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Pro-Humanist FREELOVER

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April 5, 2003

Home of 'Chemical Ali' bombed
http://www.msnbc.com/news/890574.asp?0sl=-23
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Excerpt:

Coalition aircraft have bombed the home of the
man known as "Chemical Ali," a cousin of Iraqi
President Saddam Hussein and commander
of Iraq's southern front, U.S. Central Command
said Saturday. Meanwhile, leaders of the ruling
Baath Party in Iraq's second city Basra fear
public reprisals and were seeking to negotiate
a surrender to British military forces besieging
the city, a pan-Arab newspaper reported. ...

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April 5, 2003

Iraqi Republican Guard 'finished'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/2920989.stm
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Excerpt:

The commander of the US-led air campaign
in Iraq says Republican Guard units outside
the capital Baghdad are "dead", following in-
tense bombardment. "The Iraqi military as an
organised defence in large combat formations
doesn't really exist anymore," Lieutenant-General
Michael Moseley told Pentagon reporters.

General Moseley also announced that coalition
aircraft had begun a 24-hour patrol operation
over Baghdad to be able to respond to needs
of troops on the ground. The announcement
came after US forces - backed by tanks and
armoured vehicles - made their first incursion
into the Iraqi capital.

They fought skirmishes with Iraq's elite Special
Republican Guard as they went up to the Tigris
river from the southern outskirts of the city before
moving west towards the airport.

US Major-General Victor Renuart said the inten-
tion was to indicate to the Iraqi leader that coali-
tion forces could move in and out of Baghdad
whenever they wished.

Pentagon officials added that the troops also
wanted to test the Iraqi response - and other
operations targeting more specific objectives
and points of resistance are likely.

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April 5, 2003

Closing In on Baghdad Will Push War Underground
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32294-2003Apr4.html
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Excerpts:

As U.S. military troops push toward Baghdad
with the most modern equipment, technology
and training money can buy, the Iraqi leadership
will rely on a defense that is ancient as warfare
itself: underground tunnels and bunkers.

... Among the more extensive tunnel complexes
are those described by Hussein Shahristani, once
Iraq's top nuclear scientist, who was tortured and
imprisoned in Iraq. Shahristani, who escaped Iraq
during the first Gulf War, said that subway plans
developed by several foreign firms were actually
used by the Iraqi military to hide and transport the
country's chemical and biological weapons.

Shahristani told CBS's "60 Minutes" in February that
he believed Iraq had "more than 100 kilometers of
very complex network, multi-layer tunnels."

Other Iraqi exiles and former Western construction
company officials have said all of Saddam's presi-
dential palaces include deep, hardened bunkers,
some of them massive in scale. Included among
them is one $70 million palace-and-bunker complex
that is protected by thick layers of concrete, steel
and blast doors that Wolfgang Wendler, a German
engineer who helped build it, described as being
able to withstand a Hiroshima-size explosion.

... Many of Iraq's military tunnels are believed to
have been built by Aeroinzenjering, a Serbian
engineering firm once run by the military of the
former Yugoslavia. Hussein maintained a close
relationship with Communist leader Tito (Josip
Broz), and with Slobodan Milosevic, whose under-
ground tunnels and bunkers bedeviled U.S. and
NATO commanders during the 1999 Kosovo air
war.

The company's Web site boasts that Aeroinzen-
jering has constructed a 450,000-square-meter
facility described as "special airport underground
fortification structures, sheltering complete military
units and equipment." But it does not say where
the facility was built.

... A batch of technological innovations is allowing
the U.S. government to better understand what's
below the surface ... Among them are seismic
devices akin to big hammers that pound the ground
and bounce back a signature like radar.

Experts also use gravimeters, which measure the
variations in the gravitational field between two or
more points to help pinpoint underground installa-
tions. Special high-flying spy cameras that measure
thermal energy and chemical releases are used to
find clues that may indicate the presence of under-
ground activity. ...

