punyakotiya kathe and our heritage
Venkatesh Jagadeeshwara
In article <31ED1F...@idicl1.idi.oclc.org>, Mahesh Rao
<hma...@idicl1.idi.oclc.org> writes:
|> U.B. Pavanaja wrote:
|>
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|> divangata shakarnAg nantara apaghAtadalli nAvu kaLedukonDa eraDanE
|> kalAvida mAnu.
|> entha duRdaiva !
|>
Actually it is third,we lost upcoming young actor Sunil,about 2 years
back.
Infact ,actress malashree was seriously injured in that accident.
U.B. Pavanaja
bAndhavare,
I got the following mail in response to my posting of the
song dharaNi manDala madhyadoLage. I thought I will not be
doing any harm by posting it here-
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From: R...@ameriparts.com[SMTP:Ram.P...@apk.net]
Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 1996 8:35 PM
To: pava...@po.iams.sinica.edu.tw
Subject: punyakotiya kathe
Hi,
I was reading the lyrics of that beautiful song and I wanted to thank
you for bringing back those emotions which this song can so beautifully
do. There is not a single mother from India who will not cry when she
listens to this song and I am unashamedly one of those who will cry!
I have heard this song from my childhood but always it brings the
same emotional response.
My reply to above-
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namaskAra,
I fully agree with you. This one song fascinated me like anything.
Many parents in alien land ask the question -how to teach our
heritage/culture to the children growing up in alien culture? The
answer is -tell this type of stories to them, preferably in your
mother tongue. That's what I do. Now my son know the story
of puNyakOTi, complete mahAbhArata, kR^shNa, all the 10
avatAras of vishNU, nachikEta, panchatantra, etc. I started
with panchatantra and as he grew (he is 6 now) I started telling
other stories. This has double benefits -he will know the culrure/
heritage and he will know your language. He even makes
billu, bANa, arjuna's ratha with kR^shNa in it, using the Lego
sets !
matte sigONa,
Pavanaja
Mahesh Rao
U.B. Pavanaja wrote:
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While on the subject of dharaNi manDala madhyadoLage, yesterday when I
was
speaking with my parents learned the sad news that the movie actor mAnu
passed
away in an accident. Also movie actor ramEsh was injured in the same
accident.
divangata shakarnAg nantara apaghAtadalli nAvu kaLedukonDa eraDanE
kalAvida mAnu.
entha duRdaiva !
mAnu, nAsiruddin shAw were in the movie tabbaliyu nInAde magane. mAnu
has acted in
a number of other award winning movies too like sURya etc. (eDakallu
guDDada mEle ?)
You can also recall ramEsh's excellent playboy performances in sundara
swapnagaLu,
panchama vEda etc and his continuing of shankarnAg's tele-series
parichaya.
sigONa
mahesh
PS: Did not find any info on this on DeccanHerald online (17 july). I
sincerely
hope what I heard was a false rumor.
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Mahesh Rao
Mahesh Rao wrote:
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MAANU DIES IN ROAD ACCIDENT
HASSAN - Noted Kannada film actor G Manappa, popularly known
as Maanu, and Rashtriya Navanirmana Vedike leader Ramesh
Bandagadde died in a car accident at Arsikere in the early
hours of today.
Looks like this ramEsh is not the one I was talking about earlier. -m
Mahesh Rao
U.B. Pavanaja wrote:
> > (eDakallu guDDada mEle ?)
> I think the actor in eDakallu guDDada mEle was Chandrashekhar.
I knew chandrashEkhar has acted in eDakallu guDDada mEle, but I also
thought mAnu was there too. mAnu is also in parasangada genDetimma.
> While on the topic, nAsiruddin shAw acted very well in tabbaliyu nInAde magane.
> sundarakR^shNa arasu's voice was used for nAsiruddin shAw in that movie.
> sundarakR^shNa arasu himself is a great actor. Remember his performance
> in ondAnondu kAladalli, directed by girIsh kArnAD? That movie launched both
> arasu and shankarnAg.
After the talk about puNyakOTi on SCIK, I got hold of tabbaliyu nInAde
magane and watched it. Enjoyed much again. Answers to your quiz :
Singers : PB shrInivAs, BK sumitra, vidyArANi
Story : SL bhairappa
Music : bhAskar chandAravarkar Supervision : vaidyanAthan
Director : BV kArant, girIsh kArnAD Assistants : nAgAbharaNa,
kAnakAnahaLLi gOpi, rAmagOpAl bajAj
And who can forget that kanchina kanTha of sundara kRishNa aras ?
