As a result of the new U.S. spy satellite...
Dr. Jai Maharaj
As a result of the new U.S. spy satellite,
folks in the south Asian subcontinent may
wish to encrypt their communications --
even (or, especially) at at the personal level.
Here is some useful information from
the newsgroups alt.security.pgp, alt.privacy,
alt.security, and alt.2600
Where to get PGP FAQ
Forwarded post from m...@csn.net (Michael Johnson)
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WHERE TO GET THE PRETTY GOOD PRIVACY PROGRAM (PGP) FAQ
Revised 3 December 1997
Disclaimer: some of this information may be outdated or otherwise inaccurate.
Use it at your own risk.
The master copy of this FAQ is at http://www.cryptography.org/getpgp.htm (and
at http://www.cryptography.org/getpgp.txt for the text-only version).
The official (much more complete) PGP FAQ is available at:
http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/
WHAT IS THE LATEST VERSION OF PGP, AND WHERE IS IT?
PGPmail commercial version: 5.5
http://www.pgp.com
PGP freeware, USA-legal: 2.6.2, 5.0, or 5.5 (depending on your platform)
http://www.eudora.com
http://www.pgp.com/products/freeware.cgi
http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp.html
PGP: http://web.mit.edu/network/pgp-form.html
PGPfone: http://web.mit.edu/network/pgpfone
http://www.cryptography.org
PGP international freeware: 2.6.3, 2.6.3i, 5.0, or 5.5
http://www.pgpi.com
WHERE CAN I GET THE COMMERCIAL PGP?
http://www.pgp.com
Pretty Good Privacy, Inc. (Headquarters)
2121 S. El Camino Real
Suite 902
San Mateo, CA 94403
Main: (415) 572-0430
Fax: (415) 572-1932
WHERE CAN I FTP PGP IN NORTH AMERICA?
If you are in the USA or Canada, try one of these URLs:
ftp://net-dist.mit.edu/pub/PGP/README
ftp://miyako.dorm.duke.edu/pub/GETTING_ACCESS
ftp://ftp.csua.berkeley.edu/pub/cypherpunks/pgp/
ftp://ftp.gibbon.com/pub/pgp/README.PGP
ftp://ftp.mindlink.net/pub/crypto/software/README
WHERE IS PGP ON COMPUSERVE?
GO NCSAFORUM. Follow the instructions there to gain access to Library 12:
Export Controlled.
WHAT BULLETIN BOARD SYSTEMS CARRY PGP?
MANY BBS carry PGP. The following carry recent versions of PGP and
allow free downloads of PGP.
US
303-772-1062 Colorado Catacombs BBS, Longmont CO
8 data bits, 1 stop, no parity, up to 28,800 bps.
Use ANSI terminal emulation.
For free access: log in with your own name, answer the questions.
314-896-9309 The KATN BBS
317-887-9568 Computer Virus Research Center (CVRC) BBS, Indianapolis, IN
Login First Name: PGP Last Name: USER Password: PGP
501-791-0124, 501-791-0125 The Ferret BBS, North Little Rock, AR
Login name: PGP USER Password: PGP
506-457-0483 Data Intelligence Group Corporation BBS
508-668-4441 Emerald City, Walpole, MA
601-582-5748 CyberGold BBS
612-690-5556, !CyBERteCH SeCURitY BBS! Minneapolis MN
914-667-4567 Exec-Net, New York, NY
915-587-7888, Self-Governor Information Resource, El Paso, Texas
909-681-6221 ATTENTION to Details (ATD BBS)
All lines v.32bis/14.4KBPS minimum
CH
+41-1-322-7129 MoonLight BBS, Zurich 28800 bps, V34 ZYXEL ELITE 2864
DE
+49-781-9483621 MAUS BBS, Offenburg - angeschlossen an das MausNet
+49-521-68000 BIONIC-BBS Login: PGP
NL
+31-26-3890037 Viber BBS, NOTB HOST Gelderland
8 data bits, 1 stop, no parity, up to 28,800 bps. (ISDN soon)
Use ANSI terminal emulation.
For free access: log in with your own name, answer the questions.
Latest version and other tools: FILE AREA: [NOTB] - PGP
+31-71-5768914 Insanity Systems III
Just logon and answer some questions about where you live and get
PGP as well as a lot of PGP-tools for free.
