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Jan 30, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/30/99
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No government maintain records of such incidents...in India...like the
western governments..

Illiterate India cannot practice this kind of openness!

SB wrote:
>
> We dont pretend that such atrocities are not happing where is your evidence.
> All articles written in India about incest is written by Indians not by
> westerners.
>
> SB
>
> pallavan wrote in message <36B145CE...@home.com>...
> >Incest is legalized in Islam but Hindus pretend that is not happening in
> >Hindu society!
> >
> >jeha...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Unfortunately, incest was introduced in India with Islam. The history
> >> of incest in Islam started with Mohammed who married his daughter in
> >> law Zeinab bent Jahesh in the presence of her husband Zeid.
> >>
> >> On Thu, 28 Jan 1999 12:29:49 -0500, Sid Harth
> >> <gautama...@malexcite.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > My dear Haran,
> >> >
> >> > I thank you for your post. India incest is not limited to one
> >> >religious, caste, social strata, urban or rural poor or rich sections.
> >> >It is prevalent among the rich and powerful as well. Very rich Gujarati
> >> >family of Ahmedabad, very western oriented, highly educated, prominent
> >> >in arts asnd theater, brother and sister were having sex. I was asked of
> >> >their behavior and I replied that in modern days people don't do such
> >> >things but in ancient times in India as well as Egypt couples like these
> >> >existed and social sanctions were obtained.
> >> >
> >> > Cousin marriage, marriage between uncles and nieces is so common in
> >> >India and Pakistan that it is considered a safe, secure and most
> >> >preferred alliance. The term "maamaajii," for father-in-law, is in
> >> >reality actual family relation turned a term.
> >> >
> >> > marrying sister of a diseased wife is very common. Marrying a younger
> >> >brother of a dead husband, not only younger to the dead brother but
> >> >younger to the marrying woman is very common. In Aryan scriptures all
> >> >kinds of instances show that an elder or younger person was selected to
> >> >beget children of a woman whose husband died accidentally or in wars.
> >> >God Brahma is said to have had sexual copulation with his own daughter,
> >> >Saraswati. This sort of thing was done with utmost regard to the family
> >> >values. Woman was married to the clan, not necessarily to one member,
> >> >exclusively of the clan.
> >> >
> >> > Famous Pandavas had one wife shared equally among five brothers who
> >> >were born to three mothers and one father. Incest was considered a taboo
> >> >after the progeny of such alliances started showing typical inbreeding
> >> >signs of cretins, idiots, blind, deaf, and many such inbreeding
> >> >problems. The recessive genes are present among all closely knit clans.
> >> >When sanctioned or unsanctioned alliances take place, some recessive
> >> >genes which remain dormant for hundreds of years resurface.
> >> >
> >> > Sid
> >> >
> >> >http://www.comebackkid.com/views.html
> >> >
> >> >har...@hotmail.com wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> BBC News
> >> >> World: South Asia
> >> >>
> >> >> India's hidden incest
> >> >>
> >> >> By South Asia Correspondent Daniel Lak
> >> >>
> >> >> Close-knit family life in India masks an alarming amount of sexual
> abuse of
> >> >> children and teenage girls by family members, a new report suggests.
> >> >>
> >> >> Delhi organisation RAHI said 76% of respondents to its survey had been
> abused
> >> >> when they were children - 40% of those by a family member.
> >> >>
> >> >> The report suggests that disbelief, denial and cover-up to preserve
> the family
> >> >> reputation is often put before the individual child.
> >> >>
> >> >> Women who gave evidence to RAHI spoke of the nightmare of abuse that
> haunts
> >> >> them still.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Every time my parents went out to a party the bastard used to do it,"
> said
> >> >> one.
> >> >>
> >> >> Another said: "When I told people in my family about the abuse there
> was
> >> >> hostility, contempt and anger targeted at me - I became an outcast."
> >> >>
> >> >> RAHI founder Anjua Gupta said she set up the organisation because she
> >> >> believed sexual abuse was rampant in Indian families and no one was
> doing
> >> >> anything about it.
> >> >>
> >> >> "When I started working in this area people used to say 'Where are the
> Indian
> >> >> statistics?'. It was thought of as a Western phenomenon.
> >> >>
> >> >> "One of the reasons there hasn't been any data collection is because
> it is not
> >> >> considered to be an Indian problem."
> >> >>
> >> >> The report, Voices from the Silent Zone, suggests that nearly
> three-quarters
> >> >> of upper and middle class Indian women are abused by a family member -
> more
