American way of god worshipping : Eight dead in US Church massacre
Alborz
Eight dead in US Church massacre
Seven people have been shot dead and several others hurt by a gunman who
opened fire at a US church service.
The gunman shot and killed himself after the shooting spree.
The incident happened at about 1300 (1900 GMT) on Saturday at the Sheraton
Hotel in Brookfield, Wisconsin, where the service was regularly staged.
Four died at the scene and three others died later of their injuries, police
said. They ranged in age from teenagers to over-60s.
Police said they were not seeking anyone else in connection with the
shootings.
"There is nobody else being sought at this time as a suspect," Daniel
Tushaus of the Brookfield Police Department told the Associated Press news
agency.
Motive unclear
The gunman was described as a 45-year-old man who had been affiliated with
the Living Church of God, which met at the hotel every Saturday morning for
several years.
The group is an evangelical church that observes the Sabbath on Saturday,
not Sunday.
There was no immediate indication of a motive, Mr Tushaus said, adding that
police were searching the man's home in the nearby area of New Berlin.
Two boys aged 15 and 17, a 72-year-old man and a 55-year-old woman died at
the hotel. Three men ranging in age from 44 to 58 died later at a hospital,
AP reported.
Four others - two men, a 20 year-old woman and a 10-year-old girl - remained
in a serious condition in hospital.
Brookfield is a western suburb of the city of Milwaukee.
The Living Church of God says it operates in North and South America,
Europe, Asia, Africa, and Australia.
It has scores of ordained ministers and more than 200 congregations, it
says.
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/americas/4344359.stm
Published: 2005/03/13 08:20:10 GMT
© BBC MMV
sirknight67
up, while banging their foreheads against a rock (their god)!
Dirty mohammedan sons of whores you!
Alborz
there is nothing like mohammedan ,
there is islam , and moslems.
nobody worships mohammed .
and nobody in the world is such a fool to worship a stone.
just opposite to american Gun Christiany , in Islam is the peace (Salam)
the main principle.
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Behrouz
Take a course, imbecile, take a course!
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Susan Cohen
> Crazy , psycho Sirkkhare
>
> there is nothing like mohammedan ,
> there is islam , and moslems.
> nobody worships mohammed .
> and nobody in the world is such a fool to worship a stone.
Yes, you muslim pigs do. Its the stone of Abraham in the kibblat
at the very center of mecca. All you ragheads have to face it and
worship it. Looks like you retards still don't know what a metorite is.
Susan
P. Enzo
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Susan sweety, why join those who judge you by the thickness of your nipples,
depth of your boobs, lenght of your legs and the roundness of your butt. Do
as did this marvelous jewish woman who explains how she embraced Islam and
as a consequence wrote more than TWO DOZENS of books. Read........
Why I embraced Islam
by Maryum Jameelah (formerly Margaret Marcus), an American Jew who
convert to Islam in the late 1950's.
I trace the beginning of my interest in Islam when as a child of ten ,
while attending a reformed Jewish "Sunday School" , I became fascinated with
the historical relationship between the Jews an the Arabs. From my Jewish
textbooks, I learned that Abraham was the father of the Arabs as well as the
Jews. I read how centuries later when in medieval Europe, Christian
persecution made their lives intolerable, the Jews were welcomed in Muslim
Spain and that it was the magnanimity if this same Arabic-Islamic
civilization which stimulated Hebrew culture to reach its highest peak of
achievement. Totally unaware of the true nature of Zionism, I naively
thought that Jews were returning to Palestine to strengthen their close ties
of kinship in religion and culture with their Semitic cousins. Together I
believed that the Jews and Arabs would cooperate to attain another Golden
Age of culture in the Middle East.
Despite my fascination with the study of Jewish history, I was
extremely unhappy at the "Sunday School". At this time I identified strongly
with the Jewish people in Europe, then suffering a horrible fate under the
Nazis and I was shocked that none of my class-fellows nor their parents took
their religion seriously. During the services at the synagogue, the children
used to read comic strips hidden in their prayer books and laugh to scorn at
the rituals. The children were so noisy and disorderly that the teachers
couldn't discipline them and found it very difficult to conduct the classes.
At home the atmosphere for religious observance was scarcely more congenial.