The system also has an offline and online PGP-server
available for your public keys.
WHERE CAN I FTP PGP OUTSIDE OF NORTH AMERICA?
BR
ftp://ftp.ibilce.unesp.br/pgp
The last available version is PGP 2.6ui
DE
ftp://ftp.cert.dfn.de/pub/pgp/
IT
ftp://idea.sec.dsi.unimi.it/pub/security/crypt/PGP
FI
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/crypt/pgp/
NL
ftp://ftp.nl.net/pub/crypto/pgp
ftp://ftp.nic.surfnet.nl/surfnet/net-security/encryption/pgp
NO
ftp://menja.ifi.uio.no/pub/pgp/
NZ
SE
TW
ftp://nctuccca.edu.tw/PC/wuarchive/pgp/
GB
ftp://ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/pgp
HOW CAN I GET PGP BY EMAIL?
If you have access to email, but not to ftp, send a message saying
"help" to ftp...@decwrl.dec.com or mail...@nic.funet.fi
WHERE CAN I GET MORE PGP INFORMATION?
http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/pgp-faq/
http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/
http://www.sni.net/~mpj
http://www.mit.edu:8001/people/warlord/pgp-faq.html
ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-pgp-pgpformat-01.txt
http://www-mitpress.mit.edu/mitp/recent-books/comp/pgp-source.html
http://www.sni.net/~mpj/getpgp.htm
http://web.cnam.fr/Network/Crypto/ (c'est en francais)
http://web.cnam.fr/Network/Crypto/survey.html (en anglais)
http://inet.uni-c.dk/~pethern/privacy.html
http://www.stack.nl/~goofy/PGP
The PGP-Users Mailing List home page at
http://pgp.rivertown.net
contains many, many PGP related resources, including resources on privacy,
anonymous remailers, and other related fields.
The PGP-Users list archives are also linked to the page as is an
HTML version of the PGP-FAQ (may not be the most recent), the PGP
documentation,
resources for MacPGP, links to another mailing list dedicated to PGPfone
(which includes one of its authors, Will Price) and the one of a kind,
PGPfone Registry, where PGPfone users who would like to test PGPfone with
each other can leave messages in a browsable data base to let others find
them to connect with each other.
CAN I GET PGP DOCUMENTATION IN MY OWN LANGUAGE?
Yes. You can get the official PGP documentation in several languages at
http://www.pgpi.com
German documentation is at http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1802/
Thanks to Florian Helmberg <helm...@via.at> for making it
available.
WHAT COMPATIBILITY ISSUES EXIST BETWEEN PGP 5.x AND EARLIER VERSIONS
PGP 5.0 introduces some new algorithms for both public key and conventional
encryption. These changes are good from both technical (security &
efficiency) and political (patent) standpoints. With the death of the
Diffie-Hellman key exchange patent, the freeware PGP new algorithms are 100%
free of patent problems, and free of legalese such as come with the RSAREF
toolkit. The Diffie-Hellman key exchange key size limit is also larger than
the old RSA limit, so PGP encryption is actually more secure, now. The new
SHA1 hash function is better than MD5, so signatures are more secure, now,
too. The conventional encryption used is all sound, and definitely not the
weak link in the chain. This much is good news.
The bad news, of course, is that there will be some interoperability
problems, since no earlier versions of PGP can handle these algorithms. How
this affects you depends on the PGP version that you have.
There are really 3 versions of PGP called PGP 5.0. The freeware
edition can only generate and use the new (faster, more secure,
patent-problem-free) algorithms. There is a really cheap (cheaper than one
S/MIME key certificate) upgrade to PGP 5.0 for Eudora users that will let you
use the old RSA keys as well. Then, of course, the full commercial version of
PGP 5.0 can handle both old and new algorithms and message formats equally
well. If you want to handle both, you need to either keep both an old and new
freeware PGP around, upgrade to one of the versions of PGP 5.0 that can
handle the old keys.
WHAT ARE SOME GOOD PGP BOOKS?
