"Same is true of Jews. Yes, the Jewish Holocaust was one of the most
horrendous acts of evil in history. But, it happened between
1942-1945. That's 3 yrs out of an entire century. To somehow use those
3 yrs to color every aspect of Jewish history throughout the 20th
century--or all of Jewish history--is ridiculous. Most of the 20th
century was a great and awesome time for the Jews who gained
tremendous power, wealth, privilege, influence, and control. Yuri
Slezkine isn't far wrong when he says the 20th century was really the
Jewish century. Jews were essentially the victors, not the victims of
the 20th century. Yes, they were great victims during the horrible yrs
of WWII, but to somehow argue that the Holocaust is the defining
moment for the Jews--and even the whole world--is pure Judeocentrism.
And, such view came to take hold ONLY because it was promoted by
various nations and groups for their own purposes. Just as the death
of Jesus came to be more important than the death of any man, the
killing of Jews became more meaningful because of its significance to
the people who promoted them. There were and still are countless
victims of every kind at every moment through all of history. Most are
forgotten, and the few who are remembered are remembered ONLY because
the powers-that-be choose to remember them. History isn't so much
about what happened or even about remembering what happened. It's
really about who gets to remember and remind us of what happened. In
this sense, history is agitating in the present for a selective past.
If Buchanan agitates for the Germanic worldview, most Jews agitate for
a Judeocentric worldview."
In any case, it seems to me that those like you who are obsessed about Jews
have the most "Judaeocentric" world view by far...
--
المتبرجة خير
من الإرهابي
المنتحر
Murderers are not martyrs! http://symbolictruth.fateback.com/
::applause::
Well said.
> First off, most national/regional/ethnic groups view history to some degree
> from the perspective of how their own group has been affected.
I have no difference with you on that whatever.
I don't see
> why Jews have any less right to do this than any other group.
Of course not. Nor do I.
Furthermore,
> saying that the Holocaust was "just three years out of the 20th century" is
> somewhat smarmily disingenuous, since the worldwide Jewish population was
> reduced by about one-third during that period.
That's true, but were I you I would have also pointed out the
persistent pogroms in Russia and Poland in the early 20th Century
If there were to be three
> years during the 21st century when the population of the U.S. would decline
> from 300 million to 200 million, then you could bet that those three years
> would receive a quite a bit of attention in the history of the United States!
I haven't the slightest doubt of that and again were I making your
argument I would point out the significance of the Holocaust in the
context of 2,000 years of having difficulties with Christians in
Europe.
>
> In any case, it seems to me that those like you who are obsessed about Jews
> have the most "Judaeocentric" world view by far...
You've written a good post. What you've left out is the unprecedented
scope of the memorialization project and the political uses to which
it is being put. Perhaps we should save that for another post if
you're so inclined.
I thought so too, generally. If he is interested in dealing with the
questions I raise feel free to join in.
Yasher koyach! Don't be a stranger, Anon.
Deborah
Such a yiddish already!
>Don't be a stranger, Anon.
>
>Debwhorah
Don't be a jew cunt, Debwhorah!
Eli
> First off, most national/regional/ethnic groups view history to some
> degree
> from the perspective of how their own group has been affected. I don't
> see
> why Jews have any less right to do this than any other group.
That's because you're not a sick loser who has to turn his self-
loathing outward onto an innocent target to avoid dealing w/it.
> Furthermore,
> saying that the Holocaust was "just three years out of the 20th century"
> is
> somewhat smarmily disingenuous, since the worldwide Jewish population was
> reduced by about one-third during that period. If there were to be three
> years during the 21st century when the population of the U.S. would
> decline
> from 300 million to 200 million, then you could bet that those three years
> would receive a quite a bit of attention in the history of the United
> States!
>
Shshshsh - logic hurts what passes for their heads!
> In any case, it seems to me that those like you who are obsessed about
> Jews have the most "Judaeocentric" world view by far...
That's it in a nutshell - & I use the word deliberately...
Susan
>
>On 6-Aug-2008, AnonMoos <anon...@io.com> wrote:
>
>> First off, most national/regional/ethnic groups view history to some
>> degree
>> from the perspective of how their own group has been affected. I don't
>> see
>> why Jews have any less right to do this than any other group.
