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Da Lama, the jetsetting fundraiser who is laughing to the bank, leaves his followers prostating in a twirl of dust Re: After failed self-immolation, Tibetan [Dhondup says a lot of things that show Da Lama's followers would be better off going with the progressive Chinese society] - Tibetan Buddhism and the monks are the cause of their demise!
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lo yeeOn
Apr 19, 2013, 10:09:43 PM4/19/13
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So this week, the London bureau of CNN reported:
The Dalai Lama refused to answer a question Monday about whether
Tibetan monks should stop setting themselves on fire to protest
China's occupation of Tibet.
"No answer," he said, saying it was a sensitive political question
and that he had retired from politics.
Brian Dunning on Da Lama: the jetsetting fundraiser who is laughing to
the bank, leaving his followers prostating in the dust.
What's going on is that Tibetan Buddhist monks have been killing
themselves via self-imolation, setting themselves on fire. It's
about the most horrific way to die imaginable.
The Dalai Lama - who has maintained his headquarters in India ever
since the 1959 escape from Chinese forces in Tibet - is today
basically a fundraiser. He is, in fact, probably the most successful
individual fundraiser in the world. His is the rallying cry of
freeing Tibet from Chinese occupation... so westerners seem to think.
For more of Dunning's analysis and my comments, please read on.
In article <15195322.BF1exGC5KP@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <peter.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> After failed self-immolation, Tibetan [Dhondup says a lot of things that
>> show Da Lama's followers would be better off going with the progressive
>> Chinese society] - Tibetan Buddhism and the monks are the cause of their
>> demise!
>
>Would love to see ya Happy and laughing dear friend.
Following Pete Seeger's "Turn! Turn! Turn!" (remember The Byrds?):
There is a time for joy and a time for sorrow. And there is a time to
laugh and a time to weep. ... How about that?
I feel sorry for Da Lama's victims.
When you see puke, you don't laugh if you have normal feelings at all.
Instead, you feel disgusted. I feel disgusted every time I read the
bullshit coming from Dharamsala/FT/RFA. If you can feel happy when
you post those disgusting stories, then I question your sanity.
And I also feel that the Free Tibet (FT) crowd cannot have it both
ways:
On one hand, they claim that desperation is behind the Tibetans who
committed self-immolation and on another show Da Lama laughing about.
The truth is the Tibetans who embrace modern China can wear a smile on
their faces (and for good reasons - not the least is that they are now
empowered and look forward to a life of promise and normal longevity)
while those who embrace the return of Da Lama to Tibet or encourage
young, naive, and uneducated people to burn themselves for Da Lama to
live ten thousand years have no hope and necessarily feel desparate.
So, Tibetans must choose. They face pressure from subversive foreign
elements which exploit them, even at the cost of their very lives, for
the selfish gain of the scoundrels. But, they must choose.
lo yeeOn
Subject: Gyatso and the new life he was able to find, finally and
luckily, demonstrate a fundamental difference in attitude between
China and the TGIE toward self-immolation
The biggest difference in attitude between the Chinese government and
the so-called Tibetan government-in-exile towards the self-immolation
issue lies in whether they cherish young people's lives, according to
Gyatso. "People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court, and
the prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you cherish your
own life since you are so young?" But life is valueless for "Dusum
Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation[sic]". They were trying their best
to encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to stop me!
Note: "Dusum Legong" is the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile".
In article <4204284.n2CyJkYeX1@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Earlier, you were visibly sneering as you spit out these words (with
>> the line after the ">" coming from that of ltlee1's original post):
>
>Thank you kindly for pointing that out mister lo yeeOn.
>So stupid of me, sorry. But please do not abuse my words
>for other goals, they are not meant for that.
No need to pretend, Neljor!
Did you also state somewhere that "China is playing with fire"?
How so? Or did you mean the Free Tibet crowd and the TGIE are the
people who are playing with fire?
In any case, just read the story about Gyatso:
lo yeeOn
Behind the scenes of Tibetan's self-immolation
2013-01-24 07:38:36 GMT2013-01-24 15:38:36(Beijing Time) SINA.com
http://english.sina.com/china/2013/0123/552928.html
Editor's note: From a young monk who just wanted to learn "tsema" from
a learned master, to get involved in the "Tibet independence"
propaganda, then to earn money through participating in hunger strike
activities to enrich his experience, to a chosen potential
self-immolator, Gyatso was ignorant and had no time and consciousness
to think about the deep consequences and reasons behind what had
happened to him.
His simple mind and impulse had become the weakness used by Tibet
organization. Like many other Tibetan young men, Gyaso was an
enthusiastic and devout boy who had not formed his own mature view of
the world.
After having committed two failed self-immolations, Gyatso gradually
calmed down and developed a fear for his future. However, then he
hadn't come out of the crazy state as he had turned into a fanatic of
self-immolation from a young lama who once dreamed of "sacrifice
himself to religion".
A few days after the two failed self-immolation plans, Lhamo Ja found
Gyatso again, and told him that he had brought a good news, saying he
had received an instruction from Ala Jigme, a senior official from the
"Dusum Legong" (or the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"), that Gyatso would be sent to Tibet to commit
self-immolation so as to create a "bigger" influence.
After hearing the words, Gyatso hesitated and was reluctant to go back
to Tibet as he had broken the law when he stole into India, and he
would not know what to do if he were arrested.
Lhamo Ja was a little upset about Gyatso's attitude. However, he could
do nothing but to invite several big names to encourage Gyatso.
One night, Gyatso was received by "Dusum Legong" Kalon, a senior
officer of the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile". It was the first time for Gyatso to meet such
an "important person" since he had been in India.
At that time, Gyatso had a complicated feeling as he finally met
somebody thus he was determined to sacrifice for the 6 million Tibetan
people.
The officer, named Kalon Pema told you are chosen to conduct the
self-immolation in Lhasa, a place under the control of the Chinese
Central Government. Then it would be China's responsibility to explain
your fight for the cause of "Tibet independence". In this way we can
get the universal attention and support of the international
community, and you yourself can also become a hero admired by the
Tibetan people.
Kalon Pema told Gyatso that his family members or friends who sent his
self-immolation videotapes or pictures to India could get preferential
treatment and could be sent to abroad for further studying. "However,
if you are arrested, you shouldn't say anything about us or it will
bring bad influence to the "Tibetan government-in-exile. And you could
not come back if you didn't conduct self-immolation," said Kalon Pema.
Gyatso felt very angry about what Kalon Pema had told him, because in
his mind, he was to sacrifice for the cause of "Tibet independence".
How could he bring bad international influence to the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"?
However Gyatso held his own idea that the 14th Dalai Lama supported
him, so the "Tibetan government-in-exile" would not abandon him. He
obeyed their order.
In order to avoid exposing the meeting between "Dusum Legong" and
Gyatso, they decided to send Gyatso to Nepal.
In Nepal, Gyatso was given 400,000 Cordoba (about 8,040 $) to steal
back to Tibet with another name.
