PERSIAN NAME
Corine Chalard
Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a persian firstname.
Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
Thank you very much.
Starfish
- Sheila
- Naseem
- Heshmat
- Halimeh
- Belgheis
- Mahboobeh
- Latifeh
- Farrokh Lagha
cheers,
- Starfish
"Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
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Ali
I think the prettiest Persian girl's names are:
Anahita
Azadeh
Bahar
Bahareh
Darya
Shahrzad
ROSTAM
Happy Camper
Here are some of the names, I like, with their approximate
meanings(the ones, I think, I know, of course).
Roya = Dream
Hoori = Angel
Monir =
Parvin = Cheerful
Farrah = Joyful
Negah = Glance
Mojgan = Eye lashes
Pirayeh =
Shokuh = Glory
Maryam =
Mahnaz = mah(Moon) nAz(precious)
Mahshid = Moon and the Sun
Parvaneh = Butterfly
Sharareh = Sparks of Fire
Shabnam = Morning Dew
Get daddy to help you with the correct pronounciation.
English alphabet does not do justice to Persian words!
ROSTAM
Starfish <starfish@____.com> wrote in message
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Ali
I love this Name
ROSTAM <iza...@erols.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
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michelle
I've already dubbed Roya Shirini...sorry:)))))
Michelle
Sam Ghandchi
"Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
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Ali
to determine which is which. :)
Thanks,
Ali
Ali
wrote:
>How about Lili, GelAreh, Sara.
omg, the first two are horrible names.
Ali
Ali
>Most of the names that you have listed are not Persian.
I don't think it matters if it's Persian or not. It's Iranian for
sure though. I mean, many Iranians have those names.
Ali
Péman Malekzadeh
LeylA
MarjAn
Niki
Parvin
RoyA
RoxanA
RahA
TArA
Péman Malekzadeh
CTG
Corine;
Iran is a country of many ethnic groups and I am sure you are aware of that.
If you are refering to Persian names only and not Iranian ones , check the
boys and girls section of this URL ..
http://www.avesta.org/znames.htm
Good luck with the baby
Corine Chalard wrote in message <95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr>...
PBridge130
>I'm pregnant since 5 months and it's a girl.
>
>Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a persian firstname.
>
>Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
>
For a short list of Iranian names with their meanings, visit this site:
http://persia.org/Information/girls.html
I suggest Maryam (Miriam) or Sara (Sarah), because of their multicultural
popularity and significance.
Ali
<longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Corine;
>
>Iran is a country of many ethnic groups and I am sure you are aware of that.
>If you are refering to Persian names only and not Iranian ones , check the
>boys and girls section of this URL ..
>http://www.avesta.org/znames.htm
Better yet:
http://tehran.stanford.edu/Information/Iranian_names.html
Ali
PBridge130
>If you are refering to Persian names only and not Iranian ones , check the
>boys and girls section of this URL ..
>http://www.avesta.org/znames.htm
Good point. Impressive website.
sirkn...@earthlink.net
it to start wtih? There are so many..
Setareh, Afsaneh, Haleh, Mahnaz, Mehrnoush, Faribah, Anahita, Azar, Atousah,
Niloufar, Parvaneh, Sarah, Shahrzad, Nahid, Firouzeh, Sarvenaz, Nazenin,
Shahrbanu, Golnaz...
The list is rather long.
sirkn...@earthlink.net
name...She asked specifically for Iranian names. The rest sounds pretty foreign
to me except for Halimeh and Mahboodeh (but these sound pretty uggly don't you
agree?)
sirkn...@earthlink.net
sirkn...@earthlink.net
sirkn...@earthlink.net
Poorandokht, Azarmidokht etc...
sirkn...@earthlink.net
sirkn...@earthlink.net
Here are some more I didn't post earlier
Kerbanu, Thriti, Farzaneh, Fereshteh, Farahnaz, Dordaneh, Doghdova, Shirin, Shahnaz, Katayun (one
of my favorites), Marjan, Nazenin, Roshanak, Sepideh
sirkn...@earthlink.net
ROSTAM
There is nothing IrAnian about names such as "halimeh".
Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
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- Pegah ( Very early in the morning before sun rise)
That's my daughter's name.
Amir
In article <95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr>,
"Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
> I'm pregnant since 5 months and it's a girl.
>
> Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a persian
firstname.
>
> Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
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Ali
>Sir,
>There is nothing IrAnian about names such as "halimeh".
I think you should push aside your racist viewpoints. Heck, even Ali,
Ahmad, Mohammad, and Amir are Iranian names, but not Persian names.
Don't let your anti-Arab sentiments get hold of you.
Ali
Ali
>Maryam is not Iranian
>
Maryam is definetly Iranian, but not Persian. We are confusing the
words Iranian with Persian. When I say Maryam is an Iranian name, I
mean that so many Iranian women have that name that it has become
Iranian. Just like the name Ali. Today, if someone has the name
Ali, there is a damn good chance that that person is Iranian.
Maryam may not be a Persian name, but it sure is an Iranian name.
Ali
Ali
>Lili is a beautiful name, my niece is named Lili!
My bad, sorry about that.
I think the worst Iranian girl's name is Ghazaleh. That's my cousin's
name. :(
Ali
Ali
>Persian form of Roxanna is Rokshaneh.
>Here are some more I didn't post earlier
>Kerbanu, Thriti, Farzaneh, Fereshteh, Farahnaz, Dordaneh, Doghdova, Shirin, Shahnaz, Katayun (one
>of my favorites), Marjan, Nazenin, Roshanak, Sepideh
>
Ya, I think Roxanna is a beautiful name. And the good thing is that
it's an American name too. So basically it's very compatible.
Ali
Amir Shahin Sharifrazy
Barazandeh (Baraz for short)
Fourouzandeh (Fourouz)
Zibandeh
Derakhshandeh (Derakhshi)
Faribandeh (Fari)
All my best,
Amir Shahin
Reza Yahaghi
> I'm pregnant since 5 months and it's a girl.
>
> Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a persian firstname.
>
> Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
>
> Thank you very much.
If I ever had a little sweet/cute girl, I would have named her "Shirin".
tcho Shirini az man bedar miravad
tcho Farhaadam aatash beh sar miravad :-)
"shaadi", Bamdad.
