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theChandra

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Jun 20, 2002, 1:48:35 AM6/20/02
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Have just found differing articles heatedly arguing the origins of the
Nayars, which I am trying to research and posted arequest not answered
to some time ago. One point arises which is why there seems to be a
lack of primary source material from the Nayars themselves given they
were a literate and educated population? I can think of answers but
has anyone else got ideas (in fact is it correct)? Is this what
explains the vast, increasing and incredibly differing theories as to
their origins, matriliny, tharavad system, etc? In which case is it
only the last 80 years or so of Nayar history that counts having
re-invented themselves as the academic/professional class following
the breakdown of whatever system thay had before? Or is that wrong -
are/were they in fact more disparate class-wise?

a

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Jun 22, 2002, 6:25:58 AM6/22/02
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Remember a book by Robin Jeffrey (sp?), "Decline of Nair Dominance in
Kerala", or something to that effect. Maybe you can peruse that to find
out more ... do a search on amazon.com if you are really interested.

Reghu R

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Jun 25, 2002, 3:54:21 AM6/25/02
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> I am a student of linguistics in Stuttgart, Germany, and I have to write
> about the influence of gender to a language. in germany (and western
> world) the patriachalic system, this means the masculin gender,
> influence the language. For example, the plural word for many people,
> including female, is a masculine word. Masculin words are used for both
> gender, feminine words only for feminine. My question to you: I have
> heard about the Nayars of Kerala, this should be a matriarchy system. Is
> this right, do you know something about them, and have they their own
> language, it must be Malayalam. How produce this language gender and
> plural forms??? Which gender is dominating???
> Please send answers to: wo...@studbox.uni-stuttgart.de
> Thank a lot
> Britta

Indian society is so complex and I think you are mistaken.

Present day malayalam is so young and present day (present generation)
Nairs also follows
patriarchy system. Keralites change their life style too rapidly and
they easily adapt
to new situations.

Evenif nairs are dominant(in last hundred years), they are less than
20% of population
of Kerala.
So their influence on Malayalam languge might
be less. Like rest of India, tendacy of Hindus(people who do not
belong to Muslim, Christian, Budhisam etc.) is to immitate Brahmins
who strictly follow
patriarchy system. Non-Brahmin hindus has a kind of inferirty complex,
so they usually
evade qustions concered their Caste.

Just like patriarchy system, Matriarchy system also has its own
advatanges
and disadvantages.

Malayalam is a dialect of Ancient Tamil with a lot of corruption by
Sanskrit,
Persian, Arabi, Portguese, English and Hindi.

Sexist nature of English and Malayalam are similiar.
Verb does not change with sex of subject/object ( as in the case of
Hindi/Tamil)
Malayalam does not enforce strict grammar rules.
Plural of feminine words and masculine words are diffrent.
Plural of masculine words are also rarely used
for plural for many people(including females).

To stress presence of Females in many-people-words, malayalam uses
separate words
which is composed
of singular female word and plural masculine word.

Like Telugu, Some dialects use 'it' for 'she',
but it is not acceptable for written form.

Malayalam has neutral sex words like the english word 'people'.

Malayalam has no masculine form for vergin and prostitute.


Lackdweep People are female dominated society. Lackdweep Malayalam may
give you some clue.

Female domination is diffrent from male domination. I think female
domination
allows male domination which is fully controled by females. Stupid
male think he
is controlling the world.

VT

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Jun 25, 2002, 9:40:07 AM6/25/02
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I might be wrong here, but Malayalam nouns have no gender, just like
English.

Venu

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Reghu R

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Jun 26, 2002, 3:41:43 AM6/26/02
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You are right. But for words like men, man, ladies, lady,
malayalam has diffrent words and such words has gender.
But not like hindi, malayalam words for fire, house etc., words have no gender.

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