He went to Lhasa with a man named Thubten, who was also appointed by
the "Dusum Legong" and asked to shoot the scene when Gyatso committed
self-immolation.
However, after all the careful "preparations", Gyatso and his allies
were arrested before they arrived in Lhasa. Gyatso was brought to the
police station as he was extremely nervous and didn't have any
certificate.
What kind of penalty will Gyatso face after being arrested? Will
Thubten be brought to justice? Gyatso, the young lama who had been
wandering between life and death was neither the first nor the last
misguided fanatic who were controlled by their own irrational impulses
or certain people with ulterior motives.
The question of how to guide the young people to avoid the tragedies
occurring again must be answered.
Gyatso was brought to the police station and he was extremely nervous
as he didn't have ID. Later, he was found illegal entry. However, at
that time the police didn't know that he planned to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa.
At first, Gyatso didn't reveal anything about self-immolation, so he
began to fabricate stories to confuse the police. But his word was too
inconsistent, and even he himself was not convinced.
Gyatso once had a delusion that Thubten might come back to save
him. He was afraid to mention the connection with Thubten for fear of
revenge. But Gyatso finally confessed everything after he had known
that Thubten was also arrested.
During the trial, Gyatso admitted that he was sent to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa by the "Dusum Legong" (or the Security
Department of the "Tibetan government-in-exile"). To be honest, I did
not really want to die. I felt relieved when I heard that I was
sentenced to eight years.
At present, Gyatso said that his biggest wish was to live a new life
after being released as early as possible.
The biggest difference in attitude towards Chinese government and the
so-called Tibetan government-in-exile on self-immolation issue lies in
whether they cherish young people's life, according to Gyatso.
"People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court, and the
prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you cherish your own
life since you are so young?" But life is valueless for "Dusum
Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation". They were trying their best to
encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to stop me!
Gyatso said there were and would be many impulsive young men like him
who might follow the path of self-immolation if the Dalai clique still
propagated "Tibet Independence" overseas through all means like films
and newspapers.
Unfortunately, what Gyatso had been concerned came true now. One after
another young people have set themselves on fire and lost their lives
under the incitation of the Dalai clique.
Gyatso once said that he wished to add one picture of burning fire in
his story. "I wish anyone who reads my story could feel the pain I
was suffering."
Now, both Gyatso and Thubten have been released from prison, and they
have already returned to normal life, giving people some release.
From the time he stole into India till now, it seems that Gyatso has
had a nightmare. Fortunately, he is still alive.
The story of Gyatso explains a fact that anyone could be controlled or
manipulated under a frenzy and irrational mind state. Maybe Gyatso's
words could make a perfect ending to the story: "it is just like a
dream. Fortunately, I still have the hope to start my new life."
Source: China Tibet Online
------
Dalai Lama: Savior, or Selfish Jerk?
Posted on May 14, 2012 by Brian Dunning
Brian Dunning:
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2012/05/14/dalai-lama-savior-or-selfish-jerk/
So this week, the London bureau of CNN reported:
The Dalai Lama refused to answer a question Monday about whether
Tibetan monks should stop setting themselves on fire to protest
China's occupation of Tibet.
"No answer," he said, saying it was a sensitive political question
and that he had retired from politics.
What's going on is that Tibetan Buddhist monks have been killing
themselves via self-imolation, setting themselves on fire. It's about
the most horrific way to die imaginable.
The Dalai Lama - who has maintained his headquarters in India ever
since the 1959 escape from Chinese forces in Tibet - is today
basically a fundraiser. He is, in fact, probably the most successful
individual fundraiser in the world. His is the rallying cry of freeing
Tibet from Chinese occupation... so westerners seem to think.
All of the infrastructure that exists in Tibet was built by the
Chinese. Every paved road, every hospital, every school, and every
power plant (without exception) was built by the Chinese. Every single
paying job that exists in Tibet (without exception) was created by the
Chinese. Every literate native Tibetan (without exception) was
educated by the Chinese. The Chinese certainly have their faults, no
argument there; but the fact remains that Tibet exists as a nation of
free, working people only because of Chinese influence.
The Dalai Lama is keenly aware of that. His call is not for a "free
Tibet" as many westerners believe; it is for Tibet to be converted
from a Chinese Autonomous Region to a Chinese Special Administrative
Region, similar to Hong Kong. This difference would make not a single
practical difference to Tibetans; the only effect it would have would
be to allow the Dalai Lama and other exiled members of the ruling monk
class to return to their palace in Potala. It would ensure the
continued free flow of money from China to Tibet, and Tibet would
remain a part of China. There's not a thing wrong with the monks
returning to their palace, in my opinion. If ordinary Tibetans want
their traditional oppressors back in the palace as figureheads, great,
I'm all for it.
There's not a thing wrong with what the Dalai Lama campaigns for, or
with his fundraising - and here's where I want to be clear - so long
as he's honest about how the funds are going to be used. None of the
Dalai Lama's raised hundreds of millions of dollars that benefit
Tibetan citizens in the slightest. He gives most of it to unrelated
charities, and that's a fine thing; but his only prerogative in Tibet
is to get himself back to Potala. The Chinese already do everything
for the Tibetan citizenry; there is no work for the Dalai Lama to do
in that vein.
The rest of the money he raises go to his pet project: metaphysical
spirituality. In many ways, he's no different from Deepak Chopra;
except that instead of misstating quantum physics, he allows his
donors to misperceive his mission. The Dalai Lama is a highly
successful self-help and metaphysical author. He's written The Art of
Happiness: A Handbook for Living, How to Practice: The Way to a
Meaningful Life, How to See Yourself As You Really Are, The Dalai
Lama's Little Book of Inner Peace: The Essential Life and Teachings,
The Universe in a Single Atom: The Convergence of Science and
Spirituality (the most Deepak Chopra-like of his books), Becoming
Enlightened, Healing Anger: The Power of Patience from a Buddhist
Perspective, An Open Heart: Practicing Compassion in Everyday Life,
and dozens of others. He does not need your money.
There's nothing wrong with writing nonsensical metaphysical self-help
books, if that's what people want to buy. In fact, this week's news is
the only time I've had a real problem with the guy. And to me, it's a
big problem.
His followers are brutally killing themselves on his behalf, and his
only reaction is "No comment", followed by a lame excuse that he's
retired.
Why does he have no comment? Obviously, because his entire marketing
machine is driven by the perception that China's involvement in Tibet
is an atrocity. Every time a monk lights himself on fire, I guarantee
you that somewhere, the Dalai Lama's cash register's bell rings.
If asked for my comment on the deaths, 30 of them in the last year
alone, I'd say it's horrific and I wish they wouldn't do it, and
whoever is condoning it should be arrested. If I had influence over
them the way the Dalai Lama does, I'd have used the media opportunity
to appeal to all of them to stop doing that. Please. My return to
Potala is not worth your life.
