Sinn Féin unveils Europe manifesto
BfB
National government should be given complete control over taxation policy,
Sinn Féin said today.
The party's European election manifesto, which was launched in Dublin today
by its leader Gerry Adams, vowed its MEPs would campaign for the restoration
of economic sovereignty to EU member states.
Sinn Féin also said it would adopt a policy of "critical but constructive
engagement" with the European Union and it accused other parties of adopting
a wholly uncritical attitude to any and all developments in the EU
regardless of their impact on Ireland.
Sinn Féin said it would oppose the entry of Turkey on human rights grounds
because it continued to occupy Cyprus and deny the Kurdish people the right
to self-determination.
Its manifesto also said it was opposed to the creation of a European Union
superstate, even in stages and believed the proposed constitution would take
the EU down the road of a federal state.
Whitewolf
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On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:19:36 -0400, "BfB" <_@-._> wrote:
>Mostly good points, I think.
>
>National government should be given complete control over
taxation policy,
>Sinn Féin said today.
>
>The party's European election manifesto, which was launched
in Dublin today
>by its leader Gerry Adams, vowed its MEPs would campaign
for the restoration
>of economic sovereignty to EU member states.
>
I agree with this policy 110%
>Sinn Féin also said it would adopt a policy of "critical
but constructive
>engagement" with the European Union and it accused other
parties of adopting
>a wholly uncritical attitude to any and all developments in
the EU
>regardless of their impact on Ireland.
>
I agree with this policy 110%
>Sinn Féin said it would oppose the entry of Turkey on human
rights grounds
>because it continued to occupy Cyprus and deny the Kurdish
people the right
>to self-determination.
>
Don't know enough about internal Turkish politics to
comment...
>Its manifesto also said it was opposed to the creation of a
European Union
>superstate, even in stages and believed the proposed
constitution would take
>the EU down the road of a federal state.
>
I agree with this policy 110%
I, for one, am glad to see SF making such bold statements of
policy... Again, the only party in Ireland that IS putting
IRELAND's interest first! Where it should be for all
parties for the sake of the Nation and it's people...
Ray
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OldWiseMan
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de Brún calls for occupation of Iraq to end
Published: 28 May, 2004
Speaking during a canvass in Fermanagh today, Sinn Féin EU candidate Bairbre
de Brún MLA called for an 'immediate end to the occupation of Iraq and for
the UN to oversee a speedy return of sovereignty to the Iraqi people.'
Ms de Brún said:
"Sinn Féin opposed military intervention in Iraq. Last year Gerry Adams
warned Tony Blair and George Bush that the invasion of Iraq was not only
illegal under international law but would end in a prolonged period of
conflict and political instability. And this is what has happened.
"What needs to happen now is for the military occupation of Iraq to end
immediately and for the UN to oversee a speedy transition to democratic rule
of Iraq by Iraqis."
----------------------------------------
More details on SF Policy:
Positive Neutrality in Action Policy Document 2004
http://www.sinnfein.ie/gaelic/news/detail/4934
This (Iraq) invasion was based on concocted evidence of weapons of mass
destruction, and rationalised by a doctrine of pre-emption (and by a
post-hoc doctrine of regime change, contrary to international law). Other
by-products of this appalling episode include the sabotage of perfectly
effective UN weapons inspections and the deliberate sidelining of the UN in
the post-war transition and reconstruction process. All those who failed to
oppose the war -- including the Irish Government who had a seat on the
Security Council during the relevant period -- bear responsibility.
Beacon
"Whitewolf" <r...@eirefirst.com> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:19:36 -0400, "BfB" <_@-._> wrote:
>
> >Mostly good points, I think.
> >
> >National government should be given complete control over
> taxation policy,
> >Sinn Féin said today.
> >
> >The party's European election manifesto, which was launched
> in Dublin today
> >by its leader Gerry Adams, vowed its MEPs would campaign
> for the restoration
> >of economic sovereignty to EU member states.
> >
>
> I agree with this policy 110%
And if SF gets an MEP and he joins the socialist group in the EU Parliament
y9ou will also agree with that? SF will not say which group they will join.
Of course yo may claim SF have cast off the Marxism so wee we see won't we?
>
> >Sinn Féin also said it would adopt a policy of "critical
> but constructive
> >engagement" with the European Union and it accused other
> parties of adopting
> >a wholly uncritical attitude to any and all developments in
> the EU
> >regardless of their impact on Ireland.
