Are Iranians caucasian ?
kac...@hair.com
pro...@discover-net.net (Naresh Purohit) wrote:
>I was just curious, are Iranians members of the white race, or are
>they similar to their arab neighbors-a blend of caucasian, mongoloid,
>and negroid elements. I'm not inclined to think that iranians are
>white, because they have dark skin, and black hair. Anyone have any
>ideas/opinions ?
>
Actually we are a cross between Japanease & Chinese!
Anonymous
pro...@discover-net.net (Naresh Purohit) wrote:
>I was just curious, are Iranians members of the white race, or are
>they similar to their arab neighbors-a blend of caucasian, mongoloid,
>and negroid elements. I'm not inclined to think that iranians are
>white, because they have dark skin, and black hair. Anyone have any
>ideas/opinions ?
>
Iran is a country at the crossroads between Europe, Asia, and Africa.
Some have even compared our country to the 'belly-button' of the world.
Having a 7000 years civilisation characterised as 'Aryan' from where
the name Iran is derived from 'Land of the Aryans' where Aryan stands
for the 'noble and free' one, our ancestors have been able to keep
Iran and the Iranian culture for us to pass on to the next generation.
The Aryans who emigrated to the Iranian plateau around 5000 years ago,
have for the most mixed with the local population. Note that it is
not proven that Aryans were originally blond and blue-eyed as the
Nazi's Goebels wanted all to believe.
Iran has also been invaded many times by different peoples, some 'Aryans',
some 'Semitic', some 'Mongoloid'. and they all have contributed
to Iran's DNA bank. However, we are all Iranians and even if some
of us might look arab or mongol to others, we all share a common
culture.
From your name, I suppose you are Indian. In India, the highest cast
known as the 'Berahman' (Brahmin) call themselves 'Aryans'. But if
you look closely, you can see from their features that in fact they
have very 'Caucasian' traits but their skin color ranges from very
fair to very dark (almost Dravidian).
Same as in Iran. You have people who can be very dark-skinned but
have very Caucasian features and some who are fair like myself. FYI,
I myself am very white, light-brown hair with green eyes and so are
my brothers and sisters.
But to answer to your question about being Caucasian or not. I would
say YES. The overwhelming majority of Iranians are Caucasian.
btw, the Caucasus has been Iranian land for a long time. When coming
to America, I didn't understand why these westerners would call
themselves 'Caucasian'. I thought Iranians were the only Caucasians.
Anyhow, I believe your question should be rephrased to: 'Are Europeans
Caucasians?'. Because we Iranians are the real Caucasians.
ArdabAn ArdabAnji ;)
Koorosh The Great
On Fri, 31 May 1996, Naresh Purohit wrote:
> I was just curious, are Iranians members of the white race, or are
> they similar to their arab neighbors-a blend of caucasian, mongoloid,
> and negroid elements. I'm not inclined to think that iranians are
> white, because they have dark skin, and black hair. Anyone have any
> ideas/opinions ?
>
We are the original whites. Dark skin + hair is as a result of perhaps
evolution in the hot climate, but there are many with blond hair and blue
eyes. We are completely separate from the semitic Arabs. Quite frankly,
however, it does not matter.
Sam.
Chen Xia
Greetings!
I agree with NOBODY!!!!! (The person whose SCI name is NOBODY!)
The first caucasians were Persians, many of them moved to Germany, and now
they're everywhere.
I think enough has been said about this.
Rasheed
Sina Mardani
In state of California we are considered caucasians but elsewhere..I guess
not. I think it all has to do with money!!
Sina
Chakavak
Yes, they are. Caucasian has three subfamilies: Nordic, Alpine and
Mediterrenean. Iranians belong to the Mediterrenean subgroup.
White is a misnomer. As you know White in this country, in a colloquial
way, refers to the Anglo Saxons, and other Western Europeans. It does not
include the Greeks, Italians, Jews and others, including the E. Europeans.
Are they not "white". The correct answer is that they are all Caucasian.
Iranians are solidly a member of this racial family, as are almost all
other mideasterners, both Jews and Arabs (they being of the Semitic ethnic
stock).
The sign of a caucasian person is not necessarily in the pigmentation of
his/her skin, rather in facial features.
Having said that, you could come across many peoples who could have
African (Negroid), Asiatic (Mongoloid) or rarely Australoid (Aboriginals)
features. In Iran, the Asiatic and Negroid features could be found in the
northwestern and southern parts of the country, respectively.
Got it?!
Comp...@jk-o.demon.co.uk
In article <4or2a3$i...@newsbf02.news.aol.com> chak...@aol.com "Chakavak"
writes:
> The sign of a caucasian person is not necessarily in the pigmentation of
> his/her skin, rather in facial features.
>
> Having said that, you could come across many peoples who could have
> African (Negroid), Asiatic (Mongoloid) or rarely Australoid (Aboriginals)
> features. In Iran, the Asiatic and Negroid features could be found in the
> northwestern and southern parts of the country, respectively.
As I understand it, Australian Aboriginals are nowadays seen to be a
subdivison of the Caucasian race! ( Maybe this development is partly
a result of the fact that their noble way of life spanning tens of
thousands of years is now recognized by scholars to such an extent
that it has become expedient for white supremacists to accept them
as their distant 'cousins'. )
--
Jens Kieffer-Olsen
It's time for the human race to enter the solar system.
-- Vice President Dan Quayle
Koorosh The Great
> Iranians are solidly a member of this racial family, as are almost all
> other mideasterners, both Jews and Arabs (they being of the Semitic ethnic
> stock).
I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
different from Semitic Arabs.
Sam.
Dariush Anooshfa
Anonymous (nob...@REPLAY.COM) wrote:
Salaam Ardaban :)
A wonderful and truely concise respond!
Thanks!
Dariush.
P.S.: Where did you learn how to write *this* way? :)
: pro...@discover-net.net (Naresh Purohit) wrote:
: >I was just curious, are Iranians members of the white race, or are
: >they similar to their arab neighbors-a blend of caucasian, mongoloid,
: >and negroid elements. I'm not inclined to think that iranians are
: >white, because they have dark skin, and black hair. Anyone have any
: >ideas/opinions ?
: >
: Iran is a country at the crossroads between Europe, Asia, and Africa.
: ArdabAn ArdabAnji ;)
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Chuck Stone
In article <4ooafp$g...@basement.replay.com>,
Very good response indeed. I wish you would post more articles.
Chuck
Arash
st...@toughguy.com (Chuck Stone) wrote :
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>Very good response indeed. I wish you would post more articles.
What? Are you crazy? Do you know who this son_of_a_bitch is? If you did, you
would have never made a comment like that.
Son_of_a_bitch va hezbollahi haroomzAdeh va shepeshoo nabAshid
Arash
>
>Chuck
>
Faryar Mansuri
Dear Stone,
As they say "DAMEMD GARM"...your response on race was brilliantly
concise...to the point.faryar mansuri NYC
Malfouf al-Makboos
Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
>I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
>different from Semitic Arabs.
BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had
their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
today are half Arab.
--
"What is best in life?
To crush your enemies, to possess what was theirs, and to
hear the lamentation of their women. That is best".
-Genghis Khan, Mongol Philosopher
Hamid Ganjineh
10233...@CompuServe.COM (Malfouf al-Makboos) wrote:
%Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
%>I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
%>different from Semitic Arabs.
%
% BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
%after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had
%their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
%today are half Arab.
Malkouft al-McBoobs,
(with large french fries)
As a half arab I'd like to inform
you that you are quarter Iranian.