> > You can also recall ramEsh's excellent playboy performances in sundara swapnagaLu,
> > panchama vEda etc and his continuing of shankarnAg's tele-series parichaya.
>
> I have not seen many movies of ramEsh. I remember his performance in nODi
> swAmi nAvirOde hIge and shankhanAda (?). He is a talented actor.
Which ramEsh is this (ramEsh bhaT ?) since the ramEsh I was talking
about, to the best of my knowledge, has not acted in either of thse
movies. This ramEsh is a mech.eng. from UVCE (our college !)
> 'nODi swAmi nAvirOde hIge' reminds me one incidence. It is a practice among rikshaw
> drivers to paint the popular movie's name on the rikshaw. There was a rikshaw
> carrying the name 'nODi swAmi nAvirOde hIge'. That rikshaw got involved in an accident
> and was standing upside down on the roadside in Mangalore. Its photo in that
> fashion had appeared in udayavANi daily.
nODi swAmi nAvirOdu hIge was directed by shankar nAg...excellent. One
clip that always catches me is : in the beginning of the movie (and just
before the title song), ma. manjunAth (choTTe) who will be wiping a
beautiful car in a garage says to shankar nAg "gADi oresi Aytu aNNa.
tagonDu hOgu" upon which, shankar nAg pulls up a luna (_the_ moped !),
from alongside, which we would not have seen so for, and drives it !
sigONa
mahesh
U.B. Pavanaja
Mahesh Rao wrote:
> mAnu, nAsiruddin shAw were in the movie tabbaliyu nInAde magane. mAnu
> has acted in
> a number of other award winning movies too like sURya etc.
mAnu was originally a stage artist moved on to the celluloid. I have seen
his brilliance performance in the drama 'dangeya hindina dinagaLu' which
is actually kannaDa version of 'Shatranj ke Khiladi'.
> (eDakallu guDDada mEle ?)
I think the actor in eDakallu guDDada mEle was Chandrashekhar.
While on the topic, nAsiruddin shAw acted very well in tabbaliyu nInAde magane.
sundarakR^shNa arasu's voice was used for nAsiruddin shAw in that movie.
sundarakR^shNa arasu himself is a great actor. Remember his performance
in ondAnondu kAladalli, directed by girIsh kArnAD? That movie launched both
arasu and shankarnAg.
> You can also recall ramEsh's excellent playboy performances in sundara
> swapnagaLu,
> panchama vEda etc and his continuing of shankarnAg's tele-series
> parichaya.
I have not seen many movies of ramEsh. I remember his performance in nODi
swAmi nAvirOde hIge and shankhanAda (?). He is a talented actor.
'nODi swAmi nAvirOde hIge' reminds me one incidence. It is a practice among rikshaw
drivers to paint the popular movie's name on the rikshaw. There was a rikshaw
carrying the name 'nODi swAmi nAvirOde hIge'. That rikshaw got involved in an accident
and was standing upside down on the roadside in Mangalore. Its photo in that
fashion had appeared in udayavANi daily.
matte sigONa,
-Pavanaja
Padmanabha Holla
Mahesh Rao (hma...@idicl1.idi.oclc.org) wrote:
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: PS: Did not find any info on this on DeccanHerald online (17 july). I
: sincerely
: hope what I heard was a false rumor.
I have read this somewhere. But I am not sure whether it is deccan herald or not.
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Alec Vennos
It was unfortunate to loose Maanu in the accident, he had won
National award for best actor for movie "arivu". He was the HOD of
Kannada dept in BES college.
The other person who died in this accident was Ramesh Hundanagadde,
a politician(not the film actor).
--
Kumar
N Bhaskar
In article <31EC57...@po.iams.sinica.edu.tw>, pava...@po.iams.sinica.edu.tw
says...
>From: R...@ameriparts.com[SMTP:Ram.P...@apk.net]
>I was reading the lyrics of that beautiful song and I wanted to thank
>you for bringing back those emotions which this song can so beautifully
>do. There is not a single mother from India who will not cry when she
>listens to this song and I am unashamedly one of those who will cry!
>
>I have heard this song from my childhood but always it brings the
>same emotional response.
>
>Ma...@ameriparts.com
>
I studied in a missionary convent where we were fined 5 paise by
the class monitor every time we talked in kannada.The punyakoTi story
was probably part of our 6th standard syllabus and it affected me so
deeply that I remember that I would hunt for a deserted part of the house
and take my textbook there and read that story and weep and read it again
and weep, over and over again. My friends would catch me during some of
those weeping sessions and 'sissy' me no end. When this story was being
'taught' at school we ended up discussing it during the next classes as
well and I remember I accumulated a 'kannada' fine of what was then a
princely sum of 30 paise that month and my parents absolutely refused to
pay and were in fact quite outraged that such an obnoxious fine was being
charged at all. Enough parents must have 'bomboo'ed the principal because
the 'kannada' fine died a quiet death shortly thereafter.