© 2003 The Washington Post Company

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Newsweek April 7, 2003 Issue

Saddam's Bunkers

Beneath the ground, a realm of catacombs and
secret passages, storehouses and hideouts
http://www.msnbc.com/news/892839.asp?0cb=-f1f133692
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Excerpt:

When one of the most secure and luxurious
of his palace-and-bunker complexes was com-
pleted in 1984, at a cost of $70 million, Saddam
Hussein moved in right away. But even protected
by enormous layers of concrete, sand and steel,
behind zigzag corridors and blast doors made
to withstand a Hiroshima-size explosion, and
guarded by men who knew they'd have to be
ready to die for him, or be killed by him, Saddam
apparently could not sleep.

"All night long he heard a sound like the cocking
of a pistol," remembers Wolfgang Wendler, the
German engineer who supervised the project.
Wendler was summoned by angry officials to
find out what was wrong. He discovered a faulty
thermostat.

Today the bunker beneath the "305 Guest House"
in Baghdad's main palace compound is part of an
underground world of tunnels, shelters and stor-
age depots where Saddam may be hiding his most
fearsome weapons, as well as himself. Iraqi sci-
entist Hussein Shahristani and other exiles even
talk of a phantom subway that was built but never
opened in the 1980s.

... What is certain is that many underground bunk-
ers and tunnels do exist, and they could be a sub-
terranean nightmare for American and British forces.
Day and night some of the most powerful "bunker-
busting" bombs in the U.S. arsenal are being
brought to bear on the massively fortified infra-
structure. Some of the bunkers are buried so far
beneath the city that when British Member of Parl-
iament George Galloway met with Saddam in one
of them last August, he wrote about taking a high-
speed elevator "so deeply under ground my ears
were popping."

... the Iraqi capital is not the only city in the country
built above a warren of catacombs and secret pas-
sages --some of them centuries old-- as well as
other high-tech hiding places for troops, supplies
and senior officials.

... Some Egyptians who've worked on the capital's
underground fortifications talk fancifully about plans
to build a "mirror Baghdad" buried almost as deep
as the skyline is high. ...

© 2003 Newsweek, Inc.

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April 5, 2003

U.S. to impose cordon on Baghdad
Iraqi forces to be attacked section by section of city
http://www.msnbc.com/news/895729.asp?0dm=C16PN
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Excerpt:

The U.S. military plans to establish a loose
"cordon" around Baghdad and begin leafletting
and radio and television broadcasts designed
to convince the capital's 5 million residents that
Iraqi President Saddam Hussein will soon be
defeated, defense officials said yesterday.

Officials also said that U.S. commanders hope
to use certain geographic features -- including
the Tigris River, which bisects Baghdad, and
a number of broad avenues that cut through it --
to divide the city into sections. U.S. Special Oper-
ations and armored forces would attempt to seize
those sections one by one and clear each of Iraqi
soldiers and the irregular militias fighting along-
side them.

The cordon would differ from a siege, officials
explained, in that people who wanted to leave the
city would be permitted to go, and humanitarian
relief would come in. But there would be no at-
tempt to empty Baghdad of its civilian population
to isolate Iraqi forces entrenched there, because
the creation of huge refugee camps on the out-
skirts of the city could create an array of serious
humanitarian concerns. ...

© 2003 The Washington Post Company

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(Freethinking Realist Exploring Expressive Liberty,
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maff

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Apr 6, 2003, 4:58:02 AM4/6/03
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"Pro-Humanist FREELOVER" <p...@ghg.net> wrote in message news:<3e8f4...@news.ghg.net>...
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But you have already admitted that you don't like Arabs or Muslims,
fascist leader. So you're going to liberate the Iraqis, Iranians and
the Chinese?

Iraq first, Iran and China next
http://tinyurl.com/8x3h

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> April 4, 2003
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> Positive test for terror toxins in Iraq
> http://www.msnbc.com/news/895185.asp?0cv=CA01
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But it isn't for Humanist fascist leaders whether there's any evidence
or not. It's for International inspectors and International Criminal
Courts to decide that. So why are you shy about appearing before the
ICC?

International Criminal Court
http://tinyurl.com/8vgd
http://tinyurl.com/8vge
http://tinyurl.com/8vgg
http://tinyurl.com/8vgi

World Criminal Court
http://tinyurl.com/8vgm
http://tinyurl.com/8vgq
http://tinyurl.com/8vgr
http://tinyurl.com/8vgs

You should by now know most atheists don't accept creationist stories
and 'evidence'. So why do you think most atheists are going to accept
your 'evidence'. It may fare better in a creationist or fascist forum.
So forget about incubatior stories, Boys who cried WMD and other
stories.

