Jul 7, 9:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Some of what you'd like to call fake appears in his auto-biography.

> On Jul 7, 1:48 pm, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Quote it -- if you can.

> > On Jul 7, 9:54 am, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > The rest was published in Israeli newspapers and he did not correct it

> > Quote it - if you can.
> > Deborah

On Jul 9, 7:45 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Moshe Dayan
> Moshe Dayan
> Moshe Dayan (20 May 1915 - 16 October 1981), was an Israeli military
> leader and politician.

I can read the Wiki entry for myself, thank you. Obviously, you can't
– just as you can't quote directly from anything you cite, because you
have never read it, and have no plans to do so, as long as you think
you can fake it.

If you had bothered to read the Wiki entry, you would have noticed
that it contradicts Torres's Khalidi falsified "quote".

> “We came to a region that was inhabited by Arabs, and we
> set up a Jewish state. In many places, we PURCHASED THE
> LAND FROM THE ARABS and set up Jewish villages where


> there had once been Arab villages. You don't even know the

> names [of the previous Arab villages] and I don't blame you,


> because those geography books aren't around anymore. Not

>only the books, the villages aren't around...”

If you had bothered to read the entire transcript – Palliebullers
correctly bank on the assumption that no one will – you would have
found that the reason those Arab villages were “no longer there” were
due to the very straightened circumstances prevailing in the 19thC—not
because the Evil Jooz had chased away the poor Nazi-supporting
Fakestinians a century later.

To continue with the fake Khalidi "quote" --

> >> > > Nahlal arose in the
> >> > > place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in
> >> > > the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushu'a in the place of Tal al-
> >> > > Shuman. There is not one single place built in this country that did
> >> > > not have a former Arab population."
> >> > > MosheDayan, in Haifa, quoted by Ha'aretz, April, 4 1969

"Nahlal" -- Nahalal -- was Dayan's home; he grew up there. It was the

dsha...@hotmail.com

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> > > On Jul 6, 9:26 am, "torresD" <torres...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >http://www.palestineremembered.com/Acre/Famous-Zionist-Quotes/Story64...
> > > > We next find Moshe Dayan addressing
> > > > the Technion (Israel Institute of
> > > > Technology), Haifa
> > > > (as quoted in Ha'aretz, 4 April 1969).
> > > > Dayan had no idea how much his statement
> > > > has awakened thousands of sleeping horses

> > On Jul 7, 5:51 am, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Or how much horseshit they'd leave.
> > > Fake quote, fake source -- already disproved several times, over
> > > several years. You just can't learn, can you?
> > > Deborah

> "HHW" <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:972a7553-8d52-4628...@y38g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...


> > Some of what you'd like to call fake appears in his auto-biography.

> > The rest was published in Israeli newspapers and he did not correct it.

You've already proven yourself incapable of quoting from Dayan's
autobiography, or anything from Israeli newspapers; you've never
bestirred yourself to read anything beyond snippets from your
antisemitic sources.

> Moshe Dayan
> Moshe Dayan
> Moshe Dayan (20 May 1915 - 16 October 1981), was an Israeli military
> leader and politician.

How nice! You can paste the Wiki entry three times in a row. Too bad
that, as usual, you haven't a clue what you're trying to say.

> On Israeli settlements on the Golan Heights and in Hebron, in a 1976
> interview with Rami Tal, as quoted in Associated Press reports (11 May
> 1997)

Rami Tal's so-called “secret interview” with Dayan, which Tal
supposedly hid for two decades before deciding to “reveal” it,
contradicts nearly everything Dayan ever said or wrote. He published
his alleged “secret interview” during one of the political campaigns
of Dayan's daughter, whom Dayan had cut out of his last will.

> Along the Syria border there were no farms and no refugee camps —
> there was only the Syrian army... The kibbutzim saw the good
> agricultural land ... and they dreamed about it... They didn't even
> try to hide their greed for the land... We would send a tractor to
> plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the
> demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start
> to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance
> further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot. And
> then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's
> how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a
> threat to us.