La6red9nec
>From: pbrid...@aol.com (PBridge130)
>Date: 2/4/01 9:24 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <20010205002442...@ng-cv1.aol.com>
I suggest Zahra(Zara) or FAtemeh(Fatima) because of their multicultural
popularity and significance.
ROSTAM
related to arabs holy and anything IrAnian worthless. You kind are the ones
that gladly accepted arabs as "molA" and turned IrAnians into "mavAli".
Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
ROSTAM
There are numerous sources that proves this. An obvious source is the Bible.
Such references are not to the Fars province only. Such references are to
the country of IrAn in its entirety. This is not to say that today IrAn
should be referred to as Persia or not. It is to clear a point.
The issue here is not ethnicity. Rather it is IrAnian verses arab and
IrAnianized arab names.
CTG <longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Parviz Siamak
Khanlar1
who asked for Iranian"gilrs" name will not take you seriously!
Yek Irani
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:02:31 GMT, sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >Lili is a beautiful name, my niece is named Lili!
>
> My bad, sorry about that.
>
> I think the worst Iranian girl's name is Ghazaleh. That's my cousin's
> name. :(
>
>
> Ali
Ali joon, word of advice, don't bring family members into SCI
pashmak barghee
Yek Irani
Yek Irani
I'll give the same advice I gave Ali. As far as Lili I think its a take off
from Leila which I think is Arabic.
jaghool pagool
Yek Irani
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Yek Irani
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 03:46:06 GMT, "Sam Ghandchi" <ghan...@home.com>
> wrote:
>
> >How about Lili, GelAreh, Sara.
>
> omg, the first two are horrible names.
>
>
> Ali
I second that emotion. Even Sara is cheating :-)
bAgher zAdeh
Yek Irani
Yek Irani
shirin polo
Yek Irani
<sirkn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Yek Irani
little girl going to kindergarten having to blend in.
mahnAz
Yek Irani
"Péman Malekzadeh" <major...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I agree
> ROSTAM <iza...@erols.com> wrote in message
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Yek Irani
KimiA
Yek Irani
"Ali" <amir...@stud.uni-frankfurt.de> wrote in message
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> Name her "JALEH" that means "Morning Dew" or "SHIRIN" = Sweet!
> I love this Name
>
>
> ROSTAM <iza...@erols.com> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag:
Yek Irani
rogheeye instead of Shireen.
paryA
Yek Irani
"Ali" <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
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> doh, two Alis on this newsgroup. hehe Please note the email address
> to determine which is which. :)
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ali
Yek Irani
daryA
Yek Irani
"michelle" <mich...@neto.com> wrote in message
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>
> Corine Chalard <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
> news:95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr...
>
> I've already dubbed Roya Shirini...sorry:)))))
>
> Michelle
Yek Irani
> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:01:00 GMT, sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >Maryam is not Iranian
> >
>
> Maryam is definetly Iranian, but not Persian. We are confusing the
> words Iranian with Persian. When I say Maryam is an Iranian name, I
> mean that so many Iranian women have that name that it has become
> Iranian. Just like the name Ali. Today, if someone has the name
> Ali, there is a damn good chance that that person is Iranian.
>
> Maryam may not be a Persian name, but it sure is an Iranian name.
So is Rogheeye and Sekeeneh. How very Tokhme Arab of you to sugest Maryam is
Iranian. Let's get one thing straight. Go back and read her post again. She
did NOT say her husband was and Iranian national from Lashgar AbAd in Ahwaz.
She said it clearly that her husbad was a PERSIAN. She also stated clearly
that she wanted a PERSIAN name for her doughter. So with that in mind, I
sugest you take all the so called Eyerainian names that have Arabic origin
and write them on a harsh piece of paper and shove them where the sun don't
shine.
tokhme Arab nAbAshid
Yek Irani
Yek Irani
pareesA
Yek Irani
<sirkn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> None of those names sound Iranian, certainly not Sheila, which is a Jewsih
> name...She asked specifically for Iranian names. The rest sounds pretty
foreign
> to me except for Halimeh and Mahboodeh (but these sound pretty uggly don't
you
> agree?)
>
> Starfish wrote:
>
> > Try these names:
> >
> > - Sheila
> > - Naseem
> > - Heshmat
> > - Halimeh
> > - Belgheis
> > - Mahboobeh
> > - Latifeh
> > - Farrokh Lagha
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > - Starfish
> >
> > "Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
> > news:95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr...
Yek Irani
> No Sir. Your kind are the most racist of all. Your kind consider anything
> related to arabs holy and anything IrAnian worthless. You kind are the
ones
> that gladly accepted arabs as "molA" and turned IrAnians into "mavAli".
Ferdowsi wrote:
be IrAn cho gardad Arab chee dast
shavad bee bahA marde yazdAn parast
How very proving of that point when a person calling himself Rostam calls
racist, an Iranian who is reminding readers that "halime" is not a PERSIAN
(Read the title AGAIN) name. AghAye Rostam there is NOTHING wrong or
disgracefull about appreciating one's own heritage. The disgrace comes when
one puts respect of the enemy's culture above that of his or her own.
meehan parast bAshid, arab parast nbAshid
Yek Irani
Yek Irani
Persia (great name for a girl)
Yek Irani
<sirkn...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> She asked specifically for Iranian names...read the list I gave earlier.
Yek Irani
shireen royA
Yek Irani
"Reza Yahaghi" <re...@mathstat.dal.ca> wrote in message
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Yek Irani
parvAneh
Yek Irani
"PBridge130" <pbrid...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> >
> >I'm pregnant since 5 months and it's a girl.
> >
> >Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a persian
firstname.
> >
> >Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
> >
>
Yek Irani
sepideh
Yek Irani
"ROSTAM" <iza...@erols.com> wrote in message
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Ali
>No Sir. Your kind are the most racist of all. Your kind consider anything
>related to arabs holy and anything IrAnian worthless.
>You kind are the ones
>that gladly accepted arabs as "molA" and turned IrAnians into "mavAli".
Do you intentionally like to spread lies about me? Or is this just an
accident? I doubt you've read any of my posts for the nearly one year
that I've been on this NG. Oh well, continue your lame accusations.