Incubator
http://tinyurl.com/8vgu
http://tinyurl.com/8vgw
http://tinyurl.com/8vgy

Boy who cried Wolf
http://tinyurl.com/8vgz
http://tinyurl.com/8vh0
http://tinyurl.com/8vh2

Fascist/ fundamentalist/ Imperialist leaders and their businesses are
going to be identified by computer databases and Neural Networks from
top to bottom. So you better better be prepared to pay any price and
bear any burden for fascism.

Neural Networks
http://tinyurl.com/8vh5
http://tinyurl.com/8vh6
http://tinyurl.com/8vh7

Fascist*
http://tinyurl.com/8vh9
http://tinyurl.com/8vha
http://tinyurl.com/8vhb


Saddam International Airport is under new management / chemical
warfare training facility found outside Baghdad
http://tinyurl.com/8ul3

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Pro-Humanist FREELOVER

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Apr 6, 2003, 5:29:31 PM4/6/03
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Some photos from Iraq, as of 4:00 p.m. CT,
April 6, 2003:

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Soldiers with the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne
Division (Air Assault) ride past Baghdad's main
airport on April 6, as they finish conducting final
clearing checks. After gaining control of Saddam
International Airport, the Army renamed the
facility Baghdad International Airport.
http://tinyurl.com/8xxy
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Soldiers with the Army's 101st Airborne
Division check their weapons and rest
inside the main terminal of Baghdad's
international airport on Sunday, April 6
http://tinyurl.com/8xy7
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Iraqi Kurd children walk up to a bombed
Iraqi military truck in a former Iraqi
miltary outpost south of Irbil
http://tinyurl.com/8xsn
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On the outskirts of Baghdad, U.S. Marines
from the 3rd Battalion, 4th Regiment,
move past a mosque to take positions
on April 6, while fighting to secure a key
bridge into the Iraqi capital
http://tinyurl.com/8xxl
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British AS 90 155mm self propelled guns
of C Battery, 3 Regiment of the Royal
Horse Artillery, fire on Iraqi targets from
a position near the city of Basra
http://tinyurl.com/8xsi
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U.S. Marines of the 3rd battalion, 4th regiment,
take position after they were fired on by an
Iraqi sniper on the main road to Baghdad,
some six miles from the Iraqi capital
http://tinyurl.com/8xs8
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A young boy gives a thumb-up the Royal Marines
from 42 Commando as they drive into the heart
of the city of Basra, April 6. The British Marines
had been expecting enemy forces but were only
met with cheers and smiles.
http://tinyurl.com/8xwm
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Britain's Desert Rats enter a northern
area of the city of Basra on April 6
http://tinyurl.com/8xwa
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Lance Cpl. Elios Pelaez, left, of Los Angeles,
and Lance Cpl. Stephen Ferris of Walpole,
Mass., search a building at an alleged terrorist
training facility in Salman Pak, a small town
about 20 miles southeast of Baghdad, on
Sunday, April 6
http://tinyurl.com/8xxa
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Soldiers from the 3rd Battalion, 2nd Brigade,
101st Airborne Division (Air Assault) engage
in block-to-block urban combat in the
streets of Karbala, April 5
http://tinyurl.com/8xwu
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Marine Corps helicopters are refueled at a
refueling depot on April 5, in central Iraq.
The Marines continue to sweep through the
country looking for enemy forces.
http://tinyurl.com/8xza
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An Iraqi man gives a boutonniere to a
Marine with Echo Company, 15th Marine
Expeditionary Unit, at a checkpoint in
Nasiriyah in southern Iraq on April 5
http://tinyurl.com/8xzw
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Camels cross the street as British soldiers
guard a road leading into Iraq's southern
town of Umm Qasr on April 5
http://tinyurl.com/8xzk
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Soldiers clear a Presidential Palace
after U.S. forces took control of Saddam
International Airport near Baghdad
http://tinyurl.com/8y07
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Life After Saddam
http://tinyurl.com/8uxu
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Friday's mission for the soldiers of the U.S.
3rd Infantry Division, 3rd Squadron, 7th Cavalry:
Secure Saddam International Airport. A major
complex just 12 miles from downtown Baghdad,
troops went in prepared for heavy resistance.
http://tinyurl.com/8uw7
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What Will It Take To Win?
http://tinyurl.com/8uxm