“The heightened tension that developed between Israel and
Syria in the period preceding the Six Day War sprang from the
extremist character of Syria's regime; a fanatical hatred of Israel;
attempts to divert from Israel the water sources of the Jordan River;
and the Syrian army's sponsorship of terrorist action.
“Syria followed a more hostile policy toward us than the
other Arab states. Apart from trying to prevent Israel from using the
waters of the Jordan or working the lands in the demilitarized zones
on the Israeli side of the international frontier, she also repeatedly
shelled Israeli border settlements. In pursuing this aggressive
policy, Syria enjoyed a topographical advantage, since she was able to
dominate the Jordan and Huleh valleys from the Golan Heightsw. Syria
also received unlimited support from the Soviet Union. To Russia,
Syria's rulers, the leaders of the left-wing Ba'ath Party, were
“Moscow's darlings,” to be petted and pampered, for their country was
part of the land route from the Soviet Union to the Persian Gulf.
“Israel suffered considerably from Syria's hostile
actions but found it difficult to reply by comparably military means.
Her artillery could not reach Syrian army bases on the high ground,
and Israel had no wish to fire on civilian villages in reply to the
shelling of her own. Border incidents between Syria and Israel
increased in number and gravity. On March 5, 1967, an Israeli tractor
plowing near Kibbutz Shamir, close to the the Syrian border, went up
on a mine, and the farmer was seriously wounded. A month later there
was an exchange of fire when Israelis were plowing their fields in the
demilitarized zones near the Sea of Galilee. The most serious incident
occurred on April 7. After the Syrians shelled three kibbutzim at the
foot of the Golan Heights...”
Moshe Dayan, Story of My Life, pp 289-290

“At the start of the operation, the Syrian front line
appeared impregnable. From their commanding and well-fortified
positions on the heights, the Syrians completely dominated the narrow
routes up the steep escarpment our forces had to use, so that they
were pounded by artillery before they could get anywhere near the
enemy.”
Dayan, p 375

“At this stage, the Syrian army displayed no signs of
disintegration. On the contrary, the battle was tough and stubborn,
taking a having toll of casualties. Our soldiers had to apply all
their skill and devotion in negotiating the steep, rocky tracks. The
Syrians' reinforced-concrete fortifications, which were impregnable to
shelling, were the scenes of bitter hand-to-hand fighting. From
Northern Command headquarters, Ezer [Weizman] and I watched as our
planes attacked the Syrian positions. I have never seen Ezer in such a
state of inner turmoil...On Friday the Syrians continued to fight
vigorously, and our forces had to pay a heavy price for their
victories.” Yitzhak Rabin, Memoirs, pp 116, 117

Now, Hunter, you have got it, haven't you, that it was Yitzhak Rabin
who said that "one does not make peace with one's friends. One makes
peace with one's enemy,” have you?

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“As I have said before, one does not make peace with one's friends.


One makes peace with one's enemy.” Yitzhak Rabin, 13th December 1993

“Israel should make sure that her borders follow the line from Sharm

dsha...@hotmail.com

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> torresD wrote:
> > It's really interesting, how people like Moshe Dayan, David
> > Ben-Gurion, Menachem Begin, had no problem with laying
> > out, admitting exactly what it is they were doing, stealing
> >the land from the Palestinians by any means necessary.

Liar. You've parroted the Fakestinian lies about this for years, and
it's sad to see that you're still parroting them.

On Jul 10, 3:11 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> The current Zionists accuse critics of Israel of anti-semitism, even
> Nazism, for saying about their own era what their predecessors
> admitted openly.

HHW hasn't a clue what their “predecessors” admitted or didn't admit,
having never read anything beyond Palliebull nuggets.

[flush usual Jews-run-the-country HHWbull]

Deborah

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> > On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
> > > publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
> > > the statues of Maryland covering defamation.

> On 11-Jul-2008, dshr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
> > against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
> > concerning remarks I never made.