> >> >> than often an uncle, a cousin or an elder brother.
> >> >>
> >> >> Disbelief, denial and cover-up
> >> >>
> >> >> Incest and child sexual abuse occurs everywhere.
> >> >>
> >> >> Psychiatrist Achal Baghat says the particular problem in India is that
> the
> >> >> concept of family is almost sacred, and abuse, if it happens, is met
> with
> >> >> disbelief.
> >> >>
> >> >> "I think there is a great myth about Indian family systems being
> supportive,"
> >> >> he says.
> >> >>
> >> >> "What do you do if you're the mother in a family where the child is
> being
> >> >> abused? You do not have that much power to do anything about the
> abuse.
> >> >>
> >> >> "Generally there is this thing about harming the name of the family.
> This need
> >> >> to prevent the family being laughed at leads to a lot of cover-ups."
> >> >>
> >> >> Women on a pedestal
> >> >>
> >> >> Activists in the field say the position of women in India is another
> problem.
> >> >> Society puts them on a pedestal as mothers and wives, but doesn't
> allow for
> >> >> their protection from domestic abuse.
> >> >>
> >> >> Voices from the Silent Zone pinpoints another problem facing victims
> of abuse
> >> >> in India - the complete absence of any structure outside the family to
> help
> >> >> with abuse.
> >> >>
> >> >> Achal Baghat says he often faces the grimmest of choices when
> considering how
> >> >> to help the victim.
> >> >>
> >> >> "What is there if not the family? Where are the other support systems?
> There
> >> >> aren't any. There might be a few NGOs working in India - but can they
> really
> >> >> cope?
> >> >>
> >> >> "The juvenile homes, the social support system is so lacking and so
> >> >> insensitive to the children, that I wouldn't be sure what is worse -
> to stay
> >> >> with an abusive family, or the environment the system would put them
> in."
> >> >>
> >> >> Changing the law
> >> >>
> >> >> In India, there is no specific law covering sexual abuse of children
> by
> >> >> strangers, let alone by family members. The legal definition of rape
> calls for
> >> >> proof that the rapist actually penetrated a victim, even a young
> child.
> >> >>
> >> >> Judges have even said that it is impossible for fathers to rape their
> >> >> daughters, despite evidence to the contrary.
> >> >>
> >> >> In the end, all Indian counsellors and activists can do to help
> victims of
> >> >> abuse is convince them that nothing has been their fault; that they
> are a
> >> >> survivor of a damaging, but not necessarily fatal experience, and they
> can
> >> >> continue to live life - never forgetting what happened to them, but
> getting on
> >> >> with it.
> >> >>
> >> >> Everyone who works with victims and survivors of abuse agrees that
> awareness
> >> >> begins in the schoolyard. But in a profoundly conservative society
> like India,
> >> >> raising such sensitive issues in school would be controversial.
> >> >>
> >> >> The chances that more than half of India's schoolgirls have
> experienced or
> >> >> will experience sexual abuse remain very high.
> >> >>
> >>
> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> -------
> >> >>
> >> >> Family facts of the abused
> >> >>
> >> >> 68% were living in nuclear families
> >> >> 16% in semi-joint families (nuclear and grandparents)
> >> >> 15% in joint families (extended)
> >> >> Mothers of the abused
> >> >>
> >> >> Despite common perception that the mothers of abused children were
> working,
> >> >> the report said that of those surveyed who said they were abused, 60%
> of
> >> >> mothers were housewives and 40% were employed.
> >> >>
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SB

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Feb 1, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/1/99
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Obviously there may be a link between illiteracy and incest. But if that's
is the holy truth then we shouldn't have incest in the US or UK. But we do
have incest and pedophilia all over the world. Certain cultures do sanction
incest and pedophilia as the ancient Egyptian and Greek cultures which
promoted both. Many modern cultures do sanction incest and pedophilia. But I
can assure you that in literate orthodox Hindu culture, incest is frowned
upon since ancient days. There is no religious or cultural sanction for any
Hindu group any where in the world for incest or pedophilia. But this is not
to deny that there are individuals who profess to being Hindus who are
involved in incest and paedophillia. But just like other sinners they are
morally weak human beings (if we can call them as such) who need to be
imprisoned till death frees them.

SB

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deve...@gmail.com

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Really?

Jack Sacco

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On Sunday, February 3, 2019 at 9:35:03 AM UTC+5:30, deve...@gmail.com wrote:
> Really?
do u want 5 crore india money?
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