The Dark Anniversary.
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extinction, the nuclear nightmare, like the most evil Genie that a mad
scientist can possibly imagine, out of the bottle, never to be returned
back in. Ever since then, the world would never ever be the same.
On this day, 53 years ago, we entered the nuclear age, and the
spiral into the apocolypse has been slowly swirling, as the people of
the world fully realize, there is indeed truth to the biblical
predictions of the "end to an evil world".
Man's inhumanity to man. An ongoing saga in the history of human
civilization. With every technological advancement of the human
species, yet one thing does not ever change, the human nature. At one
time, the Nazi military machine terrorized the entire planet, with fury,
and vengeance, and hatered. It took the equally vengeful and furious
atom bomb to bring Japan to it's knees, and subsequently end all the
hostilities of World War 2.
Since then, if I am not mistaken, no nuclear power has ever gone to
war with another nuclear power. In other words, any 2 countries that
have acquired the nuclear bomb, have avoided a direct confrontation,
because the consequences threaten to be so unthinkably horrific. There
have been "proxy wars" and "cold wars" between any 2 nuclear powers, but
never wars directly against each other. And that, it seems to me, is a
good thing. It may be that the nuclear age sobers the inhabitants of
this planet into the realization of the mind boggling horrors of an
armed conflict, and maybe we will all be forced to understand each other
and communicate with each other in order to avoid annihilating each
other, as the world becomes an increasingly smaller and more fragile
place that we all are forced to live in. Yet at the same time, the
population continues to grow, thus the stakes rise higher still, with
every child that is born. Somehow, we will have to get along, just to
survive.
In other words, it is the same leaky boat, that we are all floating
precariously in. Yet there is hope, because there is no other way out,
we just absolutely HAVE to avoid misunderstandings and communicate with
each other. Different nations, different religions, different cultures,
different languages, and with different grievances and views of what is
happening to us in this cruel and confusing world.
In my oppinion, the nuclear bomb is a necessary evil. But an evil
never the less.
ISOT, from California
Scott Birch
remember.
On the sixth of August, 1945, an American pilot flew a plane
over Hiroshima, Japan. A "small" nuclear device, equivalent
in explosive power to 12 thousand 5 hundred tonnes of
trinitrotoluene (TNT)exploded in the air over the city.
Forget Trinity; I believe that _this_ was the day that
humanity stared into the 'moronic inferno', the beginning of
a new era in human history. August 6th 1945 was the day that
we used the power to end our species on the whole planet
and for all eternity, just to "resolve" a short-term, local
dispute.
I can't think about it properly. It's too much. How can we
consider the consequences of nuclear war when we have
experienced nothing like it, and can experience nothing like
it and live? In a way, it's "invisible" to us. It cannot and
_must_ not be witnessed.
The closest I have come is in the reading of "The Fate of
the Earth", first published in 1982 and written by Jonathan
Schell. (ISBN 0 224 02064 1)
He is one of the few of us with the guts to stare human
extinction in the face and attempt to examine it properly.
Here are a couple of extracts:
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"You might say that the energy yielded by application of the
universal physics of the twentieth century exceeds the energy
yielded by that of the terrestrial, or planetary, physics of
the nineteenth century as the cosmos exceeds the earth. Yet it
was with the earth's comparatively tiny, frail ecosphere that
mankind released the newly tapped cosmic energy."
"In view of this scientific background, President Harry
Truman was speaking to the point when, in his announcement
that the United States had dropped an atomic bomb on
Hiroshima, he told the world that 'the basic power of the
universe' had been harnessed by the United States, and added
that 'the force from which the sun draws its powers has been
loosed against those who brought war to the Far East.'
The huge - the monstrous - disproportion between 'the basic
power of the universe' and the merely terrestrial creatures
by which and against which it was aimed in anger defined the
dread predicament that the world has tried, and failed, to
come to terms with ever since."
...
"The Hiroshima people's experience ... is of much more than
historical interest. It is a picture of what our whole
world is always poised to become - a backdrop of scarcely
imaginable horror lying just behind the surface of our
normal life, and capable of breaking through into that
normal life at any second."
...