Protect Your Privacy: A Guide for PGP Users
by William Stallings
Prentice Hall PTR
ISBN 0-13-185596-4
US $19.95
PGP: Pretty Good Privacy
by Simson Garfinkel
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
ISBN 1-56592-098-8
US $24.95
E-Mail_Security,
How To Keep Your Electronic Messages Private (covers PGP & PEM)
by Bruce Schneier
365 pages
1995
pub: John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
ISBN 0-471-05318-X
$24.95 US
The Computer Privacy Handbook: A Practical Guide to E-Mail Encryption, Data
Protection, and PGP PRivacy Software
by André Bacard
Peachpit Press
ISBN 1-56609-171-3
US $24.95
800-283-9444 or 510-548-4393
THE OFFICIAL PGP USER'S GUIDE
by Philip R. Zimmerman
MIT Press
April 1995 - 216 pp. - paper - US $14.95 - ISBN 0-262-74017-6 ZIMPP
Standard PGP documentation neatly typeset and bound.
PGP SOURCE CODE AND INTERNALS
by Philip R. Zimmerman
April 1995 - 804 pp. -
US $55.00 - 0-262-24039-4 ZIMPH
How to Use PGP, 61 pages, (Pub #121) from the Superior Broadcasting
Company, Box 1533-N, Oil City, PA 16301, phone: (814) 678-8801 (about US
$10-$13).
IS PGP LEGAL?
Pretty Good Privacy is legal if you follow these rules:
Don't export PGP from the USA except to Canada, or from Canada except to the
USA, without a license (except that printed books containing source code are
OK to export).
If you are in the USA, use either the commercial PGP (licensed for commercial
use) or MIT PGP using RSAREF (limited to personal, noncommercial use), or use
one of the versions of PGP that doesn't support RSA encryption and digital
signatures and use the Diffie-Hellman and DSA algorithms (that aren't
patented).
Outside of the USA, where RSA is not patented, you may prefer to use a
version of PGP (2.6.3i) that doesn't use RSAREF to avoid the restrictions of
that license.
If you are in a country where the IDEA cipher patent holds in
software (including the USA and some countries in Europe), make
sure you are licensed to use the IDEA cipher commercially before using
PGP commercially. (No separate license is required to use the freeware
PGP for personal, noncommercial use). For direct IDEA licensing, contact
Ascom Systec:
Erhard Widmer, Ascom Systec AG, Dep't. CMVV Phone +41 64 56 59 83
Peter Hartmann, Ascom Systec AG, Dep't. CMN Phone +41 64 56 59 45
Fax: +41 64 56 59 90
e-mail: ID...@ascom.ch
Mail address: Gewerbepark, CH-5506 Maegenwil (Switzerland)
PGP, Inc., has an exclusive marketing agreement for commercial
distribution of Philip Zimmermann's copyrighted code. (Selling
shareware/freeware disks or connect time is OK). This restriction does
not apply to PGP 3.0, since it is a complete rewrite by Colin Plumb.
If you modify PGP (other than porting it to another platform, fixing a bug,
or adapting it to another compiler), don't call it PGP (TM) or Pretty Good
Privacy (TM) without Philip Zimmermann's permission.
WHAT IS PHILIP ZIMMERMANN'S LEGAL STATUS?
Philip Zimmermann was under investigation for alleged violation of export
regulations, with a grand jury hearing evidence for about 28 months, ending
11 January 1996. The Federal Government chose not to comment on why it
decided to not prosecute, nor is it likely to. The Commerce Secretary stated
that he would seek relaxed export controls for cryptographic products, since
studies show that U. S. industry is being harmed by current regulations.
Philip endured some serious threats to his livelihood and freedom, as well as
some very real legal expenses, for the sake of your right to electronic
privacy.
The battle is won, but the war is not over. The regulations that
caused him so much grief and which continue to dampen cryptographic
development, harm U. S. industry, and do violence to the U. S. National
Security by eroding the First Ammendment of the U. S. Constitution and
encouraging migration of cryptographic industry outside of the U. S. A. are
still on the books.
If you are a U. S. Citizen, please write to your U. S. Senators,
Congressional Representative, President, and Vice President pleading for a
more sane and fair cryptographic policy. Several legislative efforts will,
if successful, relax the export controls of cryptographic software from the
U.S.
See:
http://www.epic.org
http://www.crypto.com
CAN I USE ENCRYPTION LEGALY?