You aren't the first to do this. =)
Ali
>and I ran.... I ran so far away. Come on people think about a 5 year old
>little girl going to kindergarten having to blend in.
LOL. I totally agree with you Yek jahn.
Ali
Ali
>"Ali" <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
>news:09ht7tg22q88o0n2e...@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2001 08:01:00 GMT, sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> >Maryam is not Iranian
>> >
>>
>> Maryam is definetly Iranian, but not Persian. We are confusing the
>> words Iranian with Persian. When I say Maryam is an Iranian name, I
>> mean that so many Iranian women have that name that it has become
>> Iranian. Just like the name Ali. Today, if someone has the name
>> Ali, there is a damn good chance that that person is Iranian.
>>
>> Maryam may not be a Persian name, but it sure is an Iranian name.
>
>So is Rogheeye and Sekeeneh. How very Tokhme Arab of you to sugest Maryam is
>Iranian. Let's get one thing straight. Go back and read her post again. She
>did NOT say her husband was and Iranian national from Lashgar AbAd in Ahwaz.
>She said it clearly that her husbad was a PERSIAN. She also stated clearly
>that she wanted a PERSIAN name for her doughter. So with that in mind, I
>sugest you take all the so called Eyerainian names that have Arabic origin
>and write them on a harsh piece of paper and shove them where the sun don't
>shine.
>
>tokhme Arab nAbAshid
*sigh*
Péman Malekzadeh
reputation to the U.S. as when I was growing up over here.
Yek Irani <YekI...@ee.net> wrote in message news:euMf6.41$23.786@news...
CTG
Could you tell us according to you who is a persian ?
Yek Irani wrote in message ...
Péman Malekzadeh
Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message news:0eht7t4ob2o49ih6f...@4ax.com...
>
Yek Irani
to call themselves Persian. Those who resent being called a Farce.
Persian bAshid
Yek Irani
"CTG" <longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote in message
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Yek Irani
> Those whose mother language is Persian. Those who do NOT find it
embaracing
> to call themselves Persian. Those who resent being called a Farce.
>
> Persian bAshid
>
> Yek Irani
I should add, not to mention those who do NOT side with a regime which has
spent more than 20 years trying to kill Norouz and chArshanbe souri. A
regime who has legalized every Arabic name while making it illegal for
Iranians to name their children Persian names.
be omide nAboodeeye IRI (khelAfate tokheme arab)
Péman Malekzadeh
Ali
<longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote:
>Agah Yek;
>
>Could you tell us according to you who is a persian ?
>
>
Excellent question.
Ali
PS. I think Maryam is a beautiful name. It is, and forever will be an
Iranian name.
Ali
>Those whose mother language is Persian. Those who do NOT find it embaracing
>to call themselves Persian. Those who resent being called a Farce.
>
Resent being called a Farce? What the hell is that?
Ali
aano
Narges (Flower name)
Fereshteh (Angel)
Shokufeh (bud)
cheers,
aano
"Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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CTG
Yek Irani wrote in message ...
> Those who do NOT find it embaracing
to call themselves Persian.
And why would they unless they hate where they come from.
>Those who resent being called a Farce.
>
?????????????????????
Yek if you go to Iran and somone ask you:
Q:Agha Shoma Toorki?
What answer do you choose:
1-Man turk nistam man Farce hastam
2-Man turk nistan Persian hastam
3-Man turk nistam Parsi hastam
4-None of the above the above
Which option do you think a persian one is going to use to reply back in his
mother tongue?
I put my money on 1.
Vughe Been Busheed
Ali
<longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote:
>
>Yek Irani wrote in message ...
>>Those whose mother language is Persian......
>
>> Those who do NOT find it embaracing
>to call themselves Persian.
>
>And why would they unless they hate where they come from.
>
>>Those who resent being called a Farce.
>>
>?????????????????????
>
>Yek if you go to Iran and somone ask you:
>
>Q:Agha Shoma Toorki?
>
>What answer do you choose:
>
>1-Man turk nistam man Farce hastam
>2-Man turk nistan Persian hastam
>3-Man turk nistam Parsi hastam
>4-None of the above the above
>
>
>Which option do you think a persian one is going to use to reply back in his
>mother tongue?
>
>I put my money on 1.
Why would they say Farce? Why wouldn't they say "Man turk nistam, man
Irani hastam" ? What does Farce mean?
Ali
CTG
In Iran Turks refer to non-turks usually persians as Farce
When I was refering to Turki I was refering to the Turks of Iran not Turkey
Ali wrote in message ...
ROSTAM
Others: Just please try again for http://www.azarbaijan.org/
Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
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> I think he meant: http://www.azerbaijan.org
>
>
> Ali
>
> On Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:14:50 +1300, "CTG"
> <longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Problem Report
> > The system detected a DNS Server Failure while
attempting
> >to retrieve
> > the URL: http://www.azarbaijan.org/.
> > Message ID
> > DNS_SERVER_FAILURE
> > Problem
> > Description
> > DNS server failure encountered for host
> >'www.azarbaijan.org'.
> > Possible Problem
> > Cause
> > The DNS server is temporarily unavailable, or the
network
> >is experiencing
> > transient data loss.
> > Possible Solution
> > Try again at a later time.
> >
> >
> >
> >ROSTAM wrote in message <95q170$akj$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...
> >>http://www.azarbaijan.org/
> >>
> >>CTG <longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>news:95ohvi$f9e$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Ali
>No Sir. That is NOT what I meant. Please stop trying to mislead people.
>
Dude, chill. I thought you just misspelt the URL or something. No
harm intended. Sheesh! Talk about jumping to conclusions.
Ali
aar...@my-deja.com
Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote:
> So the fact that millions of Iranians, not to mention famous ones,
> have names like Ali, Amir, and Hassan, we should never consider those
> names Iranian? Come on. That isn't really fair.
>
> Let's take the name Kourosh for example. That name has been in Iran
> for over 2 thousand of years. And then lets take the name Ali, that
> has been in Iran for about 1 thousand years. Just because the name
> didn't originate in Iran, we shouldn't consider the name Iranian?