> >
>
> I agree with this policy 110%
Would it include restricting immigration and not allowing de facto
citizenship by birth in Ireland alone? To change that one would have to
change the constitution - which SF oppose!
>
> >Sinn Féin said it would oppose the entry of Turkey on human
> rights grounds
> >because it continued to occupy Cyprus and deny the Kurdish
> people the right
> >to self-determination.
So you are in favouur of an independent Kurdistan? A policy Bush is firmly
against. By the way I agree with SF on their opposition to Turkey. Fg FF and
LAb have the same policy. Bush however does not mention Turkish abuse of
human rights by his NATO friend. And SF are avowedly ANTI NATO! How does
this sit with you Ray?
>
>
> Don't know enough about internal Turkish politics to
> comment...
>
> >Its manifesto also said it was opposed to the creation of a
> European Union
> >superstate, even in stages and believed the proposed
> constitution would take
> >the EU down the road of a federal state.
> >
>
> I agree with this policy 110%
So you would like the US to defederalise? Seccession is not allowed by the
US.
>
> I, for one, am glad to see SF making such bold statements of
> policy... Again, the only party in Ireland that IS putting
> IRELAND's interest first!
SF won't even say what party in the EU they are alligned with. Expect
something left of left field. A bit "liberal" for your usual position.
>Where it should be for all
> parties for the sake of the Nation and it's people...
>
Get rid of the illegal IRA Army then which the massive majority do not want!
then demand the Brits withdraw.
BfB
"OldWiseMan" <oldwis...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2i6nkjF...@uni-berlin.de...
> Any comment from Bob or Ray on other SF policies?
>
obviously disagree, but that doesn't change the fact that SF
is the party that will see that the 6 counties are reunited with
Ireland.
BfB
Beacon
"BfB" <_@-._> wrote in message news:lP-dnfC1N-d...@adelphia.com...
And FF don't have that policy?
Or Lab, or the PD's ...
BfB
"Beacon" <Openm...@dejanews.com> wrote in message
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BfB
STEPHEN
place.....KB
Whitewolf
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The USA is working hard to restore *full* soverignthy to Iraq... It's
the Iraqi al-quads supporting terrorists that's holding things up and
it is those who caused this whole mess in the first place...
I don't agree with SF on everything... I don't agree with any
political party on everything it stands for...
>----------------------------------------
> More details on SF Policy:
>
>Positive Neutrality in Action Policy Document 2004
>http://www.sinnfein.ie/gaelic/news/detail/4934
>This (Iraq) invasion was based on concocted evidence of weapons of
mass
>destruction, and rationalised by a doctrine of pre-emption (and by a
>post-hoc doctrine of regime change, contrary to international law).
Other
>by-products of this appalling episode include the sabotage of
perfectly
>effective UN weapons inspections and the deliberate sidelining of the
UN in
>the post-war transition and reconstruction process. All those who
failed to
>oppose the war -- including the Irish Government who had a seat on
the
>Security Council during the relevant period -- bear responsibility.
>
I disagree...
Happy now?
Ray
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On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 21:45:43 +0100, "Beacon" <Openm...@dejanews.com>
wrote:
>
>"Whitewolf" <r...@eirefirst.com> wrote in message
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>> On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 19:19:36 -0400, "BfB" <_@-._> wrote:
>>
>> >Mostly good points, I think.
>> >
>> >National government should be given complete control over
>> taxation policy,
>> >Sinn Féin said today.
>> >
>> >The party's European election manifesto, which was launched
>> in Dublin today
>> >by its leader Gerry Adams, vowed its MEPs would campaign
>> for the restoration
>> >of economic sovereignty to EU member states.
>> >
>>
>> I agree with this policy 110%
>
>And if SF gets an MEP and he joins the socialist group in the EU
Parliament
>y9ou will also agree with that? SF will not say which group they will
join.
>Of course yo may claim SF have cast off the Marxism so wee we see
won't we?
>
I'm support the policy of any party that stands for Nation rights over
EU superstate nonsense...
>>
>> >Sinn Féin also said it would adopt a policy of "critical
>> but constructive
>> >engagement" with the European Union and it accused other
>> parties of adopting
>> >a wholly uncritical attitude to any and all developments in
>> the EU
>> >regardless of their impact on Ireland.
>
>
>> >
>>
>> I agree with this policy 110%
>
>Would it include restricting immigration and not allowing de facto
>citizenship by birth in Ireland alone? To change that one would have
to
>change the constitution - which SF oppose!