Within the U.S. there is no legal obstacle for use of strong encryption.
In an ideal world everyone would have the right to use encryption.
Unfortunately, your right to use encryption may be restricted or does not
exist.
In France, the government prohibits the use of encryption without prior
permission, that you won't get if you are a private citizen.
Germany is said to consider banning the use and distribution of strong
cryptographic software in the name of "national security."
United Kingdom may adopt a key escrow system.
For a recent update on the legal situation see The Crypto Law Survey
http://cwis.kub.nl/~frw/people/koops/lawsurvy.htm
HOW DO I SELECT A GOOD SECURE PASSPHRASE?
See:
http://world.std.com/~reinhold/diceware.page.html
http://colossus.net/wepinsto/wsft_f/wspp_f/passfraz.html
WHERE CAN I GET WINDOWS & DOS SHELLS FOR PGP?
http://www.dayton.net/~cwgeib
ftp://menja.ifi.uio.no/pub/pgp/pc/msdos/apgp22b3.zip
http://alpha.netaccess.on.ca/~spowell/crypto/pwf31.zip
ftp://ftp.netcom.com/pub/dc/dcosenza/pgpw40.zip
ftp://ftp.firstnet.net/pub/windows/winpgp/pgpw40.zip
http://www.eskimo.com/~joelm(Private Idaho)
ftp://ftp.eskimo.com/~joelm
http://www.xs4all.nl/~paulwag/security.htm
http://www.LCS.com/winpgp.html
http://netaccess.on.ca/~rbarclay/index.html
http://netaccess.on.ca/~rbarclay/pgp.html
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/crypt/gcppgp10.zip
ftp://ftp.leo.org/pub/comp/os/os2/crypt/pmpgp.zip
http://www.aegisrc.com
http://www.ncinter.net/~rewilson/PGPClick/
For the Pegasus Mail System:
http://www.incrypt.com/imail01.html Invincible Mail for Pegasus
For Eudora and Netscape Mail:
http://www.eudora.com
http://www.pgp.com/products/PGPmail.cgi
WHAT OTHER FILE ENCRYPTION (DOS, MAC) TOOLS ARE THERE?
PGP can do conventional encryption only of a file (-c) option, but
you might want to investigate some of the other alternatives if you do
this a lot.
Alternatives include Quicrypt and Atbash2 for DOS, DLOCK for
DOS & UNIX, Curve Encrypt (for the Mac), HPACK (many platforms), and a
few others.
Quicrypt is interesting in that it comes in two flavors: shareware
exportable and registered secure. Atbash2 is interesting in that it generates
ciphertext that can be read over the telephone or sent by Morse code. DLOCK
is a no-frills strong encryption program with complete source code. Curve
Encrypt has certain user-friendliness advantages. HPACK is an archiver (like
ZIP or ARC), but with strong encryption. A couple of starting points for your
search are:
ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/qcrypt11.zip
http://www.cryptography.org
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/pub/virus/crypt/file/
ftp://idea.sec.dsi.unimi.it/pub/crypt/code/
HOW DO I SECURELY DELETE FILES (DOS)?
If you have the Norton Utilities, Norton WipeInfo is pretty good. I
use DELETE.EXE in del110.zip, which is really good at deleting existing
files, but doesn't wipe "unused" space.
US
ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/public/del121.zip
NL
ftp://basement.replay.com/pub/replay/pub/security/del120.zip
UK
ftp://ftp.demon.co.uk/pub/ibmpc/security/realdeal.zip
WHERE DO I GET PGPfone(tm)?
PGPfone is for private phone calls using a modem or the Internet.
http://web.mit.edu/network/pgpfone
ftp://basement.replay.com/pub/replay/pub/voice/
http://menja.ifi.uio.no/pub/pgp/
WHERE DO I GET NAUTILUS?
Bill Dorsey, Pat Mullarky, and Paul Rubin have come out with a
program called Nautilus that enables you to engage in secure voice
conversations between people with multimedia PCs and modems capable of
at least 7200 bps (but 14.4 kbps is better). See:
ftp://sable.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/misc
ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/GETTING_ACCESS
ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/crypt/other/nautilus-phone-0.9.2-source.tar.gz
http://www.cryptography.org
ftp://miyako.dorm.duke.edu/pub/GETTING_ACCESS
ftp://basement.replay.com/pub/replay/pub/voice/
The official Nautilus home page is at:
http://www.lila.com/nautilus/
HOW DO I ENCRYPT MY DISK ON-THE-FLY?