Sleep well.
dAyi Hamid
P.S. What do you think the arabs
did after they conquered SCI?
habibollah valanejad
Malfouf al-Makboos <10233...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
>>I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
>>different from Semitic Arabs.
> BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
>after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago?
Perhaps the samething that Turks did to Arabs few hundred years ago ?:-)
These race talks are all nonsenses !
There is no difference between races. Humans are Humans no matter of their
races !
I get mad when I see someone is talking about races ! It doesn't make a
difference if someone is Arab, Persian, White, Black, Oritental
or ... People can only be judged by what they do.
Please think and stop these junk articles about races !
Habib (Mad at racist in this newsgroup)
>They "had
>their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
Arash
Good one dAyi Hamid, harf nadAri!!
this dAyi hamid is something else, ma-sha-llah
Arash
Dovvomin Irani
Hamid Ganjineh wrote:
>
> 10233...@CompuServe.COM (Malfouf al-Makboos) wrote:
> %Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
> %>I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
> %>different from Semitic Arabs.
> %
> % BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
> %after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had
> %their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
> %today are half Arab.
>
> Malkouft al-McBoobs,
> (with large french fries)
>
> As a half arab I'd like to inform
> you that you are quarter Iranian.
Half Arab....hmmmm....
Carolyn, you may wanna take a trip to Swiss...oops! I mean Switzerland.
You know, Arabs have really big "HARD drives!" ;-)
>
> Sleep well.
>
> dAyi Hamid
>
> P.S. What do you think the arabs
> did after they conquered SCI?
I thought the Baha'is conquered SCI! ;-)
Has the regime in SCI changed and "mA hanooz andar khame yek koocheim?!"
Dovvomin Irani
Kitty
Dovvomin Irani <id...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
>Hamid Ganjineh wrote:
>>
>> 10233...@CompuServe.COM (Malfouf al-Makboos) wrote:
>> %Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
>> %>I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
>> %>different from Semitic Arabs.
>> %
>> % BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
>> %after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had
>> %their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
>> %today are half Arab.
>>
>> Malkouft al-McBoobs,
>> (with large french fries)
>>
>> As a half arab I'd like to inform
>> you that you are quarter Iranian.
>
>Half Arab....hmmmm....
>Carolyn, you may wanna take a trip to Swiss...oops! I mean Switzerland.
>You know, Arabs have really big "HARD drives!" ;-)
Carolyn, please do NOT lower yourself to that level!
>
>>
>> Sleep well.
>>
>> dAyi Hamid
>>
>> P.S. What do you think the arabs
>> did after they conquered SCI?
>
>I thought the Baha'is conquered SCI! ;-)
I thought the four kalleh pooks took over after that!
>Has the regime in SCI changed and "mA hanooz andar khame yek koocheim?!"
Looks like it!
meow,
Kitty
>
>Dovvomin Irani
Kitty
Arash <ar...@MAILHOST.NET> wrote:
>Hamid Ganjineh <nga...@tell.ascom.ch> wrote:
>>
>>
>>10233...@CompuServe.COM (Malfouf al-Makboos) wrote:
>>%Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
>>%>I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
>>%>different from Semitic Arabs.
>>%
>>% BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
>>%after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had
>>%their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
>>%today are half Arab.
>>
>>
>>Malkouft al-McBoobs,
>>(with large french fries)
>>
>>As a half arab I'd like to inform
>>you that you are quarter Iranian.
>>
>>
>>dAyi Hamid
>>
>>
>>P.S. What do you think the arabs
>> did after they conquered SCI?
>>
>
>
>this dAyi hamid is something else, ma-sha-llah
>
>Arash
>
moment, moment ((c) dAyi asdollAh from dAyi jAn nApelon) How did we get
to be quarter Iranian? I thought I was fully Persian!
Persian bAshid,
Kitty
Patty Pooladi
Malfouf al-Makboos wrote:
"BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did after they
conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had their way" with the
Persian, with the result that all Iranians today are half Arab."
"Do you really think all 30,000 Moslem soldiers who invaded
Iran were a bunch of sick rapists? And they did the same thing as
the Serbs did with the Bosnian moslems? and if they really did it
why YOU glorify their actions? Why do you hate the Iranians so
much? Have you been raped or sexually molested in your chilhood?
May be by an Iranian?"
A real half Persian and half Arab
R. B.
Dovvomin Irani
> >>
> >> 10233...@CompuServe.COM (Malfouf al-Makboos) wrote:
> >> %Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
> >> %>I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
> >> %>different from Semitic Arabs.
> >> %
> >> % BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
> >> %after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had
> >> %their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
> >> %today are half Arab.
> >>
> >> Malkouft al-McBoobs,
> >> (with large french fries)
> >>
> >> As a half arab I'd like to inform
> >> you that you are quarter Iranian.
> >
> >Carolyn, you may wanna take a trip to Swiss...oops! I mean Switzerland.
> >You know, Arabs have really big "HARD drives!" ;-)
>
> Carolyn, please do NOT lower yourself to that level!
"Somebody stop me!"
I'll leave it to you to figure out the copyright holder! ;-)
> >
> >>
> >> Sleep well.
> >>
> >> dAyi Hamid
> >>
> >> P.S. What do you think the arabs
> >> did after they conquered SCI?
> >
> >I thought the Baha'is conquered SCI! ;-)
>
> I thought the four kalleh pooks took over after that!
Well, we tried, but we never got real power since we never had the power to
decide what articles were being posted to SCI! ;-)
>
> >Has the regime in SCI changed and "mA hanooz andar khame yek koocheim?!"
>
> Looks like it!
So, we are now under Arab rule?!
ey dAde bar mA, cherA keh
"nAderi peydA nakhAhad shod, omid,
kAshki eskandari peydA shavad!" (c) Akhavan Sales.
(in some books it is "kAvei peydA nakhAhad shod...")
If you remember, Nader-e zolyaminayn (A man with two right hands) was the first
to establish an idependent and strong government in Iran after the Arab conquest.
Unfortunately, I don't remember seeing any "nAder"s around SCI -- forget a nAder
with two right hands!! ;-) Maybe I should change my name to nAder! ;-) ;-)
Dovvomin Irani
>
> meow,
>
> Kitty
> >
> >Dovvomin Irani
Arash
PPoo...@gnn.com (Patty Pooladi) wrote:
I would like to second your opinion of this low-life. People who glorify rape
and murder (or fantacize about them) like this guy and that Artapaneh
Ananymouseh BinAmoos - I believe - have themselves been the victims of rape and
sexual abuse in their childhood. May God heal their wounds and direct them to
the right path.
Arash
Majhool al-Kabeer
Kitty wrote:
>moment, moment ((c) dAyi asdollAh from dAyi jAn nApelon) How did
>we get
>to be quarter Iranian? I thought I was fully Persian!
No, there are no "fully Persian" people left. After
the Arab soldiers conquered Persia, they made all the
Persian ladies, how shall I say it, spread their legs
for them, so all Persians are now really half Arab.
That's history, whether you like it or not.
Majhool al-Kabeer
>much? Have you been raped or sexually molested in your chilhood?
>
>May be by an Iranian?"
LOTS of child molesters in Iran, land of child molesters...
Persian sodomy is well known the world over.
Massoud Ajami
In article <4phl5l$cbu$1...@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>From: Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM>
>Subject: Re: Are Iranians caucasian ?
>Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:14:29 GMT
Let's see, are you talking about lizard eating Arabs? I doubt if they were
able to. Or perhaps you are talking about Islam soldiers? And I doubt if
they did.
But the condition of f... them and bury them, was well known in Arabia, and
that is the history, believe it or not!
Arash
Here is a joke (actually it was real) and it happened here in Ottawa, Canada
where a lot of lebanese brothers and sisters reside.
