Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) is a baha'i
Freethought110
again more evidence of baha'i hypocrisy. No wonder Arafat was ready to
get rid of him. Abu Mazen, by virtue of his baha'i affiliation,
would've been quite ready to sell the Palestinian down the drain.
This is better proof than NITV that the uhj is neck deep in the
politics of the region.
--
From "The Jerusalem Post"
Khaled Abu Toameh May. 25, 2003
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thousands of leaflets were distributed after Friday prayers on
the Temple Mount, accusing Palestinian Authority Prime Minister
Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) of being a follower of the Baha'i faith,
the
youngest of the world's independent religions.
The Baha'i faith is a sect descending from Islam, but most
Muslims don't regard it as authentically Islamic. Its founder,
Bahaullah
(1817-1892), is regarded by the Baha'i as the most recent in the line
of messengers of God that includes Abraham, Moses, Buddha, Zoroaster,
Jesus, and Muhammad.
Rumors about Abbas's affiliation with the Baha'i faith have been
circulating among Palestinians for many years. His critics have
used these rumors to portray him as a member of a cult who does not
recognize Islam as his sole religion. This image lies in sharp
contrast to that earned by PA Chairman Yasser Arafat, who is keen
on maintaining the figure of a devout Muslim.
The rumors resurfaced two months ago when Abbas's name was first
mentioned as a top candidate for the premiership. Some Palestinians
have hinted that Arafat and his inner circle are behind the rumors,
which have never been denied by Abbas himself.
The leaflets distributed on Friday carried no signature. Some
worshipers said they were handed out by at least a dozen of young
bearded Muslim activists.
The fliers accused Abbas of belonging to the Baha'i faith, "a
breakaway sect established by the British colony with the aim of
distorting the image of Islam." They also accused Abbas of seeking
to "uproot the Islamic trend and martyrdom" and of relinquishing
the Muslim right to all of Palestine.
"The appointment of Mahmoud Abbas as prime minister is part of a
Zionist plan so he would continue making concessions to the
Jews," the leaflets said. "They want him to negotiate on the remaining
20 percent of Palestine after he voluntarily gave up 80% of the
blessed Palestinian land when he signed the Oslo Accords."
This is the first time that such leaflets have been distributed
on the Temple Mount. Similar leaflets have appeared in Ramallah and
Gaza City, but none mentioned the alleged Baha'i connection, focusing
instead on the widespread belief that Abbas was appointed by the
US and Israel in order to serve the latter's security interests.
In an apparent attempt to ward off the rumors, Abbas earlier this
year performed the hajj. The main headquarters of the Baha'i are in
Haifa. There are probably between 3 and 4 million Baha'is, and the
largest Baha'i community can be found in India.
Baha'i doctrines teach the complete equality of men and women and the
unity of all humanity. Followers of this faith consider themselves
to be working toward a world government where extremes of poverty
and wealth, along with all forms of persecution, will be eliminated.
---
One finds all sorts of chicanery, nepotism and favouritism in the
Palestinian Authority, all requirements for progress on the standard
western-backed 'third world' model. Most of Arafat's cronies have
questionable allegiances, and many also have their greedy mitts in
the western aid coffers. For example, Abu Mazen, who is a Baha'i and
believed to be in line as successor when Arafat outlives his
usefulness, recently purchased a luxurious home in Ramallah, but
through some shady wheeling and dealing he still collects rent from
the Palestinian Authority on the same piece of property. As a Baha'i,
Abu Mazen is entitled to burial in the secretive sect's World
Headquarters in Akka, Israel (that is, in the 1948 part of Occupied
Palestine).
With 'peace' comes 'progress' to Palestine
By J A Progler in Ramallah Muslimedia: September 1-15, 1997
http://www.muslimedia.com/archives/features98/palprog.htm
Alborz
maybe Bush and sharon are Bahai too ?
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Lisa R.
> So much for the baha'i principle of non-involvement in politics! Yet
> again more evidence of baha'i hypocrisy. No wonder Arafat was ready to
> get rid of him. Abu Mazen, by virtue of his baha'i affiliation,
> would've been quite ready to sell the Palestinian down the drain.
