The Roop Kanwar tragedy.
Kulbir
Taken from soc.culture.indian.karnataka
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Roop kanwar was a 17 yr.old girl who was married to a rich guy with
mental instability.One year after marriage,this guy committed suicide
because he could not get into medical school.Roop Kanwar being from
a rich family had brought in lot of dowry.So what do the inlaws do now.
They had a meeting and passed a resolution that Roop had to commit Sati
to bring honour for her family and in laws.
Roop kanwar ran away and hid in a barn.Her brothers in law hunted
her down and dragged her home,gave a good thrashing,stripped her and
dressed her in red dress,supposed to be bridal wear.Roop begged and
cried to atleast wait till her parents reached the place.So the in laws
summoned a Doctor who was a family friend and he drugged her so that she
could'nt talk or shout anymore.
Her male in laws half dragged her towards the funeral pyre and eye
witnesses testified that she was heavily bruised and bleeding and
frothing from the mouth.She was thrown on her husbands dead body and
heavy logs placed on her such that she could'nt move and the funeral
pyre was lit.
Meanwhile hundreds of villagers had gathered to watch the "tamasha"
and shouted Sati mata ki jai.When she was half burnt, she did manage to
wriggle out of the pyre but the men standing nearby pushed her back and
held her down with iron poles till she died and kept pouring shuddha
ghee so that the process will be completed soon.
When the process was complete they collected some half burnt metal
bangles and made a make shift temple for their honourable daughter in
law who had revived Sanatana Dharma and their family pride.
When her relatives reached the spot, the in laws told them the truth
and her relatives also realised that instead of having to bear the
"humiliation" of being a young widows family,they were now blood
relatives of Sati mata Roop Kanwar, and supported their
sambandhi'saction.
Meanwhile Deorala became a pilgrimage center and the villagers made
quite a lot of money organising Sati melas ,Sati Bhajans and Sati Camel
rides.
And what did the local BJP leaders do? they organised massive rallies
to support "sati" and warned the central Govt. and Rajiv Gandhi not to
meddle in the "religious" affairs of Hindus or risk Rajasthan being
turned into another Punjab.
Kalyan Singh Kalvi said on Doordarshan that what she did was her
'indivisual dishishan' and on being asked why an 18 yr.old widow
can't remarry and continue to live normally,he says that no woman should
marry twice even if husband is dead, it is against Sanatana Dharma.
Meanwhile some half nude swamiji's were invited by BJP to talk in
massive gathering's of devoted hindus where the Swamijis praised 'sati
mata' and invited all faithful wives to follow her eg.
In the elections following this incident BJP had a clean sweep thanksto
'revival'of 'sanatana dharma' by widow murderers,and the BJP 'warning'
concerned hindus that the Central govt. being run by a Parsi is out
to destroy hinduism by banning the noble act of 'sati'which is the right
and duty of every pativratha hindu woman.They criticised the congress
for trying to imprison the in laws of "sati mata" who helped her to
achieve moksha.
In the following investigation many villagers volunteered to
testify against the murderers and many of them testified too,but were
beaten and threatened with dire consequences by saffron goons and 'all'
the witnesses for the state suddenly turned into 'hostile' witnesses
and withdrew their testimony.
This is the BJP/VHP/RSS brand of Rama Rajya they are promising
Indians.Taliban fades in comparison.
After another 25 yrs.saffron brigade will deny that the 'sati'incident
ever occured in Deorala.
rama.pi...@asu.edu
Kulbir (kul...@xvnews.unconfigured.domain) wrote:
: Taken from soc.culture.indian.karnataka
: Roop kanwar was a 17 yr.old girl who was married to a rich guy with
: mental instability.
She is niether the first one nor will she be the last one to mary a rich
guy with mental instability ;-)
Thanks, Kulbir for sharing this. Still wondering what we can do about your
ilk who want to educate us, the unwilling lot, of all the sorry
things in life. Other than ask you to look at the bright side of life a
bit in general once in a while. It can do you good and us a lot of good
if it does you good and thereby leave us alone on SCIT who are capable of
educating ourselves of all sorry things that happen in India outside of
this state called Andhra Pradesh if we want to. Thanks again.
Regards,
Ramakrishna.