On Jul 11, 12:57 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> I demand he stop lying about Judaism in general.
> I demand he stop lying about you making any sort
> of cannibalistic remarks.
> Or, if that's too difficult, I demand he stop stealing
> air from deserving winos.
> Susan

Isn't that "from tequila-os"? Or whatever you call a drunk who choice
of poison is usually tequila.

Deborah

dsha...@hotmail.com

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> > On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
> > > publishing it originally.

> > No more than your "re-publishing" (i.e., posting to Usenet) the
> > various and sundry lies you've posted.

On Jul 11, 12:48 pm, flav...@verizon.net wrote:
> As if we needed another lesson in how hideous a hypocrite any given bigot
> is.
> Susan

A hypocrite, and a senile old shylock trying to pretend he was ever
something more than a large, old fish in a very tiny pond.

dsha...@hotmail.com

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On Jul 8, 5:16 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> "Don't you just love Benny Morris." (Deborah)

"Don't you just love NAMBLA/Mexico." (Hunter Watson)

Deborah

4PeaceMirelle

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On Jul 11, 4:40 pm, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
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http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Deborah Sharavi Oct 11 2004, 11:32 pm

>On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200, “Heinrich”
<Hein...@mailgate.org> wrote:
>As usual, you left out the part about the IDF eating their palestinian
>prey after they kill them. It’s the reason the dead palestinian
>numbers are so low and the missing count is so high.
Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.

In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.

Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame. Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an
hour.

Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider. Bring to a boil,
add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2
hours.

Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the
vegetables to squeeze out the liquids.

Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)
________________________________
# 25 Franklin Brown Says:
June 12, 2008 at 12:51 am
What nonsense!

The posting clearly states that it’s a Palestinian recipe, NOT Israeli
or Zionist. And everyone knows that a kid is a baby goat.

Why you people have to twist every single thing into something
sinister is beyond me. You are just a bunch of opportunistic racists,
nothing more, nothing less.

# 54 David Goodman Says:
June 23, 2008 at 9:59 pm
All you have to do is look at the most horrendous sights of inter-
racial or inter-religious disputes, and see that more than 80% of the
cases involve muslim fundamentalists.
OK, there are extremists on every side, we have had our share of noisy
minorities, however, in most societies, the noisy extremists do not
call the cards. They are a minority, noisy, the role of the doom
profits - everyone has them - marginally. But, where the Palestinians
and Arab countries in general are concerned, this minority is the
leadership, and it is extreme in it’s views, in it’s goals and
aspirations. Terrorism, bombings, killings, anything bloody will do.
Imagine having a neighbor like this, and let me see YOU tell HIM what
he should and shouldn’t do.
P.S. The recipe calls for goat, a kid is a goat. As can bee seen by
the addition of: (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture).

# 55 That's Insane Says:
June 24, 2008 at 12:51 am
David Goodman, do you still claim “kid” means “goat”?:

Cider-Braised Jewish Kid

8 small sage leaves
1 Jewish Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped

Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.

In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.

Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame. Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an
hour.

Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider. Bring to a boil,
add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2
hours.

Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the
vegetables to squeeze out the liquids.

Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.

Serves lots of Kikes.

# 56 Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
June 24, 2008 at 7:11 am
Clever. Franklin Brown & David Goodman’s arguments that kid means
goat, have been shown to be what they are — a lie.
Scratch a liar find a thief. Both men are ZIONISTS, both SUPPORT
THEFT, since that is what ISRAEL is based on — THEFT.

# 57 Mieko Fujimoto Says:
June 25, 2008 at 7:05 am
I am ashamed to say we eat very many foods in Japan that should be
forbidden. I do not. People in my country do. Eating people is
something we would never consider in Japan. I wonder if they eat
people in Israel? How else would this person write a recipe like this?
It is not funny, so what is the point? It must be a real cannibal
recipe. Maybe the person is mentally ill though. It is hard to tell.
Zionist are all mentally ill. They treat Palestinians like America
treated Japan. Two nuclear bombs. Genocide.