>
> Ali
>
cum on aily jooni, u can't b that stupid, can u? ali, mohamad, hassan
or husain or what ever >>>r arabic/islamic<<< names, they r not
iranian. africans, asians, and any where muslims live they have those
names and if u ask them what kind of names they r, what do u think
they'd say, iranian??? get a grip, ur name--like it or not--is purely
arabic, just live with that, many iranians having arabic names won't
make ali an irani name no matter how many 1000's years go by, cuppish?
but i beleive *aftaabeh* is purely iranian name~~~<>RJ<>
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Thank you very much.
Now we're going to choose.
Corine
Corine Chalard <si...@club-internet.fr> a écrit dans le message :
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aar...@my-deja.com
facts~~~<>RJ<>
In article <tg128toq1mdh74bhh...@4ax.com>,
Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote:
> So the fact that millions of Iranians, not to mention famous ones,
> have names like Ali, Amir, and Hassan, we should never consider those
> names Iranian? Come on. That isn't really fair.
>
> Let's take the name Kourosh for example. That name has been in Iran
> for over 2 thousand of years. And then lets take the name Ali, that
> has been in Iran for about 1 thousand years. Just because the name
> didn't originate in Iran, we shouldn't consider the name Iranian?
>
> Ali
>
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 05:49:51 GMT, sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >No, none of those names are Iranian!!!
> >That is not racist, just plain fact. Those are the names of arab
invaders, no
> >different than the eskandars and changiz that you put down. Be
objective and
> >don't say what you say just ebcause you are a Shiite supporter.
> >Iranian is derived from Aryan, an eastern Indo-European group of
people who
> >settled in Iran, gave their name to it and included peoples such as
the
> >Persians, one of the many tribes of the Iranian people. Iranain is
merely the
> >modern appelation ofr Aryan or Aryana Vaeja, (abode of the Aryans).
Mohammad,
> >Ali, Hassan and Hosssein have NOTHING Iranian about them, and that is
> >something that the vast majority of Iranians understand and know how
to make
> >the distinction between Iranian and Arab, although some cannot.
> >
> >Ali wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 07:33:33 -0800, "ROSTAM" <iza...@erols.com>
wrote:
> >>
> >> >Sir,
> >> >There is nothing IrAnian about names such as "halimeh".
> >>
> >> I think you should push aside your racist viewpoints. Heck, even
Ali,
> >> Ahmad, Mohammad, and Amir are Iranian names, but not Persian names.
> >> Don't let your anti-Arab sentiments get hold of you.
> >>
> >> Ali
> >>
> >> >Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:hnbs7tkghclcm65vg...@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:29:21 -0800, "ROSTAM" <iza...@erols.com>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Most of the names that you have listed are not Persian.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think it matters if it's Persian or not. It's Iranian
for
> >> >> sure though. I mean, many Iranians have those names.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Ali
> >> >>
> >> >> >Starfish <starfish@____.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:95kg60$6rum$1...@newssvr06-en0.news.prodigy.com...
> >> >> >> Try these names:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> - Sheila
> >> >> >> - Naseem
> >> >> >> - Heshmat
> >> >> >> - Halimeh
> >> >> >> - Belgheis
> >> >> >> - Mahboobeh
> >> >> >> - Latifeh
> >> >> >> - Farrokh Lagha
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> cheers,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> - Starfish
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr...
> >> >> >> > I'm pregnant since 5 months and it's a girl.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a
persian
> >> >> >firstname.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > Thank you very much.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
>
>
aa_v_...@my-deja.com
Like many nations all names are not THE nation's ethnic names. Names
like Hassan, Ali, or Mohammad are Arabic/Islamic names(lite Biblical
names Pual and John and Peter used in all the Western world)used in all
Muslim nations. No one particular culture can say Hassan is an Irani
name or Pakistani or Hindi or Turkic, although the name is wide spread
every where. That's just a fact. Now why is not Sheela Persian, if not
Persian can some one shed some light on that? Thanks.
;AA
CTG
Wez piz wez zzzzzz
AzarBuyeJuns's operator for must be taking a break.......;)
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ROSTAM wrote in message <95ritc$a2s$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...
ROSTAM
Since you can not get to it, here is the contents of the webpage:
***Azarbaijan - Azerbaijan
Introduction
In the recent years since the independence of the state of "Azerbaijan"
(Correctly "Azarbaijan"), major political powers and their allies have bee
trying hard to establish an Identity for this great land and its people in
order to control its rich oil resources. As if it did not have any identity
before.
As a result of such activities there are few web pages in the net reporting
false claims on the identity of this great land and its people.
As an Iranian borne Azaris we have much love for the Azarbaijan of Iran,
i.e. where we come from, as we have for the Northern one, i.e. the so called
independent sate of Azarbaijan. Thus doing our best to show the truth about
our people regardless of the political agendas of the major powers. How can
we close our eyes about what they are doing to our history?
Here we declare that we are not sponsored by OR tied to any political entity
or government and we intend to remain as such. Our purpose is to put an end
to the false claims being made on behalf of Azarbaijan and its Identity. To
be honest some of the claims are so ridiculous and so far from reality that
I must mention them here. Have a look at "www.azerbaijan.com" and click
on the "Historical Notes" I am not sure who these people are? One thing they
reflect in their web page is lack of knowledge. Or may be their intention is
to mislead the public on this issue purposefully. They claimed:
They claim:
"Ethnically and linguistically, the Azerbaijani people are descended from
the nomadic Turkish tribes that migrated west across Transcaucasia into
present day Turkey more than one thousand years ago."
Where as it is a very well known fact to all historians that the region has
been occupied by Azaris, Armenians and Kurds (collectively refereed to as
Medes) for more than 4000 years.
They claim:
"The roots of present day Azerbaijan can be traced back to the 400 B.C.,
with the emergence of the two kingdoms of Caucasian Albania in the north,
and the Atropatan in the south. The latter takes its name from its founder,
Atropat, a satrap of Alexander of Macedonian".
Then again there are so many problems with this claim. The fact is that the
Azarbaijan of 400 BC was part of the Persian-Medes Empire. And Atropat was a
satrap of Darius the Persian king and not the Alexander's. And what is more,
he was named after the place and not visa versa. The meaning of Atropat in
old Persian is "the keeper of fire" and is refered to the person in charge
of the Zoroastrian fire temples in Azarbaijan.