>
>That's because you're not a sick loser who has to turn his self-
>loathing outward onto an innocent target to avoid dealing w/it.
You don't even belong to these so-called "innocent targets", you thick
Irish cunt.
Eli
You felt addressed again when she mentioned some "sick loser"? ROTFLOL
I guess you got it right for once! LMAO!
--
"Eli, stuck on stupid, as usual."
Such a yiddish already.
Fuck orf, despicable slime.
>Eli Grabmen, the notorious rabid racist anti-Semite, Grik-hater, pervert
>and psychopath, aka dumb Rever'nerd, aka stalking fake Susan, aka Panta Rhei etc., etc. in
>various newsgroups, wrote:
<snip the Grik sod's incoherent babbling>
Kalimera, Pants! Ready to get heavily greeked on various newsgroups
on THE Usenet again today? I sure hope you are, you dirty little Grik
sod! LOL
<EHBVGTERFCVFVGBVGBG>
Eli
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 14:17:58 +0200, “Heinrich”
<Heinr...@mailgate.org> wrote:
>As usual, you left out the part about the IDF eating their
>palestinian
>prey after they kill them. It’s the reason the dead palestinian
>numbers are so low and the missing count is so high.
Nonsense. Pallies haul them away to their top restaurants.
Cider-Braised Palestinian Kid
8 small sage leaves
1 Palestinian Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped
Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame. Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an
hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider. Bring to a boil,
add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2
hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the
vegetables to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.
Serves lots of Pallies.
Deborah
http://tinyurl.com/ddkek (8th post)
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# 25 Franklin Brown Says:
June 12, 2008 at 12:51 am
What nonsense!
The posting clearly states that it’s a Palestinian recipe, NOT
Israeli
or Zionist. And everyone knows that a kid is a baby goat.
Why you people have to twist every single thing into something
sinister is beyond me. You are just a bunch of opportunistic racists,
nothing more, nothing less.
# 54 David Goodman Says:
June 23, 2008 at 9:59 pm
All you have to do is look at the most horrendous sights of inter-
racial or inter-religious disputes, and see that more than 80% of the
cases involve muslim fundamentalists.
OK, there are extremists on every side, we have had our share of
noisy
minorities, however, in most societies, the noisy extremists do not
call the cards. They are a minority, noisy, the role of the doom
profits - everyone has them - marginally. But, where the Palestinians
and Arab countries in general are concerned, this minority is the
leadership, and it is extreme in it’s views, in it’s goals and
aspirations. Terrorism, bombings, killings, anything bloody will do.
Imagine having a neighbor like this, and let me see YOU tell HIM what
he should and shouldn’t do.
P.S. The recipe calls for goat, a kid is a goat. As can bee seen by
the addition of: (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture).
# 55 That's Insane Says:
June 24, 2008 at 12:51 am
David Goodman, do you still claim “kid” means “goat”?:
Cider-Braised Jewish Kid
8 small sage leaves
1 Jewish Kid (can substitute pork, rattlesnake, or vulture)
2 Tbsp. chicken fat
1 medium onion, chopped coarsely
1 carrot, chopped coarsely
1 small turnip, chopped coarsely
2 cups apple cider or apple juice
1 bouquet garni made by tying together
3 sprigs of parsley, 2 sprigs of thyme and 1/2 bay leaf
1/4 cup parsley, chopped
Divide the sage leaves into equal portions and dress the kid.
In a large flameproof casserole, melt the fat over a high flame.
Brown the kid in the melted fat, and then remove and reduce the
flame. Add the onion, carrot and turnip, cover and let simmer for an
hour.
Place the kid on vegetables and pour on the cider. Bring to a boil,
add the bouquet garni, cover and transfer to a medium oven for 2
hours.
Remove the kid from the casserole and set aside to keep warm.
Strain the liquids in the casserole, pressing down on the
vegetables to squeeze out the liquids.
Place the kid on a warmed serving platter, pour over some of the
juices and sprinkle with the parsley.
Serve the remaining juices separately.
Serves lots of Kikes.