Another song that, even to this day, invariably has me blinking away
tears while my wife and daughter watch with secret embarrassment is a
janapada song sung by P.Kalinga Rao's group (probably Mohana Kumari)
"yAkaLuve ele ranga bekAddu ninageeve". I'm sure there are not many
mothers who can get through this song without being churned up a bit
deep inside.
Naa Bhaskara
Kadagattur Srinidhi
Alec Vennos (kum...@bnr.ca) wrote:
: It was unfortunate to loose Maanu in the accident, he had won
: Kannada dept in BES college.
I remember his acting in arivu, Almost everytime I enter the library, i
find myself humming "Library yalli iliyidey :)". I remember seeing
maanu also act in some TV serials as well. His acting in Tabbaliyu ...
was excellent. His loss is really unfortunate.
: The other person who died in this accident was Ramesh Hundanagadde,
: a politician(not the film actor).
: --
: Kumar
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Real-Life Courtroom Quote:
Q: When he went, had you gone and had she, if she wanted to and were
able, for the time being excluding all the restraints on her not to
go, gone also, would he have brought you, meaning you and she, with
him to the station?
MR. BROOKS: Objection. That question should be taken out and
shot.
U.B. Pavanaja
Mahesh Rao wrote:
> And who can forget that kanchina kanTha of sundara kRishNa aras ?
No one. In fact much before he became famous as an actor, he was doing
only kanThadAna, mostly to 'imported' (into kannaDa) actors like Amarish Puri
(in kADu and subbi subbakka suvvalAli), nAsiruddin shaw (in tabbaliyu nInAde magane).
BTW, does any one know who did 'kanThadAna' to nAsiruddin shaw in giRish kAsaravalli's
'mane', to chAruhAsan in 'tabaran kathe' (by girIsh kAsaravalli) and 'kubi mattu
iyAla' (by dayAnanda suvarNa)?
> > I have not seen many movies of ramEsh. I remember his performance in nODi
> > swAmi nAvirOde hIge and shankhanAda (?). He is a talented actor.
>
> Which ramEsh is this (ramEsh bhaT ?) since the ramEsh I was talking
> about, to the best of my knowledge, has not acted in either of thse
> movies. This ramEsh is a mech.eng. from UVCE (our college !)
Oh yeah. I meant ramEsh bhaT. I haven't seen any movie by this ramEsh, the
UVCE guy. I left karnATaka in 1981 and was in Mumbai all these period and
hence whatever kannaDa movie I have seen after that is only in DD, except for
one or two movies that I see when I visit native place. There again, since I don't
like to see the B grade masAla movies, if good movies are not around when I visit
native place, then I end up in not seeing any kannaDa movie. That is not a big
loss as such.
> nODi swAmi nAvirOdu hIge was directed by shankar nAg...excellent.
I fully agree. In fact shankarnAg's other movies -accident, minchina OTa are all good.
When shankarnAg's cinema acting career was a bit low, he staged this drama and it
became a big hit. He later on made the movie which also became a hit and made
shankarnAg famous again. Just before his death, he was staging the drama
'nAga manDala' of giRish kArnAD, which was drawing big crowds.
-Pavanaja
U.B. Pavanaja
N Bhaskar wrote:
> Another song that, even to this day, invariably has me blinking away
> tears while my wife and daughter watch with secret embarrassment is a
> janapada song sung by P.Kalinga Rao's group (probably Mohana Kumari)
> "yAkaLuve ele ranga bekAddu ninageeve". I'm sure there are not many
> mothers who can get through this song without being churned up a bit
> deep inside.
Recently (~2 yrs back) G V Atri has brought two janapada song's cassettes -
'bArayya beLadingaLe' and 'beLadingaLu'.
This song is there, I think in the second part. There are other famous
songs in these -bArayya beLadingaLE, kunjarada bombe kELe, mUDal kuNigal kere
yEri, etc. Almost all of them were originally made popular by P Kalinga Rao
and his group -Mohan Kumari and Sohan Kumari. I like these cassettes very
much due to the fact -they are in the same tune as the original tunes of
Kalinaga Rao. Many composers when they compose music to an already established
song, they try to compose it in a different way /1/. Sometimes I (most of us who
have been tuned to the original famous tune) can not simply accept that.