They claim:
"Ancient literature describes Caucasian Albania as a separate state with a
diverse economic base."
I don't know what ancient literature they are referring to but as far as my
lifetime of historical studies reveals, there was no Albanian Kingdom in
Azarbaijan. The region was and is the place for Medes since the dawn of
history. And as far as my linguistic knowledge concerns, Albanian language,
belonging to the "Sadum" group of the Indo-European languages, and is the
closest language to the Armenian, Kurdish and Persian. Read
http://www.fas.harvard.edu/~olmsted/kcole/albanian.htm . You may ask what is
wrong with this picture? How can you be traced back to Albanians in 400 BC,
(i.e. some Indo-European people), and yet be Turkic (i.e. belonging to
Altaic family of races such as Turks, Mongolians, Japanese and Korean)????
We Azaris don't even look like any of the Altaic races!!! How can we
possibly be Turkish???
What are they trying to do? Are they trying to deny the fact that we,
Azaris, are in fact Indo-European people like Armenians, Albanians,
Persians, Kurds ... and yet was forced to speak Altaic Turkish language by
the Mongol invaders? It is a historical fact that Ghazan Khan, (i.e. the
savage Mongol ruler in 10th century), made his capital at Tabriz, i.e. the
city in the Iranian Azarbaijan, and forced the official language of the
government to be Turkic. I can only imagine the suffering that my
forefathers faced under Ghazan's rule.
This may sound strange to many uneducated ears, but before that, and even
long after that, our ancestors were all speaking Persian. In fact our people
are the closest relatives to the Persians. Only the reason that we can speak
some Turkish dialect is the fact that our people were invaded by the
Turko-Moghuls and forced into speaking Turkish.
I have always said, genes don't lie. Human genetic maintain information for
millions of years and are the best document that one can use to determine
ones ethnicity. Our facial features, hair color, eye color, bone structure
... are all the result of our genetic information. Now, let me ask you one
very simple yet fundamental question:
Who do we look like? Certainly, we look like just any Persian, Armenian,
Kurd or any other Indo-European for that matter (i.e. collectively called
the "Caucasians"). One thing we don't look like is Altaic (i.e. Turkic).
Although I respect all humans regardless of their race, we don't look like
any Turkics, Moguls, Japanese, Korean or any other Altaic race.
Now, which one is more important in determining ones origin, language or
human genetic? Most Indians speak English fluently, does it mean that they
are Anglo-Saxon? We should respect their origin. In the same way, we must
respect ours.
I urge all Azaris not to give in to such betrayal and defend our identity.
After all, if you don't look like a Turk you are not one.
Now, Some truth about Azarbaijan
Before anything else, I must spend sometimes on clarifying the meaning of
two very important Indo-European terms.
mAd
"mAd", pronounced like "God", is an old Persian, (i.e. an Indo-European
language itself), term that has become the root to many Indo-European words
used today. The meaning of "mAd" is "the origin".
The Persian word "mAdar" is the combination of the words "mAd" + suffix
"ar". the suffix is used to indicate the actor. In english the "ar" has
evolved into "er" or sometime "or" but the effect is the same. An example of
such usage in english would be diffuse -> diffuser OR diffusor.
Thus persian "mAdar", which means "Mother" in english, has a literal meaning
of "The originator" signifying the role of women in our society, for obvious
reasons.
Other example:
Persian "mAdiAn" or "mAde asp"= mare ( female horse)
pAd
This is another very important Indo-European word. Old Persian "pAd" has the
same meaning than "pod" in latin, "foot" in english and "pA" in new Persian.
One of the derivatives of this word is "pAyeh" meaning "foundation" for
obvious reasons. Another derivative is "ApAd", (new Persian "AbAd" or "bar
pA") meaning "on its feet" = "Founded", "Established" and "Kept"
Thus, old Persian "pAdar" (new Persian "pedar"), which means "Father" in
english, has a literal meaning of "The Founder" and "The Keeper" referring
to the role of men in the Indo-European society.
Other examples:
Persian "se pA" or "se pAyeh" = latin "tripod"
Persian "PaydAr". Literal Meaning: "The one that has Feet". Meaning
"Eternal"
Azarbaijan - The name
To be completed soon
Azarbaijan - The people
Who are we?
Bravery is our pride and the soil of our land Arran (i.e the term used by
Azaris to refer to Azarbaijan. it means Iran) is more valuable than the
whole Universe. We have fought for and defended IrAn since the dawn of the
history longer than anyone can remember. We have given birth to so many
distinguished Historical figures. Every Indo-Iranian (i.e. Aryan), have
their roots of their ancestors traced back to us. Greeks called us the
Medes, Bible refers to us as Medians.
We are the "mAd", the origin of all Indo-Iranians, (A subgroup of a lager
people known as Indo-Europeans or Caucasians). "mAdhA", being the plural
form of "mAd" which is known as Medes to the Greeks, does not refer to a
place nor a country. It is the name of the group of people who settled in
the region known today as Azarbaijan, Armanistan, Kurdistan, part of Syria
and Turkey more than 3000 BC, exact date is not known.
Note that Zaratushtra (i.e. Zartusht or Zoroaster), himself being a "mAd"
from the region known as Azarbaijan today, dates back to 1700 BC. Although
"Mary Boyce", Iranist and the leading authority among the western scholars,
sets the date for Zartusht to 1400 BC, there are more evidences suggesting
that even 1700 BC is too early. For example the language of Gatha which is
the key to the Old Persian language, is closely related to the Sanskrit of
"Rig Vedas", the holy book of hindus, i.e. another Indo-Iranian group of
people. Now, "Rig Vedas" is much older than 1700 BC. The point that I am
trying to make is that The first wave of the Aryan migration is much older
than historical recordings found on this topic.
This group of people migrated from their original land which was no longer
habitable due to rapid climatical changes which caused a mini Ice age in
that region. It is believed to be located somewhere between Russia and
Caucus mountains.
