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Who are the PILLAIs of Kerala?

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nanthica

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Apr 15, 2002, 4:55:42 AM4/15/02

Who are the people called them as PILLAI in Kerala?
Are they all farmers by caste?
Are there any fisherman caste also in the name of PILLAI?

Prabhu Srinivas

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Apr 15, 2002, 5:45:25 AM4/15/02

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> Who are the people called them as PILLAI in Kerala?
> Are they all farmers by caste?
> Are there any fisherman caste also in the name of PILLAI?

i think the people of the fisherman community are classified as SCs...
pillais are not SCs.

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subu

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Apr 15, 2002, 9:46:19 AM4/15/02

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Pillais were henchmen of Travancore King.They were fighters.One set of
pillais were killed(Yettuvettil pillamar) by Marthanda Varma and their
house(YettuVeddu) was made a pond(PadmaTheertham) when they tried
hatch a plan to eliminate Marthanda Verma.So Most likely the
descendends of these pillai are still pillai.And then there is another
set of pillais in Tamil Nadu.I am not sure if they have any links
culturally.Mostly except for the surname they are different.

M. Ranjit Mathews

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Apr 15, 2002, 11:08:18 AM4/15/02

"nanthica" <nant...@accessv.com> wrote ...

> Who are the people called them as PILLAI in Kerala?
> Are they all farmers by caste?

Pillis are Nayars by caste. Nayar is not an occupational caste, so
they are not all of any particular occupation.

> Are there any fisherman caste also in the name of PILLAI?

If there are fishermen with the name, they might be Nayars.

K.Kunju

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Apr 15, 2002, 11:14:50 AM4/15/02

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> "nanthica" <nant...@accessv.com> wrote in message
> news:AAwu8.1433$eC.142047@localhost...
>
> > Who are the people called them as PILLAI in Kerala?
> > Are they all farmers by caste?
> > Are there any fisherman caste also in the name of PILLAI?
>
> i think the people of the fisherman community are classified as SCs...
> pillais are not SCs.
>
> love,
> prabhu.

The surname Pillai is used by different castes, and there are even
Christians with names that have Pillai as the suffix (for example,
Chandapillai). Some in the Vellala community (they settled in Kerala
but by tradition they do not appear to be Malayalees) also use the
surname Pillai. Similarly some Tamil people have Pillai as the
surname. In Kerala Pillai is a subset of Nairs just as Kurup, Menon,
Panikkar etc are. Kurups were involved in the martial arts and Menons
were usually accountants and they are more common in the northern half
of Kerala. Pillais were also accountants and are equivalent to
Menons but they are common in southern Kerala.

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Apr 15, 2002, 12:14:39 PM4/15/02

the PILLAIs (also spelled as PILLAY) are from kerala as well as tamil
nadu!!! surprise!!! not all PILLAI/Ys are from kerala. some are from
TN. however, from what i understand, the malayalee PILLAIs are not
the same people as the TN people.

the tamil PILLAIs are a sub-sect of the VELLALAs (also spelled as
VALLALA) who are from the farming community. the vellala pillai are a
'forward caste'.

there are many types of VELLALAs from what i understand: mudaliers,
saiva pillais.

the NAIR PILLAI community are from kerala. they are a 'forward
caste'. like i mentioned, the NAIRs (also spelled as NAYAR) are not
related to the TN PILLAIs. from what i gather, they are a little
'higher' than the tamil PILLAIs.

Dhanraj Pillai is the captain of the cricket team, and he is a PILLAI
from Kerala (not sure if he's a nair or a not).

the tamil PILLAIs are indigenous to the south of tamil nadu (i think).
because of the close proximity of the tamil and mallu pillais, this
implies to me that the tamil PILLAIS and the mallu PILLAIs were one
and the same before they split.

the chief of the indian army is a PILLAI by caste, and his surname is
"padmanabhan". he's one bad ass. he's an amazing soldier who was
born in trivandrum.

finally, i think that there are many ethnic tamils who are tamil
PILLAIs living in the state of kerala in trivandrum. they'll speak
malayalam, but their ancient ancestors are tamil.

Shishir Yerramilli

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Apr 15, 2002, 1:54:41 PM4/15/02

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> "Prabhu Srinivas" <g_prabhu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<a170f703aaa4c7145c0...@mygate.mailgate.org>...
> > "nanthica" <nant...@accessv.com> wrote in message
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> Pillais were henchmen of Travancore King.They were fighters.One set of
> pillais were killed(Yettuvettil pillamar) by Marthanda Varma and their
> house(YettuVeddu) was made a pond(PadmaTheertham) when they tried
> hatch a plan to eliminate Marthanda Verma.So Most likely the
> descendends of these pillai are still pillai.And then there is another
> set of pillais in Tamil Nadu.I am not sure if they have any links
> culturally.Mostly except for the surname they are different.
>

Pillais in Tamil Nadu are associated with caste of Vellala(land
owners).It would appear that this caste name is associated with more
diverse occupations in Kerala.In Sri Lankan Tamil areas we have
VeluPillai Prabhakaran who is not a Velalla but of a sea pirate
'caste' .It is significant that SL Tamils are said to share closer
ties culturally to Kerala than Tamil Nadu.

nanthica

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Apr 16, 2002, 4:51:06 AM4/16/02

I think this SC & ST are the product for the last 50 years and this is not
relate any history of any castes!