>
If by restrict immigration you mean put an end to illegal immigrants
entering Ireland, then that would be a good thing... But legal
immigrants should be encouraged... Citizenship by birth in Ireland
alone regardless of the nationality of the Parents is wrong... If a
family are say on holiday from France and the wife has a child in
Ireland that child should be considered a French subject, and not an
Irish one...
>>
>> >Sinn Féin said it would oppose the entry of Turkey on human
>> rights grounds
>> >because it continued to occupy Cyprus and deny the Kurdish
>> people the right
>> >to self-determination.
>
>So you are in favouur of an independent Kurdistan? A policy Bush is
firmly
>against. By the way I agree with SF on their opposition to Turkey. Fg
FF and
>LAb have the same policy. Bush however does not mention Turkish abuse
of
>human rights by his NATO friend. And SF are avowedly ANTI NATO! How
does
>this sit with you Ray?
>
> >
>>
>> Don't know enough about internal Turkish politics to
>> comment...
>>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Didn't I say I didn't know enouvh to comment on it...
>> >Its manifesto also said it was opposed to the creation of a
>> European Union
>> >superstate, even in stages and believed the proposed
>> constitution would take
>> >the EU down the road of a federal state.
>> >
>>
>> I agree with this policy 110%
>
>
>So you would like the US to defederalise? Seccession is not allowed
by the
>US.
>
The US is made up fo 50 states, depending on Federal government for
major issues such as National Defense... Europe is made of of piles
of independent countries with rich history and diverse culture...
It's a mistake to try and force them all together as if "one size fits
all"...
>>
>> I, for one, am glad to see SF making such bold statements of
>> policy... Again, the only party in Ireland that IS putting
>> IRELAND's interest first!
>
>SF won't even say what party in the EU they are alligned with. Expect
>something left of left field. A bit "liberal" for your usual
position.
>
It's the Nationalist and pro UI aspects of the party that appeal to
me, not it's leftist leaning policies on some subjects...
>
>>Where it should be for all
>> parties for the sake of the Nation and it's people...
>>
>
>Get rid of the illegal IRA Army then which the massive majority do
not want!
>then demand the Brits withdraw.
>
The IRA are not the problem, nor have they been for the past nearly 10
years... It's loyalist terrorism that's holding things up, them and
their anti-Irish Unionist buddies...
Ray
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Beacon
The US did a solo run and young americans are suffering for it now.
I am happy Bush finally had to go to the UN.
The US want another puppet in Iraq just as the French Germans Turks British
wanted in Arabia before.
If a soverign Iraq says "US out" do you agree they should go?
>It's
> the Iraqi al-quads supporting terrorists that's holding things up and
> it is those who caused this whole mess in the first place...
This is nonsence. Al queda had NO NO NO suport from Iraq! NONE! Saddam hated
Al Queda! They were a threat to him. The US invasion promoted Al Queda.
Where is the evidence for your claim that AL Queda were linked to the
invasion of Iraq?
>
> I don't agree with SF on everything... I don't agree with any
> political party on everything it stands for...
YOu claim to support SF because of their belief in Irish unity.
But you do not claim to support other parties which also support Itrish
unity.
Parties which have similar economic policies to Bush which YOU espouse but
which SF detest!
>
> >----------------------------------------
> > More details on SF Policy:
> >
> >Positive Neutrality in Action Policy Document 2004
> >http://www.sinnfein.ie/gaelic/news/detail/4934
> >This (Iraq) invasion was based on concocted evidence of weapons of
> mass
> >destruction, and rationalised by a doctrine of pre-emption (and by a
> >post-hoc doctrine of regime change, contrary to international law).
> Other
> >by-products of this appalling episode include the sabotage of
> perfectly
> >effective UN weapons inspections and the deliberate sidelining of the
> UN in
> >the post-war transition and reconstruction process. All those who
> failed to
> >oppose the war -- including the Irish Government who had a seat on
> the
> >Security Council during the relevant period -- bear responsibility.
> >
>
> I disagree...
>
> Happy now?
I am happy that you claim NOT to support SF foreigh policy. What about ANY
SF policy other than Irish REpublicanism? Economic? Health? Education?
Welfare? Labour? Take your pick. None are similar to Bush.
Beacon
[snip]
> >
> >And if SF gets an MEP and he joins the socialist group in the EU
> Parliament
> >y9ou will also agree with that? SF will not say which group they will
> join.