After migration, Perhaps, Turkey, Kurdistan, Azarbaijan and Armanestan were
among the first places that the Aryans occupied due to the vicinity to their
original land. Places such as Central IrAn, Afganestan, Tajikestan and North
India was occupied at much later stage by the same people. So, you know why
they called us mAd. Most likely this is the term used by most Aryan clans,
where ever they were, to identify us as the origin of their people.
Example of the similar pattern for today is that there are more than 100,000
(not sure about the figure) Parsi all around the world. They left Iran some
1400 years ago as the result of Arab invasion yet still they refer to
themselves as Parsi (i.e. the Persian), signifying the origin of their
people.
Anyway,
There is poem from "Parvin Etemasi", an Azari herself, that I like to
include it here. It is about weman, however, she has given plenty of clue to
her ethnic origin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
ke man Parvin forooghe shEre IrAnam
na poorAndokht, na Azardokht, na Atoosa, na pAnteA
ke Artemis sepahsAlAre IrAn dar nabarde pArs O uoonAnam.
marA gar dar mghAme hamsari bini, na yek ham khAb O ham bastar,
ke yek hamrAh O yek yAre vafA dAram.
na yek barde, makon ingoone pendAram,
ke jooshad khoone AzAdi be sharyAnam.
bedoone zan, kojA midAsht tArikhe tou,
Arash bA kamAnash?
Kave Ahangar bA gorz O sandAnash?
bedoone zan kojA midAshti An shAEre Toosi
negahbAne zabAne pArsi,
ostAd Ferdosi?
marA gar dar maghAme mAdari bini,
mgoo bA man ke farshi as behesht zire pAyam hast,
negAham kon ke zire pAye man donyA be jaryAn ast,
ze noore Eshghe man rakhshandeh keyhAn ast,
ke bA dastAne man gardoon be davrAn ast,
ke jAye pAye man bar chehreye sorkh O sepid O sabze IrAn ast.
boro ey mard, degar mabar AsAn be lab nAmam,
ke man "A z A d e" zan, farzande IrAnam. (indeed)
CTG <longli...@NOSPANhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:95s4sd$vrj$1...@lust.ihug.co.nz...
Yek Irani
> On Tue, 06 Feb 2001 07:38:09 GMT, "Yek Irani" <YekI...@ee.net> wrote:
>
> >Those whose mother language is Persian. Those who do NOT find it
embaracing
> >to call themselves Persian. Those who resent being called a Farce.
> >
>
> Resent being called a Farce? What the hell is that?
>
>
> Ali
Its not good that's for darn sure.
Farce nabAshid
Yek Irani
CTG
Mr Rostam;
Thanks for informative content posted.
However I am not sure in relation to what you have posted that.
Was it because I said to Ali
"In Iran Turks refer to non-turks usually ,persians as Farce
When I was refering to Turki I was refering to the language of Turks of Iran
not Turkey"
If you have taken that as an offensive statement my apologies.
ROSTAM wrote in message <95sk40$o1h$1...@bob.news.rcn.net>...
sirkn...@earthlink.net
with the ancient name of "Persia". After all, Iran has only been in use since 1925
and Persia is much older and was in use through a greater period of time than Iran.
Therefore, an inhabitant of the land of Persia in anceint times, irrespective of
ethnicity could then be properly termed as a "Persian", just as a "Roman" could be a
Celt, Greek or wahtever nationality that came to be incorporated within the Roman
Empire.
Ali wrote:
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 06:24:08 GMT, sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >You have to realize that a lot of people say Persian when they're really not. I
> >have Arab friends from Khorramshahr (yes, I know it's hard to believe I of all
> >people have Arab friends) and they always present themselves as "Persian", never
> >Iranian. I also have ethnic Arab friends from Chalus and Massouleh and they say
> >the same thing. Then I have an Afshar friend who does the same thing.
> >
> >In reality, Persian accoutns for merely 51% of the entire nation but if you want
> >to count the related groups such as Kurds, Gilak, Mazandarani etc...then we are
> >talking somewhere closer to 65% Iranian speakers.
>
> You're right. But when they say Persian, I think they mean their
> nationality and not their ethnicity. For example, I'm 3/4 Persian and
> 1/4 Iranian Azeri (from Tabriz), but I consider myself Persian.
>
> Ali
sirkn...@earthlink.net
which is really a French loan word. Just as "Salam" is an Arabic loan word but still, we
understand them as such and designate them as foreign loan words, aware that the Persian
terminology for the respective expressions are "Sepas" and "doorood".
Ali wrote:
> I draw the line to the amount of time the name has been used in Iran.
>
sirkn...@earthlink.net
Biblical name but definitely not Iranian (IE Avestan, Pahlavi or Dari)
sirkn...@earthlink.net
I admire your post on the Azaris and your efforts to show them as they truly
are, an Iranian people who have been, through the course of political influence
and force, turkicized.
I have to corect you on several things however.
First, the dates you have given regarding the dates of Asho Zarathushtra are
very correct and I'm glad that someone other than myself in this newsgroup is
aware that he wasn't born in 500 BC or something like that. Still, I have to
tkae you away from the misconception that he was a Mde. The old Avesta speaks of
the Iranian lands, which are teh lands to the East but never once speaks of
Medes and Persians.
Also the dialect of the Gathas has been identified by respected linguists, as a
north east Iranian dialect and therefore very different from Mede.
Second point, I would like to underline the fact that neither the Kurds, the
Medes or other Iranian people are in the same group as the Indo-European
Armenians. The latter, although still IE, are more closely related to the
Thrakian subfamilly of Indo-European languages and that at not time did the
Armenians constitute a federation of Mede tribes. In fact, the Mede federation
of tribes, made of at least five tribes probalby contained at the msot one truly
Aryan tribe, the rest being mostly Caucasic speaking natives.
None of teh Aryans, wtihthe exception of the Mittani (who are really Indo-Aryans
and not Iranians) migrated by way of the Caucasus. One exception is the tribe of
the Cimmerians that migrated in early Mede times through the Caucasian passes
into Anatolia.
All other tribes, including the Parsa, Madai, Saggartians, Drangianians,
Bactrians etc...all came fmo Central Asia, from lands east of the Caspian Sea.
sirkn...@earthlink.net
fact. No matter how much time went by, Roxanne in the US would still be a Persian
name and in a thousand years, Ali would still be an Arabic name. It is in the root
of the language, you can't just change languages over night.
