Re: Religious Leaders Battle White House on Abortion Issue in Obamacare.
Ray O'Hara
"WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie>" <ra...@iol.ie> wrote in message
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> White House is in an intractable dispute with Catholic bishops over
> abortion
> that could blow up fragile political coalition behind Obama's health care
> overhaul
>
this isn't Ireland where the chuech gets to set policy. and look at the
attendence at any church, its miniscule.
most people don't even go on Christmas and Easter anymore.
The Stupak amendment will be stripped from the bill, Stupak is a member of
the strange religious cult known as "The Family"
the group of Congressmen that lives in a rooming house on C street and which
is made up of Republicans and Democrats, they were doing fine until Senator
Eliot Stephen's was caught paying off his former mistress the wife of a
campaign employee to keep quiet.
since then the Family has been exposed and they are starting to catch heat,
the IRS is after them because they claimed to be a missoniary group sending
help to Africa and getting tax exempt status, that has been shown to be
fraudalent.
Ray Fischer
>White House is in an intractable dispute with Catholic bishops over abortion
>that could blow up fragile political coalition behind Obama's health care
>overhaul
Why do agents for a foreign dictatorship have ANY say over America's
health care policies?
> - November 20, 2009
>Bishops Press Obama to Strike Senate Provision Allowing Federal Abortion Funding
Which shows again the corruption that has infected the church. The
Bible gives them NO justification for forcing people to accept their
dictates.
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Ray Fischer
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Ray O'Hara
"Ray Fischer" <rfis...@sonic.net> wrote in message
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> WhiteWolf! <rayh@> wrote:
>>White House is in an intractable dispute with Catholic bishops over
>>abortion
>>that could blow up fragile political coalition behind Obama's health care
>>overhaul
>
> Why do agents for a foreign dictatorship have ANY say over America's
> health care policies?
>
they don't, and when the pedofiles mouth off they sink further into
irrelevence.
the religious right is vocal beyond their numbers, and while they can have
an effect on republican primaries in a general election their candidates get
smoked.
Ray Fischer
Nope.
>There is NO justification for forcing christian pro-life people to pay for the
>abortions of those who choose death over life for their unborn child.
But it's okay for these same lying hypocrites to force women to DIE?
More proof that the entire "pro-lfe" ideology is corrupt, evil, and
immoral.
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Ray Fischer
rfis...@sonic.net
Ray O'Hara
>
> the
> abortions of those who choose death over life for their unborn child.
>
no tax money goes to abortions. no tax money is being pledged for abortions
the Stupak amendment is trying to ban any money private or public from
going to abortions.
if your daughter got knocked up you'd be the first in line at the women's
health clinic.
all you rightwingnuts are hypocrites.
Seamus McDermott
>
> There is NO justification for forcing christian pro-life people to pay
> for the abortions of those who choose death over life for their unborn
> child.
>
> Ray
Jews and Moslems have to pay for subsidies to hog farmers. They make the
childless pay for educating your kids. They make the blind pay for
street lighting. They make pacifists pay for national defense (or just
the plain old invasion of another country). Seventh Day Adventists have
to pay for public hospitals.
So just go ahead and drop your 50 cents in the collection basket and shut
the fuck up, ray. The priests need the money to buy lube so they can
bugger your kids in the rectory. I always wondered why they called it a
"rectory". LOL. Merry Fucking Christmas.
Seamus
RichTravsky
> On 22 Nov 2009 08:52:36 GMT, Seamus McDermott <Sea...@bogusnet.net> wrote:
> >On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:52:05 -0500, WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is NO justification for forcing christian pro-life people to pay
> >> for the abortions of those who choose death over life for their unborn
> >> child.
> >>
> >> Ray
> >
> >Jews and Moslems have to pay for subsidies to hog farmers. They make the
> >childless pay for educating your kids. They make the blind pay for
> >street lighting. They make pacifists pay for national defense (or just
> >the plain old invasion of another country). Seventh Day Adventists have
> >to pay for public hospitals.
>
> unborn... Simple as that!
What murder? Murder applies to the living.
Ray Fischer
>On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:18:47 -0700, RichTravsky <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com>
>wrote:
Which means that you commit murder for each of the innocent
pre-fertilized babies that you have killed.
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Ray Fischer
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RichTravsky
> WhiteWolf! <rayh@> wrote:
> >On Wed, 25 Nov 2009 21:18:47 -0700, RichTravsky <traR...@hotmMOVEail.com>
> >>> On 22 Nov 2009 08:52:36 GMT, Seamus McDermott <Sea...@bogusnet.net> wrote:
> >>> >On Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:52:05 -0500, WhiteWolf! <rayh<spam>@iol.ie> wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> There is NO justification for forcing christian pro-life people to pay
> >>> >> for the abortions of those who choose death over life for their unborn
> >>> >> child.
> >>> >
> >>> >childless pay for educating your kids. They make the blind pay for
> >>> >street lighting. They make pacifists pay for national defense (or just
> >>> >the plain old invasion of another country). Seventh Day Adventists have
> >>> >to pay for public hospitals.
> >>>
> >>> You can't compare any of the above to the forced payment for the murder of the
> >>> unborn... Simple as that!
> >>
> >>What murder? Murder applies to the living.
> >
> >What are the Unborn? They *are* living human beings!
>
> Which means that you commit murder for each of the innocent
> pre-fertilized babies that you have killed.
The rightard doesn't know what an embryo is...
Don't anyone tell him an unfertilized egg is an "unborn" too...
RT
alex
I don't get the connection between 'forcing pro life people to pay for
abortions...' and 'force women to DIE'
Return to planet earth and call your mother.