In the market (near downtown Ottawa) where the parking on friday nights is
really scarce and expensive this arab guy who was with his friends was looking
for parking, so he drives around and finds an empty spot in front of somebody's
house and decides to park there. So, he parks his car and comes out and asks
the owner of the house who happened to be near by: "Excuse me, can I bark
here?"
The owner (a white guy) replies: "ofcourse, you can bark anywhere!!"
Hope you guys enjoyed it.
Arash
Kitty
Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
>Kitty wrote:
>>moment, moment ((c) dAyi asdollAh from dAyi jAn nApelon) How did
>>we get
>>to be quarter Iranian? I thought I was fully Persian!
>
> No, there are no "fully Persian" people left. After
>the Arab soldiers conquered Persia, they made all the
>Persian ladies, how shall I say it, spread their legs
>for them, so all Persians are now really half Arab.
>That's history, whether you like it or not.
hmmmm, I don't agree with you on that one. You mean to say there is
*no one* left? that's not possible. What happened to the persian guys
who lived in that time period? did they not reproduce? Either way it
doesn't really matter. I'm Iranian and proud of it. whether it means
i'm half arab/turk/persian/ect... I'm still Iranian, and that's good
enough for me!;-);-);-)
Proud bAshid, (not racist)
Kitty
Yek Irani
Massoud Ajami wrote:
>
> In article <4phl5l$cbu$1...@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
> >From: Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM>
> >Subject: Re: Are Iranians caucasian ?
> >Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:14:29 GMT
>
> >>moment, moment ((c) dAyi asdollAh from dAyi jAn nApelon) How did
> >>we get
> >>to be quarter Iranian? I thought I was fully Persian!
>
> > No, there are no "fully Persian" people left. After
> >the Arab soldiers conquered Persia, they made all the
> >Persian ladies, how shall I say it, spread their legs
> >for them, so all Persians are now really half Arab.
> >That's history, whether you like it or not.
>
> able to. Or perhaps you are talking about Islam soldiers? And I doubt if
> they did.
>
> But the condition of f... them and bury them, was well known in Arabia, and
> that is the history, believe it or not!
Aghaaye Ajami, These are your Moslem brothers you are talking about :-)
Bogzareem ke agar vaaseye Salmaane khaen nabood hanooz khodeshoon o
Peyghambare beesavaadeshoon dokhtar khaak meekardand. Bogzareem. By the way
Mr. Majhool the unknown you wish Persians were half Arabs because you suffer
from a Major case of Self Heghaarat (Ostad Kojaayee ;-) Arabs owe their
entire existance to Persians.
Ravanshenaas bAShid
Yek Irani
Kitty
Whaat? you've obviously NEVER been to Iran! I was a child in Iran and I
think it's the best place for a child to be. Comparing it to America,
it's behesht! (no offence) Anyway, if you dislike Iran so much why are
you posting here?
brain washed nabAshid,
Kitty
habibollah valanejad
Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
>>much? Have you been raped or sexually molested in your chilhood?
>>
>>May be by an Iranian?"
>
> A tacit admission of something everyone already knows.
>LOTS of child molesters in Iran, land of child molesters...
>Persian sodomy is well known the world over.
I guess you don't have good memories from your last trip to Iran :-)
Oh, well ... I don't know maybe you enjoyed it :-)
Habib
Patty Pooladi
Majhool[Majnoon] Al-Kabeer[ek-biri] wrote:
"A tacit admission of something everyone already knows.
LOTS of child molesters in Iran, land of child molesters...
Persian sodomy is well known the world over."
Just answer these questions:
1- Do you really think all 30,000 moslem soldiers who invaded Iran
were a bunch of sick rapists? Yes or No
2- If the answer is yes, do you glorify their actions? Yes or No
3- If the answer is yes. Have you been raped or sexually molested
in your chilhood? Yes or No
You see these are the simple questions if you can not answer them
so the persian expression applied to you: You are ze beekh Arab!!!
By the way I am sure you are an Iraqi. How do I know?
Because there was NOT any counrty called Iraq before the second
world war II. When moslems invaded Persia, the present Iraq was
part of the Persian empire. and the people who lived over there
were speaking persian. The moslems invasion changed their language
and convert it to arabic. The Iraqi[ except the kurds, the turks,
and the assyrians who live in Iraq] are half persian and half arab.
That is why a lot of arab do not consider Iraqis as the real arab.
So some Iraqis like you have identity crisis. And the reason you
hate Iranians so much is because you actually hate yourself.
Get over it. Get a life. Don't bark at the SCI any more!!
^^^^
A real half persian and half arab
R.B.
Kitty
Oh my God! So I'm not the only one who thinks that? (about salman) I
always thought I was! This is so cool! someone else believes in what I
believe! This is so exciting! Yek Irani, you are indeed the ideal
persian man. I hope you're like this in real life too. I agree with
every word of what you said. And if zartoshties are all as intelegent,
open minded and great as you are... I'm going to become one. (at least
try to) You are so, so,... how can I put this? I'm speechless!
open minded, intlegent and great bAshid, (like yek Irani)
Kitty
>
>Ravanshenaas bAShid
>
>Yek Irani
Arash
>
> Oh my God! So I'm not the only one who thinks that? (about salman) I
> always thought I was! This is so cool! someone else believes in what I
> believe! This is so exciting! Yek Irani, you are indeed the ideal
> persian man. I hope you're like this in real life too. I agree with
> every word of what you said. And if zartoshties are all as intelegent,
> open minded and great as you are... I'm going to become one. (at least
> try to) You are so, so,... how can I put this? I'm speechless!
>
> open minded, intlegent and great bAshid, (like yek Irani)
>
> Kitty
> >
> >Ravanshenaas bAShid
> >
> >Yek Irani
Chi shod? mA nafahmidim! you think everyone who agrees with you is
intelligen, open minded and great? Ideal persian man? what's going on
here? AghA Yek, shomA kheily teezee, beh mA ham yeh khordeh yAd bedeh.
Arash
Scott
Majnoon al-Kabeer wrote:
>
> >much? Have you been raped or sexually molested in your chilhood?
> >
> >May be by an Iranian?"
>
> LOTS of child molesters in Iran, land of child molesters...
At least they didn't give the world a child-molesting prophet who
married a nine-year-old girl.
> Persian sodomy is well known the world over.
And Arab sodomy isn't? Consider Thailand. Do you know that when a
Thai whore offers anal sex, she will often say "You want it Kuwaiti
style?"
Scott.
Scott
Majhool al-Kabeer wrote:
>
> Kitty wrote:
> >moment, moment ((c) dAyi asdollAh from dAyi jAn nApelon) How did
> >we get
> >to be quarter Iranian? I thought I was fully Persian!
>
> No, there are no "fully Persian" people left. After
> the Arab soldiers conquered Persia, they made all the
> Persian ladies, how shall I say it, spread their legs
> for them, so all Persians are now really half Arab.
> That's history, whether you like it or not.
I didn't realise that so many Arabs took pride in rape. I hope
you are not a representative sample of your countrymen.
Scott.
Koorosh The Great
ARAB-E-KHAR NEVESHT:
> No, there are no "fully Persian" people left. After
> the Arab soldiers conquered Persia, they made all the
> Persian ladies, how shall I say it, spread their legs
> for them, so all Persians are now really half Arab.
> That's history, whether you like it or not.