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Staff Sgt Jack Coughlin from Boston,
Mass., of the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marines
Regiment, jokes with Iraqi villagers
http://tinyurl.com/8uri
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Dust-covered U.S. Marines from the 2nd
Battalion, 8th Regiment travel north near
Diwaniyah in central Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/8ur1
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David Toughill, a soldier with Britain's Desert Rats,
plays with a local girl in Zubayr, southern Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/8umi
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U.S. Army Bradley fighting vehicles from A
Company 3rd Battalion 7th Regiment continue
on their way after destroying an Iraqi military
vehicle on the outskirts of Baghdad
http://tinyurl.com/8urv
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US army soldiers secure an area close
to the Shiite Muslim holy city of Karbala
following a battle with Iraqi forces
http://tinyurl.com/8umn
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British soldier guarding ammunition left at
an abandoned Iraqi base west of Basra
http://tinyurl.com/8umv
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Medical battallion Chief Hospital Corpsman David
Jones from New York ... holds a newborn Iraqi baby
... Doctors supporting U.S. Marine combat operations
in Iraq had to brush up their child delivery skills when
a young Iraqi woman, Jamila Katham, was brought to
their base and gave birth to a six-pound baby girl ... The
baby, Katham's first child, has been named Rogenia.
http://tinyurl.com/8us8
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Members of Britain's 3 Parachute Regiment
Mortar Platoon firing in the desert west of Basra
http://tinyurl.com/8umz
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A view of strikes by U.S. warplanes in the Domis
area between Dohuk and Mosul in northern Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/8utn
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Royal Marines use hovercraft to patrol
in the Shatt al Basra, south of Basra
http://tinyurl.com/8un9
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U.S. Marine Cpl. Joseph Ellis of Hickory, N.C.,
and Task Force Tarawa places sandbags on
his Humvee as parakeets used to detect
chemical weapons sit on the hood
http://tinyurl.com/8uu4
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An Iraqi man in a cart pulled by donkeys crosses
through a British checkpoint near Basra
http://tinyurl.com/8uo0
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U.S. Marines from Lima Company, a part of the
7th regiment, secure a bridge over Tigris river
http://tinyurl.com/8uu8
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Just nineteen ... Private Jessica Lynch, from
Palestine, West Virginia, captured by the
Iraqis and saved by Navy Seals and Army
Rangers in a rescue operation
http://tinyurl.com/8uo9
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Units from the U.S. Army's 3rd Infantry Division fire
missiles at the Iraqi Republican Guard near Karbala
http://tinyurl.com/8uue
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US Army armament crew specialist Michael Mayo,
from Florida, loads the rocket pod of an an Apache
AH-64D attack helicopter in the central Iraqi desert
http://tinyurl.com/8uok
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US Navy boatswain's mate guides British Army
light armored vehicle into position on the
amphibious landing ship USS Rushmore
http://tinyurl.com/8uos
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Smoke bellows from a building hit during
a coalition forces air raid in Baghdad
http://tinyurl.com/8uxf
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A U.S. Marine with the 15th Expeditionary Unit holds
a baby as the baby's mother attempts to pass through
a checkpoint at the Saddam Hospital in An Nasiriyah
http://tinyurl.com/8uuj
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A portrait of Iraq's leader Saddam Hussein lies
amongst the debris of an Iraqi base in southern Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/8up2
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British troops unload a truck full of supplies
for the village of Imam Anas, outside Basra,
where a ration card system has been used
to ensure food is distributed fairly
http://tinyurl.com/8upk
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Scimitar of the Queens Dragoon Guards (right)
looks on as a striker vehicle fires a sidewinder
missile at an Iraqi bunker in southern Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/8upr
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Chief Warrant Officer Chris Roop ... tries to cover
his gear with a poncho near an A2C2S Black Hawk
as a ferocious sandstorm hits the ... 101st Airborne