My elder sister detested the "Sunday School" so much that my mother
literally had to drag her out of bed in the mornings and she never went
without the struggle of tears and hot words. Finally my parents were
exhausted and let her quit. On the Jewish holy days instead of attending
Synagogues and fasting on Yum Kipper, my sister and I were taken out of
school to picnics and gay parties in fine restaurants. When my sister and I
were convinced our parents how miserable we were both at the Sunday School
they joined agnostic, humanist organization known as the Ethical Cultural
Movement.
The Ethical Culture Movement was founded late in the 19th century by
Felix Adler. While studying for the rabbinate, Felix Adler grew convinced
that devotion to ethical values as relative and man-made, regarding and
supernaturalism or theology as irrelevant, constituted the only religion fit
for the modern world. I attended the Ethical Culture "Sunday School" each
week from the age of eleven until I graduated at fifteen. Here I grew into
complete accord with the ideas of the movement ad regarded all traditional,
organized religions with scorn.
Throughout my adolescence I remained under the influence of humanistic
philosophy until, after I began to mature intellectually and atheism no
longer satisfied me, I began a renewed search for my identity. For a time I
joined a bahai group in New York called the "The caravan of East and West"
under the leadership of a Persian by the name of Mirza Ahmed Sohrab (D.1958)
who told me that he had been the secretary of Abdul Baha, one of the
founders of the Bahai. Initially I was attracted to the Bahai because of its
Islamic origin and its preaching about the oneness of the mankind, but when
I discovered how miserably they had failed to implement this ideal, I left
them a year later bitterly disillusioned. When I was eighteen years old, I
became a member of the local branch of the religious Zionist youth movement
known as the Mizrachi Hatzair, but when I found out what the real nature of
Zionism was, which made hostility between Jews and Arabs irreconcilable, I
left several months later in disgust. When I was twenty and a student in New
York University , one of my elective courses was "Judaism in Islam". My
professor, Rabbi Abraham Issac Katsh, the head of the Department of Hebrew
Studies there, he spared no efforts to convince his students -- all Jews
many of whom aspired to become Rabbis-- that Islam was derived from Judaism.
Our textbook, written by him * took each verse from the Quran ,
painstakingly tracing it to its alleged Jewish source. Although his real aim
was to prove to his students the superiority of Judaism over Islam, he
convinced me diametrically the opposite. I was repelled by the
sub-ordination of the Hereafter, so vividly ported in the Holy Quran, to the
alleged divine right of the Jews to Palestine. The Jewish God in the Old
Testament and in the Jewish prayer book appeared to me distorted and
degraded into some kind of real estate agent ! The fusion of Parochial
nationalism with religion, I thought had spiritually impoverished Judaism
beyond redemption. The rigid exclusiveness of Judaism I felt had a great
deal of connection with the persecutions the Jews have suffered throughout
their history. I reflected that perhaps these tragedies wouldn't have
happened if the Jews had competed vigorously with other faiths for converts.
I soon discovered that Zionism was merely a combination of the racist,
tribalistic Judaism with modern secular nationalism. Zionism was further
discredited in my eyes when I learnt that few if any of the leaders of the
Zionism were observant Jews and that perhaps nowhere is orthodox,
traditional Judaism regarded with such intense contempt as in Israel. When I
found nearly all important Jewish leaders in America uncritical supporters
of Zionism who felt not the slightest twinge of conscience because of the
terrible injustice inflicted on the Palestinian Arabs, I could no longer
consider myself a Jew at heart.
One morning in November 1954, Professor Katsh during his lecture,
argued with irrefutable logic that the monotheism taught my Moses (PBUH) and
the Divine laws related to him at Sinai were indispensable as the basis for
all higher ethical values. If morals were purely man-made as the Ethical
Culture and other agnostic and atheistic philosophies taught then they could
be changed at will according to mere whim, convenience or circumstance. The
result would be utter chaos leading to individual and collective ruin.
Belief in the Hereafter as the Rabbis in the Talmud taught, argued Prof.
Katsh. was not mere wishful thinking but a moral necessity. Only those he
said who firmly believed that each of us will be summoned by God on judgment
Day to render a complete account of our life and rewarded or punished
accordingly, will possess the self-discipline to sacrifice transitory
pleasures and endure hardships and sacrifice to attain lasting good. While
Prof. Katsh was lecturing thus, I was comparing in my mind what I had read
in the Old Testament and the Talmud with what was taught in the Quran and
Hadith and finding Judaism so defective, I was converted to Islam.