If you think it is true (which it isn't) and you are proud of it, then
that only shows the capacity of your braincell and the civilisation of
the arab people, who, I remind you again, were barbarous wild
subservient desert nomads. God made you powerful to preach Islam (and
even now you've got it wrong - Persians are rightfully Shiah). How did he
do it? By mysteriously making the poor weak "armies" of arabia defeat the
most powerful nation on earth - Sassanid Persia. That's where you got
your civilisation and power from. It was God given for the purpose of Islam.
So this is just another example of how Persians civilised another nation.
We civilised you arabs from weak nomads to super-civilised world conquering
warriors. The Persian power lives to this day. The so-called East-West
conflict or Muslim-Christian conflict is basically just an extension of
the Persia-Rome conflicts of old. Isn't it funny that apart from distant
contries like Morocco and the arabian desert, the Islam boarder runs
basically around the old Persian empire of the Achaemenians. From Greece
to Egypt to Russia to India.
As for fully Persians being left, there are no "fully" anyone left. The
world has mixed around so many times that you could say that about
anyone. I am 100% fully Persian because I'm Aryan, and most of all,
because I think I am and feel I am.
Sam, the Pure Persian.
Yek Irani
Arash wrote:
Arash jaan, baabaa dooroogh cheraa taa ghab haa haa haa :-) Man baa kitty
khaanoom agreement o disagreementee nadaareem. I am flattered by her
statement. But don't think of myself as ideal anything. I am just one, like
any one else. I just have more computers than most people :-)
Kaampeeyooter Daar bAshid :-)
Yek Irani
Kitty
Arash <ar...@MAILHOST.NET> wrote:
>>
>> Oh my God! So I'm not the only one who thinks that? (about salman) I
>> always thought I was! This is so cool! someone else believes in what I
>> believe! This is so exciting! Yek Irani, you are indeed the ideal
>> persian man. I hope you're like this in real life too. I agree with
>> every word of what you said. And if zartoshties are all as intelegent,
>> open minded and great as you are... I'm going to become one. (at least
>> try to) You are so, so,... how can I put this? I'm speechless!
>>
>> open minded, intlegent and great bAshid, (like yek Irani)
>>
>> Kitty
>> >
>> >Ravanshenaas bAShid
>> >
>> >Yek Irani
>
>
>Chi shod? mA nafahmidim! you think everyone who agrees with you is
>intelligen, open minded and great? Ideal persian man? what's going on
>here? AghA Yek, shomA kheily teezee, beh mA ham yeh khordeh yAd bedeh.
>
>Arash
I think I got a bit too excited! I don't think yek Irani apriciates this
very much! I better apoligize before it's too late! Yek Irani, sorry! I
did it again! (being a kalleh shagh!)
Arash,
No I don't think anyone who agrees with me is right. It was the fact of
non-racism, non-sexism, and great nationalism made me go crazy! I
don't know how to explain it to you...
explainer bAshid,
Kitty
Dovvomin Irani
Arash wrote:
>
> >
> > Oh my God! So I'm not the only one who thinks that? (about salman) I
> > always thought I was! This is so cool! someone else believes in what I
> > believe! This is so exciting! Yek Irani, you are indeed the ideal
> > persian man. I hope you're like this in real life too. I agree with
> > every word of what you said. And if zartoshties are all as intelegent,
> > open minded and great as you are... I'm going to become one. (at least
> > try to) You are so, so,... how can I put this? I'm speechless!
> >
> > open minded, intlegent and great bAshid, (like yek Irani)
> >
> > Kitty
> > >
> > >Ravanshenaas bAShid
> > >
> > >Yek Irani
>
> Chi shod? mA nafahmidim! you think everyone who agrees with you is
> intelligen, open minded and great? Ideal persian man? what's going on
> here? AghA Yek, shomA kheily teezee, beh mA ham yeh khordeh yAd bedeh.
Arash jAn, last time I said something like this, I got a message telling me I
was full of it. So, watch out! ;-)
Dovvomin Irani
>
> Arash
Dovvomin Irani
Kitty wrote:
>
> Yek Irani <YekI...@ee.net> wrote:
> >Massoud Ajami wrote:
> >>
> >> In article <4phl5l$cbu$1...@mhafn.production.compuserve.com> Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> writes:
> >> >From: Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM>
> >> >Subject: Re: Are Iranians caucasian ?
> >> >Date: 10 Jun 1996 17:14:29 GMT
> >>
> >> >>moment, moment ((c) dAyi asdollAh from dAyi jAn nApelon) How did
> >> >>we get
> >> >>to be quarter Iranian? I thought I was fully Persian!
> >>
> >> >the Arab soldiers conquered Persia, they made all the
> >> >Persian ladies, how shall I say it, spread their legs
> >> >for them, so all Persians are now really half Arab.
> >> >That's history, whether you like it or not.
> >>
> >> able to. Or perhaps you are talking about Islam soldiers? And I doubt if
> >> they did.
> >>
> >> But the condition of f... them and bury them, was well known in Arabia, and
> >> that is the history, believe it or not!
> >
> >Aghaaye Ajami, These are your Moslem brothers you are talking about :-)
> >Bogzareem ke agar vaaseye Salmaane khaen nabood hanooz khodeshoon o
> >Peyghambare beesavaadeshoon dokhtar khaak meekardand. Bogzareem.
Yek jAn, I have to disagree with you on this. No matter how rediculous Islam
is, Muhammad's intellegence cannot be questioned...
> > By the way
> >Mr. Majhool the unknown you wish Persians were half Arabs because you suffer
> >from a Major case of Self Heghaarat (Ostad Kojaayee ;-) Arabs owe their
> >entire existance to Persians.
And Yek jAn, what is wrong with being half Arab? I don't mind having Arab,
Greek, or Mongolian blood in me. I honestly could not care less about that! We
are not horses. We are humans. All that matters is that we are humans. Arab r
Turk or Persian is of secondary importance.
ensAn-doost bAshid!
Dovvomin Irani
Terita Parsi
Majhool al-Kabeer wrote:
>
> >much? Have you been raped or sexually molested in your chilhood?
> >
> >May be by an Iranian?"
>
> A tacit admission of something everyone already knows.
> LOTS of child molesters in Iran, land of child molesters...
No. Historicly incorrect. As you probably are aware- arabs were just as
fond of the so called "boy-love" as its inventors the Greeks.
Now I am not interested in another war with the arabs- we've had too
many and it hasnt led to anything positive for neither of us. I am more
interested in peace. But you have to accept the fact that we are not
arabs without taking that as an insult from us. We simply arent arabs
and there is nothing we can or want to do to change that. You are in no
position to feel insulted by that.
Too many people take us for arabs and we get tired of that and
eventually one looses ones patience.
Now I hope this mess is cleared up and that noone will insult arabs or
iranians anymore.
Terita Parsi
Zende bAd IrAn
Koorosh The Great
On 7 Jun 1996, Malfouf al-Makboos wrote:
> Kuroosh the not-so-Great wrote:
> >I don't know where you got this from. Iranians are 100% racially
> >different from Semitic Arabs.
>
> BULL SHIT!!! What do you think the Arab soldiers did
> after they conquered Persia 1300 years ago? They "had
> their way" with the Persian, with the result that all Iranians
> today are half Arab.
Hello Malfouf al-Makboos ul-Walakala ibn-i-kilbiharafu al-arab
I'd sooner die than call myself an Arab.
Persians are Persian. We are racially completely different from you
semitic Arabs. We are mostly Aryan. You may have introduced Islam to us,
and we are eternally grateful for that, and preached for a while and there may
have been some cross-breeding but that doesn't mean Persians are anything
to do with Arabs racially. Those who are half Arab are not fully Persian but
half Arab.
We are not only racially different, but we were civilised thousands of
years before you while you were burying live baby girls beneath the sand.