Apparently, the Dalai Lama doesn't see it the way I do. For a
metaphysical self-help guru who wants you to find your inner peace and
happiness, his who-gives-a-shit reaction to his followers killing
themselves is pretty fucked up. Pardon my language, but swear words
are not nearly as atrocious as the Dalai Lama's "no comment". He might
as well have answered "Send me more money, and maybe they won't have
to keep doing that."
RMC = Ruling Monk Class
ORMC = Oppression from RMC
MCFA = Massive Chinese Financial Aid
XPLOS = Extreme Poverty from Lack of Support
RMCLIP = Ruling Monk Class Lives in Palace
ORMC MCFA XPLOS RMCLIP
What Tibet Used to Be: yes no yes yes
(ignored) province
What Tibet is Now" no yes no no
(Chinese Autonomous Region)
What the Dalai Lama Wants: not clear yes not clear yes
(Chinese Special Adminstrative Region like Hong Kong)
What Hollywood wants:
("Free Tibet") yes no yes yes
I've attached this infographic. No, I do not believe that Hollywood
celebrities and all the "Free Tibet" demonstrators want poverty and
oppression in Tibet; but if China's support was all suddenly pulled,
and every single Tibetan became unemployed and was forced to return to
serfdom, that's exactly what would happen, by necessity. Tibet has no
natural resources, no industries, and no economy whatsoever beyond
what China has imported. A free Tibet is a penniless Tibet, which is
why only those who know far less about the situation than the Dalai
Lama are demanding it.
2) Subject: After failed self-immolation, Tibetan [Dhondup says a lot
of things that show Da Lama's followers would be better off going with
the progressive Chinese society] - Tibetan Buddhism and the monks are
the cause of their demise!
This story illustrates sharply what the so-called Tibet problem is.
Anybody who follows Da Lama today is clearly unable to think.
This class of people just go by their beliefs - beliefs that the
Tibetan clergy spent centuries cultivating in the Tibetan masses'
minds. The people themselves were at the same time deprived of an
education and of an ability to think for themselves.
They believe in such harmful things as:
* After you die, you will reincarnate - so it's no big deal to live or
die.
* The center of the universe is Da Lama - so whatever he says or is
said to have said must be true.
* Education is not important - but you can still make a contribution
by burning yourself up in a painful death so that Da Lama would live
ten thousand years.
* Understanding your religious belief is not important, just as long
as you are free to prostrate before a larger-than-life color photo of
Da Lama - that means that you don't have to know what the original
Buddha taught and that means that you don't have to know that suicide
is just as unacceptable as killing a fly to a real buddhist.
As a result, the man in the following story that the Washington Post
is trying to glorify doesn't know "what consequences his action would
yield in his next life" but does "believe Tibet will be free during my
lifetime because of the Dalai Lama's leadership"; and he tried to kill
himself to let the world know that "Tibetans in Tibet are not alone in
their suffering" but "won't do it again but only because he doesn't
want to create trouble for the Dalai Lama".
Dawa Dhondup's story only strengthens the argument that the Tibetans
under Da Lama and his cohorts in exile are incompetent to have a
country even the size of Monaco to run, not to mention one-sixth of
China's current territory - except to have a bunch of western
investors/contractors to run their country to the ground.
If Da Lama's followers were educated and therefore could think for
themselves, then I or somebody else could explain to them why China
just can't afford to let their beliefs run China to the ground,
although they can and are invited to march forward together with the
rest of the Chinese people to achieve a more just, more prosperous,
more righteous, and more self-fulfilling future. And I would be able
to perhaps make them see that right now their efforts and sacrifices
are all for naught because Da Lama is being used by the West's
political organs for their geopolitical aims and are treating them
like yo-yos.
You see, Da Lama's ignorant followers in China can self-immolate 'til
kingdom cometh, and China will just stay its course viz. Tibet.
Anytime a country mentions human rights and freedom to China, China
will just patiently repeat its position on Tibet and its aim for the
Tibetan people (which is universal for all Chinese people). Also
China will not neglect to mention the self-immolation self-help manual
it has uncovered on the internet or the confession of young Gyatso:
The biggest difference in attitude towards Chinese government and
the so-called Tibetan government-in-exile on self-immolation issue
lies in whether they cherish young people's life, according to
Gyatso. "People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court,
and the prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you
cherish your own life since you are so young?" But life is
valueless for "Dusum Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation". They were
trying their best to encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to
stop me!
And regarding religious freedom, the following link tells us:
http://www.360doc.com/content/12/1218/12/363711_254750835.shtml
One of the most frequently mentioned by the Dalai Lama about the
true reasons behind self-immolations was "religious oppression" in
China.
However, the truth is religion freedom is protected according to the
Chinese Constitution. China has strived to improve the development
of Tibetan Buddhism. The efforts are so obvious that they could not
be hidden by the Dalai Lama's simple assumption.
What's more ironic is that Dalai Lama himself was once accused by
India for "religious oppression" because he prohibited the
communication between the believers of Gelug sects and other
religious sects in Tibetan Buddhism.
As the Tibet-Houses and Tibetan exiles in the West keep manipulating
the public opinion while the senior monks in monasteries in Dharamsala
and inside China keep manipulating the young and ignorant kinds to
commit their so-called "protest but not suicide" self-immolations for
Da Lama. (They are doing such a grotesque vaudeville act just so as
to paint a negative but false image of China - an act not for the
benefit of the Tibetans at large, who, they well know, are, if they
follow Da Lama, too uninformed and too trusting of that treacherous
man to know the truth, but only for the manipulators themselves.)
But China's progress engine will move forward, with or without those
Tibetans who choose to follow Da Lama. In the end, it will be those
Tibetans who remain alive, get an education, and get empowered who
will survive and prosper while Da Lama and his monks will vanish - a
just form of Darwinism, if you want to look at it that way.
Finally, notice that Dhondup was charged with the crime of "attempted
suicide" by the Indian police.
So why should China be criticized for its policy to crackdown on
self-immolation, especially those who are involved in encouraging such
acts? Also self-immolation is said to be "surprisingly common in
India". If so, why does the West's media only focuses its criticism
on China but not India? (Indeed, some 200 Indians self-immolated in
protest of a reform to weaken the caste system.)
Let's face it. a civilized society recognizes that attempting suicide
is a crime because it is harmful to society.
And we know that Tibetan monks from certain sects inside Tibet have
been actively pursuing a policy of persuading young, naive, and
uneducated Tibetans (and particularly orphans) to commit suicide to
support the statistics and sensationalism of the Free Tibet propaganda
campaign from outside China.
It is not about religious freedom or human rights and China has no
choice but to stick to its policy to protect the society. (And
anyway, in a Tibet ruled by Da Lama, see how much religious freedom
say a Baptist minister might get.)
For this reason, despite the 22 US senators' letter and despite HRW's
Sophie Richardson and other Free Tibet mouthpieces' vocal urging of
Secretary of State John Kelley to speak out on the Tibetan issue, he
said nothing during his visit to China to any of the host country's
officials. And the State Department waited for him to clear out of
China before issuing a lip-service call to China to talk to Da Lama,
someone China sees as a traitor and the same person who has not told
his ignorant followers that self-immolation is suicide and is against
Buddhism.