Ali wrote:
> Ok, how about this. Would you accept it if I said:
>
> I consider names like Amir, Ali, and Hassan Iranian names, BUT with
> Arabic origins.
>
> ???
>
> Ali
>
> On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 05:49:51 GMT, sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
>
> >No, none of those names are Iranian!!!
> >That is not racist, just plain fact. Those are the names of arab invaders, no
> >different than the eskandars and changiz that you put down. Be objective and
> >don't say what you say just ebcause you are a Shiite supporter.
> >Iranian is derived from Aryan, an eastern Indo-European group of people who
> >settled in Iran, gave their name to it and included peoples such as the
> >Persians, one of the many tribes of the Iranian people. Iranain is merely the
> >modern appelation ofr Aryan or Aryana Vaeja, (abode of the Aryans). Mohammad,
> >Ali, Hassan and Hosssein have NOTHING Iranian about them, and that is
> >something that the vast majority of Iranians understand and know how to make
> >the distinction between Iranian and Arab, although some cannot.
> >
> >Ali wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 07:33:33 -0800, "ROSTAM" <iza...@erols.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Sir,
> >> >There is nothing IrAnian about names such as "halimeh".
> >>
> >> I think you should push aside your racist viewpoints. Heck, even Ali,
> >> Ahmad, Mohammad, and Amir are Iranian names, but not Persian names.
> >> Don't let your anti-Arab sentiments get hold of you.
> >>
> >> Ali
> >>
> >> >Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
> >> >news:hnbs7tkghclcm65vg...@4ax.com...
> >> >> On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:29:21 -0800, "ROSTAM" <iza...@erols.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >Most of the names that you have listed are not Persian.
> >> >>
> >> >> I don't think it matters if it's Persian or not. It's Iranian for
> >> >> sure though. I mean, many Iranians have those names.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Ali
> >> >>
> >> >> >Starfish <starfish@____.com> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:95kg60$6rum$1...@newssvr06-en0.news.prodigy.com...
> >> >> >> Try these names:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> - Sheila
> >> >> >> - Naseem
> >> >> >> - Heshmat
> >> >> >> - Halimeh
> >> >> >> - Belgheis
> >> >> >> - Mahboobeh
> >> >> >> - Latifeh
> >> >> >> - Farrokh Lagha
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> cheers,
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> - Starfish
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> "Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
> >> >> >> news:95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr...
Ali
>That reflects a feeling among even modern generations to feel a greater connection
>with the ancient name of "Persia". After all, Iran has only been in use since 1925
>and Persia is much older and was in use through a greater period of time than Iran.
>Therefore, an inhabitant of the land of Persia in anceint times, irrespective of
>ethnicity could then be properly termed as a "Persian", just as a "Roman" could be a
>Celt, Greek or wahtever nationality that came to be incorporated within the Roman
>Empire.
>
I agree, well said.
Ali
Ali
>Ali, you have to understand the difference between Iranian and non-Iranian names.
>The name Vahan has been in Iran for almost 2000 years, same wtih Armene but
>neither of these are Iranian names, they are Armenian names and they never will be
>Iranian names because they never did nor will they ever, along with the Arabic
>names you have mentioned been part of the Iranian languages. They are Arabic pure
>and Simple.
I agree, but I look at it this way: Today, the average person would
consider the names Joe or Michael as American names, but in reality,
they come from somewhere else (probably Europe), yet people still
consider those names American. I share similar views with Iranian
names.
Ali
>
>Ali wrote:
>
>> So the fact that millions of Iranians, not to mention famous ones,
>> have names like Ali, Amir, and Hassan, we should never consider those
>> names Iranian? Come on. That isn't really fair.
>>
>> Let's take the name Kourosh for example. That name has been in Iran
>> for over 2 thousand of years. And then lets take the name Ali, that
>> has been in Iran for about 1 thousand years. Just because the name
>> didn't originate in Iran, we shouldn't consider the name Iranian?
>>
>> Ali
>>
>> On Wed, 07 Feb 2001 05:49:51 GMT, sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>> >No, none of those names are Iranian!!!
>> >That is not racist, just plain fact. Those are the names of arab invaders, no
>> >different than the eskandars and changiz that you put down. Be objective and
>> >don't say what you say just ebcause you are a Shiite supporter.
>> >Iranian is derived from Aryan, an eastern Indo-European group of people who
>> >settled in Iran, gave their name to it and included peoples such as the
>> >Persians, one of the many tribes of the Iranian people. Iranain is merely the
>> >modern appelation ofr Aryan or Aryana Vaeja, (abode of the Aryans). Mohammad,
>> >Ali, Hassan and Hosssein have NOTHING Iranian about them, and that is
>> >something that the vast majority of Iranians understand and know how to make
>> >the distinction between Iranian and Arab, although some cannot.
>> >
>> >Ali wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 07:33:33 -0800, "ROSTAM" <iza...@erols.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >Sir,
>> >> >There is nothing IrAnian about names such as "halimeh".
>> >>
>> >> I think you should push aside your racist viewpoints. Heck, even Ali,
>> >> Ahmad, Mohammad, and Amir are Iranian names, but not Persian names.
>> >> Don't let your anti-Arab sentiments get hold of you.
>> >>
>> >> Ali
>> >>
>> >> >Ali <persi...@my-Deja.com> wrote in message
>> >> >news:hnbs7tkghclcm65vg...@4ax.com...
>> >> >> On Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:29:21 -0800, "ROSTAM" <iza...@erols.com> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Most of the names that you have listed are not Persian.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I don't think it matters if it's Persian or not. It's Iranian for
>> >> >> sure though. I mean, many Iranians have those names.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ali
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Starfish <starfish@____.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:95kg60$6rum$1...@newssvr06-en0.news.prodigy.com...
>> >> >> >> Try these names:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - Sheila
>> >> >> >> - Naseem
>> >> >> >> - Heshmat
>> >> >> >> - Halimeh
>> >> >> >> - Belgheis
>> >> >> >> - Mahboobeh
>> >> >> >> - Latifeh
>> >> >> >> - Farrokh Lagha
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> cheers,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - Starfish
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> "Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> news:95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr...
