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Re: Why do Jews "deserve" a homeland?

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E Rhinehart

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Dec 31, 2023, 3:20:21 AM12/31/23
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On 30 Dec 2023, Blue Lives Matter
<NoIronInMyJunk_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA> posted some
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> On 12/27/2023 10:12 AM, Charles Carpenter wrote:
>> What makes Jews more "deserving" of a homeland than other peoples who
>> don't have a homeland? Kurds, Rohingya, Palestinians, Roma, Hmong,
>> Uyghur — all of these are major ethnic nations with no homeland.
>> What makes them any less deserving of a sovereign state than Jews?
>>
>> Who (or what) is a Jew?
>>
>>    One of the first decisions that had to be made in conducting
>> this study and    analyzing its results was to answer the
>> question, “Who is a Jew?” This is an    ancient question with
>> no single, timeless answer. On the one hand, being    Jewish is a
>> matter of religion – the traditional, matrilineal definition of
>>    Jewish identity is founded on halakha (Jewish religious law).
>> On the other    hand, being Jewish also may be a matter of
>> ancestry, ethnicity and cultural    background. Jews (and
>> non-Jews) may disagree on where to draw the line. Is an    adult
>> who has Jewish parents but who considers herself an atheist   
>> nevertheless Jewish, by virtue of her lineage? What about someone
>> who has    Jewish parents and has converted to Christianity? Or
>> someone who has no known    Jewish ancestry but is married to a
>> Jew and has come to think of himself as    Jewish, though he has
>> not formally converted to Judaism?
>>
>>   
>> https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2013/10/01/sidebar-who-is-a-jew/
>>
>>
>> Clearly, if Jewishness is determined by religion, then that cannot
>> entitle Jews to a homeland. There is no clamoring for a Presbyterian
>> or Methodist or Zoroastrian (or Wicca) homeland.
>>
>> So, it has to be "a matter of ancestry, ethnicity and cultural
>> background." But *all* of those apply to all the stateless
>> ethnic/national groups I mentioned above, plus many others. Again,
>> then, why are Jews deserving of a homeland, but those groups are not?
>> In particular, why do Jews not see Palestinians as a distinct people
>> deserving of a homeland? And why is it official U.S. policy to see
>> Jews as deserving of a homeland, and expend American blood and
>> treasure in countering threats to it, but not any of those other
>> stateless peoples, in particular Palestinians?
>
> And Hartung

said nothing because it's just Rudy the dress-wearing-midget trying to
stir things up again.

Governor Swill

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On Sun, 31 Dec 2023 08:20:20 -0000 (UTC), E Rhinehart <er...@jandj.com> wrote:

>On 30 Dec 2023, Blue Lives Matter
><NoIronInMyJunk_WhiteSupremacist@Systemic_Treason.KMA> posted some
>news:qI8kN.120792$7sbb....@fx16.iad:
>
>> On 12/27/2023 10:12 AM, Charles Carpenter wrote:
>>> What makes Jews more "deserving" of a homeland than other peoples who
>>> don't have a homeland? Kurds, Rohingya, Palestinians, Roma, Hmong,
>>> Uyghur — all of these are major ethnic nations with no homeland.
>>> What makes them any less deserving of a sovereign state than Jews?
>>>
>>> Who (or what) is a Jew?
>>>
>>>    One of the first decisions that had to be made in conducting
>>> this study and    analyzing its results was to answer the
>>> question, “Who is a Jew?�€? This is an    ancient question with
Rudy doesn't wear dresses. He shortens t-shirts.

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