Persians have always shown hospitality to foreigners. If I had my way, I
would be tempted to ethnically cleanse Persia of Arabs, and only allow
the use of fully Persian words, and invite the Parsees back. Count
yourselves lucky.
Sam.
Kitty
Dovvomin Irani <id...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
>Arash wrote:
>>
>> <snip>
>>
>> Chi shod? mA nafahmidim! you think everyone who agrees with you is
>> intelligen, open minded and great? Ideal persian man? what's going on
>> here? AghA Yek, shomA kheily teezee, beh mA ham yeh khordeh yAd bedeh.
>
>Arash jAn, last time I said something like this, I got a message telling me I
>was full of it. So, watch out! ;-)
when was that?
Kitty
>
>Dovvomin Irani
>
>>
>> Arash
Massoud Ajami
In article <4pnh8u$c...@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Kitty <.> writes:
>From: Kitty <.>
>Subject: Re: Are Iranians caucasian ?
>No I don't think anyone who agrees with me is right. It was the fact of
>non-racism, non-sexism, and great nationalism made me go crazy! I
>don't know how to explain it to you...
>explainer bAshid,
>Kitty
Excuse me Kitty khanoom, the guy who is proponent of freedom of religion and
all that jazz, called a man "khAen" because he (the man) did not wanted to
be a fire worshipper, and stay "gabr." What was the big deal to go crazy?
marg khoobe ammA barAye hamsAyeh?
--
Peace and Prosperity!
---==< 110 >==---
Kitty
Massou...@sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami) wrote:
>In article <4pnh8u$c...@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Kitty <.> writes:
>>From: Kitty <.>
>>Subject: Re: Are Iranians caucasian ?
>>Date: 12 Jun 1996 22:44:46 GMT
>
>>No I don't think anyone who agrees with me is right. It was the fact of
>>non-racism, non-sexism, and great nationalism made me go crazy! I
>>don't know how to explain it to you...
>
>>explainer bAshid,
>
>>Kitty
>
>Excuse me Kitty khanoom, the guy who is proponent of freedom of religion and
>all that jazz, called a man "khAen" because he (the man) did not wanted to
>be a fire worshipper, and stay "gabr." What was the big deal to go crazy?
well, you see. Muhammad might have been very smart. But he certainly did
not come up with the whole idea of Islam. My opinion is that Muhammad
was a very 'restless' guy. he traveled alot and learned from jews and
christians. But his main learning in order to make Islam was from
SalmAn. SalmAn obviously knew alot about zartosht and zartoshties, so he
told Muhammad and Muhammad changed them to his benefit, then wrote them
down as Quran. The peaces of puzzle fit together perfectly. And zartoshties do not worship fire, they worship ahoora mazda.(if it makes
any difference to you)
>
>marg khoobe ammA barAye hamsAyeh?
If I must die, I will encounter darkness as a groom and hug it in my
arms. ((c) dictionary of quotes)
shAd bAshid,
Kitty
P.S. that's why I think zartoshty might be the *real* religon because
all other religons seem to have been copied from it. It sounds crazy but
it's my theory, and I'm hoping that someday it will be as famous as the
evolution theory!!!!!!! ;-) ;-)
Dovvomin Irani
When you and that other person (was it Purple?) gave Yek Irani compliments, I made
a comment similar to Arash's. And I got a response from that same person, (I think
it was Purple -- the person with the "Persian and Proud" signature) that told me
she couldn't understand how "an intelligent young man" like me, could write such
crap! :)
Do you remember? :)
Dovvomin Irani
>
> Kitty
> >
> >Dovvomin Irani
> >
> >>
> >> Arash
Kitty
heh heh, yes I do! It was funny! S/he was so right! how can you write so
much crap? Even I look good compared to you!!!! ;-)
Kitty
Alborz
bir...@sparcdii.derby.ac.uk (Scott) wrote:
>Majnoon al-Kabeer wrote:
>>
>> >much? Have you been raped or sexually molested in your chilhood?
>> >
>> >May be by an Iranian?"
>>
>> A tacit admission of something everyone already knows.
>> LOTS of child molesters in Iran, land of child molesters...
>
>married a nine-year-old girl.
>
>
>Thai whore offers anal sex, she will often say "You want it Kuwaiti
>style?"
>
>Scott.
Scott;
You sound just the same as that idiot who is trying to provoke us by his
stupid post. You are no better than him to rubish the religous feeling of
millions of Iranian who beleive in the same prophet.
If you are Iranian, then have some respect for your people and don't be
like "Khaleh Kherse", if you know what I mean.
And if you are not Iranian, keep your nose out!!
Al
Scott
In article <Dszut...@lboro.ac.uk>, Alborz says...
found Iranians to be eminently likeable. However, I will not keep my nose out.
Scott.
Yek Irani
Dovvomin Irani wrote:
>
> Kitty wrote:
> >
> > Yek Irani <YekI...@ee.net> wrote:
> > >Massoud Ajami wrote:
snip..
> > >Aghaaye Ajami, These are your Moslem brothers you are talking about :-)
> > >Bogzareem ke agar vaaseye Salmaane khaen nabood hanooz khodeshoon o
> > >Peyghambare beesavaadeshoon dokhtar khaak meekardand. Bogzareem.
>
> Yek jAn, I have to disagree with you on this.No matter how rediculous Islam
> is, Muhammad's intellegence cannot be questioned...
I suppose the same way Hitler's inteligence can not be questioned! I never
questions Muhamad's inteligence as I would not question Hitlers. The fact is
Muhamad's Religion is nothing more than a bunch of things taken from Torah,
Bible and Avesta. The other fact that even Arabs do not deny is that
Muhamad's religion owes a great deal to Salman Paarsee. However you will
find Mohamad's own signiture if you read Quran. You will find every other
page about hatred of people who are Jews or Kafar or this and that. It seems
his god is blood Thirsty Ahriman who condemns all who are not Moslems to
death and hell and even Moslems from all over the world are forced to pray to
this god in Arabic.
> > > By the way
> > >Mr. Majhool the unknown you wish Persians were half Arabs because you
> > >suffer from a Major case of Self Heghaarat (Ostad Kojaayee ;-) Arabs owe
> > >their entire existance to Persians.
>
> And Yek jAn, what is wrong with being half Arab? I don't mind having Arab,
> Greek, or Mongolian blood in me. I honestly could not care less about
> that! We are not horses. We are humans. All that matters is that we are
> humans. Arab or Turk or Persian is of secondary importance.
Idin you are making two wrong assumtions here. First I never said anything
about Muhamad's inteligence and second I also never said there was anything
wrong with being Arab or half Arab. I have seen this Anti Iranian guy's
previous posts and I was just observing that he perhaps insists (Very rudely
if I may say) that Iranians are half Arabs, because HE feels inferior to
Iranians. After all you don't see Iranians going around saying Arabs are half
Iranians. As far as human equality goes, azeez maa khodemoon rozeh khooneem
:-)
> ensAn-doost bAshid!
ensaane neek doost bAshid,
> Dovvomin Irani
Yek Irani
Scott
I'm sorry about what I wrote below. Something about the idiot's
postings and I just snapped. Muslims especially please accept my
apology for insulting your prophet.
That doesn't include you, Majnoon al-Sagheer. Sod off and evolve.
Scott.
Dovvomin Irani
Kitty wrote:
>
> Massou...@sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami) wrote:
> >In article <4pnh8u$c...@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Kitty <.> writes:
> >>From: Kitty <.>
> >>Subject: Re: Are Iranians caucasian ?