Ali
>No, I still wouldn't accept it. It's nothing personal or prejudiced, it's just a
>fact. No matter how much time went by, Roxanne in the US would still be a Persian
>name and in a thousand years, Ali would still be an Arabic name. It is in the root
>of the language, you can't just change languages over night.
>
I understand. I think we just have different definitions of the term
"Iranian name".
:)
Ali
Reza Yahaghi
Yek Irani wrote:
> That is a great name and a wonderfull sugestion.
>
:-). I guess this goes without any comment:
>
> shireen royA
>
ey khoshaa mastaaneh sar dar paay-e delbar daashtan
del tohi az zesht-o khoob-e tcharkh-e akhzar daashtan
nazd-e shaahin-e moheb-bat bi-par-o baal aamadan
pish baaz-e 'eshgh aa'iin-e kabootar daashtan
sookhtan, bogdaakhtan, tchoon sham'e-o bazm-afrookhtan
tan beh yaad-e rooy-e jaanaan andar aazar daashtan
ey khoshaa sodaay-e del az dideh penhaan daashtan
mabhas-e tahghigh raa dar daftar-e jaan daashtan
sar-bolandi khaastan dar 'eyn-e pasti zar-reh-vaar
AAREZOOY-E SOHBAT-E *KHORSHID*-E RAKHSHAAN DAASHTAN
-Parvin
ey sokhan khaamoosh kon baa maa mayaa!
zaankeh maa az rashk bi-maa miravim! :-)
"shirin"-face of a little sweet/cute boy/girl (no matter
white/black/green/yellow/..., no matter
American/Iranian/Turk/Kord/Azeri/Arab/Armenian..., no matter X/Y/Z...),
Bamdad/Reza.
PS
sooy-e mashregh naravim-o sooy-e maghreb naravim
taa abad gaam-zanaan jaaneb-e KHORSHID-e azal :-)
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> >[...]
> >
> >
Yek Irani
>
> Mr Rostam;
> Thanks for informative content posted.
>
> However I am not sure in relation to what you have posted that.
> Was it because I said to Ali
>
> "In Iran Turks refer to non-turks usually ,persians as Farce
> When I was refering to Turki I was refering to the language of Turks of
Iran
> not Turkey"
We all know what farce means in English and I don't know about any of you
but I for one will stick with Persian.
Persian bAshid
Yek Irani
farha...@my-deja.com
In article <95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr>,
"Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
> I'm pregnant since 5 months and it's a girl.
>
> Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a persian
firstname.
>
> Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
ahr...@newsguy.com
fo your chair and arguing if Ali or Hassan is Iranian, persian, or
arabic names. Like we've already solved all our fucking problems here or
back home and the only thing left is changing our name, so what if your
name is not fucking Rostam and instead is Ali or better is Alireza.
As far as I concern all of u people can kiss my bald head and lick my
black ass, and then ask me if I care what your name is.
Yek Irani
> >So the fact that millions of Iranians, not to mention famous ones, have
names like Ali, Amir, and Hassan, we should never consider those names
Iranian? Come on. That isn't really fair.
>
> >Let's take the name Kourosh for example. That name has been in Iran for
over 2 thousand of years. And then lets take the name Ali, that has been in
Iran for about 1 thousand years. Just because the name didn't originate in
Iran, we shouldn't consider the name Iranian?
>
>
>
> Ali
khareh, Iranian people say Mercy instead of SepAs. does that make Mercy an
Iranian word.
khar nabAshid
Yek Irani
sirkn...@earthlink.net
sirkn...@earthlink.net
European background. American now incorporates all the white names including Germanic,
Celtic and Romance that are in use in Europe.
peacoc...@my-deja.com
Ali
>Well, American is really a pseudonym for European, since 75% of the population is of
>European background. American now incorporates all the white names including Germanic,
>Celtic and Romance that are in use in Europe.
>
Ok, what about Mexico? I think a better example would be that people
here in southern California consider names like Jose and Juan as
Mexican, when in reality they originated from Spain. Should we stop
referring to Jose and Juan as Mexican names just because of that? Of
course not. That is why I think we should continue to refer names
like Ali, Amir, and Reza as Iranian. Simply because it has been used
so long and so often by Iranians.
Ali
ahr...@newsguy.com
TIA
sirkn...@earthlink.net
where your ass stops and where your tonsils begin.
sirkn...@earthlink.net
Ali wrote:
>
>
> Ok, what about Mexico? I think a better example would be that people
> here in southern California consider names like Jose and Juan as
> Mexican, when in reality they originated from Spain. Should we stop
> referring to Jose and Juan as Mexican names just because of that? Of
> course not. That is why I think we should continue to refer names
> like Ali, Amir, and Reza as Iranian. Simply because it has been used
> so long and so often by Iranians.
>
> Ali
>
> Taht's a good point but most people that refer to those names as "Mexican" are also the
> same uneducated people who refer to Hispanic People as "Spanish", not taking into
> consideration that these Indians and the Spaniards of Europe have very little in common.
> Also, in the case of people who do that (not mine since I know these are Spanish names
> and that Mexicans were really a Aztec/Toltec Indian people), I would say that the mixing
> of Spanish is perhaps on a larger scale that the mixing of Arab and Iranian blood and
> that the fusion of the two are more complete. Still, I refer to the names you have
> mentioned as Spanish and thsoe who do not I would say they are wrong in doing so.
mash_...@my-deja.com
sirkn...@earthlink.net wrote:
> Mash jan, I may be wrong but I believe those are Arabic names.
>
You could be right aziz but I think people should choose a name
that are common in many cultures. Jasmin is one of them, but
Parvaneh is a nice also. I was in love with a girl back home by
that name :) Shadi and Shirin sound nice but Shahrzad tops them all :)
regards;
MG
> mash_...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> > In article <95kfit$a25$1...@front3.grolier.fr>,
> > "Corine Chalard" <si...@club-internet.fr> wrote:
> > > I'm pregnant since 5 months and it's a girl.
> > >
> > > Her father is persian, and we'd like our daughter has a persian
> > firstname.
> > >
> > > Can we help us ? A short firstname (her last name is long).
> > >
> > > Thank you very much.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Jasmin or Yasaman