>
> This is better proof than NITV that the uhj is neck deep in the
> politics of the region.
>
> --
> From "The Jerusalem Post"
> Khaled Abu Toameh May. 25, 2003
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Thousands of leaflets were distributed after Friday prayers on
> the Temple Mount, accusing Palestinian Authority Prime Minister
> Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) of being a follower of the Baha'i faith,
> the
> youngest of the world's independent religions.
>
> The Baha'i faith is a sect descending from Islam, but most
> Muslims don't regard it as authentically Islamic.
Oh, but why would that matter to the tolerant folk on the West Bank?
You see, they're on the verge on creating a democratic, pluralistic
and secular
"Izratine." It will be a Lockean egalitarian paradise, featuring
inviolable minority rights, especially for Jews. As a side benefit,
each true believer in the "Izratine" plan gets first crack at the
Palestinian IPO in Brooklyn bridge and Florida swampland shares.
Lisa
Freethought110
> Oh, but why would that matter to the tolerant folk on the West Bank?
>
> You see, they're on the verge on creating a democratic, pluralistic
> and secular
> "Izratine."
Kind of like the democratic, pluralistic and secular "Jewish"
apartheid state of the west of the West Bank, eh?
> It will be a Lockean egalitarian paradise, featuring
> inviolable minority rights, especially for Jews.
Much like the Lockean egalitarian Jewish paradise featuring inviolable
minority rights for Palestinians, correct? Or how about the
egalitarian paradise which builds walls that puts the Wall the Nazis
built at the Warsaw ghetto to shame!
BTov
> mand...@aol.com (Lisa R.) wrote in message
>
> > Oh, but why would that matter to the tolerant folk on the West Bank?
> > You see, they're on the verge on creating a democratic, pluralistic
> > and secular
> > "Izratine."
> Kind of like the democratic, pluralistic and secular "Jewish"
> apartheid state of the west of the West Bank, eh?
so palibans ARE an apartheid bunch!?
lol
> > It will be a Lockean egalitarian paradise, featuring
> > inviolable minority rights, especially for Jews.
> Much like the Lockean egalitarian Jewish paradise featuring inviolable
> minority rights for Palestinians, correct?
the door's always open to their enlightened arab paradise ;L
they somehow wouldn't leave tho..
why?
;L
> Or how about the
> egalitarian paradise which builds walls that puts the Wall the Nazis
> built at the Warsaw ghetto to shame!
did jews also used to blow nazi buses & cafes up on a daily basis?
;L
Lisa R.
> freetho...@yahoo.com (Freethought110) wrote in message news:<83b59396.03091...@posting.google.com>...
> > mand...@aol.com (Lisa R.) wrote in message
> >
> > > Oh, but why would that matter to the tolerant folk on the West Bank?
> > > You see, they're on the verge on creating a democratic, pluralistic
> > > and secular
> > > "Izratine."
>
> > Kind of like the democratic, pluralistic and secular "Jewish"
> > apartheid state of the west of the West Bank, eh?
I guess this guy doesn't know that 20 percent of Israel is Arabic.
> so palibans ARE an apartheid bunch!?
> lol
>
> > > It will be a Lockean egalitarian paradise, featuring
> > > inviolable minority rights, especially for Jews.
>
> > Much like the Lockean egalitarian Jewish paradise featuring inviolable
> > minority rights for Palestinians, correct?
>
> the door's always open to their enlightened arab paradise ;L
> they somehow wouldn't leave tho..
> why?
> ;L
Here's the new name for Palestine: Afghanistan.
Lisa
Nima Rezai
>> Or how about the
>> egalitarian paradise which builds walls that puts the Wall the Nazis
>> built at the Warsaw ghetto to shame!
>
> did jews also used to blow nazi buses & cafes up on a daily basis?
> ;L
Boker Tov,
bad comparison. Unlike the Jews in Palestine, the Germans (in Germany) were
not brutal occupiers,
and the german Jews had no reason to attack their fellow german citizens.