Da Lama has condemned himself. But worse, his continuing presence in
the Tibetan struggle has also doomed the prospects of that struggle.
lo yeeOn
1) Young Gyatso's moving confession - the culture of life versus the
culture of death
Behind the scenes of Tibetan's self-immolation
2013-01-24 07:38:36 GMT2013-01-24 15:38:36(Beijing Time) SINA.com
http://english.sina.com/china/2013/0123/552928.html
Editor's note: From a young monk who just wanted to learn "tsema" from
a learned master, to get involved in the "Tibet independence"
propaganda, then to earn money through participating in hunger strike
activities to enrich his experience, to a chosen potential
self-immolator, Gyatso was ignorant and had no time and consciousness
to think about the deep consequences and reasons behind what had
happened to him.
His simple mind and impulse had become the weakness used by Tibet
organization. Like many other Tibetan young men, Gyaso was an
enthusiastic and devout boy who had not formed his own mature view of
the world.
After having committed two failed self-immolations, Gyatso gradually
calmed down and developed a fear for his future. However, then he
hadn't come out of the crazy state as he had turned into a fanatic of
self-immolation from a young lama who once dreamed of "sacrifice
himself to religion".
A few days after the two failed self-immolation plans, Lhamo Ja found
Gyatso again, and told him that he had brought a good news, saying he
had received an instruction from Ala Jigme, a senior official from the
"Dusum Legong" (or the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"), that Gyatso would be sent to Tibet to commit
self-immolation so as to create a "bigger" influence.
After hearing the words, Gyatso hesitated and was reluctant to go back
to Tibet as he had broken the law when he stole into India, and he
would not know what to do if he were arrested.
Lhamo Ja was a little upset about Gyatso's attitude. However, he could
do nothing but to invite several big names to encourage Gyatso.
One night, Gyatso was received by "Dusum Legong" Kalon, a senior
officer of the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile". It was the first time for Gyatso to meet such
an "important person" since he had been in India.
At that time, Gyatso had a complicated feeling as he finally met
somebody thus he was determined to sacrifice for the 6 million Tibetan
people.
The officer, named Kalon Pema told you are chosen to conduct the
self-immolation in Lhasa, a place under the control of the Chinese
Central Government. Then it would be China's responsibility to explain
your fight for the cause of "Tibet independence". In this way we can
get the universal attention and support of the international
community, and you yourself can also become a hero admired by the
Tibetan people.
Kalon Pema told Gyatso that his family members or friends who sent his
self-immolation videotapes or pictures to India could get preferential
treatment and could be sent to abroad for further studying. "However,
if you are arrested, you shouldn't say anything about us or it will
bring bad influence to the "Tibetan government-in-exile. And you could
not come back if you didn't conduct self-immolation," said Kalon Pema.
Gyatso felt very angry about what Kalon Pema had told him, because in
his mind, he was to sacrifice for the cause of "Tibet independence".
How could he bring bad international influence to the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"?
However Gyatso held his own idea that the 14th Dalai Lama supported
him, so the "Tibetan government-in-exile" would not abandon him. He
obeyed their order.
In order to avoid exposing the meeting between "Dusum Legong" and
Gyatso, they decided to send Gyatso to Nepal.
In Nepal, Gyatso was given 400,000 Cordoba (about 8,040 $) to steal
back to Tibet with another name.
He went to Lhasa with a man named Thubten, who was also appointed by
the "Dusum Legong" and asked to shoot the scene when Gyatso committed
self-immolation.
However, after all the careful "preparations", Gyatso and his allies
were arrested before they arrived in Lhasa. Gyatso was brought to the
police station as he was extremely nervous and didn't have any
certificate.
What kind of penalty will Gyatso face after being arrested? Will
Thubten be brought to justice? Gyatso, the young lama who had been
wandering between life and death was neither the first nor the last
misguided fanatic who were controlled by their own irrational impulses
or certain people with ulterior motives.
The question of how to guide the young people to avoid the tragedies
occurring again must be answered.
Gyatso was brought to the police station and he was extremely nervous
as he didn't have ID. Later, he was found illegal entry. However, at
that time the police didn't know that he planned to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa.
At first, Gyatso didn't reveal anything about self-immolation, so he
began to fabricate stories to confuse the police. But his word was too
inconsistent, and even he himself was not convinced.
Gyatso once had a delusion that Thubten might come back to save
him. He was afraid to mention the connection with Thubten for fear of
revenge. But Gyatso finally confessed everything after he had known
that Thubten was also arrested.
During the trial, Gyatso admitted that he was sent to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa by the "Dusum Legong" (or the Security
Department of the "Tibetan government-in-exile"). To be honest, I did
not really want to die. I felt relieved when I heard that I was
sentenced to eight years.
At present, Gyatso said that his biggest wish was to live a new life
after being released as early as possible.
The biggest difference in attitude towards Chinese government and the
so-called Tibetan government-in-exile on self-immolation issue lies in
whether they cherish young people's life, according to Gyatso.
"People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court, and the
prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you cherish your own
life since you are so young?" But life is valueless for "Dusum
Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation". They were trying their best to
encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to stop me!
Gyatso said there were and would be many impulsive young men like him
who might follow the path of self-immolation if the Dalai clique still
propagated "Tibet Independence" overseas through all means like films
and newspapers.
Unfortunately, what Gyatso had been concerned came true now. One after
another young people have set themselves on fire and lost their lives
under the incitation of the Dalai clique.
Gyatso once said that he wished to add one picture of burning fire in
his story. "I wish anyone who reads my story could feel the pain I
was suffering."
Now, both Gyatso and Thubten have been released from prison, and they
have already returned to normal life, giving people some release.
From the time he stole into India till now, it seems that Gyatso has
had a nightmare. Fortunately, he is still alive.
The story of Gyatso explains a fact that anyone could be controlled or
manipulated under a frenzy and irrational mind state. Maybe Gyatso's
words could make a perfect ending to the story: "it is just like a
dream. Fortunately, I still have the hope to start my new life."
Source: China Tibet Online
2a) China uncovered a self-taught self-immolation manual on internet
China and Tibet
http://www.economist.com/news/letters/21576051-climate-change-north-korea-tibet-india-cyprus-egypt-tax-avoidance-europe
Sir - Regarding the self-immolations of Tibetans ("The limits of
despair", March 9th), our hearts go out to the families and we
sincerely hope that similar incidents never happen again. But ever
since the first self-immolation, the Dalai Lama has never uttered a
single word to stop similar incidents from happening. Recently, the
Dalai clique put forward "A Guidance to Self-immolation" on the
internet, instigating Tibetans inside or outside of China to
"implement self-immolation in accordance with the plan and procedure."
After each and every incident of self-immolation, the Dalai clique is
instantly able to provide the media with video footages, photos and
detailed information.
