End of Reddy Raj ?
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for a while. May be some kind, knowledgeable soul can enlighten me here
on the net.
Ever since AP was formed, I noticed the political scene was dominated
by Reddys. Most of the Chief Ministers and disproportionate # of
ministerial berths in every cabinet went to Reddys.
Now the questions, not necessarily the top XX list.
1) What percentage of AP population are Reddys.
2) Why is it that most of the chief ministers are Reddys. Is it
because they are smarter than people from other castes or
is it just plain nepotism
May be some political guru can post all CM names in order here.
3) Why the disproportionate number of Reddys in every AP cabinet
and most importantly, how come none of the other castes brahmins,
kapus, kammas, Rajus and others complain about it.
4) Why is it that TDP was brought down on corruption charges by these
corrupted Cong(I) who made Chenna Reddy CM of AP who should be
honored with the Most Corrupted Politician (MCP ala MVP) on this
planet. Isn't it the height of hypocricy.
5) Why do Cong(I) keep recycling these corrupt politicians Chenna
Reddy, et al when they should have been dumped in garbage. Is it
because they take people of AP for granted.
6) Why is it that Cong in AP became synonymous with Reddys
7) Why is NTR accused of casteism, when in reality kammas didn't benefit
at all and who felt they were better off in Cong(I) rule. Is it
because the rest of the junta fell into the trap laid by Reddys
pitting kammas against other castes.
8) Why Reddys are not accused of nepotism and casteism by other castes
when they blatantly fill the cabinet and other positions of power in
govt with Reddys. Is it because others do not stoop down so low as
Reddys who will do anything to latch on to power.
9) Is it time for other castes kapus, brahmins, kammas etc to wake up to
the reality and demand equal representation in AP politics and call
for the end of Reddy nepotism
10)Is the recent Jalagam Vengal Rao's lashout in khammam at Reddy rule
in AP the beginning of the end of Reddy Raj in AP. Did Jalagam finally
got sick of the situation and called for the end of Reddy Raj in AP.
11) If Cong(I) comes back to power, can we assume the next 3 or 4 Chief
Ministers will be some TOM, DICK & HARRY Reddys in that order.
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Anil Kumar Reddy Gurijala
anil gurijala
Murali D Boyapati (U)
>we're going to have lot fun for next few weeks.
>
>anil gurijala
Yes INdeed. Some gutless person had to rake up the issue behind
the viel of anon. Brought out a sensitive topic though and now let us see
how this issue is going to handled by scit ians.
murali
Prasad Golla
>3) Why the disproportionate number of Reddys in every AP cabinet
> and most importantly, how come none of the other castes brahmins,
> kapus, kammas, Rajus and others complain about it.
>
>
> at all and who felt they were better off in Cong(I) rule. Is it
> because the rest of the junta fell into the trap laid by Reddys
> pitting kammas against other castes.
After talking so eloquently against casteism and nepotism, with the above
statements you have shown that you showed your feelings against the Reddy's
and not against the system.
AP is not just the above castes you mentioned. It is not one group against
the other. AP is not a Kingdom that one rules after the other. It seems
like you would have no problem if Kammas were presently ruling the state.
If you were that open-minded you would no use the anon service to post
this article. Don't cover your cateist feelings by accusing the other
castes.
By the way I found that Reddy's are not that openly casteist as the other
groups you have mentioned. That I think is the answer why the Reddy's
supposedly dominate.
So long friend.
Prasad
Kodanda Reddy Devarapalli
Your posting clearly implies that you are a blatant castiest person, big anti-social element, you are not just anti-reddy but anti-every caste except your own caste.
Your posting clearly indicates the rule by kamma is fine (which implies that you
are a Kamma). It indicates that you are a big fundamental castiest person, you have no love to other castes, you are more interested in a rule by Kamma, you are not against the caste system but encouraging more casteism by advising that every caste should go fight in streets for more posts.
If you have any courage or interested in open discussion, you wouldn't have used the anon service. You better come out of your identity crisis, it is good for you.
All your questions are nothing but clitches, mentioning the same thing again and again in each question and cribbing about reddys.
Now let me express my feelings.
1) Reddys are not just in CONGRESS. They are in all the parties. There are good
reddy leaders in CONG,TDP and BJP, though there may be bad ones which is
like inevitable in any field/profession for that matter.