As far as the german army abroad is concerned, surely the Jews resisted as
far as possible. Beside the fact that they had only limited means to carry
out suicide bombings inside Germany or elsewhere against Germans, it would
not make sense to - say -attack polish buses or cafes.
But most important, why do you compare Jews with Nazis?
Did´nt you find anything closer to the IDF (in behaviour) than the
"Wehrmacht"?
Nima
Pacifist
news:83b59396.0309...@posting.google.com
> So much for the baha'i principle of non-involvement in politics! Yet
> again more evidence of baha'i hypocrisy. No wonder Arafat was ready to
> get rid of him. Abu Mazen, by virtue of his baha'i affiliation,
> would've been quite ready to sell the Palestinian down the drain.
I have been questioning my Bahai friends and it's strange how lost for
words they are on this occasion.
Where a simple denial would have sufficed, there is silence.
This story might even be true.
P
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Susan Maneck
>
>O no! A Pallie Bahai, excuse me while I take an aspirin and lie down!
LOL Actually this rumor was started over five years ago by fundamentalist
Muslims
groups trying to discredit Abu Mazen. Apparently this was the worst accusation
they could invent! In any case, I asked the Baha'i External Affairs Office
about this
some nine months ago, they told me he was not a Baha'i and that they had no
idea on what basis these Muslims were saying this.
warmest, Susan
http://bahaistudies.net/susanmaneck/
Baha'i Studies is available through the following:
http://list.jccc.net/cgi-bin/lyris.pl?enter=bahai-st
Susan Maneck
>did jews also used to blow nazi buses & cafes up on a daily basis?
>;L
Naah. Just hotels on an occasional basis, and they were British. ;-}
Susan Maneck
>I have been questioning my Bahai friends and it's strange how lost for
>words they are on this occasion.
>
Dear P,
The reason they are at a loss for words is that most of them have never heard
such a thing so they have no idea how to respond.
>Where a simple denial would have sufficed, there is silence.
When I myself heard of it some nine months ago I contacted the Baha'i External
Affairs Office and was told in no uncertain terms that the man was not a Baha'i
and that they had no idea why anyone thought he was. The apparent source of
that rumor is that this guy's name was Abbas which people associated with Abbas
Effendi (Abdu'l-Baha.) The conclusion was then made that he must be a Baha'i.
He himself denied this claim and got some of the newspapers making it to issue
a retraction.
warmest, Susan
BTov
> BTov wrote:
>
> >> Or how about the
> >> egalitarian paradise which builds walls that puts the Wall the Nazis
> >> built at the Warsaw ghetto to shame!
> >
> > did jews also used to blow nazi buses & cafes up on a daily basis?
> > ;L
>
> Boker Tov,
> bad comparison. Unlike the Jews in Palestine, the Germans (in Germany) were
> not brutal occupiers,
what jews occupy?
> and the german Jews had no reason to attack their fellow german citizens.
why?
> As far as the german army abroad is concerned, surely the Jews resisted as
> far as possible. Beside the fact that they had only limited means to carry
> out suicide bombings inside Germany or elsewhere against Germans, it would
> not make sense to - say -attack polish buses or cafes.
?
> But most important, why do you compare Jews with Nazis?
do i?
> Did´nt you find anything closer to the IDF (in behaviour) than the
> "Wehrmacht"?
the closest [in distance] to the idf is arafat..
Susan Maneck
>I have been questioning my Bahai friends and it's strange how lost for
>words they are on this occasion.
>
Dear P,
The reason they are at a loss for words is that most of them have never heard
such a thing so they have no idea how to respond.
>Where a simple denial would have sufficed, there is silence.
When I myself heard of it some nine months ago I contacted the Baha'i External
Ariamehr
label someone a Jew, then they go with the Bahai. I don't think any person
but a Muslim can support a crazy terrorist Muslim like Arafat .
