Nietzsche's Gaelic (was Re: Alle Männer)
hacedeca
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> Kannst du nichtmal Gallien von Irland unterscheiden?
> Ein Fionnghall
"Gaelic, at any rate, offers us a precisely similar case-fin (for example in
the name Fin-Gal), the distinguishing word for nobility, finally for the
good, noble, pure, originally meant the blond-headed, in contradistinction
to the dark, black-haired aboriginal inhabitants." Friedrich Nietzsche - On
the Genealogy of Morals
I brought this in a discussion and my opponent, who speaks Irish, is giving
Nietzsche and me names.
So, was Nietzsche right, talking about the prechristian celtic and "fin-"
for noble, nobility?
hacedeca
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> So, was Nietzsche right, talking about the prechristian celtic and "fin-"
> for noble, nobility?
Sorry! "fin-" for noble and (earlier) blonde!
hacedeca
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> Finn in Old Irish means blonde, fair, clear. It does not mean noble.
How old is Old Irish? Was it not spoken in the early middle ages? The Irish
were christians already back then (not to speak about the legends that their
kings were descendants of Mary Magdalene's and Jesus' child). Nietzsche
would have something funny to say about that.
The problem here is: Nietzsche is talking about Gaelic and means for sure a
language that was spoken before Christ or at least before the Celts became
christians.
> Nietzsche was talking through his arse, at least as far as Irish goes.
>
I do not want to irritate you, but he was already at the age of 24 a
Professor of Classical Philology - an expert on old languages. And we are
not talking about Irish here but Gaelic.
soga1893
> Scríobh "hacedeca" <haced...@zedat.fu-berlin.de>:
>
> >"Féachadóir" <Féach@d.óir> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> >news:ce9re3l2s0i90msj0...@4ax.com...
> >> Finn in Old Irish means blonde, fair, clear. It does not mean noble.
>
> >How old is Old Irish?
>
When your beloved Christ came here. WE have been here for many
thousands of years.
Some earlier
> fragments in archaic Irish also survive, mostly in ogham carvings.
>
> >Was it not spoken in the early middle ages? The Irish
> >were christians already back then (not to speak about the legends that their
> >kings were descendants of Mary Magdalene's and Jesus' child). Nietzsche
> >would have something funny to say about that.
>
> He can say what he likes about it, but he's talking through his arse
> if he thinks finn ever meant noble.
>
> >The problem here is:is talking about Gaelic and means for sure a
> >language that was spoken before Christ or at least before the Celts became
> >christians.
>
> He's still talking through his arse. Finn didn't mean noble.
>
> >> Nietzsche was talking through his arse, at least as far as Irish goes.
>
> >I do not want to irritate you, but he was already at the age of 24 a
> >Professor of Classical Philology - an expert on old languages. And we are
> >not talking about Irish here but Gaelic.
>
> Irish = Gaelic.
> I checked the DIL before posting,
Well you would. You coward.
You know fuck all about it and you know it. Run back to the library.
When I came to Ireland I asked the philosophy students in UCC about
Nietzsche .
They knew all about him and had all had the same opinion????
When I asked more; none of them had read any of his books: That is for
the record.
Nietzsche is, by far, the greatest.
Fuck your sig. You don't have the courage.
fl...@btinternet.com
"hacedeca" <hace...@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote in message
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this part of English history has been heavily suppressed the 19th, century
left England with a sizeable German population, the members of whom remained
loyal to the UK in World Wars 1 and 2. The English, who in the Midlands and
South boast of their Saxon German origins took up the habit of looting
German shops, but this is really great THE ENGLISH - GOD BLESS THEM - KILLED
DASHUNDT DOGS IN THE STREET. I jump for joy when I read this. Coming as I do
from Northern England, which is not Saxon and therefore the people are dirty
and reckless, dogs wander the streets on Northern English cities among the
accumulated litter, empty beer cans, used hyperdermic needles, and so on. I
AM SO GLAD THAT THE GERMAN-SAXON SOUTHERN ENGLISH HAD, EVEN IF FOR ONE SHORT
TIME, THE SAME ATTITUDE TO DOGS THAT THE NON-GERMAN NORTHERN ENGLISH HAVE,
VIZ. DOGS ARE SHIT!
soga1893
> "hacedeca" <haced...@zedat.fu-berlin.de> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:fck4im$rfm$02$1...@news.t-online.com...
>
> > So, was Nietzsche right, talking about the prechristian celtic and "fin-"
> > for noble, nobility?
>
> Sorry! "fin-" for noble and (earlier) blonde!
I am very sorry. You have touched a raw nerve in me and I am sorry for
what I am going to say. No personal offence intended:
You have no fucking idea what fin means:
It was invented by a jewish/ychristian cult way back when they invaded
the British Isles. We did not use writing. I'm sure that Féachadóir
will show his stamp collection shortly and it will fit into the small
holes of your collective ontology.
fl...@btinternet.com
"soga1893" <don...@utvinternet.com> wrote in message
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> On Sep 16, 4:44 pm, "hacedeca" <haced...@zedat.fu-berlin.de> wrote:
>> "Lars Braesicke" <braesi...@despammed.com> schrieb im
>> Newsbeitragnews:5l5bejF...@mid.individual.net...
> Nietzsche was about the most clear headed in prose of all of them and
> you appear muddled.
Do you have a bone through your Irish nose Mr.Irish Abbo, or should I say
Neanderthal?>
soga1893
> "Féachadóir" <Féach@d.óir> schrieb im Newsbeitragnews:ce9re3l2s0i90msj0...@4ax.com...
Just for the record, joking aside for the moment (no, really). I tried
to write two or three poems which would link the four seasons of the
Celt and pre-Celt world - a counterpoint to Rafterri's poem about the
coming of spring (Bridget).
It is about this time of year when the swallows and southern visitors
have left the world to us northerners. A song to the coming of winter
and Nietzsche had the same theme:
"Now is the coming of my winter mistress" - I don't know the original
German. My poem, for what it is worth, is:
Night Shift
The gulls have wheeled the cliff's face where the rocks and crags are
and caves suck the sea.
Loosened billows toss and fly
And shiver on pools where shore folk cry.
I taste my mouth and watch from the west window:
Another day.
I check the time.
soga1893
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> "soga1893" <dona...@utvinternet.com> wrote in message
Your fear of dogs, bones, Neanderthal and noses are all connected in
pre-history. Learn it yourself, I'm sober right now and couldn't be
bothered explaining it.