Although I wanted to become a Muslim as far back as in 1954, my family
managed to argue me out of it. I was warned that Islam would complicate my
life because it is not like Judaism and Christianity, part of the American
scene. I was told that Islam would alienate me from my family and isolate me
from the community. At that time my faith wasn't sufficiently strong to
withstand these pressures. Partly as the result of my inner turmoil, I
became so ill that I had to discontinue college long before it was any time
for me to graduate so that I never earned any diploma. For the next two
years I remained at home under private medical care, steadily growing worse.
in desperation from 1957-1959, my parents confined me both to private and
public hospitals where I vowed that if I ever recovered sufficiently to be
discharged I would embrace Islam.
After I was allowed to return home, I investigated all the
opportunities to meet Muslims in New York City and it was my good fortune to
make the acquaintance of some of the finest men and women anyone could ever
hope to meet. I also began to write articles for Muslim magazines and carry
on an extensive correspondence with Muslim leaders all over the world. I
corresponded with the late Sheikh Abrahimi, the leader of the ulema in
Algeria, Dr, Muhammad El-Bahay of Al-Azhar, Dr. Mahmud F Hoballah , then the
director of the Islamic center in Washington D.C., Dr. Hameedullah of Paris,
Dr. Said Ramadan, the director of the Islamic center of Geneva, and Maulana
Sayyid Abul Ala Maudoodi.
Even before I formally embraced Islam, I found the integrity of the
faith in the contemporary world greatly threatened by the so-called
modernist movement which aimed at adulterating its teachings with man-made
philosophies and reforms. I was convinced that had these modernizers had
their way , nothing of the original would be left ! As a child I had
witnessed with my own eyes in my own family how the liberals had mutilated
what had once been a Divinely revealed faith. Having been born a Jew and
reared in a Jewish family ,I had seen how futile was the attempt to
reconcile religion with atheistic environment. "Reformed Judaism" not only
failed to check the cultural assimilation of the Jews I knew but actively
encouraged the process. As a result they had become Jews by label only. None
had any religion worthy of the name. Throughout my childhood, the
intellectual dishonesty, hypocrisy and superficiality of "reformed" Judaism
was a vivid experience. Even at that early age I knew that such a watered
down, half-hearted compromise could never hope to retain the loyalty of its
members, much less their children. How dismayed I was when I found among the
Muslims, the same threat! How shocked I was when I found certain scholars
and some political leaders within the Muslim community guilty of the
identical sins for which the God in our Holy Quran has vehemently denounced
the Jews! Convinced that God wouldn't spare us from calamity and doom us to
the same fate the Jews have suffered unless we sincerely repented and
changed our ways, I vowed that I would devote all my literary struggle to
combating this menace from within before it was too late.
Thus in his first letter to me of January 1961, Maulana Maudoodi
wrote:
"While I was scanning your essays. I felt as if I were reading my very
own ideas. I hope your feeling will be the same when you have the
opportunity to learn Urdu and study my books. And that despite the fact
there has been no previous acquaintance between you and me, this mutual
sympathy and unanimity in thought has resulted directly from the fact that
both of us have derived our inspiration from one and the same source-- Islam
"
MARYUM JAMEELAH's BOOKS:
1. ISLAM VERSUS THE WEST
2. ISLAM AND MODERNISM
3. ISLAM IN THEORY AND PRACTICE
4. ISLAM VERSUS AHL AL KITAB PAST AND PRESENT
5. AHMAD KHALIL
6. ISLAM AND ORIENTALISM
7. WESTERN CIVILIZATION CONDEMNED BY ITSELF
8. CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MAULANA MAUDOODI AND MARYUM JAMEELAH
9. ISLAM AND WESTERN SOCIETY
10. A MANIFESTO OF THE ISLAMIC MOVEMENT
11. IS WESTERN CIVILIZATION UNIVERSAL
12 WHO IS MAUDOODI ?
13 WHY I EMBRACED ISLAM
14 ISLAM AND THE MUSLIM WOMAN TODAY
15 ISLAM AND SOCIAL HABITS
16 ISLAMIC CULTURE IN THEORY AND PRACTICE
17 THREE GREAT ISLAMIC MOVEMENTS IN THE ARAB WORLD OF THE RECENT PAST
18 SHAIKH HASAN AL BANNA AND IKHWAN AL MUSLIMUN
19 A GREAT ISLAMIC MOVEMENT IN TURKEY
20 TWO MUJAHIDIN OF THE RECENT PAST AND THEIR STRUGGLE FOR FREEDOM
AGAINST FOREIGN RULE
21 THE GENERATION GAP ITS CAUSES AND CONSEQUENCES
22 WESTERNIZATION VERSUS MUSLIMS
23 WESTERNIZATION AND HUMAN WELFARE
24 MODERN TECHNOLOGY AND THE DEHUMANIZATION OF MAN
25 ISLAM AND MODERN MAN
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Greece: The Dark Side
by Rabbi Shimon Apisdorf
The Midrash compares the Greek exile to the darkness at the beginning
of creation.