2) Currupted officials/politicians are there in every caste, not just only
in reddys. If you say Chenna Reddy is currupted person, in my opinion NTR/Chndra
babu Naidu et al are hundred times more currupted than him. Yes, they have
gained lots of crores of property while they are in power.
3) Regarding your cribbibg about more reddys, remember they are being elected
by the people DEMOCRATICALLY. They are probably more close to the
people than from any other castes in the constituencies which they won,
probably people felt that they are their better representatives. That is
why they are winning.
In today's assembly out of 280/290 MLA's there are around 130/140 reddy
MLAs (including all parties), that is around 50%. They are not picked
by anyone, but are elected by the PEOPLE in a democratic society.
If one argues that reddys were given more seats, then let me tell you,
any party either CONG/TDP/BJP gives seats (either MLA/MP) to the persons
whose winning chances are more. It would have been the case that reddys have
more chances of winning in many constituencies.
In the next Kurnool LokSabha by-election, even TDP has given seat to M.V.subba
reddy, a Reddy against the CONGRESS candidate suryaprakash Reddy. NTR would
have loved to give the party ticket to a Kamma, but would have afraid that
he may loose his deposit :-) He gave a ticket to reddy for no love towards him
but just because he can give good fight to another reddy. I quoted this to
stress again that any party gives a chance to the best candidate around.
Yes, In Rayalaseema, in 60-70% of the constituencies both CONGRESS and TDP
candidates are reddys just because they have more chances of winning. The
percentage would be little low in Telangana.
4) If the elected reddys don't do any thing for the people, why does they elect
them again and again. Probably people can be fooled once, but not always.
Remember, they are getting elected because all sections/castes vote for them
and not just reddys.
5) Regarding the chief-ministers, remember, ours is democracy. The chief minister
is again indirectly elected by the people because he was elected by the MLAs
whom, the people have elected. So, let the MLAs of elected governments select
their representative according to the democratic process.
6) You are talking about disproportionate number of reddy ministers, I feel,
it is mis-propaganda and absolutely trash. Present Home minister is a Kamma,
finance minister is a Vysya. All sections of the people especially SC/ST/BC
and other castes are well represented according to their strength in the
assembly. There may be some grumblings here and there as it is very difficult
satisfy every one, in any Govt(like Jalagam grumbling about his son not
not getting a ministerial position). Reddys are definitely not more
represented in ministerial positions when compared to their strength in the
assembly.
7) Congress is atleast giving chance to another person, when one chief minister
proved in-efficient. There is no alternative to NTR for 7-years of his
misrule/curruption/nepotism/casteism/sHava poojalu/vEsha MAarpidulu and what
not.
8) In your mail, you asked that why every caste is pitted against kammas. You
have to tell me why is that. Why there is more anti-kamma feeling among other
castes for just 7-year rule of NTR than anti-reddy feeling for whatever number
of years that reddy's were chief-ministers. I feel, these feelings just din't
arise like that, it is because of the actions/policies/rule of that Govt, it
is bacause of some fundamental castiest people like you in that party
who suddenly tasted the power and misused it and made every one feel that
all Kammas are like you.
NTR`s 7-year rule is the most castiest rule that AP has ever had.
Definitely not congress rule as you have mentioned.
9) If people din't like the present government, let them not elect it. Let the
people elect whatever the government they want (CONG/BJP/TDP/CPI/CPM/SP/BSP),
whoever they want (let him be a reddy/raju/brahmin/kapu/kamma/BC/SC/ST/ or
any) and let the MLAs elect whoever they want to be their representative as
CM.
So, stop cribbing about reddys.
post/re-post your opinions on the net.
Kodandarami Reddy Devarapalli.
Sekhar Muddana
>I had these unanswered genuine questions about AP politics stinging me
>for a while. May be some kind, knowledgeable soul can enlighten me here
>on the net.
I will try to answer a few of these questions to the best of my
knowledge and express my opinion on a few others.
>Ever since AP was formed, I noticed the political scene was dominated
>by Reddys. Most of the Chief Ministers and disproportionate # of
>ministerial berths in every cabinet went to Reddys.
>Now the questions, not necessarily the top XX list.
>1) What percentage of AP population are Reddys.
It so happens that Reddys are the single largest (by a huge margin)
forward caste in the A.P. State, even though they are only about 14% of
the Andhra population.
However, they do dominate all three regions of Andhra to a certain
extent.