"Yet the deterrence policy in itself is clearly not the
deepest source of our difficulty. Rather, as we have seen,
it is only a piece of repair work on the immeasurably
more deeply entrenched system of national sovereignty.
People do not want deterrence for its own sake; indeed,
they hardly know what it is, and tend to shun the whole
subject. They want the national sovereignty that deterrence
promises to preserve. National sovereignty lies at the very
core of the political issues that the peril of extinction
forces upon us. Sovereignty is the 'reality' that the
'realists' counsel us to accept as inevitable, referring to
any alternative as 'unrealistic' or 'utopian'. If the
argument about nuclear weapons is to be conducted in good
faith, then just as those who favour the deterrence policy
... must in all honesty admit that their scheme
contemplates the extinction of man in the name of
protecting national sovereignty, so must those who favour
complete nuclear and conventional disarmament ... admit
that their recommendation is inconsistent with national
sovereignty; to pretend otherwise would be to evade the
political question that is central to the nuclear
predicament."
"The terms of the deal that the world has now struck with
itself must be made clear. On the one side stand human
life and the terrestrial creation. On the other side
stands a particular organization of human life - the
system of independent, sovereign nation-states. Our
choice so far has been to preserve that political
organization of human life at the cost of risking
all human life. We are told that 'realism' compels us to
preserve the system of sovereignty. But that political
realism is not biological realism; it is biological
nihilism - and for that reason is, of course, political
nihilism, too. Indeed, it is nihilism in every conceivable
sense of that word. We are told that it is human fate -
perhaps even 'a law of human nature' - that, in obedience,
perhaps, to some 'territorial imperative', or to some dark
and ineluctable truth in the bottom of our souls, we must
preserve sovereignty and always settle our differences
with violence. If this is our fate, then it is our fate
to die. But must we embrace nihilism? Must we die?"
...
"We are indeed fated by our acquisition of the basic
knowledge of physics to live for the rest of time with
the knowledge of how to destroy ourselves. But we are
not for that reason fated to destroy ourselves. We can
choose to live."
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This is never a pleasant day for me. I was touched
irrecoverably by the footage of nuclear tests I watched
when I was at school. However, the issue of nuclear
weapons reminds us of the need to tackle basic issues of
human conflict. Our struggles are minor when viewed against
a million-year backdrop of human development , but now
we have a motivation to face up to them - if we do not,
human development could end.
There are many who may think I am being excessively
alarmist, those who think nuclear war is endurable. But
we do not know enough about nuclear conflict to be sure,
and so we definitely cannot, as humans, gamble when the
stake is possibly human extinction.
On this dark anniversary, I humbly invite readers to consider
ways in which the threat of a nuclear holocaust may be
obviated. It would seem obvious to me that any answers, any
bulwark against mass destruction that humans could build,
would be trans-national. Are the world-spanning models of
religious "umma" that have their origins in the Middle East,
or the Western-inspired multi-national corporations championed
by America and the Far East able to be used as a defence
against the fatal flaws of the purely local phenomenon that
is a "nation"? Does anybody have any answers for me? Because
on this day, I do feel afraid.
Scott.
IranNews1
What do you think would happen if Israelis drop a crude "fatman" on Qum. Do
you think it will have the same consquence? Qum is of course populated by sosk
instead of humans. I guess the pilots would have to wear night vision to be
able to see the sosks one by one. Ther are so many sosk there that you won't
believe it. A "fatman" I think should do the job.
Babak
>Subject: The Dark Anniversary.
>From: Scott Birch <scott...@mcmail.com>
>Date: 8/6/98 1:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time
>Message-id: <35C96A...@mcmail.com>
IranNews1
Back a few years ago, there was one sosks in my neighborhood. I didn't pay
much attention to it. My wife said it will go away. After a few days down the
street, up the street, everywhere we went there were sosks. All our neighbors
were complaining about sosks. And they were blaming me because I didn't do
anything about the sosk that we found in our house after we came back from
honeymoon.
I sure hope I had done something about that stupid sosk the first time I laid
my eyes on it. But I was young and on honeymoon and I didn't want to get
bugged down with it. So to make the story short that sosk got away.