At the end of 2012, the police bureaus in Sichuan, Qinhai and Guansu
provinces uncovered a handful of cases involving incited or forced
self-immolations. Ample facts prove that these incidents were
masterminded behind the scenes.
Over the past 60 years since the peaceful liberation of Tibet, and
especially since 1978, the central government has implemented policy
measures to boost the economy, improve living standards, protect the
traditional culture and safeguard the freedom of religion in Tibet.
Its economy and society have undergone huge improvements. The
population jumped from 1.2m in 1959 to 3m at the end of 2011, 91% of
whom are ethnic Tibetans. Today there are 1,700 religious sites of all
kinds.
The central government has always supported the study of Tibetan
language. A teaching system using both Tibetan and mandarin with
Tibetan as the principal language has already been put into practice
in all areas. Tibetan has become the first ever ethnic language with
international coding standard and can thus be processed by the
computer system.
He Rulong
Spokesperson of the Chinese embassy
London
2b) My earlier comments in these newsgroups on the news that China has
uncovered a self-immolation guide on the internet allegedly authored
by Lhamo Je, a senior member of the Dalai Lama clique's "education
system".
Breaking, Breaking: Da Lama got caught with his pants on fire!
Details of a "Self-immolation Guide" posted on the Internet - the
Guide is an indictment of the desperate and fascist tactics of the
TGIE and its "Free Tibet" zealots.
But if you're unwilling to self-immolate yourselves, please stop the
folly of glorifying self-immolation and sacrificing others.
Also, the demand (from the Prime Minister of the unelected government
in exile) that if you are a Tibetan, then you should do nothing except
to practice religious rituals over the long Losar holidays is nothing
but religious dictatorship! It does not only go against the ideal of
separation of church and state that the West espouses, but also
against the principle of individual choice and freedom.
I don't care how many Tibetans in China want to have Da Lama back to
rule over them and keep them in the Dark Ages.
If the system these exiles are working to bring back to Tibet means
you must worship its god king Da Lama, then it is not a system I want
to see returning to Tibet.
The centuries of suffering the Tibetan people went through because the
devious and deceitful lamas had the free hand to enslave the masses
are mercifully in the past. Now, it seems that most of the desire for
restoring the dark rules of the Tibetan Ages has come only from the
exiles and the few monasteries inside China these exiles have remnants
of influence over; so in fact, Da Lama does not seem to have as many
Tibetans in China as the TGIE and the "Free Tibet" zealots as well as
their western supporters have claimed.
If these deceitful lamas are telling the self-immolation candidates
that they would be buddhas if they sacrifice their own lives for a
"Free Tibet", then Da Lama should lead the way, since for one thing,
he will by his own teaching reincarnate as Da Lama when he dies. So
it is an absolute win-win action to take. All the "Free Tibet" crowd
should follow Da Lama and sacrifice their own lives for a "Free Tibet"
to become buddhas.
One thing they should not be allowed to do is to sacrifice children
inside China while Da Lama continues to sit on his fat ass and gossip
about his friendship with this or that celebrity. Da Lama should be
leading the way to this last struggle the exiles want.
Finally, I should mention that the Indian police were doing a good job
saving the life of someone who was about to ignite himself into flames
- images the TGIE and "Free Tibet" zealots could use - with his body
as well as stomach filled with flammable fluid, as the exiles were
staging a protest in Dharamsala to commemorate the CIA-engineered
rebellion in Tibet decades ago that resulted in driving Da Lama into
permanent exile.
It must not be fun to have all that poison filling up your stomach.
But at least he will live!
And he should realize that the lamas and zealots in exiles are
deceitful and the goal of a "Free Tibet" is not even compatible with
the position Da Lama and TGIE have long taken under their "Middle Way"
banner. I recall reading a Canadian newspaper editorial saying that
it is one thing for Canada to support more human rights in Tibet, it
is another for Canada to wade into the morass of supporting Tibet
Independence, which is what the zealots want and what they want the
Tibetans in China to sacrifice their lives for. Too bad those who
burned themselves were so poorly informed that they did not realize
that Da Lama holds a different official position from the position
they were instructed to advocate, at the moment prior to their painful
deaths. Too damn bad that these innocent lives were manipulated into
extinction by the heartless and deceitful exiles.
lo yeeOn
'Self-immolation Guide': desperate insanity of the Dalai clique
Updated: 2013-03-08 07:07
By Yi Duo (China Daily)
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2013-03/08/content_16290357.htm
A video clip from a recent China Central Television program of the
"Self-immolation Guide" posted on the Internet. The alleged author is
Lhamo Je, a senior member of the Dalai Lama clique's "education
system". File Photo
Editor's note: China Tibet Online, a multi-language media website
dedicated to providing news stories on Tibetans living in China, has
recently published a bylined opinion article on the "Self-immolation
Guide" produced by the Dalai Lama clique. Following is the full text
of the article published by Xinhua News Agency:
Recently, the Dalai clique published a "Self-immolation Guide" on the
Internet, openly inciting Tibetans within the Chinese border to "carry
out self-immolations according to the plan and procedures."
The "Self-immolation Guide" demonstrates a sober attitude in scheming
and arranging the cruel actions of self-immolations, which makes it
stand out among the many propaganda of the Dalai clique, and thus soon
get intensive spotlight.
The book is published in the name of one person only for the "Tibetan
government-in-exile" to avoid public condemnation toward its overt
manipulation of self-immolations. The alleged author of the
"Instructions" is Lhamo Je, who had been a "member of parliament" for
two terms in the "parliament" of the Dalai clique and now still has an
important position in its "educational system."
The "guide" consists of four parts. The first part is an ideological
mobilization which advocates the idea that self-immolators are "great
and honorable fearless heroes" and that "both male and female heroes"
should be ready at all times to sacrifice for the "just cause."
The second part gives detailed instruction on the "self-immolation
preparation," including "picking important days and places," "leaving
written or recorded last words," and "asking a couple of trustworthy
people to help record videos and take photos."
The third part introduces "self-immolation slogans" and instructs the
self-immolators to shout "Free Tibet, let the Dalai Lama return to
Tibet, and release political prisoners" and so forth, and asks them to
print out the slogans into leaflets to scatter them on the spot so as
to increase the impact.
The fourth part illustrates "other non-violent activities" such as
"shouting loudly the campaign slogans at schools and other populated
places," "making public speeches," and "filing petitions to the
central government," and points out that "it is very important to
launch various activities in political, economic, religious and
cultural fields."
No matter from which perspective, this "Self-immolation Guide" can yet
be regarded as "a remarkable piece of writing," not only for its
advocacy for destruction of human life in absolute violation against
law and Buddhist teachings, but for that it is tantamount to a
"confession" of the Dalai clique which has committed the crime of
manipulating self-immolations.
As the head of the "Tibetan government-in-exile" Lobsang Sangay has
asked the Chinese government to show evidence of the Dalai clique's
manipulation of the self-immolations, and "welcome" the Chinese
government to send groups to Dharamsala to search for evidence, they
have now made public the evidence by themselves.
