inbred israelis give even the ugliest arabs huge boosts of self-esteem.
Doc Martian
cheers!
Doc
AnonMoos
custom of patrilineal first-cousin marriage (bint `amm)??
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sister.... and that inbred lil' runt jacob was product of the union between
esau and rebekah.... as manqued in the hairy arms and hunter's stew
thang.... looks like you assholes are the ones with the terminally bad
alleles.
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offspring. aren't you guys smart.
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>> Hey Indigoonie, please do tell me which people it is who have the
>> custom of patrilineal first-cousin marriage (bint `amm)??
> let's see.... traditionally? abram and sarai were half brother
Whatever -- that's utterly irrelevant to current Jewish marriage
practices, while patrilineal first-cousin "bint-ul-`amm" marriage is VERY
relevant to marriage practices in Saudi Arabia and a few other areas of
the Islamic world:
http://www.arabnews.com/Article.asp?ID=23394
Saudis Forced to Marry Cousins Speak Out
Etedal Al-Bakri, Special to Arab News
The practice of forcing women to marry a cousin and preventing them
from marrying the man of their choice is alive and well in the
Kingdom, according to Sayyidaty, a sister publication of Arab News.
It does not affect only women but men as well, and no doubt
contributes to the unhappiness of both.
This has unfortunate consequences for society because it often leads
to divorce.
"I'm not the only one who has this problem," Nawal, a 29-year-old
graduate, told Sayyidaty. "There are plenty of other women who have
had the same experience. I feel sad when I remember how many men asked
me to marry them and how my father refused them all. He had no reason;
he simply wanted me to marry a cousin. He parroted the famous saying,
Your cousin is better than a stranger. Well, suppose my cousin does
not want to marry me? Suppose I feel no wifely love for him? Suppose
he already has another girl he wants to marry? None of these questions
count for anything with my father, and as a result I'm still unmarried
and waiting. I do not know if any of my cousins will ask to marry me
but for sure my father won't change his mind. I'm trapped by this
tradition as life passes me by."
Sara graduated from university three years ago, when a relative on her
mother's side asked her to marry him.
"He was also a university graduate and I felt he was the person for
me," she explains. "At first, my father did not object and I was
happy. Before the wedding, however, my father asked me to cancel
everything. He said that his brother, my uncle, wanted his son to
marry me and my father couldn't say no to his brother. I tried to
convince my father that I did not want to marry my cousin; my mother
also tried to convince him. I told my father that my cousin did not
want me and that he had not asked for my hand. In the end, the man
from my mother's family who had asked to marry me also tried to
convince my father, but he failed as well. My father still has not
changed his mind. He says I am reserved for my cousin. I have lost the
chance to marry the man I wanted and no doubt, I will lose even more
in the future."
It is not only women who suffer; men also have their own stories.
Muhammad Abdullah is one of them.
"When I told my father I was ready to marry, he said, Marry any of
your cousins; they are preferable to a stranger. I told him that I
had made my choice and I wanted to marry a girl that I had known for a
year. We had talked a lot and we understood each other. My father told
me he would not agree to my marrying that girl and I cannot marry
without his approval because he has to go with me when I ask for her
hand. That is our custom. I am now 32 years old and still single. The
parents of the girl I love refuse to allow me to marry their daughter
unless I have my father's approval. They consider his refusal an
unacceptable insult. My father tells me to marry one of my cousins
first and then I can marry whoever I want to. I wonder why these
traditions control our lives in the 21st century."
Faraj, another young man, said: "I was about to go abroad to study for
my masters degree when my father asked me to become engaged to my 16
year-old cousin."
"I tried to tell him that I was not ready to marry, but he refused to
listen to me and insisted that I marry my cousin. I asked him to give
me a month to think about it and test each others feelings but he
will not agree. He told me that we had been intended for each other
since birth. I promised him that I would marry her when I come home
from the university for vacation. I came back after a year, intending
to marry someone else rather than my cousin. But my father died, which
was a terrible shock. According to tradition, I had to marry my cousin
to keep the promise that I gave to my father before he died. I have no
feelings for her but I married her because of the force of tradition."
The final word comes from Maha, another woman.
"There is the tradition of keeping a girl for her cousin. The problem
is that this tradition often pleases nobody, yet fathers never change
their minds. Sometimes they want to keep the money in the family
instead of sharing it with outsiders, who they suspect are only after
the money. Sometimes they say that the family is socially below us. If
a cousin is younger than me, they will accept him simply because he is
a cousin. In fact, this is exactly what happened to me: I had to marry
my cousin who was two years younger simply because my father and my
cousin's father had agreed to the marriage. I later discovered that my
cousin was in love with another girl and he had promised to marry her.
My cousin does not love me and I feel nothing for him. This is the
price for our tradition of marrying girls to their cousins."
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/05/01/international/middleeast/01GENE.html
New York Times May 1, 2003
"Saudi Arabia Awakes to the Perils of Inbreeding" By SARAH KERSHAW
.... Across the Arab world today an average of 45 percent of married
couples are related, according to Dr. Nadia Sakati, a pediatrician and
senior consultant for the genetics research center at King Faisal
Specialist Hospital in Riyadh.
In some parts of Saudi Arabia, particularly in the south, where Mrs.
Hefthi was raised, the rate of marriage among blood relatives ranges
from 55 to 70 percent, among the highest rates in the world, according
to the Saudi government.
Widespread inbreeding in Saudi Arabia has produced several genetic
disorders, Saudi public health officials said, including the blood
diseases of thalassemia, a potentially fatal hemoglobin deficiency,
and sickle cell anemia. Spinal muscular atrophy and diabetes are also
common, especially in the regions with the longest traditions of
marriage between relatives. Dr. Sakati said she had also found links
between inbreeding and deafness and muteness....
> looks like you
I'm not a Jew, but you are a pathetic Usenet terminal wanker, Indigoonie!