> >>Date: 12 Jun 1996 22:44:46 GMT
> >
> >>No I don't think anyone who agrees with me is right. It was the fact of
> >>non-racism, non-sexism, and great nationalism made me go crazy! I
> >>don't know how to explain it to you...
> >
> >>explainer bAshid,
> >
> >>Kitty
> >
> >Excuse me Kitty khanoom, the guy who is proponent of freedom of religion and
> >all that jazz, called a man "khAen" because he (the man) did not wanted to
> >be a fire worshipper, and stay "gabr." What was the big deal to go crazy?
>
> well, you see. Muhammad might have been very smart. But he certainly did
> not come up with the whole idea of Islam. My opinion is that Muhammad
> was a very 'restless' guy. he traveled alot and learned from jews and
> christians. But his main learning in order to make Islam was from
> SalmAn. SalmAn obviously knew alot about zartosht and zartoshties, so he
> told Muhammad and Muhammad changed them to his benefit, then wrote them
> down as Quran.
Kitty jAn, can you give a reference? This is the first time I hear such a
far-fetched thoery.... I've read many books about Muhammad's life, and this is the
first time that I hear someone say SalmAn was behind Quran!!
> The peaces of puzzle fit together perfectly. And zartoshties do not worship fire, they worship ahoora mazda.(if it makes
> any difference to you)
> >
> >marg khoobe ammA barAye hamsAyeh?
>
> If I must die, I will encounter darkness as a groom and hug it in my
> arms. ((c) dictionary of quotes)
>
> shAd bAshid,
>
> Kitty
>
> P.S. that's why I think zartoshty might be the *real* religon because
> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
Kitty jAn. :-(
Dovvomin Irani
Dovvomin Irani
Kitty wrote:
>
> Dovvomin Irani <id...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
> >Kitty wrote:
> >>
> >> Dovvomin Irani <id...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
> >> >Arash wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> <snip>
> >> >>
> >> >> Chi shod? mA nafahmidim! you think everyone who agrees with you is
> >> >> intelligen, open minded and great? Ideal persian man? what's going on
> >> >> here? AghA Yek, shomA kheily teezee, beh mA ham yeh khordeh yAd bedeh.
> >> >
> >> >Arash jAn, last time I said something like this, I got a message telling me I
> >> >was full of it. So, watch out! ;-)
> >>
> >> when was that?
> >
> >When you and that other person (was it Purple?) gave Yek Irani compliments, I made
> >a comment similar to Arash's. And I got a response from that same person, (I think
> >it was Purple -- the person with the "Persian and Proud" signature) that told me
> >she couldn't understand how "an intelligent young man" like me, could write such
> >crap! :)
> >Do you remember? :)
>
> heh heh, yes I do! It was funny! S/he was so right! how can you write so
> much crap?
It's not too hard... I am generally a crapy person.... I like crap.... give me any
subject, and I can relate it to either of these two subjects: sex, and gooz! That's
just the way my mind operates! ;-)
> Even I look good compared to you!!!! ;-)
Well, I don't know about that! We never saw a picture of you! ;-)
Dovvomin Irani
>
> Kitty
> >
> >Dovvomin Irani
> >
> >>
> >> Kitty
> >> >
> >> >Dovvomin Irani
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Arash
Majhool al-Kabeer
Yek Sag-e Irani wrote:
:Aghaaye Ajami, These are your Moslem brothers you are talking
:about :-)
:Bogzareem ke agar vaaseye Salmaane khaen nabood hanooz
:khodeshoon o
:Peyghambare beesavaadeshoon dokhtar khaak meekardand. Bogzareem.
:because you suffer
:from a Major case of Self Heghaarat (Ostad Kojaayee ;-) Arabs
:owe their
:entire existance to Persians.
:Ravanshenaas bAShid
:
:Yek Irani
Please stop all this farsi gobbledygook and write English
like normal people, or Arabic like better than normal
people.
Arabs owe their existence to Persians? HAHAHA.
You Persians are just lucky we didn't kill you all
instead of just enjoying your women.
Kitty
>> >In article <4pnh8u$c...@msunews.cl.msu.edu> Kitty <.> writes:
>> >>From: Kitty <.>
>> >>Subject: Re: Are Iranians caucasian ?
>> >>Date: 12 Jun 1996 22:44:46 GMT
>> >
>> >>No I don't think anyone who agrees with me is right. It was the fact of
>> >>non-racism, non-sexism, and great nationalism made me go crazy! I
>> >>don't know how to explain it to you...
>> >
>> >>explainer bAshid,
>> >
>> >>Kitty
>> >
>> >Excuse me Kitty khanoom, the guy who is proponent of freedom of religion and
>> >all that jazz, called a man "khAen" because he (the man) did not wanted to
>> >be a fire worshipper, and stay "gabr." What was the big deal to go crazy?
>>
>> well, you see. Muhammad might have been very smart. But he certainly did
>> not come up with the whole idea of Islam. My opinion is that Muhammad
>> was a very 'restless' guy. he traveled alot and learned from jews and
>> christians. But his main learning in order to make Islam was from
>> SalmAn. SalmAn obviously knew alot about zartosht and zartoshties, so he
>> told Muhammad and Muhammad changed them to his benefit, then wrote them
>> down as Quran.
>
>Kitty jAn, can you give a reference?
Nope, it's my own theory!
>This is the first time I hear such a
>far-fetched thoery.... I've read many books about Muhammad's life, and this is the
>first time that I hear someone say SalmAn was behind Quran!!
That's exactly why I got so excited when yek Irani said something alike
about SalmAn. I thought I was the only one with this theory!
>
>> The peaces of puzzle fit together perfectly. And zartoshties do not worship fire, they worship ahoora mazda.(if it makes
>> any difference to you)
>> >
>> >marg khoobe ammA barAye hamsAyeh?
>>
>> If I must die, I will encounter darkness as a groom and hug it in my
>> arms. ((c) dictionary of quotes)
>>
>> shAd bAshid,
>>
>> Kitty
>>
>> P.S. that's why I think zartoshty might be the *real* religon because
>> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
>
>Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
>Kitty jAn. :-(
Don't be, I'm still an agnostic. Notice the "might" in my statement above?
Besides, how do you suppose Zartosht came up with all these ideas?
agnostic bAshid,
Kitty
Yek Irani
> >>
> >> P.S. that's why I think zartoshty might be the *real* religon because
> >> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
> >
> >Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
> >Kitty jAn. :-(
Wait just one second dovvomin jaan, why are you so disappointed for some one raising a
question. If you take a religion history class in any college they will acknowledge the
Zoroastrian contribustion to Christinanity and Islam. That is a fact. Both Jesus and
Mohamad borrowed a great deal from Zoroastrianism and Iranians. They mixed that with the
tribal racist god of Jews and came up with their religions. That is undeniable and a
fact. Moslems borrowd the Bridge of Sarat directly even from Iranians. Christians
borrowed the concept of Good and Bad in place of Tribal God Yahooa. These are fact. In
the old testimont it is even writen that our founding father Koorosh freed the Jews from
Babylon by god's command which makes our king a prophet of god even according to
Christians. For the life of me I can not understand why that would disappoint an
Iranian.
Disappointed nabAshid
Yek Irani
Koorosh The Great
> > >> P.S. that's why I think zartoshty might be the *real* religon because
> > >> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
> > >
> > >Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
> > >Kitty jAn. :-(
>
> Wait just one second dovvomin jaan, why are you so disappointed for some one raising a
> question. If you take a religion history class in any college they will acknowledge the
> Zoroastrian contribustion to Christinanity and Islam. That is a fact. Both Jesus and
> Mohamad borrowed a great deal from Zoroastrianism and Iranians. They mixed that with the
> tribal racist god of Jews and came up with their religions. That is undeniable and a
Why can you lot not realise that these religions are from the same God, meant
for different ages and places, as a long line of progressive revelation and are
therefore bound to have similarities. To say that one copied the other implies
that they are simply man made organisations. Use your heads.