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Pat Kohli
Pacifist wrote:
> "Freethought110" <freetho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:83b59396.0309...@posting.google.com
>
> > So much for the baha'i principle of non-involvement in politics! Yet
> > again more evidence of baha'i hypocrisy. No wonder Arafat was ready to
> > get rid of him. Abu Mazen, by virtue of his baha'i affiliation,
> > would've been quite ready to sell the Palestinian down the drain.
>
> I have been questioning my Bahai friends and it's strange how lost for
> words they are on this occasion.
>
It takes a while to ask about. Many Baha'is do not know all of the other
Baha'is, yet.
>
> Where a simple denial would have sufficed,
There was a denial, some time back.
> there is silence.
Not complete silence. Some still repeat the Mossad story, even when Mossad
has given up on it.
"Did Sharon buy the revelation from the ex-Mossad chief
that Abu Mazen won't be able to fill Arafat's shoes,
"because of his Bahai background," - which would be like
naming a Samaritan as president of Israel. The ex-Mossad
chief's mistake lay in Abu Mazen's family name, Abbas,
which is like Abbas Effendi, one of the founders of the
Bahai faith. At Abu Mazen's request, Yedioth published a
correction."
http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId=1836&CategoryId=5
Freethought110
from a MOSSAD agent after he spilled the beans to the press the first
time around. No member of MOSSAD is as stupid and uninformed to get
information like this wrong the first time. It is their business to
know these things and MOSSAD is not as incompetent an intelligence
establishment as the CIA.
Put up or shut up, you said you contacted the External Affairs
department of your cult about Abbas. I want to hear an unequivocal
"Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) is not a baha'i" from the uhj itself posted
right here! Until then, this is yet more proof that you cultists are
hand-in-glove lackeys of the Zionists and are little more than a tool
in the hands of this despicable fascist apartheid entity colonizing
Palestine, therefore proving beyond a shadow of a doubt that the
mullahs are absolutely right about you: you are agents of Zionism,
agents of imperialism and agents of the great arrogant powers (Amel-e
Estekbar, Amel-e Sahyunist, Amel-e Estem'ar)!
Now where's the spin-doctoring on Mai Pederson Al-Sadat. You've all
been very quiet about her.
sma...@aol.com (Susan Maneck ) wrote in message news:<20030911234044...@mb-m28.aol.com>...
> >Mahmoud Abbas (Abu Mazen) has never denied being a baha'i.
>
> Obviously you haven't been following the thread very carefully. This is from
> one of the links Steve Marshall posted:
>
> "Did Sharon buy the revelation from the ex-Mossad chief that Abu Mazen won't be
> able to fill Arafat's shoes, "because of his Bahai background," - which would
> be like naming a Samaritan as president of Israel. The ex-Mossad chief's
> mistake lay in Abu Mazen's family name, Abbas, which is like Abbas Effendi, one
> of the founders of the Bahai faith. At Abu Mazen's request, Yedioth published a
> correction."
>
> Clearly he *did* deny it.
Freethought110
> "Freethought110" <freetho...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:83b59396.0309...@posting.google.com
>
> > So much for the baha'i principle of non-involvement in politics! Yet
> > again more evidence of baha'i hypocrisy. No wonder Arafat was ready to
> > get rid of him. Abu Mazen, by virtue of his baha'i affiliation,
> > would've been quite ready to sell the Palestinian down the drain.
>
> I have been questioning my Bahai friends and it's strange how lost for
> words they are on this occasion.
While you're at it ask them about baha'is Sabet Imani and Mai Pederson
Al-Sadat, her career as a spook for the US Defense Department, her
friendship with Dr David Kelly, her role in converting him to
baha'ism, her being fingered at the Hutton Inquiry, and see how even
more lost for words they will be.
> Where a simple denial would have sufficed, there is silence.
Absolutely! What are they going to say? These people have finally been
caught with their pants down showing they are truly the fifth
columnist agents of the most brutal colonialist power in the region
which has been claimed for a long time.
> This story might even be true.