"No other two races have set such a mark upon the world. Each of them
from angles so different have left us with the inheritance of its
genius and wisdom. No two cities have counted more with mankind than
Athens and Jerusalem. Personally, I have always been on the side of
both." - Sir Winston Churchill
In the Chanukah story, the Jewish people put up no resistance when
Alexander the Great's troops arrived. But they were quick to resist the
enlightening cultural forces that the Greeks brought with them.
Why? After all, the Jews were a people who revered education, literacy
and deep thinking. In this regard the Greeks should have been their
soul mates -- another enlightened people in an otherwise darkened
world.
PHILOSOPHICAL CLASH
Yet for all its beauty, Greek society was morally abhorrent to the
Jewish world view.
In Greek society it was common for parents to kill newborn infants.
Babies in Greece were routinely murdered by leaving them outside in a
clay jar to die from exposure and starvation. The reasons parents would
kill their children:
Too many mouths to feed
Too many heirs for a father to divide his estate amongst
Sickness and deformity (in a society that revered the beautiful form
of the human body)
Right behind infanticide on the list of what we today consider deviant
behavior was pederasty. (Today we call it child molestation.)
"In most Greek communities the women were kept at home, and men spent
their days with other men or boys. Artists paid special attention to
the nude masculine form; and pederasty abounded. It was far more
favored than homosexual relations between men and youths of the same
age, and indeed a whole philosophy was built up around the pederastic
situation, founded on the concept that the lover was the beloved's
educator and military trainer."
- "The Founders of the Western World: A History of Greece and Rome," by
Michael Grant
In Greece, the highest and purest form of love was something Jews
considered to be the most heinous of crimes!
The Jewish people have always placed the utmost value on human life,
and considered the relationship between a husband and a wife to be
holy. That's why when the Greek culture came, the Jews said: "No!"
THE GREEK EXILE
Jewish historians label the period during which the events of Chanukah
occurred as the "Greek exile." In the literal sense, however, no exile
ever took place -- not one Jew was banished from the Land of Israel!
Why then, do we refer to this period of history as exile?
The Midrash explains by comparing the Greek exile to the darkness at
the beginning of creation. The first two lines of Genesis read: "In the
beginning... the earth was empty... and darkness was upon the face of
the deep." God's exclamation "Let there be Light" (Genesis 1:3) then
banished the darkness. That was Day One.
But what exactly is this "Light" the Torah refers to? It cannot be
referring to the physical light we're accustomed to; the sun and moon
did not come into existence until Day Four!
This first "Light" must be understood as a reference to raw spiritual
energy. The Greek exile is therefore seen as comparable to a universe
lacking all spirituality -- a time of spiritual darkness immediately
before the light of God is released into the world. Indeed, the 25th
word of the Torah is Ohr -- "light" -- a reference to the 25th day of
Kislev, when Chanukah begins!
Chanukah pushes away the Greek darkness.
Adapted from "Chanukah - Eight Nights of Light, Eight Gifts for the
Soul," http://www.leviathanpress.com.
Adhabuhu
. Now when someone discusses such a topic it is important that all the
relevant material from the Qur'an and Hadith be examined. If all of the
material is not examined then one could form an unbalanced understanding of
the topic. My concern with Dr. Badawi's article is that he is quite
selective with the references that he gives. For there are references from
the Qur'an and Hadith which are significant to this discussion which he does
not mention at all. Please read the below references for a more complete
picture.
BEATING
And those (wives) you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to
their couches, and beat them. (Qur'an 4:34, Arberry)
Some translations of the Qur'an have tried to suggest that the word of
"beat" means to hit softly. However the same Arabic word is used in 8:12
which reads:
When thy Lord inspired the angels, (saying:) I am with you. So make those
who believe stand firm. I will throw fear into the hearts of those who
disbelieve. Then smite the necks and smite of them each finger. (Qur'an
8:12, Pickthall)
Here are some hadiths about wife beating.