Now that one sosk, has turned into thousands and thousands and they are every
where. But, I've done some research and have located their colony. It is in
Qum. All the fat, ugly and dirty sosks come out of there. I guess the only
thing we can do now is to ask Batman to drop the Fatman on Qum.
On second thought, lets not nuke Qum. After all what can just one sosk colony
do to Iran?
Babak
La6red9nec
>From: iran...@aol.com (IranNews1)
>Date: Thu, Aug 6, 1998 11:08 EDT
>Message-id: <199808061508...@ladder03.news.aol.com>
>
>Someone said: What is Sosk? And how come I say drop a Fatman on them?
>
>Back a few years ago, there was one sosks in my neighborhood. I didn't pay
>much attention to it. My wife said it will go away. After a few days down
>the
>street, up the street, everywhere we went there were sosks. All our neighbors
>were complaining about sosks. And they were blaming me because I didn't do
>anything about the sosk that we found in our house after we came back from
>honeymoon.
>
You are beautifully describing why sag johode damgh gonde are hated everywhere
they turn and are chased out after they randomly wear out their welcome. Yyou
are also using the correct terminology. Maybe I have been wrong about you but I
see that you are not that stupid after all.
Scott Birch
Thanks for an intelligent reply ISOT: the only one I've seen
so far.
We underestimate the evil of nuclear weapons. We are all suffering
the bad effects of simply knowing that they exist. How often do we
think about them? How deeply? To paraphrase Martin Amis: the man
with a loaded gun in his mouth may boast about not thinking about
it. He may not even be thinking about it - but he tastes it. All
the time.
In the dark parts of our minds is the taste of the gun. How does
it affect us? Deterrence has worked for 53 years. On this planet
we may have as long as 8 000 000 000 years to go.
For and against deterrence:
For: deterrence at least implies an admission that destruction
would be mutual and assured. At some level, deterrence makes us
consider consequences.
Against: in order for it to work, it must be credible. That means
both sides must actually make real preparations for such
destruction to occur. We must plan to do what must _never_
be done. In order to avoid the holocaust, we must work towards
a holocaust? We must not only get used to the terror of nuclear
weapons, but place them at the heart of our affairs, put our
faith in them!
From this, I feel deterrence won't save us.
History shows us that every arms race has led to a war.
We are all in this together,so there no external enemy,and all
differences are internal differences. Therefore, we cannot
afford to alienate even _one_ human being in this. In a world
vulnerable to destruction by humans, all humans must be treated
with respect and a deep commitment to mutual understanding.
Be well, ISOT,
Scott.
~~~ Aq ~~~
History always showed our Freedom never got achieved by doing nothing
about the sitting and not fighting for your rights
thats why Mongolians lasted for 700 years and destroyed our beautiful
country, Then Arabs attacked and same thing They burnt books, changed
our
religion, killed writers and etc..
Akhond invasion started 20 years ago and its still going because of
nonsense useless talk of the similiar people who Helped Mongolians
or Arabs
We always have to Fight for our rights and Stand up and be a Persian
we are,
Americans did it, Europeans did it, Japaneez did it, every civilized
country has had to fight for their freedom and Human rights ,
we Persian/Iranian people have nothing less and we can do it ..
don't let bunch of Paid Noname Biosed Hezbolah Supporter to talk you
away from standing up for your given human rights and freedom.
Pass the word around and email to every one ...
wish you luck happiness and success to every one ..
~~~~ Payande Bad Iran ~~~~
~~~ be omide Iran e Azad ~~~
~~~ Aq ~~~
ps. also watch out for these Hezbolah supporters too :
> Dear People:
>
> Please watch out for these Hezbolahi Mozdors on the Net,
> They are pretending that they are just a normal Iranians, and their
> intentions is just to put further distance among our people .. so that
> they
> can milk our country further ... and run this Pre-Historic Anti Human
> Goverment of Ayatollahs for longer period of time :
>
> Here are some names that you should really watch for :
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>
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>
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>
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> you can also search for thier names you will be very surprized:
>
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> posted 2261 unique articles supporting Islamic Republic of Iran in
the
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>
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