I haven't seen anywhere where Abbas has denied the charge. And the
MOSSAD itself has goofed once, spilling the beans and fingering Abbas
as a baha'i, then they backpeddle. Yeah, right!
> P
Freethought110
> > mand...@aol.com (Lisa R.) wrote in message
> >
> > > Oh, but why would that matter to the tolerant folk on the West Bank?
> > > You see, they're on the verge on creating a democratic, pluralistic
> > > and secular
> > > "Izratine."
>
> > Kind of like the democratic, pluralistic and secular "Jewish"
> > apartheid state of the west of the West Bank, eh?
>
> so palibans ARE an apartheid bunch!?
No, you ZioNazis are.
>
> > > It will be a Lockean egalitarian paradise, featuring
> > > inviolable minority rights, especially for Jews.
>
> > Much like the Lockean egalitarian Jewish paradise featuring inviolable
> > minority rights for Palestinians, correct?
>
> the door's always open to their enlightened arab paradise ;L
> they somehow wouldn't leave tho..
Because it's their home, much more than yours, arrogant ZioNazi
dumbfuck -- you are the occupier!
Al-Kafir Al-Kabir
> Baha'is, yet.
Misdirection.
> >
> > Where a simple denial would have sufficed,
>
> There was a denial, some time back.
And the denial is totally disengenuous.
> > there is silence.
>
> Not complete silence. Some still repeat the Mossad story, even when Mossad
> has given up on it.
MOSSAD gave up on it because it obviously blew Abbas' cover.
> "Did Sharon buy the revelation from the ex-Mossad chief
> that Abu Mazen won't be able to fill Arafat's shoes,
> "because of his Bahai background," - which would be like
> naming a Samaritan as president of Israel. The ex-Mossad
> chief's mistake lay in Abu Mazen's family name, Abbas,
> which is like Abbas Effendi, one of the founders of the
> Bahai faith. At Abu Mazen's request, Yedioth published a
> correction."
> http://www.miftah.org/Display.cfm?DocId=1836&CategoryId=5
What utter crock and smokescreen! As if people are gullible enough to
believe that Mahmoud Abbas is the only person in the whole Arab world
with the last name "Abbas."
Al-Kafir Al-Kabir
Ever heard of the Warsaw ghetto uprising?
Al-Kafir Al-Kabir
the baha'is, yes, indeed!
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Al-Kafir Al-Kabir
> >
> >I have been questioning my Bahai friends and it's strange how lost for
> >words they are on this occasion.
> >
>
> Dear P,
>
> The reason they are at a loss for words is that most of them have never heard
> such a thing so they have no idea how to respond.
>
> >Where a simple denial would have sufficed, there is silence.
>
> When I myself heard of it some nine months ago I contacted the Baha'i External
> Affairs Office and was told in no uncertain terms that the man was not a Baha'i
Post their letter and the uhj's right *here*.
Susan Maneck
>but a Muslim can support a crazy terrorist Muslim like Arafat .
Dear Ariamehr,
I would hardly describe Arafat as a "crazy terrorist Muslim." Before the rise
of Hamas (which was sponsored by Mossad) the most terroristic wing of the PLO
was the FLP which was a Christian wing. Arafat himself, while nominally a
Muslim, is pretty much a secularist and when he is allowed to, he accompanies
his Christian wife to church each Christmas and Easter.
Darrick Evenson
show) thought Abu Mazen was going to be the end-times Anti-Christ,
because Nostradamus said the last Anti-Christ would be named "Mabus".
If you take MAzen and ABU, and they theorized his middle name began
with "S" you get "MABUS". A stretch, I know.
Being a "Baha'i" among Palestinians, he's probably been used to NOT
MENTIONING it, and basically keeping it a secret; not openly denying
it, but "hiding" it.
Darrick
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Susan Maneck
From: sma...@aol.com (Susan Maneck )
Date: 9/13/2003 1:36 AM Eastern Daylight Time
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> Being a "Baha'i" among Palestinians, he's probably been used to NOT
>MENTIONING it, and basically keeping it a secret; not openly denying
>it, but "hiding" it.