> >Of course yo may claim SF have cast off the Marxism so wee we see
> won't we?
> >
>
>
> I'm support the policy of any party that stands for Nation rights over
> EU superstate nonsense...
So you support FF FG etc.?
>
> >>
> >> >Sinn Féin also said it would adopt a policy of "critical
> >> but constructive
> >> >engagement" with the European Union and it accused other
> >> parties of adopting
> >> >a wholly uncritical attitude to any and all developments in
> >> the EU
> >> >regardless of their impact on Ireland.
> >
> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> I agree with this policy 110%
> >
> >Would it include restricting immigration and not allowing de facto
> >citizenship by birth in Ireland alone? To change that one would have
> to
> >change the constitution - which SF oppose!
> >
>
> If by restrict immigration you mean put an end to illegal immigrants
> entering Ireland, then that would be a good thing... But legal
> immigrants should be encouraged... Citizenship by birth in Ireland
> alone regardless of the nationality of the Parents is wrong...
SF do NOT agree with you on this!
> If a
> family are say on holiday from France and the wife has a child in
> Ireland that child should be considered a French subject, and not an
> Irish one...
Is that a question?
>
>
> >>
> >> >Sinn Féin said it would oppose the entry of Turkey on human
> >> rights grounds
> >> >because it continued to occupy Cyprus and deny the Kurdish
> >> people the right
> >> >to self-determination.
> >
> >So you are in favouur of an independent Kurdistan? A policy Bush is
> firmly
> >against. By the way I agree with SF on their opposition to Turkey. Fg
> FF and
> >LAb have the same policy. Bush however does not mention Turkish abuse
> of
> >human rights by his NATO friend. And SF are avowedly ANTI NATO! How
> does
> >this sit with you Ray?
> >
> > >
> >>
> >> Don't know enough about internal Turkish politics to
> >> comment...
> >>
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Didn't I say I didn't know enouvh to comment on it...
Then why mention Turkey entering the EU and their policy on it in the first
place?
>
> >> >Its manifesto also said it was opposed to the creation of a
> >> European Union
> >> >superstate, even in stages and believed the proposed
> >> constitution would take
> >> >the EU down the road of a federal state.
> >> >
> >>
> >> I agree with this policy 110%
> >
> >
> >So you would like the US to defederalise? Seccession is not allowed
> by the
> >US.
> >
>
> The US is made up fo 50 states, depending on Federal government for
> major issues such as National Defense... Europe is made of of piles
> of independent countries with rich history and diverse culture...
No it isnt! It was 15 States. Ten more just came in with two more in line.
Half as many as the US!
> It's a mistake to try and force them all together as if "one size fits
> all"...
Tell that to the US Federal government then! The EU is not federalised! The
US IS!
>
>
> >>
> >> I, for one, am glad to see SF making such bold statements of
> >> policy... Again, the only party in Ireland that IS putting
> >> IRELAND's interest first!
> >
> >SF won't even say what party in the EU they are alligned with. Expect
> >something left of left field. A bit "liberal" for your usual
> position.
> >
>
> It's the Nationalist and pro UI aspects of the party that appeal to
> me, not it's leftist leaning policies on some subjects...
But OTHER parties have THE SAME nationalist aspects WITHOUT the leftie
leanings. Whay don't they appeal to you?
>
> >
> >>Where it should be for all
> >> parties for the sake of the Nation and it's people...
> >>
> >
> >Get rid of the illegal IRA Army then which the massive majority do
> not want!
> >then demand the Brits withdraw.
> >
>
> The IRA are not the problem, nor have they been for the past nearly 10
> years...
I beg to differ. They are part of the problem.
>It's loyalist terrorism that's holding things up, them and
> their anti-Irish Unionist buddies...
Indeed they are another part. But you can NOT complain about one part and
adopt double standards with respect to the other side. Can you?
Howard Beale
>
>
> If by restrict immigration you mean put an end to illegal immigrants
> entering Ireland, then that would be a good thing... But legal
> immigrants should be encouraged... Citizenship by birth in Ireland
> alone regardless of the nationality of the Parents is wrong... If a
> family are say on holiday from France and the wife has a child in
> Ireland that child should be considered a French subject, and not an
> Irish one...
What a cruel fate for an innocent child...
John P. Mullen
If born in NI, he could become a UK subject, but if born in the RoI, he
would be an Irish citizen and by way of his parents, he would be a
French citizen.
John Mullen
Whitewolf
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Nothing cruel about it...
Ray
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