Secure File System (SFS) is a DOS device driver that encrypts an entire
partition on the fly using SHA in feedback mode.
Secure Drive also encrypts an entire DOS partition, using IDEA, which is
patented.
Secure Device is a DOS device driver that encrypts a virtual, file-hosted
volume with IDEA.
Cryptographic File System (CFS) is a Unix device driver that uses DES.
CryptDisk is a ShareWare package for Macintosh that uses strong IDEA
encryption like PGP.
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut01/sfs.html
ftp://ftp.informatik.uni-hamburg.de/pub/virus/crypt/disk/
ftp://ftp.nic.surfnet.nl/surfnet/net-security/encryption/disk/
ftp://sable.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto/misc/
ftp://menja.ifi.uio.no/pub/pgp/mac/
ftp://basement.replay.com/pub/replay/pub/disk/
http://www.cryptography.org
ftp://miyako.dorm.duke.edu/mpj/crypto/disk/
WHERE IS PGP'S COMPETITION?
S/MIME is gaining a foothold on the secure email market, but my experience
with it has been rather negative. Current implementations of S/MIME (1) don't
allow secure key lengths to be used except in "U. S. Only" versions, (2)
require payment of an annual fee to a key certification authority who
verifies only that you got email to your key certificate's address at least
once, (3) have much more limited key management facilities than PGP, and (4)
the first time I tried to make S/MIME work, it flat out failed to perform as
advertised. On the positive side, S/MIME is integrated into email packages
almost as well as PGP is integrated into Eudora, and once the kinks are taken
out, the secure version of S/MIME (1024-bit RSA keys and 128-bit RC-2 keys)
will be good enough for most people. The "export" edition (512-bit RSA keys
and 40-bit RC-2 keys) is a very bad idea, because it gives a false sense of
security.
RIPEM is the third most popular freeware email encryption package. I like
PGP better for lots of reasons, but if for some reason you want to check or
generate a PEM signature, RIPEM is available at ripem.msu.edu. There is also
an exportable RIPEM/SIG.
U.S. and Canada: ftp://ripem.msu.edu/pub/GETTING_ACCESS
International: ftp://idea.sec.dsi.unimi.it/pub/crypt/code/
HOW DO I PUBLISH MY PGP PUBLIC KEY?
The latest PGP version will interact with key servers automatically if you
are connected to the Internet and if you configure them to. For manual key
publication, send mail to one of these addresses with the single word "help"
in the subject line to find out how to use them. These servers synchronize
keys with each other. There are other key servers, too.
pgp-pub...@keys.pgp.net
pgp-pub...@keys.de.pgp.net
pgp-pub...@keys.no.pgp.net
pgp-pub...@keys.uk.pgp.net
pgp-pub...@keys.us.pgp.net
HOW DO I RETRIEVE A PGP PUBLIC KEY USING A WWW BROWSER?
http://www.pgp.net/pgpnet/www-key.html
CAN I SUBMIT MY PUBLIC KEY TO A "CLEAN" CERTIFIED DATABASE?
You can have your key officially certified and published in a "clean" key
database that is much less susceptible to denial-of-service attacks than the
other key servers. Send mail to info...@Four11.com for information, or look
at http://www.Four11.com/
Of course, you can always send your public key directly to the parties you
wish to correspond with.
CAN I COPY AND REDISTRIBUTE THIS FAQ?
Yes. Please only do so in appropriate forums, and provide pointers to the
home location of this FAQ.
WHO MAINTAINS THIS FAQ?
Michael Paul Johnson <m...@ebible.org> maintains this FAQ. My PGP public key
is at ftp://ftp.csn.net/mpj/mpjkey.asc (includes both RSA and DH keys).
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Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
Read the latest world news at:
http://www.flex.com/~jai
Om Shanti
Prem Thomas
Someone with a fake "doctorate" in astrology claiming to be "Jai Maharaj" wrote:
As a result of the new U.S. spy satellite,
folks in the south Asian subcontinent may
wish to encrypt their communications --
even (or, especially) at at the personal level.