But sometimes the new tune can be really good and the old one will be wiped
out from the memory. C Ashwath's (my favourite) tunes are best examples /2/.
matte sigONa,
Pavanaja
/1/ I have a cassette 'bhAvasurabhi'. There is a song 'navilUrinoLagella nIne
ati cheluve adake nammibbarige nAleye maduve' by KS Narasimhaswamy. I had heard
it so many times in public from Mysore Ananthaswamy and in Radio by HK Narayana.
This song in the cassette is by SP Balasubrahmanyam and not at all good.
/2/ 'rAyaru bandaru mAvana manege' by KS Narasimhaswamy (mysore mallige), kuvempu's
'jai bhArata jananiya tanujAte' (hachchEvu kannaDada dIpa), 'nannavaLu nannedeya
honnADanADuvaLu' & 'baLegAra chennayya' by KSN (iruvantige) are some examples.
Mahesh Rao
U.B. Pavanaja wrote:
> song, they try to compose it in a different way /1/. Sometimes I (most of us who
> have been tuned to the original famous tune) can not simply accept that.
> But sometimes the new tune can be really good and the old one will be wiped
> out from the memory. C Ashwath's (my favourite) tunes are best examples /2/.
> /1/ I have a cassette 'bhAvasurabhi'. There is a song 'navilUrinoLagella nIne
> ati cheluve adake nammibbarige nAleye maduve' by KS Narasimhaswamy. I had heard
> it so many times in public from Mysore Ananthaswamy and in Radio by HK Narayana.
> This song in the cassette is by SP Balasubrahmanyam and not at all good.
I have to agree. That cassette bhAvasurabhi, enthA mODi mADutte rAyre !
All songs sung by different singers written by different poets and are
all classics. I don't like at all some times when SPB does that
kuchEShTe in the songs (like in navilUrinoLagella...). The same song is
in another cassette (I think prEma taranga, not sure) sung by mysUru
anantaswAmy and is much better than SPB version.
>
> /2/ 'rAyaru bandaru mAvana manege' by KS Narasimhaswamy (mysore mallige), kuvempu's
> 'jai bhArata jananiya tanujAte' (hachchEvu kannaDada dIpa), 'nannavaLu nannedeya
> honnADanADuvaLu' & 'baLegAra chennayya' by KSN (iruvantige) are some examples.
On the other side, I used to like "jai bhArata jananiya tanujAte" (PBS
movie version, which movie ?). But after I listened to mysUru's version
(in hachchEvu...), I felt the eralier one was very sappe. mysUru's
version has a lot more "zing" (unmAda) in it and gives my goose-bumps
every time I hear it.
PS: On a lighter note, the song "anurAga tOTadalli..." in bhAvasurabhi
is by doDDarangE gowDa. Though definetely having a movie touch to it,
still very good to hear. Why don't people (including ...goWDa himself)
these days write good lyrics and compose good music when they do stuff
for movies, I never understand. ondondu hADU karNakaTHOra mArAyre !
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sb108579893269867976327300snlbxq'|dc
sigONa, mahesh
Mahesh Rao
Mahesh Rao wrote:
>
> kuchEShTe in the songs (like in navilUrinoLagella...). The same song is
> in another cassette (I think prEma taranga, not sure) sung by mysUru
> anantaswAmy and is much better than SPB version.
The song is in the cassette entitled "minchu" (not prEma taranga), music
composed and sung by musUru anantaswAmy himself.
> On the other side, I used to like "jai bhArata jananiya tanujAte" (PBS
> movie version, which movie ?). But after I listened to mysUru's version
> (in hachchEvu...), I felt the eralier one was very sappe. mysUru's
> version has a lot more "zing" (unmAda) in it and gives my goose-bumps
> every time I hear it.
Interestingly, there is "jaya bhArata jananiya tanujAte" in "minchu"
also, but in a different tune than the other two. But still I liked the
one in "hachchEvu kannaDada dIpa" the best.
U.B. Pavanaja
U.B. Pavanaja wrote:
> BTW, does any one know who did 'kanThadAna' to chAruhAsan in 'kubi mattu
> iyAla' (by dayAnanda suvarNa)?
Sorry for the goof-up. It was by sadAnanda suvarNa.
-Pavanaja
U.B. Pavanaja
Mahesh Rao wrote:
> I have to agree. That cassette bhAvasurabhi, enthA mODi mADutte rAyre !
> All songs sung by different singers written by different poets and are
> all classics.