Division's fleet of more than 270 attack helicopters
http://tinyurl.com/8uuz
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An Iraqi child receives humanitarian
aid from British Royal Marines on
the streets of Umm Qasr
http://tinyurl.com/8gi8
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U.S. Marines read magazines whilst wearing
respirators during a gas attack alert in an
undisclosed location in the Iraqi desert
http://tinyurl.com/8gig
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British Royal Marine Eric Walderman dons the
kevlar helmet which saved his life after it was
hit by four bullets during a firefight in the assault
on the southern Iraq port of Umm Qsar
http://tinyurl.com/8gip
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Two F/A-18 Hornets take off for a strike against
Iraq from the aircraft carrier USS Harry S Truman
http://tinyurl.com/8uv5
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Smoke billows from an explosion in
the presidential compound in Baghdad
following a US-British air raid
http://tinyurl.com/8git
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British Challenger 2 tanks fire on enemy
vehicles on the front line just outside Basra
http://tinyurl.com/8gjj
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Cmdr Bill Dooris flies over Kuwait on his way to
Iraq in his FA-18 Hornet, carrying Mk-82 bombs
and a sidewinder missile, with his wingman
http://tinyurl.com/8xv6
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Chemical warfare specialist Lance Cpl. Thomas
Conroy ... of the U.S. Marines 3rd Batallion, 4th
Regiment, takes care of his pigeon while Cpl. Buck
Flowers ... looks on in central Iraq ... The pigeon,
called "Devil Bird," is used to detect chemical attacks.
http://tinyurl.com/8uvc
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British Royal Marine Roger Green gives
out sweets to Iraqi children as British
Troops bring the first humanitarian aid
to Umm Qasr, Southern Iraq
http://tinyurl.com/8gk2
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A scene of an explosion in central Baghdad
during the third night of American air attacks
http://tinyurl.com/8xv2
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K-Dog R , a bottle-nose dolphin belonging to
Commander Task Unit CTU-55.4.3 and trained
to seek out mines, leaps out of the water
http://tinyurl.com/8gkk
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A U.S. Army 3rd Infantry Division M1/A1
Abrams tank rolls deeper into Iraqi territory
March 23, 2003 south of the city of An Najaf
http://tinyurl.com/8xuv
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Smokescreen decoys burn around
Baghdad as the Iraqi regime set fire to
oil filled trenches surrounding the city
http://tinyurl.com/8ux3
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Members of the Desert Rats - Zulu Company,
British Royal Fusiliers, drive their Warrior tank
into a portrait of Saddam Hussein
http://tinyurl.com/8gkv
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Smoke billows during a US strike on
a presidential palace in Baghdad
http://tinyurl.com/8gli
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Smoke covers the presidential palace
compound in Baghdad during a massive
US-led air raid on the Iraqi capital
http://tinyurl.com/8gm8
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U.S. Marine Major Bull Gurfein pulls down a
poster of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein
March 21, 2003 in Safwan, Iraq.
http://tinyurl.com/8xus
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An explosion rocks Baghdad during air strikes
March 21, 2003. U.S.-led forces unleashed a
devastating blitz on Baghdad on Friday night,
triggering giant fireballs and deafening explosions
and sending huge mushroom clouds above the
city centre. Missiles slammed into the main palace
complex of President Saddam Hussein and key
government buildingson the bank of the Tigris River.
http://tinyurl.com/8xvw
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British Royal Artillary troops from 29 Commando
Regiment fire their 105mm light guns from a
position in the Kuwait desert at targets in Southern
Iraq during the first night of the allied campaign
http://tinyurl.com/8gmm
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Gulf War II
http://tinyurl.com/8uxq
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Bound For Baghdad
http://tinyurl.com/8uxt
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Donald Rumsfeld's Blueprint For War
http://tinyurl.com/8uy2
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Do You Want This War?
http://tinyurl.com/8uy6
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But it still isn't going to resolve your fascist high command problem.
The World's bankers are even more vindictive than your fascist leader,
Dumbya.

http://tinyurl.com/8m4y

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