Why, do you think all South Asians are spies, ruffians and thieves like you? If you are not doing anything illegal, you don't need to worry about governmental interception. Obviously, Jay has much to worry about.
http://www.trailerpark.com/elcamino/chief/lie.wav (this is very funny but, be warned: it's a 110k download)
Blue Bayou Monte Cristo Sandwich
A tasty southern specialty that makes an everyday sandwich in to an
occasion. The light egg batter appeals to just about everyone
and gives the
dish a delightfully different accent.
BATTER
1 1/2 Cups - All-purpose flour, sifted
1/4 Teaspoon - Salt
1 Tablespoon - Baking powder
1 1/3 cups - Water
1 - Egg
Sift flour, salt and baking powder together. Add water to beaten
egg, then
add to flour mixture and mix well. Set aside.
SANDWICH
1 Ounce - Sliced white meat of turkey
1 Ounce - Sliced Swiss cheese
1 Ounce - Sliced ham
2 Slices - Egg Bread
Make a sandwich using turkey first, then Swiss cheese, and then ham.
Cut
sandwich into quarters using toothpicks to hold sandwich together.
Dip
sandwich in egg batter and fry in 360 degrees canola oil until golden
brown. Remove toothpicks and sprinkle with powdered sugar.
Serve with
raspberry jelly.
Recipe courtesy of David I. Tomita <da...@pharm.medsch.ucla.edu>.
Prem
Dr. Jai Maharaj
In article <35790285...@ged.net> ,
[ Christian scum Prem Thomas lied again.]
Here is the truth about criminal Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net> :
Post by Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net> , 8 Lakeland Avenue
Congers, NY 10920-1708, USA in soc.culture.indian :
>
> From: Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net>
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:30:01 UTC
> Message-ID: <3494CE69...@ged.net>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyack-157.qed.net
>
> Zaigham A. Kazmi wrote:
>> At last, I think one statement can answer most of your questions:
>> this campaign did not gain momentum and got public involved
>> throughout the nation until Advani took out that (in)famous rathyatra
>> which eventually claimed ......
>
> Advani should be tried as a mass-murderer.
>
> Prem
>
> mailto:pre...@qed.net
>
End of Post by Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net>
In other posts, Prem Thomas has claimed to be a Christian.
Prem Thomas himself publishes threats of mass-murder:
Commonly-available public records list
the address of the suspect as:
Prem Thomas
8 Lakeland Avenue
Congers, NY 10920-1708 USA
Fax 914-268-5361
Telephone 914-268-8634
Prem Thomas himself advertised his Fax number:
[ Subject: WTB: Coking Coal
[ From: Prem Thomas <pre...@qed.net>
[ Date: 1996/10/07
[ Message-Id: <DywtC...@news2.new-york.net>
[ X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-55.qed.net
[ X-Trace: 844698250/21103
[ Newsgroups: alt.business.import-export
[ X-Mailer: Mozilla 1.22KIT (Windows; U; 16bit)
[
[ I have an urgent requirement for 2MMT of high-grade
[ coking coal in the very short term(3 months). Destination
[ is Asian port. Please e-mail response or fax to
[ (914)268-5361.
Prem Thomas usually uses the following Internet Service
provider to launch attacks against groups of people he hates:
Internet Communications Company (QED2-DOM)
12 Promenade
New City, NY 10956
US
Domain Name: QED.NET
Administrative Contact:
Feinberg, Nick (NF39) ni...@QED.NET
914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669
Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
Feinberg, Nick (NF106) ni...@QED.NET
914-353-9290
Billing Contact:
Feinberg, Nick (NF39) ni...@QED.NET
914-623-8550 (FAX) 914-623-8669
Record last updated on 14-Oct-96.
Record created on 18-Oct-95.
Database last updated on 1-Jan-98 05:14:40 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NS1.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.2.51
NS2.NEW-YORK.NET 165.254.101.51
NS3.NEW-YORK.NET 206.139.202.51
Prem Thomas Publishes Death Threat Against Astrologers
=== Exhibit <EIHBx...@nonexistent.com> ===========================
[
[ Path: . . . cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!