Did you notice another point -that cassette does not mention who composed music
for the songs. Actually the songs are nothing but compilation from different
cassettes, by the same producer/distributor. But he could have the decency to
mention the music composers. There are many such cassettes in market -best
of shivamogga subbaNNa, best of sulOchana, etc.
There is one cassette -'gIta sampada' -brainchild of G V Athri. It also has different
songs by different poets, singers and music directors. In fact it was the first to
come in that fashion. The cassette is worth buying.
Another cassette of similar nature is 'hachchEvu kannaDada dIpa'.
> I don't like at all some times when SPB does that
> kuchEShTe in the songs (like in navilUrinoLagella...).
It is not the fault of SPB, but that of the music director. Remember how well SPB
sings under C Ashwath's direction in mysUru mallige (the movie)?
> The same song is
> in another cassette (I think prEma taranga, not sure) sung by mysUru
> anantaswAmy and is much better than SPB version.
I haven't heard that.
> On the other side, I used to like "jai bhArata jananiya tanujAte" (PBS
> movie version, which movie ?).
arishina kunkuma
> But after I listened to mysUru's version
> (in hachchEvu...), I felt the eralier one was very sappe. mysUru's
> version has a lot more "zing" (unmAda) in it and gives my goose-bumps
> every time I hear it.
In 'hachchEvu kannaDada dIpa', it is by C Ashwath, sung by himself, Mysore
Ananthaswamy and others.
In fact if I were to rate different bhAvagIte cassettes on a 0 to 10 scale,
I would rate hachchEvu.. as 11 :-)
> PS: On a lighter note, the song "anurAga tOTadalli..." in bhAvasurabhi
> is by doDDarangE gowDa. Though definetely having a movie touch to it,
> still very good to hear.
It sounds exactly like a movie song. If no one says it is from a bhAvagIte
cassette, you/I will take it as a movie song. May be the singer, S Janaki's
singing makes it like that.
> Why don't people (including ...goWDa himself)
> these days write good lyrics and compose good music when they do stuff
> for movies, I never understand. ondondu hADU karNakaTHOra mArAyre !
Agree.
> echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sb108579893269867976327300snlbxq'|dc
For whom this message?
sigONa,
Pavanaja
Mahesh Rao
Venkatesh Jagadeeshwara wrote:
> <hma...@idicl1.idi.oclc.org> writes:
> |> divangata shakarnAg nantara apaghAtadalli nAvu kaLedukonDa eraDanE
> |> kalAvida mAnu.
> |> entha duRdaiva !
> Infact ,actress malashree was seriously injured in that accident.
You are correct. I remember now.
echo '[q]sa[ln0=aln100%Pln100/snlbx]sb108579893269867976327300snlbxq'|dc
N Bhaskar
> I like these cassettes very
>much due to the fact -they are in the same tune as the original tunes of
>Kalinaga Rao. Many composers when they compose music to an already established
>have been tuned to the original famous tune) can not simply accept that.
>But sometimes the new tune can be really good and the old one will be wiped
>out from the memory.
>
for kaLinga rao when PB Srinivas' filmi version was released (and that
was good in itself, too) so it took quite a while for me to accept the
non-filmi versions. Now I find that every version of it has a beauty
which easily transcends the tune itself, surely something to do with
the verse itself. I quite like the filmi version of KSN's 'nannavaLu
nannedeya honnaaDanALuvaLu' too.
>2 'rAyaru bandaru mAvana manege' by KS Narasimhaswamy (mysore mallige),
> 'nannavaLu nannedeya honnADanADuvaLu' & 'baLegAra chennayya' by KSN
> (iruvantige) are some examples.
btw, do you have the sahitya for the song 'hattu varushada hinde
muttUra tErinali'? And the singer of the popular radio version
(was it in a movie as well?). I looked in dhk's sAhitya puta but
couldn't find it there.It's been quite some time since I listened
to that song and I remember always being reminded of Shakespeare's
"her voice was soft, gentle and low, an excellent thing in a woman"
line whenever I did listen to it. What memorable domestic romance
scenes that song painted on my impressionable mind! Taken with
Kalinga Rao's 'antintha heNNu neenalla' it probably summed up the
essence of marital romance for quite a few generations around ours.
Naa Bhaskara
U.B. Pavanaja
N Bhaskar wrote:
> btw, do you have the sahitya for the song 'hattu varushada hinde
> muttUra tErinali'? And the singer of the popular radio version
> (was it in a movie as well?). I looked in dhk's sAhitya puta but
> couldn't find it there.
No. I don't have it. Has anyone made it into a cassette? I haven't
come across any.
sigONa,
Pavanaja