Sam.
SKharazi
Aghaa Koroush, This may come as a suprise to you but religion is man's
attempt at explaining the big questions in life. Religion therefore (Any
Religion) is man made. Ashu Zartost was a person, so was Jesus (No matter
what mumbo jumbo Christians try to tell you) and so was Mohamad. The flaw
with your idea is that unlike natural things that often evolve. Man made
institutions such as religion and politics often degrade depending on the
person in charge. If a bad person becomes a leader or so called prophet
you will end up with a religion that is based on blood and hate the same
as if an evil man took over a government.
Spritual bAshid, valee Agaah bAshid
Idin joon
Yek Irani wrote:
>
> Kitty wrote:
> >
> > Dovvomin Irani <id...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
> > >Kitty wrote:snip...
> > >>
> > >> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
> > >
> > >Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
> > >Kitty jAn. :-(
>
> Wait just one second dovvomin jaan, why are you so disappointed for some one raising a
> question. If you take a religion history class in any college they will acknowledge the
> Zoroastrian contribustion to Christinanity and Islam. That is a fact. Both Jesus and
> Mohamad borrowed a great deal from Zoroastrianism and Iranians.
True, but Christianity and Islam are not the only religions. There are always the Jews,
and, of course, the Buddhists, Confusionists, .... Of course, there are similarities in
all of these religions, but to consider one of them _the_ original and the rest of them
"copies" sounds a bit rediculous to me.
> They mixed that with the
> tribal racist god of Jews and came up with their religions. That is undeniable and a
> fact. Moslems borrowd the Bridge of Sarat directly even from Iranians. Christians
> borrowed the concept of Good and Bad in place of Tribal God Yahooa. These are fact. In
> the old testimont it is even writen that our founding father Koorosh freed the Jews from
> Babylon by god's command which makes our king a prophet of god even according to
> Christians. For the life of me I can not understand why that would disappoint an
> Iranian.
These facts don't disappoint me... They don't particulary make me very proud either. I
was disappointed because of a very general [baseless] statement. :(
Dovvomin Irani
Idin joon
Koorosh The Great wrote:
>
> > > >> P.S. that's why I think zartoshty might be the *real* religon because
> > > >> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
> > > >
> > > >Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
> > > >Kitty jAn. :-(
> >
> > Wait just one second dovvomin jaan, why are you so disappointed for some one raising a
> > question. If you take a religion history class in any college they will acknowledge the
> > Zoroastrian contribustion to Christinanity and Islam. That is a fact. Both Jesus and
> > tribal racist god of Jews and came up with their religions. That is undeniable and a
>
> Why can you lot not realise that these religions are from the same God, meant
> for different ages and places, as a long line of progressive revelation and are
> therefore bound to have similarities. To say that one copied the other implies
> that they are simply man made organisations.
That is exactly what I am intending to imply!
> Use your heads.
O, I use the vacuum all the time! ;-)
Dovvomin Irani
>
> Sam.
Koorosh The Great
> Aghaa Koroush, This may come as a suprise to you but religion is man's
> attempt at explaining the big questions in life. Religion therefore (Any
> Religion) is man made. Ashu Zartost was a person, so was Jesus (No matter
> what mumbo jumbo Christians try to tell you) and so was Mohamad. The flaw
> with your idea is that unlike natural things that often evolve. Man made
> institutions such as religion and politics often degrade depending on the
> person in charge. If a bad person becomes a leader or so called prophet
> you will end up with a religion that is based on blood and hate the same
> as if an evil man took over a government.
>
> Kourosh wrote:
>
> >Why can you lot not realise that these religions are from the same God,
> meant
> >for different ages and places, as a long line of progressive revelation
> and are
> >therefore bound to have similarities. To say that one copied the other
> implies
> >that they are simply man made organisations. Use your heads.
>
> >Sam.
Aghaieh Kharazi, Jesus, Mohammad and Zoroaster were of course people, but
they shone the light of God like mirrors shining the sun. Religion is the
educator of mankind. Every now and then God sees it fit to"send down"
another manifestation to teach mankind.
Religions have not degraded. There are many religious people. People have
always been, and still are, being martyred for their profound belief in
religion. No man made institution would have such an effect. If indeed
Jesus was just trying to explain "the big questions in life" and just
wanted to have a say, I do not think he would make himself so humble, let
alone say things which would lead to him being hurt, and I certainly
don't think he would be nailed to a cross to die simply to stand by his
"explanations". Lastly, his simple words would not be remembered and
preached by millions of people two thousand years after him. The same goes
for other manifestations.
Sam.
Kitty
Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
Irooni irooni bemoon,
zaboone mAdary bekhoon,
nasle mA nasle AryAst,
Iran eftekhAre mAst.
cheghad sheereene in zaboone farsi,
hich zabooni farsi nemishe rAsty... ((c) the boys)
Irani bAshid va be harfe in arabe khar goosh nadid,
Bahareh
Kitty
Idin joon <id...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
>Yek Irani wrote:
>>
>> Kitty wrote:
>> >
>> > Dovvomin Irani <id...@student.umass.edu> wrote:
>> > >Kitty wrote:snip...
>> > >>
>> > >> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
>> > >
>> > >Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
>> > >Kitty jAn. :-(
>>
>> Wait just one second dovvomin jaan, why are you so disappointed for some one raising a
>> question. If you take a religion history class in any college they will acknowledge the
>> Zoroastrian contribustion to Christinanity and Islam. That is a fact. Both Jesus and
>> Mohamad borrowed a great deal from Zoroastrianism and Iranians.
>
>and, of course, the Buddhists, Confusionists, .... Of course, there are similarities in
>all of these religions, but to consider one of them _the_ original and the rest of them
>"copies" sounds a bit rediculous to me.
There are three types of religon: 1) Monotheistic religons such as
jewism, christanity, ect... and Zartoshty is the *oldest* monotheistic
religon. Others have been copied from it. All are from the middle east.
2) Phylosophies from china, such as confusionism and douism... and
douism comes from confusionism (or the other way around, can't quiet
remember) 3) Religons of India such as Hinduism and Buddism and buddism
was copied from hinduism.
So we aren't saying that the other religons were copied from
zartoshties... just the monothiestic ones from the middle east (group 1)
>
>> They mixed that with the
>> tribal racist god of Jews and came up with their religions. That is undeniable and a
>> fact. Moslems borrowd the Bridge of Sarat directly even from Iranians. Christians
>> borrowed the concept of Good and Bad in place of Tribal God Yahooa. These are fact. In
>> the old testimont it is even writen that our founding father Koorosh freed the Jews from
>> Babylon by god's command which makes our king a prophet of god even according to
>> Christians. For the life of me I can not understand why that would disappoint an
>> Iranian.
>
>These facts don't disappoint me... They don't particulary make me very proud either. I
>was disappointed because of a very general [baseless] statement. :(
Don't tell me your statements are based on fact!
factor bAshid,
Kitty
Majnoon
Zendeh bAd Abolghasem Ferdowsi keh zabane Farsi rA tA abad bA
neveshtane ShahNameh Zendeh Kard.
Irani bAshid Arab NabAshid Farsi BedAnid
Majnoon Irani
Scott
In article <4puug9$1bo$2...@mhadf.production.compuserve.com>, Majhool says...
>
> Please stop all this farsi gobbledygook and write English
>like normal people, or Arabic like better than normal
>people.