Darrick,
You are ignoring the fact that no evidence whatsoever has been produced to
proof he is a Baha'i. All we have if some allegations.
And he is most certainly not on the Baha'i rolls. Here is an account from
Haaretz.com regarding Abu Mazen:
He does not forget to ask that I write he is still awaiting an apology by
former Mossad chief Shabtai Shavit, who said in a newspaper interview that
Abbas belongs to the Bahai faith. Shavit explained at length in the interview
that a Bahai cannot become a Palestinian leader.
That false rumor has been lately disseminated by people with ill-will toward
Abbas. He is angry at The Jerusalem Post for prominently reporting that posters
claiming he is Bahai are appearing in Arab countries. "This is not the first
time that people spread that malicious rumor. I sued a Jordanian newspaper for
publishing it. Regrettably, the person I sued passed away before the court
ruled unequivocally that the report was false. I am a believing Muslim, son of
a family of believers, and committed to the religion's commandments."
http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=297637&contrassID=1
Susan Maneck
"To save Shavit and his sources the time and effort, I called Prof. Moshe
Sharon, who holds the Bahai Studies chair at the Hebrew University. He also
read the interview with Shavit, and he also raised an eyebrow. If the former
head of the Mossad had called an expert, maybe he wouldn't have been
embarrassed by disseminating baseless information.
Sharon: "It's impossible for Abu Mazen to be Bahai. First of all, if the Bahai
say someone isn't Bahai, then there's no chance they are. They know all their
members and they have complete rosters of their members. Secondly, according to
the Bahai religion, it is absolutely forbidden for a believer to live
permanently in the Land of Israel, between the Jordan River and the
Mediterranean. If you decide to be a Bahai, you have to immediately leave the
country (all the Bahai in Israel are temporary emissaries). Third, according to
the faith's founder, Baha-Allah (1817-1892), Bahai are prohibited from any
nationalistic political activity (as opposed to international frameworks). A
Bahai cannot be Arafat's deputy."
But to remove any doubt, Sharon emphasizes that one of the tenets of faith for
the religion says that a person is not born Bahai, and every believer must
"seek the truth" personally. Therefore, Abu Mazen can not be "the son of a
Bahai family that converted to Islam." And Bahaism, after all, is banned in all
Arab countries.
So, how did Abu Mazen end up being called a Bahai? The answer may be buried in
the Palestinian leader's name - Mahmoud Abbas. The original name of Abdul-Baha
("the servant of glory"), the great proselytizer of the Bahai faith worldwide,
was Abbas Effendi. So, maybe Abu Mazen is a descendant of that same Abbas
Effendi, for whom a street is named in Haifa? Nope. Sharon says that the Bahai
leader only had daughters, so there's no significance to the family name. Shugi
Effendi, the last Bahai leader, was the grandson of Abbas Effendi, through his
eldest daughter. Besides, Abbas is a common name among Persians.
Presumably, a slip by a retired defense establishment official, no matter how
senior, shouldn't be cause for concern. But Shavit is one of two people (the
other is former central bank governor Jacob Frenkel) with whom Prime Minister
Sharon often consults. He's the man who convinced Sharon on September 11 that
he should quickly dress up Arafat as bin Laden. Perhaps he "revealed" to the
prime minister that there's no danger Abu Mazen, "of Bahai background" will
fill Arafat's shoes in the international arena?"
ŠCopyright 2001, Ha'aretz
BTov
so how many buses & cafes had jews blown up during the warsaw ghetto uprising? ;L
Freethought110
They blew German military targetts. Maybe the Palestinians should do
more on that score, just like Hezbollah did in driving the IDF out of
southern Lebanon.
BTov
where did they blow german military targets? how many military
installations did they blow up in germany? ;L
> Maybe the Palestinians should do
> more on that score, just like Hezbollah did in driving the IDF out of
> southern Lebanon.
this arab bozo sheite nasralla's full of shit & lies as he's always
been..
barak's decision to serve clinton & leave lebanon had to be twisted
into the hizbulla victory because they didn't have much to proud about
except their butts sore from israeli boot kicks LOL
Pat Kohli
BTov wrote:
> freetho...@yahoo.com (Freethought110) wrote in message news:<83b59396.03091...@posting.google.com>...