Let me add the percentages of a few other so called FCs. Kammas 6-7%,
Brahmins 5%, Vaisyas 3%. Please correct me if I am wrong.
>2) Why is it that most of the chief ministers are Reddys. Is it
> because they are smarter than people from other castes or
Well, they have a tradition of being a ruling class, for example
Kondaviti Reddy raajulu.
> is it just plain nepotism
> May be some political guru can post all CM names in order here.
>3) Why the disproportionate number of Reddys in every AP cabinet
> and most importantly, how come none of the other castes brahmins,
> kapus, kammas, Rajus and others complain about it.
This question was partly answered by other nettors. Reddys dominate the
Assembly and hence dominate the cabinet.
>4) Why is it that TDP was brought down on corruption charges by these
> corrupted Cong(I) who made Chenna Reddy CM of AP who should be
> honored with the Most Corrupted Politician (MCP ala MVP) on this
> planet. Isn't it the height of hypocricy.
It is not just corruption that brought TDP down.
>5) Why do Cong(I) keep recycling these corrupt politicians Chenna
> Reddy, et al when they should have been dumped in garbage. Is it
> because they take people of AP for granted.
Yadha praja, thadha raja. If people are corrupt then the leaders will be
corrupt too. If they are not, they will be brought down.
>6) Why is it that Cong in AP became synonymous with Reddys
If you stick with Congi for too long, you may become a PM, CM or at least
a governer someday.
>7) Why is NTR accused of casteism, when in reality kammas didn't benefit
> at all and who felt they were better off in Cong(I) rule. Is it
> because the rest of the junta fell into the trap laid by Reddys
> pitting kammas against other castes.
Politicians use many tactics to grab power. Winning is the only thing
that matters. If you can't play (dirty), get lost.
>8) Why Reddys are not accused of nepotism and casteism by other castes
> when they blatantly fill the cabinet and other positions of power in
> govt with Reddys. Is it because others do not stoop down so low as
> Reddys who will do anything to latch on to power.
>9) Is it time for other castes kapus, brahmins, kammas etc to wake up to
> the reality and demand equal representation in AP politics and call
> for the end of Reddy nepotism
>10)Is the recent Jalagam Vengal Rao's lashout in khammam at Reddy rule
> in AP the beginning of the end of Reddy Raj in AP. Did Jalagam finally
> got sick of the situation and called for the end of Reddy Raj in AP.
>11) If Cong(I) comes back to power, can we assume the next 3 or 4 Chief
> Ministers will be some TOM, DICK & HARRY Reddys in that order.
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I think it is time to do away with caste system totally.
I agree with with one of our prominent nettors who said that caste is
irrelavent in this modern world. It is absurd to bring caste politics to
this country. I have few ideas for moving towards a casteless society.
1) Reservations should be based on economy/history of oppression as
opposed to caste.
2) Those who don't like caste system should get rid of/not use
Reddy/Shastry/Sharma/Murthy/Choudhary in names. I will further suggest
that we should put wrong caste names to confuse the matter for a few
generations.
3) Encourage intercaste marriages.
4) At least, don't import caste politics from A.P.
5) Change family names which may give out your caste.
Thanks for reading through.
Sekhar
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S.K. Jagarlamudi
: I had these unanswered genuine questions about AP politics stinging me
: for a while. May be some kind, knowledgeable soul can enlighten me here
: on the net.
: Ever since AP was formed, I noticed the political scene was dominated
: by Reddys. Most of the Chief Ministers and disproportionate # of
: ministerial berths in every cabinet went to Reddys.
True, among the forward castes in AP, Reddys are the largest, if you don't include Naidus, which consists of kapu, thelaga and balija. But then balija is again backward caste and in the southern coastal districts and rayalaseema no one uses kapu, it is just balija. I'm not sure if all the balija are considered a backward caste. As from the borders of Guntur Dt. onwards and in Rayalaseema there exist only two kinds of Naidu, 1) Balija Naidu and 2) Kamma Naidu.
: Now the questions, not necessarily the top XX list.
: 1) What percentage of AP population are Reddys.
Around 10%
: 2) Why is it that most of the chief ministers are Reddys. Is it
: because they are smarter than people from other castes or
: is it just plain nepotism
Nepotism ? I don't think so. I'm sure Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy has nothing to do with Brahmananda Reddy or Chenna Reddy or Janardhan Reddy for that matter. As mentioned before their population is more than any other forward caste's in AP. Besides right from the beginning mostly the rich were involved in politics, be it panchayat or whatever. Relatively few poor people were involved. Also earlier during the british rule, only the land owners had the right to vote.