> Arabs owe their existence to Persians? HAHAHA.
>You Persians are just lucky we didn't kill you all
>instead of just enjoying your women.
>
You Arabs are lucky we Westerners allowed you to remain alive. You probably
owe your existence to Western medicine, healthcare practices and obstetric
knowledge. Yes I'm talking about you, Ibn-al-Muqqawaf.
Enjoy the life we've given you, babyboomer, and learn some manners.
Scott.
~i~
Naresh Purohit wrote:
>
> Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Non of these Arab neighboring country have grown balls enough to stand up
to US. Iran is the only one so far that stood up the US imperialism and
got a way with it. Sadam was the US lap dog which was punished, now
eating shit in Bagdad.
I am not by anyway defending IRI, they are assholes but they seem to be
more our own asshole than the Shah was. IRI time will come to. Not all
Arabs are racist as the Majhool al-Kabeer. He is just gurgling shit here
and should be ignored. Iranians should be also aware of their racism and
try to cut it out.
Azad
Terita Parsi
Koorosh The Great wrote:
>
> > > >> P.S. that's why I think zartoshty might be the *real* religon because
> > > >> all other religons seem to have been copied from it.
> > > >
> > > >Absolutely no comment! I am terribly disappointed to hear such a statement from you
> > > >Kitty jAn. :-(
> >
> > Wait just one second dovvomin jaan, why are you so disappointed for some one raising a
> > question. If you take a religion history class in any college they will acknowledge the
> > Zoroastrian contribustion to Christinanity and Islam. That is a fact. Both Jesus and
> > tribal racist god of Jews and came up with their religions. That is undeniable and a
>
> Why can you lot not realise that these religions are from the same God, meant
> for different ages and places, as a long line of progressive revelation and are
> therefore bound to have similarities. To say that one copied the other implies
> that they are simply man made organisations. Use your heads.
>
> Sam.
No Sam,
saying this not mean that they all are man made- it only means that those who COPIED are man
made! Noone has said that Zoroatrianism is man made!!!!!
From your comennt I understand that you are Bahai. I also understand the bahais principl, but
how can you say that the blood thursty Jahve is the same God as Ahura Mazda??? One thing
bahais seem to lack is knowledge about their own Zoroastrian faith. The zoroastrian concept
of God is not an omnipotent God, God is the positive energy/force in the universe- in you and
me! From God ONLY good can come, since it is the source of ALL good. You can never compare
that with Jahve or Allah.
The Bahai philosophy is a very progressive and intelligent one, but it needs knowledge of
all other religions to be useful, without this essential knowledge it is useless.
Terita Parsi
Zende bAd IrAn
Terita Parsi
Alborz wrote:
>
> bir...@sparcdii.derby.ac.uk (Scott) wrote:
> >Majnoon al-Kabeer wrote:
> >>
> >> >much? Have you been raped or sexually molested in your chilhood?
> >> >
> >> >May be by an Iranian?"
> >>
> >> A tacit admission of something everyone already knows.
> >> LOTS of child molesters in Iran, land of child molesters...
> >
> >At least they didn't give the world a child-molesting prophet who
> >married a nine-year-old girl.
> >
> >> Persian sodomy is well known the world over.
> >
> >And Arab sodomy isn't? Consider Thailand. Do you know that when a
> >Thai whore offers anal sex, she will often say "You want it Kuwaiti
> >style?"
> >
> >Scott.
>
> You sound just the same as that idiot who is trying to provoke us by his
> stupid post. You are no better than him to rubish the religous feeling of
> millions of Iranian who beleive in the same prophet.
>
> If you are Iranian, then have some respect for your people and don't be
> like "Khaleh Kherse", if you know what I mean.
>
> And if you are not Iranian, keep your nose out!!
>
> Al
What has dear Scott said about Muhamad??????? This man has taken our
side against an intruding arab. He should be saluted. He has as far as I
know, not said a word about Muhamad!!!!
bache tehroon
Majhool al-Kabeer <10233...@CompuServe.COM> wrote:
...
> Please stop all this farsi gobbledygook and write English
>like normal people, or Arabic like better than normal
>people.
better than normal!!!!!!!!
ze shire shotor khordano soosmaar
arab raa residast jaaeei bekaar
be maili ziadat konad haayo hoo
tofoo bar to ey charkhe gardoon tofoo
--
daadaash
74277...@compuserve.com
In article <4q4lua$r...@news-e2d.gnn.com>, Rost...@gnn.com says...
Intersting for some one with half ARABIC name!!!!!!!!
Hamid Ganjineh
Rost...@gnn.com (Majnoon) wrote:
man fArsi nadAnest vali man fekr kard
%Zendeh bAd Abolghasem Ferdowsi keh zabane Farsi rA tA abad bA
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
%neveshtane ShahNameh Zendeh Kard.
^^^^^^^^^^^
yek meqdAr az nazare dasture zabAni dorost nabud.
% Irani bAshid Arab NabAshid Farsi BedAnid
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
!-)
Good one.
% Majnoon Irani
Binoon xAreji
ILTProd
Areh bAbA. We are caucasians. I don't know where the dark skin comes
from though.
Koorosh The Great
> > Please stop all this farsi gobbledygook and write English
> >like normal people, or Arabic like better than normal
> >people.
No, write in Arabic if you are Arabic. I do not mind. All races are welcome
here, as far as I am concerned.
> > Arabs owe their existence to Persians? HAHAHA.
> >You Persians are just lucky we didn't kill you all
> >instead of just enjoying your women.
Infact, you Arabs owe your existence to Persians. The great Achaemenid
and Parthian and Sassanid etc. Persian empires would have conquered
Arabia in a day. But who wanted to conquer a sand pit?
You were spared.
Plus, was it not for you mystically beating the most powerful empire on
earth - Sassanid Persia - with the help of God, perhaps, you would never
have learnt how to fight like world conquering warriors and you would
have never been civilised by us. You owe EVERYTHING to the Persians.
Don't forget that.
Sam.
Koorosh The Great
> > Why can you lot not realise that these religions are from the same God, meant
> > for different ages and places, as a long line of progressive revelation and are
> > therefore bound to have similarities. To say that one copied the other implies
> > that they are simply man made organisations. Use your heads.
> >
> > Sam.
>
> No Sam,
> saying this not mean that they all are man made- it only means that those
> who COPIED are man
> made! Noone has said that Zoroatrianism is man made!!!!!
> From your comennt I understand that you are Bahai. I also understand the bahais principl, but
> how can you say that the blood thursty Jahve is the same God as Ahura Mazda??? One thing
> bahais seem to lack is knowledge about their own Zoroastrian faith. The zoroastrian concept
> of God is not an omnipotent God, God is the positive energy/force in the universe- in you and
> me! From God ONLY good can come, since it is the source of ALL good. You can never compare
> that with Jahve or Allah.
> The Bahai philosophy is a very progressive and intelligent one, but it needs
> knowledge of
> all other religions to be useful, without this essential knowledge it is useless.
The writings of Zorastrianism say (somewhere) something like:
"....and when the Zorastrian people are banished and degraded,
the Shah Bahram will emerge...."
Check it out. Lo and behold! The Zorastrians banished and degraded by
Islam, and a new manifestation appears in Persia who is Persian and descended
from the Zoraostrian Sassanid kings. Hmmmmmm. Wonder who he could be?
Sam.
Farsani
Actually, all Iranians in the Middle East Region are true persians. The
reason is very simple. Any nation that had attacked Iran from any side of
the border had lost its women to Iranian men becasue its men either run
away or got killed. As a result, all these different nationality women
had Iranian kids in Iran.
Let,s stop this trash please.