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Vernon Pugh

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May 9, 2013, 10:42:30 AM5/9/13
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If anyone sane is reading this, can you please post something
interesting or related to Irish culture.
If you find he vast majority of recent posts to be a bit weird, you
can flag them as spam or offensive in google groups. I have seen this
done on other newsgroups and he crazy stuff evaporates.

Vern

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May 10, 2013, 3:36:35 PM5/10/13
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My old mate was born in Donegal in an Irish speaking area. He's 75 now
and can't speak any Irish. His Mother brought him and his Sister to
these parts when they were very young, and in order to avoid any
problems with religion she sent them both to the local Mormon church,
where my friend still goes. Lately he has expressed an interest in
speaking some Irish. He remembers a week every summer when he would
visit Granny and everyone spoke Irish. I think his reason for learning
some Irish is because almost everyone around here speaks Urdu or Hindi
and English. I think he wants the Asians to feel as excluded as he
does when they 'go natural'. Lots of Indians and Pakistanis in our
cricket club.
I've been his guinea pig, although he's testing out his Irish on me, I
don't speak Irish (I wouldn't starve but I couldn't hold a
conversation) but I'm learning by helping. It's pretty cool, probably
nothing like Irish, like we have invented a whole new language, based
on ropey grammar and mispronounciations.

max.it (the orange cage)

Vernon Pugh

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May 10, 2013, 5:22:59 PM5/10/13
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On Friday, May 10, 2013 8:36:35 PM UTC+1, unk...@googlegroups.com wrote:
> On Thu, 9 May 2013 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT), Vernon Pugh <dazzh...@hotmail.com> wrote: >If anyone sane is reading this, can you please post something >interesting or related to Irish culture. >If you find he vast majority of recent posts to be a bit weird, you >can flag them as spam or offensive in google groups. I have seen this >done on other newsgroups and he crazy stuff evaporates. > >Vern My old mate was born in Donegal in an Irish speaking area. He's 75 now and can't speak any Irish. His Mother brought him and his Sister to these parts when they were very young, and in order to avoid any problems with religion she sent them both to the local Mormon church, where my friend still goes. Lately he has expressed an interest in speaking some Irish. He remembers a week every summer when he would visit Granny and everyone spoke Irish. I think his reason for learning some Irish is because almost everyone around here speaks Urdu or Hindi and English. I think he wants the Asians to feel as excluded as he does when they 'go natural'. Lots of Indians and Pakistanis in our cricket club. I've been his guinea pig, although he's testing out his Irish on me, I don't speak Irish (I wouldn't starve but I couldn't hold a conversation) but I'm learning by helping. It's pretty cool, probably nothing like Irish, like we have invented a whole new language, based on ropey grammar and mispronounciations. max.it (the orange cage)

That is insane; it does not fit into any of the conveniant stereotypes of Irish, N.Irish, UKish, or any other group that I know of. Maith an fear!

Des

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May 10, 2013, 6:51:46 PM5/10/13
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On Fri, 10 May 2013 14:22:59 -0700 (PDT), Vernon Pugh
<dazzh...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Friday, May 10, 2013 8:36:35 PM UTC+1, unk...@googlegroups.com wrote:
>> On Thu, 9 May 2013 07:42:30 -0700 (PDT), Vernon Pugh <dazzhiggins@hotmail=
>.com> wrote: >If anyone sane is reading this, can you please post something=
> >interesting or related to Irish culture. >If you find he vast majority of=
> recent posts to be a bit weird, you >can flag them as spam or offensive in=
> google groups. I have seen this >done on other newsgroups and he crazy stu=
>ff evaporates. > >Vern My old mate was born in Donegal in an Irish speaking=
> area. He's 75 now and can't speak any Irish. His Mother brought him and hi=
>s Sister to these parts when they were very young, and in order to avoid an=
>y problems with religion she sent them both to the local Mormon church, whe=
>re my friend still goes. Lately he has expressed an interest in speaking so=
>me Irish. He remembers a week every summer when he would visit Granny and e=
>veryone spoke Irish. I think his reason for learning some Irish is because =
>almost everyone around here speaks Urdu or Hindi and English. I think he wa=
>nts the Asians to feel as excluded as he does when they 'go natural'. Lots =
>of Indians and Pakistanis in our cricket club. I've been his guinea pig, al=
>though he's testing out his Irish on me, I don't speak Irish (I wouldn't st=
>arve but I couldn't hold a conversation) but I'm learning by helping. It's =
>pretty cool, probably nothing like Irish, like we have invented a whole new=
> language, based on ropey grammar and mispronounciations. max.it (the orang=
>e cage)
>
>That is insane; it does not fit into any of the conveniant stereotypes of I=
>rish, N.Irish, UKish, or any other group that I know of. Maith an fear!
>
>Des

It's not tg4, or run na ruin or whatever you call it, but fuck it
would be a laff, if someone was filming us covert like.
Thing is startling, we are speaking a pidgen version of our national
language in our own country. While we are preparing cricket pitches,
an mower is bust aris fok.

max.it (the orange cage)

K E Dennis

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May 12, 2013, 7:45:33 PM5/12/13
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Well, it may not be interesting to many, but it's Irish...


~~~~~
Some Spring Moons, North Circular Road
Frank Ormsby


First the embarrassing moon,
so like nothing on earth
I bend my head at midnight,
closing the gates
on our threadbare planet.

Then the moon that seems to command
definitive utterance,
a clarifying take
so pure and simple no-one can understand
it was not obvious.

Next the dizzying moon,
and the moon that has no time for us
but communes
with auto-banks and late-night taxis.
The unbeliever’s moon,

Shadowing the locked church,
the moon returned
off Cavehill tennis courts—
particular moon
becoming the universal.

Also the tracker moon,
and the moon that is keeping an eye,
and the absolute moon
that deems, on its night, unthinkable
a moonless sky.

But most the unblinking, ancient moon
of spring that makes light of winter
and hangs now in our windows
spring-restored—
the moon in bloom, precarious and assured.


~~~~~
Some Spring Moons, North Circular Road
Frank Ormsby
New Hibernia Review / Iris Éireannach Nua 7:1(Spring/ Earrach 2003), 24-29
~~~~~

respectfully submitted,


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K E Dennis

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May 13, 2013, 8:13:21 PM5/13/13
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On 5/9/2013 10:42 AM, Vernon Pugh wrote:
> If anyone sane is reading this, can you please post something
> interesting or related to Irish culture.

[schnips]

So this *has* to be interesting, and I'm posting it for them as don't habitually read The Irish
Times & may not have stumbled across this story & video:

Video: Map shows change in 17th C landownership
The Irish Times
Mon, May 13, 2013, 16:00

<QUOTE>
A 300-year-old map detailing the gradual transfer of landownership from Catholics to Protestants
went online today. The Down Survey of Ireland, which has been uploaded by the history department in
Trinity College, was undertaken by the Cromwellian regime between 1656 and 1658.

The survey introduced Ireland to methods of modern mapping and created the first recognisable maps
of the country. The survey was the first ever detailed mapping project on a national level and
measured all estates that were forfeited by Catholic landowners.
</QUOTE>

Read more at:
http://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/video-map-shows-change-in-17th-c-landownership-1.1391930:


Video at: http://bcove.me/o3nxtj1z


Don't miss the TCD website for the Down Survey, which is lovely. The home page is at
http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/, but if you really want to cut to the chase & see the county, barony &
parish maps in all their zoomable glory, this is where: http://downsurvey.tcd.ie/down-survey-maps.php


respectfully [& geographically] submitted,
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