The reliability of the evidence lies not only in the source of the
writer, a senior official of the Dalai clique, but also in the
confirmation of every item of the contents listed by previous
self-immolations.
In fact, almost every self-burning happened just like what the "guide"
had planned some people videotaping the scene, some people shouting
separatist slogans, inciting and gathering others to stop the
government from taking rescue actions.
Sometimes the Dalai clique was able to hype the burning cases with
photos and personal data of the self-immolators obtained only dozens
of minutes after the incidents.
The contents of the "last words" shouted by some self-immolators are
exactly the same as in the "guide."
According to Lorang Konchok, who has pleaded guilty of intentional
homicide, he acted on the instructions of the Dalai clique to make use
of his status and influence in the temple, and incited, instigated and
coerced others to burn themselves with the help of his nephew.
Before the self-burning happened, Lorang Konchok recorded the
individual and family information of the self-immolators and took
photos for them. Once the self-immolation was committed, he sent the
information immediately to the Dalai clique via a cell phone.
The "guide" aims to _standardize and systematize the self-immolation
behavior so as to manipulate it like an assembly line in the future_,
and reach the goal to be _more efficient_ as set down by the Dalai
Lama.
The "guide" also gives a slap in the face to some Western forces. In
order to contain and split China, for many years these forces have set
the Dalai Lama as a "non-violent" model that represents struggle.
After the self-immolation incidents, they completely disregarded the
facts, denied the crimes committed by the Dalai clique, and accused
the policy made by the Chinese government of causing the
self-immolations. Furthermore, they even showed sympathy for and
"concern" to those criminals who have been sentenced to jail in line
with Chinese law to encourage the self-immolation manipulators.
The publication of the "guide," which openly admitted the crime of the
Dalai clique's inciting and scheming self-immolations, its political
motivations as well as its future plans for continued manipulations,
has not saved the faces of his Western masters.
Why did the Dalai clique publish the "Self-immolation Guide" at this
moment? The reason is that the extremists among them feel desperate.
According to the Canadian Sing Tao Daily, the Dalai clique once
instructed his followers earnestly and tirelessly, "Suppose we resort
to arms to achieve our objective, we need guns and ammunition in the
first place, but who will sell them to us? If we find the seller,
where can we get the money? Even if we have money and get guns, how
can these guns be transported to China and through which country's
border? The CIA once air-lifted guns for us, which happened in the
past and will never happen again."
The Dalai clique drew a lesson from its own failures: That seeking
"Tibet independence" through violent activities publicly did not work,
and it is better to adopt the "Middle-way Approach," which can deceive
the world and seek "Tibet independence" indirectly. However, this
political plot has not made any progress since its existence, and even
the channel of contact and talk with the central government was
blocked by themselves.
Up to now, the scheme of manipulating self-immolations has been worked
out by racking their brains as "the highest form of non-violent
struggle," which will be doomed. All of these make some extremists
more and more impatient, so they had to publish the "guide," hoping
this wicked fire can make some "achievements" before it extinguishes.
Another reason for the publication of the "guide" is that
self-immolations have not achieved the effect in the international
community as the Dalai clique had expected. Even if some Western
powers always support the Dalai clique, they dare not take such a huge
risk of losing political reputation or moral legality to openly
support manipulating self-immolations, which is a disguised form of
violence and terrorism.
The head of the "government-in-exile" lamented, "There was a
self-immolation in Tunisia which was labeled the catalyst for the Arab
Spring. How come we have been given less support than what we
witnessed in the Arab world?" reported the New York Times on Feb. 3.
A comment from the Chinese News Net revealed the truth, "In fact, the
self-immolations of Tibetans have rarely received support from the
international community."
It is hard to imagine that how the international community can support
such brutal and inhumane acts. The Chinese government does not create
conditions to encourage Tibetans to self-immolate. Hence it cannot be
condemned.
Western countries all understand the background of self-immolations,
so they are already doing the "Tibetan government-in-exile" a big
favor by not condemning them.
The Dalai clique attempted to prompt more self-immolations through
publishing the "guide" in order to beg for more international
compassion. This act has actually made the international community
recognize the ferocity and insanity of the Dalai clique clearly, and
urged some Western powers to hold back when supporting the Dalai
clique.
The "guide" published by the Dalai clique was an attempt in political
blackmail, against the Chinese government, but it turned out to be in
vain.
If plotting "Tibet independence" failed in 1959 through the military
confrontation and armed rebellion, how will it be possible by inciting
several poor people to burn themselves?
As a matter of fact, through the joint efforts of all levels of local
governments at the spots of the incidents, the frequency of
self-immolations has been curbed and the evidence of the Dalai
clique's role in manipulating such acts has been made clear. Many
criminals, whose acts are detested by the local people, have been
brought to justice.
All of these fully show the unpopularity of the Dalai clique in China
and the popularity of the Chinese government. The government will win
the battle of anti-self-immolation as long as it does not hold
unrealistic hopes from the Dalai clique, nor expects some Western
forces to be kind, but keep the situation under control on the basis
of its own work.
The Dalai clique's fantasy that every self-immolation will exert some
pressure on the Chinese government will be highly counter-productive.
On the contrary, every self-immolation case that occurred was an
additional bloody crime the Dalai clique committed on its own ethnic
Tibetans.
Some people from the clique including the plotters of the
"Self-immolation Guide" told the public repeatedly that
self-immolation is a kind of "peaceful protest" and expected to get
the same attention as the vendors in Tunisia. Then please teach
yourselves by following the guide first if you believe it is a good
idea to die, like what the netizens have called for. If you dare not
burn yourselves, please stop the folly as early as possible.
Just as Lu Xun, a famous Chinese writer, said that people who are
alive themselves have no right to persuade others to die. Nor do those
with the Dalai clique.
In article <8098749.pzBaqtTfBC@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <peter.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>After failed self-immolation, Tibetan says "I won't repeat it"
>
>By Vishal Arora| Religion News Service,
>
>DHARAMSALA, India - After more than 100 Tibetans have set themselves
>on fire, a man who tried and failed says he "won't do it again" but
>only because he doesn't want to create trouble for the Dalai Lama.
>
>"I won't try to burn myself again," said the 30-year-old survivor
>Dawa Dhondup, a shy and soft-spoken man in Dharamsala, the Himalayan
>seat of the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile in northern India.
>
>Dhondup drank kerosene and poured it all over his body before
>hundreds of Tibetans at a March 10 procession here to mark the
>anniversary of a failed 1959 uprising against Chinese rule. As he was
>about to light a match, fellow Tibetans and police overpowered him.
>
>He has spent the last month undergoing treatment for the kerosene
>poisoning, and recently started a job as a cook at a Tibetan school.
>
>Dhondup said he wanted to show solidarity with the 115 Tibetans who
>have self-immolated inside Tibet to protest Chinese rule and call for
>restoration of freedom and the return of the Dalai Lama.