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brao
In article <6cgjmj$kr1$3...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
Kulbir <kul...@xvnews.unconfigured.domain> wrote:
>
>
>Taken from soc.culture.indian.karnataka
So, basically these are just the words of someone who posted in
soc.culture.indian.karnataka, am I right? You just took that posting
and kindly reproduced it in soc.culture.indian.telugu for some purpose
of your own, yes?
Tell us, do these words have any relationship to the facts of the
case? And what is the basis for asserting that relationship? Please
enlighten. Thank you.
My personal views.
Bapa Rao
Kulbir Singh
rama.pi...@asu.edu wrote:
: Kulbir (kul...@xvnews.unconfigured.domain) wrote:
: : Taken from soc.culture.indian.karnataka
The issue has been discussed periodically several times in the past. To save
time please let me know of any new parameters which have entered the
equation since last time when we discussed this issue.
Please note that "You must have become wiser" isn't good enough.
regards,
kulbir singh
: Regards,
: Ramakrishnt
: --
rama.pi...@asu.edu
In article <6ctaj4$o3l$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
kbh...@sfu.ca (Kulbir Singh) wrote:
>
> rama.pi...@asu.edu wrote:
> : Kulbir (kul...@xvnews.unconfigured.domain) wrote:
>
> : : Taken from soc.culture.indian.karnataka
>
> : : Roop kanwar was a 17 yr.old girl who was married to a rich guy with
> : : mental instability.
>
> : She is niether the first one nor will she be the last one to mary a rich
> : guy with mental instability ;-)
>
> : Thanks, Kulbir for sharing this. Still wondering what we can do about
your
> : ilk who want to educate us, the unwilling lot, of all the sorry
> : things in life. Other than ask you to look at the bright side of life a
> : bit in general once in a while. It can do you good and us a lot of good
> : if it does you good and thereby leave us alone on SCIT who are capable of
> : educating ourselves of all sorry things that happen in India outside of
> : this state called Andhra Pradesh if we want to. Thanks again.
>
> The issue has been discussed periodically several times in the past. To
save
> time please let me know of any new parameters which have entered the
> equation since last time when we discussed this issue.
About ROOP Kanwar? or about Cross-Posting?? If former I don't knwo and
honestly don't care. Later? You are still a pain in the butt! Wasting
politeness on you has been just that.
> Please note that "You must have become wiser" isn't good enough.
I don't think so! ;-) Don't flatter tourself. Nice try. 'You are still a
pain" is what I have to say. Is that good enough? ;-)
> kulbir singh
>
> : Regards,
> : Ramakrishna
> : --
Ramakrishna.
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>
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Kulbir Singh
rama.pi...@asu.edu wrote:
: In article <6ctaj4$o3l$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
Thanks for sharing your views with the readers. We are on the net to share
information and reason. Pain and pleasure are highly subjective feelings
and it is difficult for anybody to surpass the pain caused by Brahmanical
mumbo-jumbo to the civilized world.
regards,
kulbir singh
: > kulbir singh
Kulbir Singh
brao (br...@pollux.usc.edu) wrote:
: In article <6cgjmj$kr1$3...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
: Kulbir <kul...@xvnews.unconfigured.domain> wrote:
: >
: >
: >Taken from soc.culture.indian.karnataka
: So, basically these are just the words of someone who posted in
: soc.culture.indian.karnataka, am I right? You just took that posting
: and kindly reproduced it in soc.culture.indian.telugu for some purpose
: of your own, yes?
Yes I took the posting from soc.culture.indian.karnataka and posted it to
SCIT. There is no mystery about the purpose. It is simple and straight
forward. I have come to firmly believe that BJP/Brahmanism are very
dangerous for the civilized world. Whenever I see something which exposes
these dangers and I have some spare time I try to share the information
with as many people as I can.
: Tell us, do these words have any relationship to the facts of the
: case? And what is the basis for asserting that relationship? Please
: enlighten. Thank you.
I don't underestimate the intelligence of internet readers. I think they
I don't underestimate the intelligence of internet readers. I think they
can judge for themselves any explicit or implicit relationship between
the posting and facts. The bottom line (for me) is to highlight the
Brahmanical crimes of BJP thugs and their collaborators within the time I
can spare for the net.
kulbir singh
: My personal views.