Many Kshatria clans are now in the list of SC and ST!

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nanthica

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Apr 16, 2002, 4:54:05 AM4/16/02

Anybody can do the job of killing like the Yettuvettil pillamar! This is
not giving any real historical background of PILLAIS!

Are these people belong to any Agrarian castes?

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nanthica

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Apr 16, 2002, 4:57:40 AM4/16/02

Vellalas are not the land owners but farmers! During the Vijaya Nagar and
British times these Vellala, who never had a history of fighting for the
land, had became land owners after showing their obedience to British and
VijayaNagar!

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Shishir Yerramilli

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Apr 16, 2002, 2:33:51 PM4/16/02

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> the PILLAIs (also spelled as PILLAY) are from kerala as well as tamil
> nadu!!! surprise!!! not all PILLAI/Ys are from kerala. some are from
> TN. however, from what i understand, the malayalee PILLAIs are not
> the same people as the TN people.
>
> the tamil PILLAIs are a sub-sect of the VELLALAs (also spelled as
> VALLALA) who are from the farming community. the vellala pillai are a
> 'forward caste'.
>
> there are many types of VELLALAs from what i understand: mudaliers,
> saiva pillais.
>
> the NAIR PILLAI community are from kerala. they are a 'forward
> caste'. like i mentioned, the NAIRs (also spelled as NAYAR) are not
> related to the TN PILLAIs. from what i gather, they are a little
> 'higher' than the tamil PILLAIs.
>
> Dhanraj Pillai is the captain of the cricket team, and he is a PILLAI
> from Kerala (not sure if he's a nair or a not).
>

Correction.Dhanraj Pillai is the captain of the hockey team and I
think he is a Christian.

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May 26, 2017, 2:11:42 AM5/26/17

Pillai, meaning Prince, is a title of nobility, which can either refer to a ruling chief, members of ... Pillai became one of the most common titles of dignity held by the Hindu caste of the Nairs of Travancore. The title is equally applicable to women ...

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Jun 28, 2017, 11:35:00 AM6/28/17

tamil pillais are a little higher than nair pillai tamil pillais are not included in sudra.nair pillai and tamil pillai are entirely different in traditions.among vellalar there were farmers kings land owners .

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Jun 28, 2017, 11:41:38 AM6/28/17

among vellalar there were land owners farmers accountants kings .for details refer the book castes and tribes of south india.

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Jul 5, 2017, 4:19:41 AM7/5/17

Velupillai Prabakaran is The leader of Tamil Nationalism ,.

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May 18, 2018, 6:23:50 AM5/18/18

On Wednesday, July 5, 2017 at 4:19:41 PM UTC+8, senap...@gmail.com wrote:
> Velupillai Prabakaran is The leader of Tamil Nationalism ,.

Hi,

PILLAI/PILLAY is an upper caste name used in both Kerala & Tamil Nadu. In Tamil Nadu, PILLAI/PILLAY is a caste name used by the upper caste Vellalar land lords and agriculture workers. In Kerala PILLAI/PILLAY is also a title carried by some upper caste Nair/Nayar families.

In the history of Kerala, when the whole of south India was TAMILAKAM it is mentioned that Vellalar families were brought into Kerala to help in administration work. many of these Vellalars came from Tirunelveli District, TN which shares a border with Kerala and to this day that district in Tamil Nadu has a high number of Vellalar PILLAI/PILLAY. These Vellalars who moved to Kerala eventually intermarried and assimilated into the various sub Nair/Nayar castes. Thus some of the Nairs/Nayars adopted the name PILLAI/PILLAY as a name and title. Also some of the Vellalars in Kerala didn't assimilate into the Nair/Nayar caste and retained their Vellalar identity and today they are members of the Kerala Vellalar Maha Samajam society.

There is an ancestral connection between the Vellalars of Tamil Nadu and with the Vellalars of Kerala and the Vellalars that assimilated into the Nair/Nayar communities. Some of their culture and home language may differ/change after hundreds of years but they originate from the same lineage. All these communities have similarities in that they are industrious in agriculture, business, learning and administration. Many notable writers from both Kerala and Tamil Nadu are PILLAI/PILLAY, and they have retained their social standing as Forward caste people.

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Dec 2, 2018, 10:01:43 AM12/2/18

if u do not know it is okey dear, but you can find it out ffrom google who are vellalla, where there is close relation with royal families or not...go to google and wiki pedia

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Oct 2, 2023, 12:49:39 AM10/2/23

Pillai surname is found among Multiple castes in Kerala. In Kerala, Pillai is a title of High ranking Nairs of Samantha Nair and Illam Nair subcastes. Also found among Swaroopam Nairs and Kiriyam Nairs(they are very less in number in travancore). Malayali Pillais rank lies between Nairs(vratya-kshatriyas) and Nambuthiri Brahmins. Kerala Nair Pillais are Landlords and Warriors. Kaimal, Nambair, Kartha,Thampi,Kurup,etc are similar to Pillais. And part of General/Forward caste.

Pillai surname also found among Vellala pilla, vellala nair, Chetti, saliya, marar, etc caste groups. These groups involved in different professions. These groups are mainly landlords and agriculturists in Tamil Nadu.

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