# 56 Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
June 24, 2008 at 7:11 am
Clever. Franklin Brown & David Goodman’s arguments that kid means
goat, have been shown to be what they are — a lie.
Scratch a liar find a thief. Both men are ZIONISTS, both SUPPORT
THEFT, since that is what ISRAEL is based on — THEFT.
# 57 Mieko Fujimoto Says:
June 25, 2008 at 7:05 am
I am ashamed to say we eat very many foods in Japan that should be
forbidden. I do not. People in my country do. Eating people is
something we would never consider in Japan. I wonder if they eat
people in Israel? How else would this person write a recipe like
this?
It is not funny, so what is the point? It must be a real cannibal
recipe. Maybe the person is mentally ill though. It is hard to tell.
Zionist are all mentally ill. They treat Palestinians like America
treated Japan. Two nuclear bombs. Genocide.
# 58 NO MORE WARS FOR ISRAEL Says:
June 26, 2008 at 2:15 am
Deborah Sharavi, do you enjoy being a cannibal?
# 59 Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
June 28, 2008 at 6:56 pm
When they wanna see
How evil people could be
They’ll just remember
Deborah Sharavi’s “recipe”
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/
Charles G. Says:
July 5, 2008 at 6:13 pm
Inappropriate.
Dead children are not fodder for zionist, demented humor.
Eric Lindstrom Says:
July 6, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Another way for the author to say she wants all Palestinians dead.
Hate is expressed in many forms.
R.C. Says:
July 7, 2008 at 6:07 am
This butcher’s cur is venom-mouthed…
Tania Says:
July 7, 2008 at 6:35 am
Deborah Sharavi probably stuck pins in her dolls and pulled wings off
butterflies.
Matt G. Says:
July 9, 2008 at 2:43 am
If Zionism were Judaism, anti-Semitism would be a moral imperative.
The zionist, cannibalistic “recipe”, proves it.
Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
July 16, 2008 at 7:19 pm e
Excellent point, Matt G.
This vile, zionist, cannibalistic “recipe”, is proof of your
insightful comment:
If Zionism were Judaism, anti-Semitism would be a moral imperative.
Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
July 16, 2008 at 10:38 pm
Deborah Sharavi Oct 14 2004, 12:02 pm
Michael W Cook wrote:
> You’re fucking sick, Deborah and you disgust me.
Aw shucks. And I never even got around to Palestinian Dessert Trifle.
Deborah
http://tinyurl.com/ddkek 22nd post
Grass Is Always Greener Over The Septic Field Says:
July 17, 2008 at 4:35 am
Deborah Sharavi Oct 15 2004, 1:48 pm
“torresD” wrote:
>To make light of a Palestinian child and offer
>a receipe for cooking the Palestinan child and
>in addition offer a dessert recipe using the meat,
>flesh of Palestinian children is despicable.
Typical hypocrisy from Dianne Torres. If the recipe had called for a
JEWISH kid, Torres would have been at the board in an instant,
pouding
knife and fork, and singing in happy anticipation:
“Love to eat them Jew kids
Jews is whut I loves to eat
Bite dey little heads off
Nibble on they tiny feet!”
And when her repast was delayed, she would pound harder on the board
with her knife and fork, and bellow (to the tune of Zum Gali Gali);
“FOOD! Waiter, waiter waiter
FOOD! waiter, waiter!
“FOOD! Waiter, waiter waiter
FOOD! waiter, waiter!”
Deborah
http://tinyurl.com/ddkek 41st post.
Eric Roth Says:
July 17, 2008 at 6:40 am
The pathetic attempts by the zionazis posting here to apologise for
this disgusting woman’s filth is obscene.
This has nothing to do with a young goat. It was this sick person’s
hate coming to the fore.
Sharavi is not fit to take her daily quota of oxygen.
Angeles Déesse Says:
July 27, 2008 at 7:50 am
Sick, sick, sick…
Eric Roth, you are correct.
deborah sharavi is an oxygen thief.
Drown Zion Says:
July 30, 2008 at 10:31 pm
Fuck zioniSStSS. Fuck iSSrael.
http://aliyaallzionists.wordpress.com/zionist-cannibalistic-recipe-2/
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Mirelle