[ news.new-york.net!nonexistent.com!not-for-mail
[ From: Prem Thomas <pre...@qed.net>
[ Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,
[ soc.culture.jewish,soc.culture.israel,alt.religion.islam,
[ alt.religion.hindu,alt.culture.hawaii,alt.crime,
[ soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.activism
[ Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:58:13 UTC
[ Message-ID: <EIHBx...@nonexistent.com>
[
[ [...] Your friggin' astrology is no more relevant to
[ the 20th and 21st centuries than voodoo. . . .
[ The salvation of the people of the sub-continent
[ lies in the extermination of the blood-sucking vampires
[ of your kind. . . . [...]
[
[ Prem
[
=== End of Exhibit <EIHBx...@nonexistent.com> ====================
Previous Posts
[ Subject: An Enemy of Astrologers - Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net>
[ From: address....@web.site (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 06:41:10 UTC
[ Message-ID: <astrology-...@news.mantra.com>
Prem Thomas claims to be a Christian.
He is evidently dedicated to eliminating astrologers from the world.
Yes, his posts in newsgroups contain the line:
"Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet"
Here is the proof (newsgroup posts can be found at www.dejanews.com ) :
Exhibit
> From: Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net>
> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 04:33:41 UTC
> Organization: Council For The Elimination of Jyotishis From The Planet
> Message-ID: <3494B325...@ged.net>
> NNTP-Posting-Host: nyack-157.qed.net
End of Exhibit
There are numerous exhibits such as the one above.
Jai Maharaj
Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
http://www.flex.com/~jai
http://members.aol.com/Jyotishi
Om Shanti
Previous post about Prem Thomas:
[ Subject: NEWCOMERS PLEASE READ: Anti-Astrology People List
[ From: j...@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
[ Date: September 24, 1997
[ Message-ID: <8751274...@dejanews.com>
[
[ (Please feel free to add to this
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[
[ List of People Who Post Anti-Astrology Messages
[
[ Updated September 24, 1997 at 1853 hours UTC
[
[ Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net>
[ Excerpts from his posts:
[
[ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS A "THIEVING PROFESSION"
[ >
[ > From: Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net>
[ > Subject: Re: GUJRAL-SHARIF MEET
[ > Date: 1997/09/23
[ > Message-ID: <EGyE0...@nonexistent.com>
[ > References: <8749420...@dejanews.com>
[ > <fik9g95j0a.fsf@swap31-236> <8749870...@dejanews.com>
[ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-63.qed.net
[ > X-Complaints-To: Email ab...@news2.new-york.net if this posting
[ > is inappropriate
[ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 875004773 11126 (None) [204.141.125.63]
[ >
[ > I received the news that astrologers were unable to agree on an
[ > auspicious time (Muhoort) to recommend for the meeting between
[ > the two. Looking at some of the data, I also do not recommend
[ > any day this week (except Thursday, September 25 for this purpose).
[
[ > It's truly amazing that Indians at all economic levels continue to
[ > "consult" this thieving profession despite being the living
[ > embodiment
[ > of it's irrelevance and ineffectuality.
[ >
[ > Prem
[ >
[ > mailto:pre...@qed.net
[
[ PREM THOMAS SAYS ASTROLOGY IS "HUMBUG">
[ >
[ > From: Prem Thomas <pre...@ged.net>
[ > Subject: Re: Planetary Pundit - Dr. K. Navaratnam
[ > Date: 1997/08/23
[ > Message-ID: <EFCzB...@nonexistent.com>
[ > References: <astrology-...@news.mantra.com>
[ > <EF8BI...@novice.uwaterloo.ca>
[ > <astrology-...@news.mantra.com>
[ > X-Nntp-Posting-Host: nyack-51.qed.net
[ > X-Complaints-To: Email ab...@news2.new-york.net if
[ > this posting is inappropriate
[ > X-Trace: news2.new-york.net 872326334 20461 (None) [204.141.125.51]
[ >
[ > [...] Regardless of what Jai Maharaj says, the fact remains
[ > that astrology is humbug. [...]
[
[ Sumbitted by:
[ Jai Maharaj
[ Jyotishi, Vedic Astrologer
[ http://www.flex.com/~jai
[ Om Shanti