# 58 NO MORE WARS FOR ISRAEL Says:
June 26, 2008 at 2:15 am
Deborah Sharavi, do you enjoy being a cannibal?

# 59 Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
June 28, 2008 at 6:56 pm
When they wanna see
How evil people could be
They’ll just remember
Deborah Sharavi’s “recipe”

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Charles G. Says:
July 5, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Inappropriate.
Dead children are not fodder for zionist, demented humor.


Eric Lindstrom Says:
July 6, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Another way for the author to say she wants all Palestinians dead.
Hate is expressed in many forms.


R.C. Says:
July 7, 2008 at 6:07 am
This butcher’s cur is venom-mouthed…


Tania Says:
July 7, 2008 at 6:35 am
Deborah Sharavi probably stuck pins in her dolls and pulled wings off
butterflies.


Matt G. Says:
July 9, 2008 at 2:43 am
If Zionism were Judaism, anti-Semitism would be a moral imperative.
The zionist, cannibalistic “recipe”, proves it.

____________________________________________________

Mirelle

4PeaceMirelle

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On Jul 11, 4:42 pm, "dshara...@hotmail.com" <dshara...@hotmail.com>
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http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

Serves lots of Pallies.

Deborah

Cider-Braised Jewish Kid

Serves lots of Kikes.

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/

http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/
___________________________________________________

Mirelle

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4PeaceMirelle <anam...@gmail.com> wrote in news:503793ea-bb5f-4761-ac51-
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> Mirelle

Not now.

SPAM, lies and bullshit snipped.

(courtesy of ben cramer)

I'll Always Be Here

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Eli Grubman

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:59:41 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
wrote:

>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>writes:
>
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT), dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>>>> publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>>>> the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>>
>>>I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>>>against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>>>concerning remarks I never made.
>>>
>>>Debwhorah
>>
>> You are known for making racial slurs against "wetbacks", jew whore.
>>
>> Eli

<snip the Grik retard's pidgin English>

groups added and fuckups changed

Eli

Eli Grubman

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:15:46 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
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>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb


>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>writes:
>
>
>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:57:36 GMT, fla...@verizon.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On 11-Jul-2008, dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> > Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>>>> > publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>>>> > the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>>>
>>>> I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>>>> against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>>>> concerning remarks I never made.
>>>
>>>I demand he stop lying about Judaism in general.
>>
>> I demand you stop pretending to be a jew in general.
>>
>>>I demand he stop lying about you making any sort
>>>of cannibalistic remarks.
>>
>> Except that it's too late. Google has the record.
>>
>>>Or, if that's too difficult, I demand he stop stealing
>>>air from deserving winos.
>>>
>>>Susan
>>
>> I demand that you try spreading your cheeks for Gary without using
>> Vaseline.
>>
>> Eli
>

<snip the Grik retard's pidgin English>

FourCell

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<dsh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>> publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>> the statues of Maryland covering defamation.

>I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>concerning remarks I never made.

>Deborah

I'm currently engaged in going through the Google archives, extracting
falsehoods, lies, slanderous and libelous posts of yours, Sara Salzman's,
Susan Cohen's and Tilly's.

It's a much bigger job than I thought.

You lot have been very busy.

FourCell

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>
> On 11-Jul-2008, dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>> > publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>> > the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>
>> I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>> against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>> concerning remarks I never made.
>
> I demand he stop lying about Judaism in general.
> I demand he stop lying about you making any sort
> of cannibalistic remarks.

That's not a lie. I have her original post where she provides a recipe for
cooking Palestinian children.

You're a dreadful liar (among other things.)

FourCell

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Which is more than you have ever, or will ever be.

Eli Grubman

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:06:33 +1000, "FourCell" <four...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

One of them (Suzy Cohen) isn't even a real jew but an Irish 'convert'!
However, Lying for Gullible Gentiles 101 is a mandatory course in jew
conversion school.

Eli

Panta Rhei

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Jul 12, 2008, 7:57:32 AM7/12/08
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Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:

<snip this degenerate, psychopathic, racist pig's known useless garbage
unread>

Just watch the poor psycho desperately fighting for his online survival!
LMAO!