> (snip)
> > > so how many buses & cafes had jews blown up during the warsaw ghetto uprising? ;L
> >
> > They blew German military targetts.
>
> where did they blow german military targets? how many military
> installations did they blow up in germany? ;L
>
> > Maybe the Palestinians should do
> > more on that score, just like Hezbollah did in driving the IDF out of
> > southern Lebanon.
>
> this arab bozo sheite nasralla's full of shit & lies as he's always
> been..
I don't see any Arab Shi'ite Bozo. Are you an Arab Shi'ite, or is there some other bozo you are describing as full of lies and
vinegar?
>
> barak's decision to serve clinton & leave lebanon had to be twisted
> into the hizbulla victory because they didn't have much to proud about
> except their butts sore from israeli boot kicks LOL
So it wasn't that they'd made a botch of it then, the IDF was just being generous, giving folks back their own country as a
mikvah? The West Bank will be a grand mikvah, when the IDF can pull the settlers out.
Matt A.00 01 is Matthew Ackerman
He is confusing the Warsaw Uprising where Jews did Kill a lot of German SS
soldiers expecting the Russian forces just outside the city to move in, and
the Balkin Resistance that many Jews Joined. The Russians stood still
outside the city till the uprising ended with many Jews Killed. The Balkin
Resistance did blow up troop and munition trains, raided bases and took out
the Germans in their offices and Barracks. Again a high percent if based
on the population of the areas of Jews did join that resistance movement.
They did not go into Germany and blow up busses, but constantly cut the
wires used for communications, blew up railway and street bridges, blew up
military trains and ambushed German Officers. In fact one of the reason
there were so many Jews within these Partisans as they were called, was that
the Jews that escaped Treblinka Death Camp in that uprising from within,
joined them in mass.
Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was the taking of the Ghetto and killing all the
German Storm Troopers within those walls then fighting a desperate battle to
stay off Tanks and a lot of German Soldiers. They used Molotovs on the
tanks and shot at the soldiers. Given that they did not have much to fight
with they sure made a mess for the Germans. Had the Russian Divissions
moved in as was thought the rebelion there would have succeeded and saved a
lot of Russian (our Allies) lives. They chose to wait till the Jews were
killed then the order came and they moved in and took the city in one day
with a lot of casualties. Russia did not want to save the Jews just as
America and Britain did not. They turned away the refugees back to their
deaths, all of these so nobel nations as they want to think themselves to
be.
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BTov
> BTov
> > > > so how many buses & cafes had jews blown up during the warsaw ghetto uprising? ;L
>
> > > They blew German military targetts.
> >
> > where did they blow german military targets? how many military
> > installations did they blow up in germany? ;L
> >
> > > Maybe the Palestinians should do
> > > more on that score, just like Hezbollah did in driving the IDF out of
> > > southern Lebanon.
> >
> > this arab bozo sheite nasralla's full of shit & lies as he's always
> > been..
>
> I don't see any Arab Shi'ite Bozo.
i do..he's called sheit nasrulla the one who looks like a hairy ass
which someone has wrapped in a black sheet & put glasses on it making
it a perfect sheethead
lol
> Are you an Arab Shi'ite, or is there some other bozo you are describing as full of lies and vinegar?
all of them are bozoZ..
> > barak's decision to serve clinton & leave lebanon had to be twisted
> > into the hizbulla victory because they didn't have much to proud about
> > except their butts sore from israeli boot kicks LOL
>
> So it wasn't that they'd made a botch of it then, the IDF was just being generous, giving folks back their own country as a
> mikvah? The West Bank will be a grand mikvah, when the IDF can pull the settlers out.
you're a bozo too..
the grand_whatever will be the comprehensive relocation of arabs for
their own good
i'm humane & think about their future to which pro arab hicks forgot
to give a thought ;L