>
>While he doesn't regret his actions, he regrets any headaches he
>caused for the Dalai Lama in his adopted home city. It was the first
>time a Tibetan had tried to self-immolate near the Dalai Lama's
>headquarters.
>
>Local police charged Dhondup with attempted suicide, and warned local
>Tibetans they could face restrictions if they tried to demonstrate on
>his behalf or otherwise cause trouble. A local Tibetan Youth Congress
>leader, Tenzin Tsundue, gave a written promise that no Tibetans in
>Dharamsala would attempt a similar act.
>
>The attempted suicide raised concerns with the Indian government
>because China has accused the Dalai Lama of inciting monks and nuns
>inside Tibet to set themselves ablaze. New Delhi often uses the
>presence of the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government-in-exile as
>leverage with China, but generally avoids provoking the ire of
>Beijing.
>
>Dhondup, who walked for five days from his home in southern Tibet to
>India at age 18, said he was deeply disturbed by the criticism that
>the recent spate of self-immolations have failed to bring change in
>China's Tibet policy.
>
>"I wanted the world to know Tibetans in Tibet are not alone in their
>suffering," he said.
>
>A Buddhist and believer in reincarnation, Dhondup said he didn't know
>what consequences his action would yield in his next life. "Since
>I'm not educated, I had no other way to contribute; that's all I
>thought of."
>
>He added that he wasn't afraid of a painful death, nor was he devoid
>of hope.
>
>"I believe Tibet will be free during my lifetime because of the Dalai
>Lama's leadership," he said. "But there's no freedom in Tibet right
>now, and I wanted to do something about it. I won't repeat it
>though."
>
>Copyright: For copyright information, please check with the
>distributor of this item, Religion News Service LLC.
>
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/after-failed-self-immolation-tibetan-says-i-wont-repeat-it/2013/04/18/541236dc-a85e-11e2-9e1c-bb0fb0c2edd9_story.html
The Dalai Lama refused to answer a question Monday about whether
Tibetan monks should stop setting themselves on fire to protest
China's occupation of Tibet.
"No answer," he said, saying it was a sensitive political question
and that he had retired from politics.
Brian Dunning on Da Lama: the jetsetting fundraiser who is laughing to
the bank, leaving his followers prostating in the dust.
What's going on is that Tibetan Buddhist monks have been killing
themselves via self-imolation, setting themselves on fire. It's
about the most horrific way to die imaginable.
The Dalai Lama - who has maintained his headquarters in India ever
since the 1959 escape from Chinese forces in Tibet - is today
basically a fundraiser. He is, in fact, probably the most successful
individual fundraiser in the world. His is the rallying cry of
freeing Tibet from Chinese occupation... so westerners seem to think.
For more of Dunning's analysis and my comments, please read on.
In article <15195322.BF1exGC5KP@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <peter.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> After failed self-immolation, Tibetan [Dhondup says a lot of things that
>> show Da Lama's followers would be better off going with the progressive
>> Chinese society] - Tibetan Buddhism and the monks are the cause of their
>> demise!
>
>Would love to see ya Happy and laughing dear friend.
Following Pete Seeger's "Turn! Turn! Turn!" (remember The Byrds?):
There is a time for joy and a time for sorrow. And there is a time to
laugh and a time to weep. ... How about that?
I feel sorry for Da Lama's victims.
When you see puke, you don't laugh if you have normal feelings at all.
Instead, you feel disgusted. I feel disgusted every time I read the
bullshit coming from Dharamsala/FT/RFA. If you can feel happy when
you post those disgusting stories, then I question your sanity.
And I also feel that the Free Tibet (FT) crowd cannot have it both
ways:
On one hand, they claim that desperation is behind the Tibetans who
committed self-immolation and on another show Da Lama laughing about.
The truth is the Tibetans who embrace modern China can wear a smile on
their faces (and for good reasons - not the least is that they are now
empowered and look forward to a life of promise and normal longevity)
while those who embrace the return of Da Lama to Tibet or encourage
young, naive, and uneducated people to burn themselves for Da Lama to
live ten thousand years have no hope and necessarily feel desparate.
So, Tibetans must choose. They face pressure from subversive foreign
elements which exploit them, even at the cost of their very lives, for
the selfish gain of the scoundrels. But, they must choose.
lo yeeOn
Subject: Gyatso and the new life he was able to find, finally and
luckily, demonstrate a fundamental difference in attitude between
China and the TGIE toward self-immolation
The biggest difference in attitude between the Chinese government and
the so-called Tibetan government-in-exile towards the self-immolation
issue lies in whether they cherish young people's lives, according to
Gyatso. "People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court, and
the prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you cherish your
own life since you are so young?" But life is valueless for "Dusum
Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation[sic]". They were trying their best
to encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to stop me!
Note: "Dusum Legong" is the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile".
In article <4204284.n2CyJkYeX1@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <pe...@dharma.dyndns.info> wrote:
>lo yeeOn wrote:
>
>> Earlier, you were visibly sneering as you spit out these words (with
>> the line after the ">" coming from that of ltlee1's original post):
>
>Thank you kindly for pointing that out mister lo yeeOn.
>So stupid of me, sorry. But please do not abuse my words
>for other goals, they are not meant for that.
No need to pretend, Neljor!
Did you also state somewhere that "China is playing with fire"?
How so? Or did you mean the Free Tibet crowd and the TGIE are the
people who are playing with fire?
In any case, just read the story about Gyatso:
lo yeeOn
Behind the scenes of Tibetan's self-immolation
2013-01-24 07:38:36 GMT2013-01-24 15:38:36(Beijing Time) SINA.com
http://english.sina.com/china/2013/0123/552928.html
Editor's note: From a young monk who just wanted to learn "tsema" from
a learned master, to get involved in the "Tibet independence"
propaganda, then to earn money through participating in hunger strike
activities to enrich his experience, to a chosen potential
self-immolator, Gyatso was ignorant and had no time and consciousness
to think about the deep consequences and reasons behind what had
happened to him.
His simple mind and impulse had become the weakness used by Tibet
organization. Like many other Tibetan young men, Gyaso was an
enthusiastic and devout boy who had not formed his own mature view of
the world.
After having committed two failed self-immolations, Gyatso gradually
calmed down and developed a fear for his future. However, then he
hadn't come out of the crazy state as he had turned into a fanatic of
self-immolation from a young lama who once dreamed of "sacrifice
himself to religion".
A few days after the two failed self-immolation plans, Lhamo Ja found
Gyatso again, and told him that he had brought a good news, saying he
had received an instruction from Ala Jigme, a senior official from the
"Dusum Legong" (or the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"), that Gyatso would be sent to Tibet to commit
self-immolation so as to create a "bigger" influence.
After hearing the words, Gyatso hesitated and was reluctant to go back
to Tibet as he had broken the law when he stole into India, and he
would not know what to do if he were arrested.
Lhamo Ja was a little upset about Gyatso's attitude. However, he could
do nothing but to invite several big names to encourage Gyatso.