The miserable psycho still can't believe that all this here is happening to
him now after his SIX YEARS of insane trolling in all these groups! ROTFLOL

Innit, my new preferred punching bag? ;-)


Groups removed

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> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:59:41 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>>writes:
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT), dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>>>>> publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>>>>> the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>>>
>>>>I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>>>>against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>>>>concerning remarks I never made.
>>>>
>>>>Debwhorah
>>>


--
Rev. Richard Skull about Eli Grabmen: Any sex act involving YOU is
bestiality.

Panta Rhei

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Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:

<snip this degenerate, psychopathic, racist pig's known useless garbage
unread>

I simply ENJOY too much kicking you ridiculous, psychopathic fool with a
minimum of effort around the Usenet, EVERY DAY! LOL!

Thanks for loyally coming back to my fists time and again, my poor, battered
puching bag! LMAO!

And thanks for all the entertainment you keep providing for free, you poor,
miserable clown! LMAO!

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> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:15:46 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>>writes:
>>
>>
>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:57:36 GMT, fla...@verizon.net wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 11-Jul-2008, dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> > Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>>>>> > publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>>>>> > the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>>>>> against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>>>>> concerning remarks I never made.
>>>>
>>>>I demand he stop lying about Judaism in general.
>>>
>>> I demand you stop pretending to be a jew in general.
>>>
>>>>I demand he stop lying about you making any sort
>>>>of cannibalistic remarks.
>>>
>>> Except that it's too late. Google has the record.
>>>
>>>>Or, if that's too difficult, I demand he stop stealing
>>>>air from deserving winos.
>>>>
>>>>Susan
>>>

--

Eli Grubman

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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:57:32 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
wrote:

>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>writes:

Poor Grik mongoloid Pants! He can't even configure his bot to change
the subject line! LOL

<EBVBVGVBGVG>

Eli

Eli Grubman

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Jul 12, 2008, 10:22:17 AM7/12/08
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 13:57:32 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
wrote:

>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>writes:

Poor Grik mongoloid Pants! He can't even configure his bot to change
the subject line! LOL

<EBVBVGVBGVG>

Eli

>
>

Panta Rhei

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Jul 12, 2008, 12:29:39 PM7/12/08
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Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:

<snip this degenerate, psychopathic, racist pig's known useless garbage
unread>

Boy, is this fun! I just can't get enough of kicking you ridiculous,
psychopathic fool with ease around the Usenet, EVERY DAY! LOL!


EVERY DAY now! As long as you are around and as long as you keep returning,
my poor bleeding punching bag! LMAO!

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>

> Eli
>
>>
>>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:59:41 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>>>>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>>>>writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT), dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>>>>>>> publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>>>>>>> the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>>>>>>against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>>>>>>concerning remarks I never made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Debwhorah
>>>>>

Panta Rhei

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Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:

<snip this degenerate, psychopathic, racist pig's known useless garbage
unread>

Boy, is this fun! I just can't get enough of kicking you ridiculous,
psychopathic fool with ease around the Usenet, EVERY DAY!
Hahahahaaaa....!!!

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>
>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 01:15:46 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>>>>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>>>>writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 19:57:36 GMT, fla...@verizon.net wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On 11-Jul-2008, dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>>>>>>> > publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>>>>>>> > the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>>>>>>> against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>>>>>>> concerning remarks I never made.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I demand he stop lying about Judaism in general.
>>>>>
>>>>> I demand you stop pretending to be a jew in general.
>>>>>
>>>>>>I demand he stop lying about you making any sort
>>>>>>of cannibalistic remarks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Except that it's too late. Google has the record.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Or, if that's too difficult, I demand he stop stealing
>>>>>>air from deserving winos.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Susan
>>>>>

Eli Grubman

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Jul 12, 2008, 1:47:59 PM7/12/08
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:29:39 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
wrote:

>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>writes:

<snip this illterate Grik's pidgin English>

You should have paid attention during English classes at school,
Pants, instead of daydreaming about greeking other Griks! LOL
<EBVBEVBG>

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Eli Grubman

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Jul 12, 2008, 1:48:07 PM7/12/08
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On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 18:29:39 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
wrote:

>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>writes:

<snip this illterate Grik's pidgin English>

You should have paid attention during English classes at school,
Pants, instead of daydreaming about greeking other Griks! LOL
<EBVBEVBG>

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torresD

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Jul 12, 2008, 2:01:06 PM7/12/08
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"Al Smith" <inv...@address.com> wrote in message
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>> torresD wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>> > It's really interesting, how people like Moshe Dayan, David
>>> > Ben-Gurion,
>>> > Menachem Begin,
>>> > had no problem with laying out, admitting exactly what it is they were
>>> > doing,
>>> > stealing the land from the Palestinians by any means necessary.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > However, the current crop screams bloody murder and tries to say it
>>> > isn't
>>> > true,
>>> > when there is so much evidence to the contrary.
>>> >
>>> > IMO, they have the .creditiabilty of Nazi Holocaust deniers, which is
>>> > none.

>>
>> The current Zionists accuse critics of Israel of anti-semitism, even
>> Nazism, for saying about their own era what their predecessors
>> admitted openly. Yet the brutally aggressive policy hasn't changed a
>> bit. Nor has the openly thieving ideology.
>>
>> What's changed is the environment in which they operate. Political
>> ideologies are discredited. International law is more humanized and
>> gradually they have forfeited the sympathy given so freely after the
>> Holocaust. The latter happened because many powerful Jews abused the
>> memory of the victims of the Holocaust by manipulating it for
>> political and financial gain.
>>
>> An then finally there's what they've been doing to the United States,
>> the only nation world-wide which remained loyal to them despite their
>> criminal mistreatment of the Palestinian people.
>
>
> The American people haven't remained loyal to Israel -- they've been
> brainwashed and are being controlled by Israel and its agents within the
> United States, through the use of the mass news and entertainment media.
> Their politicians have been bought off by Israel and its Zionist backers.
> There is nothing to be loyal to --
> Israel is a criminal regime.
>
> -Al-

Yes, that is true, it's not loyalty, rather bribery and manipulation.

The American Public, the ordinary citizen is waking up to this.

The leaders haven't caught up yet.

There is a difference now though, probably because of the internet,
but Israel isn't thought of in the same way anymore.

torresD

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<dsha...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> torresD wrote:
> > It's really interesting, how people like Moshe Dayan, David
> > Ben-Gurion, Menachem Begin, had no problem with laying
> > out, admitting exactly what it is they were doing, stealing
> >the land from the Palestinians by any means necessary.

Liar. You've parroted the Fakestinian lies about this for years, and
it's sad to see that you're still parroting them.

You're pathetic, Debbie.
There is so much clear cut, undisputable evidence
to the contrary, much of it laid out, by Israel's founders,
that it is silly to deny it.

Jewish people did to the Palestinians what the Nazis did to them.

Panta Rhei

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Jul 12, 2008, 2:46:02 PM7/12/08
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Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
writes:

<snip this degenerate, psychopathic, racist pig's known useless garbage
unread>

Everybody just watch the poor psycho desperately clinging to his pathetic
online existence!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAA....!!!!

The miserable psycho still can't believe all this here is happening to him


after his SIX YEARS of insane trolling in all these groups! ROTFLOL


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>
> Eli
>
>>>
>>> Eli
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 12 Jul 2008 00:59:41 +0200, Panta Rhei <kr...@test.invalid>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid anti-Semite, aka trolling Jewdas, aka dumb
>>>>>>Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, etc., etc. in Jewish newsgroups,
>>>>>>writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 11 Jul 2008 08:51:32 -0700 (PDT), dsh...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On Jul 10, 3:27 pm, HHW <coaster132...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Re-publishing "Deborah's" libel is the legal equivalent of her
>>>>>>>>> publishing it originally. I demand that you retract it in accord with
>>>>>>>>> the statues of Maryland covering defamation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I demand you retract your slur that I made a racist hate remark
>>>>>>>>against Al Sharpton. I also demand that you retract your fake "quotes"
>>>>>>>>concerning remarks I never made.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Debwhorah
>>>>>>>

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