Umar reported the Prophet as saying, "A man will not be asked about why he
beat his wife." (Mishkat Al-Masabih, p. 693: Abu Dawud and Ibn Majah)
... Umar then came forward, and when he had asked and had been granted
permission he found the Prophet sitting sad and silent with his wives around
him. He told that he decided to say something which would make the Prophet
laugh, so he said, "Messenger of God, I wish you had seen the daughter of
Kharija when she asked me for extra money and I got up and slapped her on
the neck." God's messenger laughed and said, "They are around me as you see
asking for extra money." Abu Bakr then got up, went to A'isha and slapped
her on the neck, and Umar did the same to Hafsa ... (Mishkat Al-Masabih, p.
690: Muslim)
Iyas b. Abdullah reported God's messenger as saying, "Do not beat God's
handmaidens" but when Umar came to God's messenger and said, "The women have
become emboldened towards their husbands", he gave licence to beat them.
Then many women went round God's messenger's family complaining of their
husbands. Those are not the best among you. (Mishkat Al-Masabih, p. 692: Abu
Dawud, Ibn Majah, and Darimi)
Muhammad beat his wives.
... He (Muhammad b. Qais) then reported that it was 'A'isha who had
narrated this: Should I not narrate to you about myself and about the
Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)? We said: Yes. She said: When it
was my turn for Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) to spend the night
with me, he turned his side, put on his mantle and took off his shoes and
placed them near his feet, and spread the corner of his shawl on his bed and
then lay down till he thought that I had gone to sleep. He took hold of his
mantle slowly and put on the shoes slowly, and opened the door and went out
and then closed it lightly. I covered my head, put on my veil and tightened
my waist wrapper, and then went out following his steps till he reached
Baqi'. He stood there and he stood for a long time. He then lifted his hands
three times, and then returned and I also returned. He hastened his steps
and I also hastened my steps. He ran and I too ran. He came (to the house)
and I also came (to the house). I, however, preceded him and I entered (the
house), and as I lay down in the bed, he (the Holy Prophet) entered the
(house), and said: Why is it, O 'A'isha, that you are out of breath? I said:
There is nothing. He said: Tell me or the Subtle and the Aware would inform
me. I said: Messenger of Allah, may my father and mother be ransom for you,
and then I told him (the whole story). He said: Was it the darkness (of your
shadow) that I saw in front of me? I said: Yes. He struck me on the chest
which caused me pain, and then said: Did you think that Allah and His
Apostle would deal unjustly? ... (Muslim: book 4, hadith 2127)
SATISFYING THE HUSBAND'S SEXUAL DESIRES
The Qur'an, speaking figuratively about sex, says of women:
Women are your fields: go, then, into your fields whence you please. (Qur'an
2:223 Dawood)
Muhammad gave strong warnings to women who would not accommodate their
husbands/masters desire.
Talq b. `Ali reported God's messenger as saying, "When a man calls his
wife to satisfy his desire she must go to him even if she is occupied at the
oven." (Mishkat Al-Masabih, p. 691: Tirmidhi)
Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet (p.) said, "if a man invites his wive to
sleep with him an she refuses to come to him, then angels send their curses
on her till morning." (Bukhari, vol. 7, hadith 121, p. 93)
VIRGIN WOMEN ARE A REWARD IN HEAVEN
Lo! those who kept their duty will be in a place secure amid gardens and
water-springs, attired in silk and silk embroidery, facing one another. Even
so (it will be). And we shall wed them unto fair ones with wide, lovely
eyes. (Qur'an 44:51-54, Pickthall)
Surely for the godfearing awaits a place of security, gardens and
vineyards and maidens with swelling breasts, like of age, and a cup
overflowing. (Qur'an 78:31-33, Arberry)
Perfectly We formed them, perfect, and We made them spotless virgins,
chastely amorous, like of age for the Companions of the Right. (Qur'an
56:34-35 Arberry)
Mu`adh reported God's messenger as saying that no woman annoys her husband
in this world without his wife among the large-eyed maidens saying, "You
must not annoy him. God curse you! He is only a passing guest with you and
is about to leave you to come to us." (Mishkat Al-Masabih, p. 691: Tirmidh
and Ibn Majah)
MENTAL CAPACITY
The Qur'an says that the testimony of a woman is not equal to that of a man.