: Bapa Rao
Raghu Seshadri
Kulbir Singh (kbh...@sfu.ca) wrote:
....
: and it is difficult for anybody to surpass the pain caused by Brahmanical
: mumbo-jumbo to the civilized world.
Congrats, Kulbir, for accomplishing this
difficult task :-)
RS
Kulbir Singh
Raghu Seshadri (sesh...@cse.ucsc.edu) wrote:
: Kulbir Singh (kbh...@sfu.ca) wrote:
"Shudra should never gather riches, because a rich shudra will
bother brahmins (manu ch8 s.79)"
: RS
Raghu Seshadri
Kulbir Singh (kbh...@sfu.ca) wrote:
: : : and it is difficult for anybody to surpass the pain caused by Brahmanical
:
: : Congrats, Kulbir, for accomplishing this
: : difficult task :-)
:
: "Shudra should never gather riches, because a rich shudra will
: bother brahmins (manu ch8 s.79)"
"The hindu religion and Islam will both be
destroyed, and only the Sikhs will rule" - Dasam Granth , according to
G.S.Samra
RS
rama.pi...@asu.edu
In article <6d2c6j$3pe$1...@morgoth.sfu.ca>,
kbh...@sfu.ca (Kulbir Singh) wrote:
>
> Raghu Seshadri (sesh...@cse.ucsc.edu) wrote:
> : Kulbir Singh (kbh...@sfu.ca) wrote:
>
> : ....
> : : Brahmanical mumbo-jumbo to the civilized world.
>
> : Congrats, Kulbir, for accomplishing this difficult task :-)
>
> "Shudra should never gather riches, because a rich shudra will
> bother brahmins (manu ch8 s.79)"
"Poor Shudras will bother rich Shudras(as hacs been evidenced many a time)
(Rama ch2 s.98)"
> : RS
Kulbir Singh
: :
: : : Congrats, Kulbir, for accomplishing this
: : : difficult task :-)
: :
: : "Shudra should never gather riches, because a rich shudra will
: : bother brahmins (manu ch8 s.79)"
: "The hindu religion and Islam will both be
: destroyed, and only the Sikhs will rule" - Dasam Granth , according to
: G.S.Samra
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I thought we were comparing the
pain caused by Kulbir Singh, one individual, and Brahmanical mumbo-jumbo
of 5000 years.
regards,
kulbir singh
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ps: I wonder why my postings didn't appear yesterday. I will try a few times
today and if they don't make it I will have no option but to bring the
matter to the attention of wider Indian readership.
: RS
rama.pi...@asu.edu
Kulbir Singh (kbh...@sfu.ca) wrote:
: rama.pi...@asu.edu wrote:
: : > The issue has been discussed periodically several times in the past. To
: : save
: : > time please let me know of any new parameters which have entered the
: : > equation since last time when we discussed this issue.
: : About ROOP Kanwar? or about Cross-Posting?? If former I don't knwo and
: : honestly don't care. Later? You are still a pain in the butt! Wasting
: : politeness on you has been just that.
: : > Please note that "You must have become wiser" isn't good enough.
: : I don't think so! ;-) Don't flatter tourself. Nice try. 'You are still a
: : pain" is what I have to say. Is that good enough? ;-)
: Thanks for sharing your views with the readers. We are on the net to share
: information and reason. Pain and pleasure are highly subjective feelings
: and it is difficult for anybody to surpass the pain caused by Brahmanical
: mumbo-jumbo to the civilized world.
Well I am gald you made it your life's mission to spread pain felt by
others long time ago elsewhere, to all of us on the net. What can I say?
Can't say happy suffering cause you are inflicting it on us in the name
of sharing info and reason. And you also made it your life's mission NOT
to listen to reason about other's NOT wanting to share the info you want
to force down our throats with well written charters of why these New
groups are formed.
Again... don't faltter yourself w.r.t reason and your lofty goal of sharing
information.
: kulbir singh
Ramakrishna.
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Kulbir Singh
rama.pi...@asu.edu wrote:
Thanks again for letting readers know your views. All of this has been
repeatedly discussed on SCIT with a liberal use of swearings, insults
and name calling. Please feel free to express yourself if there is
something new.
regards,
kulbir singh
: : kulbir singh
: Ramakrishna.
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