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Seeker

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May 14, 2001, 4:54:14 PM5/14/01
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What does segosha mean as in "me oul segosha" ?
I know what it implies but is it Gaelic or Dublin slang?

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Brendan O'Linn

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May 14, 2001, 8:31:13 PM5/14/01
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"Seeker" <n...@themo.com> wrote:
>What does segosha mean as in "me oul segosha" ?
>I know what it implies but is it Gaelic or Dublin slang?


It’s a term of endearment. It’s origins are obscure though.

Growing up, I always thought segocia/sagoshas were flowers – a variety of
geraniums or something, and I could swear my mother had a pot of segoshas
on the front window. This is just a muddled memory though and I don’t believe
there to be such a species. Still the phrase, “me oul segosha” and “me oul
flower” and “me oul china” were all interchangeable.

Bernard Share’s “Slanguage – a dictionary of Irish slang” suggests that it
may derive from the Irish “seo dhuitse” – “this is for you.” This is not
generally accepted either. My old prof Terry Dolan relates the following
story in his “Dictionary of Hiberno English”:

“One story has it that members of a club called ‘The Oul Segotias’ never
tipped less than half a sovereign and that when less well-heeled passengers
tipped tuppence, the JARVEY (jaunting car-driver) would say with that delicate
irony that typified the breed: ‘T’ank you, me oul segotia”.

Dolan also points out that it could also come from the French, “sacoche”
– wallet, money-bag, saddlebag.

It’s also seen in various different spellings. In Finnegan’s Wake, Joyce
writes”

“Ah but she was the queer old skeowsha anyhow, Anna Livia, trinkettoes!”

Brendan O’Linn

westprog++

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May 16, 2001, 11:47:35 AM5/16/01
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Gearóid Mac Cuinneagáin <Ger@r.d> wrote:
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>>So why is the Taoiseach throwing parties for Cardinals who rudely ignore
>>the co-host?

>Because he is, in true Irish tradition, a hospitable man.
>Unfortunately, he is plagued by rude guests, and even by rude
>non-attendees.

Man's a bleeding saint.

J/

SOTW: "Something's Gone Wrong Again" - Buzzcocks

"Patriotism which is a virtue elsewhere cannot be a sin in Ireland"


Si

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May 16, 2001, 11:46:47 AM5/16/01
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:I'd rather spend eternity with him than with O'Connell
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Fuck me. hobsons choice.
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