It says that the testimony of two women is required to be equal to the
testimony of one man.
Call in two male witnesses from among you, but if two men cannot be found,
then one man and two women whom you judge fit to act as witnesses. (Qur'an
2:282 Dawood)
Why is it that the testimony of a woman is only worth half that of a man?
Muhammad explains in the following hadith.
Narrated Abu Said Al-Khudri: The Prophet (p.) said, "Isn't the witness of
a women equal to half that of a man?" The women said "yes". He said "This is
because of the deficiency of the women's mind." (Bukhari, vol. 3, hadith
826, p. 502)
THERE ARE MORE WOMEN IN HELL AND LESS IN HEAVEN
Ibn Abbas reported that Allah's Messenger said: I had a chance to look
into paradise and I found that majority of the people was poor and I looked
into the Fire and there I found the majority constituted by women. (Muslim,
vol. 4, hadith 6597, p. 1432).
Imran b. Husain reported that Allah's Messenger said: Amongst the inmates
of Paradise the women would form a minority. (Muslim, vol. 4, hadith 6600,
p. 1432)
CONCLUSION
Why did Dr. Jamal Badawi not mention these references in his article? I am
sure that you know why.
Adhabuhu
> Susan sweety, why join those who judge you by the thickness of your
nipples,
> depth of your boobs, lenght of your legs and the roundness of your butt.
My, you seem to have thought about her parts in depth...LOL...
Do
> as did this marvelous jewish woman who explains how she embraced Islam and
> as a consequence wrote more than TWO DOZENS of books. Read........
Does she explain why some Muslims consider it a sin for her to drive? Or
that other Muslims would like to lop off her clitoris?
Andy
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>
> "Susan Cohen" <flab...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1110769625.2...@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>> Alborz wrote:
>> > Crazy , psycho Sirkkhare
>> >
>> > there is nothing like mohammedan ,
>> > there is islam , and moslems.
>> > nobody worships mohammed .
>> > and nobody in the world is such a fool to worship a stone.
>>
>> Yes, you muslim pigs do. Its the stone of Abraham in the kibblat
>> at the very center of mecca. All you ragheads have to face it and
>> worship it. Looks like you retards still don't know what a metorite is.
>>
>> Susan
>
> Susan sweety, why join those who judge you by the thickness of your
> nipples,
> depth of your boobs, lenght of your legs and the roundness of your butt.
PERVERT !!!
(Hungry always about bread)
sma...@jam.rr.com
> Susan sweety, why join those who judge you by the thickness of your
nipples,
> depth of your boobs, lenght of your legs and the roundness of your
butt. Do
> as did this marvelous jewish woman who explains how she embraced
Islam and
> as a consequence wrote more than TWO DOZENS of books. Read........
Enzo,
I'm sure that kind of nasty talk *really* impresses her as how much
more respectful of women Muslims are.
NOT!
But your post which follows is rather intriquing:
For a time I
> joined a bahai group in New York called the "The caravan of East and
West"
> under the leadership of a Persian by the name of Mirza Ahmed Sohrab
(D.1958)
> who told me that he had been the secretary of Abdul Baha, one of the
> founders of the Bahai. Initially I was attracted to the Bahai because
of its
> Islamic origin and its preaching about the oneness of the mankind,
but when
> I discovered how miserably they had failed to implement this ideal, I
left
> them a year later bitterly disillusioned.
Ahmad Sohrab's organization, incidently, had broken away from the
mainstream Baha'i community. It no longer exists.
Susan
sma...@jam.rr.com
> Yes, you muslim pigs do. Its the stone of Abraham in the kibblat
> at the very center of mecca. All you ragheads have to face it and
> worship it. Looks like you retards still don't know what a metorite
is.
And do Jews worship a wall in Jerusalem?
Susan Cohen
Its all that remains of the temple after you muslim pigs defiled it
by building a mosque on top of it. You pull that defiling shit
everywhere, don't you? I know in India, the Hindus got so mad
about you defiling a Hindu temple they pulled down the mosque
and put the temple back up. You've also defined churches in
Constantinople and Damascus.
Susan
Mirza Ghalib
(1) in a US jail, on charges of sabotage and terrorism
(2) dead, in Afghanistan, as a late Mujahedin
(3) working in a sleasy fast food joint
(4) pimping on the streets of Chicago