: May be some political guru can post all CM names in order here.
Not sure about the right order, but hopefully i'll cover all.
Prakasam Panthulu (brahmin), Neelam Sanjeeva Reddy (Reddy), Damodaram Sanjeevayya (SC, sorry do not know which caste though), P.V. Narasimha Rao (brahmin), Kasu Brahmananda Reddy (Reddy), Jalagam Vengal Rao (velama), Marri Chenna Reddy ( Reddy), T. Anjaiah (reddy),Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy (Reddy), NTR(kamma), Nadhendla Bhaskara Rao (kamma), NTR(again), Chenna Reddy, Janardhan Reddy and Vijaya Bhaskara Reddy.
: 3) Why the disproportionate number of Reddys in every AP cabinet
: and most importantly, how come none of the other castes brahmins,
: kapus, kammas, Rajus and others complain about it.
As their population is more, hence their majority in the cabinet. there are hardly any rajus/kshatriyas in AP. In fact I want to know the kings of AP and what castes they belonged too right from the Satavahanas or before.
: 4) Why is it that TDP was brought down on corruption charges by these
: corrupted Cong(I) who made Chenna Reddy CM of AP who should be
: honored with the Most Corrupted Politician (MCP ala MVP) on this
: planet. Isn't it the height of hypocricy.
TDP was not brought down because of corruption charges. They lost owing to a lot of reasons. I think the major reasons for TDP's loss would be NGOs and Vangaveeti Mohana Ranga.
: 5) Why do Cong(I) keep recycling these corrupt politicians Chenna
: Reddy, et al when they should have been dumped in garbage. Is it
: because they take people of AP for granted.
It's because the people are forgiving and nothing else. As corrupt as Janardha Reddy and Chenna Reddy are, I think they're good administrators. Can't say that about PVN, who was supposed to be more interested in poetry than politicking then.
: 6) Why is it that Cong in AP became synonymous with Reddys
Always heard from people everywhere that it was the brahmins who voted en bloc and not the Reddys for congress. There were more Reddys in NTR's cabinet than kammas.
: 7) Why is NTR accused of casteism, when in reality kammas didn't benefit
: at all and who felt they were better off in Cong(I) rule. Is it
: because the rest of the junta fell into the trap laid by Reddys
: pitting kammas against other castes.
Cong(I) comes up with all kinds of excuses. They suppressed SCs in the entire cow belt. In AP it is entirely different though. The SCs were brought up as the Cong then knew that the forward castes or atleast percentage wise, most of them were against the Cong. They pampered other castes just for their own goals and not for anything else.
: 8) Why Reddys are not accused of nepotism and casteism by other castes
: when they blatantly fill the cabinet and other positions of power in
: govt with Reddys. Is it because others do not stoop down so low as
: Reddys who will do anything to latch on to power.
if Brahmananda Reddy was not accused of nepotism, or for that matter chenna reddy whose sons were part and parcel of everything he did after he came back again was not accused then it is a misfortune. In fact everyone did. No wonder most of them are in politics.
: 9) Is it time for other castes kapus, brahmins, kammas etc to wake up to
: the reality and demand equal representation in AP politics and call
: for the end of Reddy nepotism
I'm sure everyone would bring their children in. The people should know better than that to vote for some corrupt politician.
: 10)Is the recent Jalagam Vengal Rao's lashout in khammam at Reddy rule
: in AP the beginning of the end of Reddy Raj in AP. Did Jalagam finally
: got sick of the situation and called for the end of Reddy Raj in AP.
didn't know he lashed out. probably because no one cares for him anymore?
: 11) If Cong(I) comes back to power, can we assume the next 3 or 4 Chief
: Ministers will be some TOM, DICK & HARRY Reddys in that order.
depends on the popularity and the seniority of the leader. I don't think Rajshekhar Reddy will ever become the CM. that will be the day!
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hi,
Suppose somebody wrote a biased article. Why dont people just ignore it Instead of starting flame wars.
I think I will see a lot of replies to oyur arricle and then a lot more replies to those and we will be back at square one.(Fighting with each other).
Hope It doesn't happen atleast for the net's sake
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