One night, Gyatso was received by "Dusum Legong" Kalon, a senior
officer of the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile". It was the first time for Gyatso to meet such
an "important person" since he had been in India.
At that time, Gyatso had a complicated feeling as he finally met
somebody thus he was determined to sacrifice for the 6 million Tibetan
people.
The officer, named Kalon Pema told you are chosen to conduct the
self-immolation in Lhasa, a place under the control of the Chinese
Central Government. Then it would be China's responsibility to explain
your fight for the cause of "Tibet independence". In this way we can
get the universal attention and support of the international
community, and you yourself can also become a hero admired by the
Tibetan people.
Kalon Pema told Gyatso that his family members or friends who sent his
self-immolation videotapes or pictures to India could get preferential
treatment and could be sent to abroad for further studying. "However,
if you are arrested, you shouldn't say anything about us or it will
bring bad influence to the "Tibetan government-in-exile. And you could
not come back if you didn't conduct self-immolation," said Kalon Pema.
Gyatso felt very angry about what Kalon Pema had told him, because in
his mind, he was to sacrifice for the cause of "Tibet independence".
How could he bring bad international influence to the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"?
However Gyatso held his own idea that the 14th Dalai Lama supported
him, so the "Tibetan government-in-exile" would not abandon him. He
obeyed their order.
In order to avoid exposing the meeting between "Dusum Legong" and
Gyatso, they decided to send Gyatso to Nepal.
In Nepal, Gyatso was given 400,000 Cordoba (about 8,040 $) to steal
back to Tibet with another name.
He went to Lhasa with a man named Thubten, who was also appointed by
the "Dusum Legong" and asked to shoot the scene when Gyatso committed
self-immolation.
However, after all the careful "preparations", Gyatso and his allies
were arrested before they arrived in Lhasa. Gyatso was brought to the
police station as he was extremely nervous and didn't have any
certificate.
What kind of penalty will Gyatso face after being arrested? Will
Thubten be brought to justice? Gyatso, the young lama who had been
wandering between life and death was neither the first nor the last
misguided fanatic who were controlled by their own irrational impulses
or certain people with ulterior motives.
The question of how to guide the young people to avoid the tragedies
occurring again must be answered.
Gyatso was brought to the police station and he was extremely nervous
as he didn't have ID. Later, he was found illegal entry. However, at
that time the police didn't know that he planned to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa.
At first, Gyatso didn't reveal anything about self-immolation, so he
began to fabricate stories to confuse the police. But his word was too
inconsistent, and even he himself was not convinced.
Gyatso once had a delusion that Thubten might come back to save
him. He was afraid to mention the connection with Thubten for fear of
revenge. But Gyatso finally confessed everything after he had known
that Thubten was also arrested.
During the trial, Gyatso admitted that he was sent to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa by the "Dusum Legong" (or the Security
Department of the "Tibetan government-in-exile"). To be honest, I did
not really want to die. I felt relieved when I heard that I was
sentenced to eight years.
At present, Gyatso said that his biggest wish was to live a new life
after being released as early as possible.
The biggest difference in attitude towards Chinese government and the
so-called Tibetan government-in-exile on self-immolation issue lies in
whether they cherish young people's life, according to Gyatso.
"People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court, and the
prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you cherish your own
life since you are so young?" But life is valueless for "Dusum
Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation". They were trying their best to
encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to stop me!
Gyatso said there were and would be many impulsive young men like him
who might follow the path of self-immolation if the Dalai clique still
propagated "Tibet Independence" overseas through all means like films
and newspapers.
Unfortunately, what Gyatso had been concerned came true now. One after
another young people have set themselves on fire and lost their lives
under the incitation of the Dalai clique.
Gyatso once said that he wished to add one picture of burning fire in
his story. "I wish anyone who reads my story could feel the pain I
was suffering."
Now, both Gyatso and Thubten have been released from prison, and they
have already returned to normal life, giving people some release.
From the time he stole into India till now, it seems that Gyatso has
had a nightmare. Fortunately, he is still alive.
The story of Gyatso explains a fact that anyone could be controlled or
manipulated under a frenzy and irrational mind state. Maybe Gyatso's
words could make a perfect ending to the story: "it is just like a
dream. Fortunately, I still have the hope to start my new life."
Source: China Tibet Online
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Dalai Lama: Savior, or Selfish Jerk?
Posted on May 14, 2012 by Brian Dunning
Brian Dunning:
http://skeptoid.com/blog/2012/05/14/dalai-lama-savior-or-selfish-jerk/
So this week, the London bureau of CNN reported:
The Dalai Lama refused to answer a question Monday about whether
Tibetan monks should stop setting themselves on fire to protest
China's occupation of Tibet.
"No answer," he said, saying it was a sensitive political question
and that he had retired from politics.
What's going on is that Tibetan Buddhist monks have been killing
themselves via self-imolation, setting themselves on fire. It's about
the most horrific way to die imaginable.
The Dalai Lama - who has maintained his headquarters in India ever
since the 1959 escape from Chinese forces in Tibet - is today
basically a fundraiser. He is, in fact, probably the most successful
individual fundraiser in the world. His is the rallying cry of freeing
Tibet from Chinese occupation... so westerners seem to think.
All of the infrastructure that exists in Tibet was built by the
Chinese. Every paved road, every hospital, every school, and every
power plant (without exception) was built by the Chinese. Every single
paying job that exists in Tibet (without exception) was created by the
Chinese. Every literate native Tibetan (without exception) was
educated by the Chinese. The Chinese certainly have their faults, no
argument there; but the fact remains that Tibet exists as a nation of
free, working people only because of Chinese influence.
The Dalai Lama is keenly aware of that. His call is not for a "free
Tibet" as many westerners believe; it is for Tibet to be converted
from a Chinese Autonomous Region to a Chinese Special Administrative
Region, similar to Hong Kong. This difference would make not a single
practical difference to Tibetans; the only effect it would have would
be to allow the Dalai Lama and other exiled members of the ruling monk
class to return to their palace in Potala. It would ensure the
continued free flow of money from China to Tibet, and Tibet would
remain a part of China. There's not a thing wrong with the monks
returning to their palace, in my opinion. If ordinary Tibetans want
their traditional oppressors back in the palace as figureheads, great,
I'm all for it.
There's not a thing wrong with what the Dalai Lama campaigns for, or
with his fundraising - and here's where I want to be clear - so long
as he's honest about how the funds are going to be used. None of the
Dalai Lama's raised hundreds of millions of dollars that benefit
Tibetan citizens in the slightest. He gives most of it to unrelated
charities, and that's a fine thing; but his only prerogative in Tibet
is to get himself back to Potala. The Chinese already do everything
for the Tibetan citizenry; there is no work for the Dalai Lama to do
in that vein.
The rest of the money he raises go to his pet project: metaphysical
spirituality. In many ways, he's no different from Deepak Chopra;
except that instead of misstating quantum physics, he allows his
donors to misperceive his mission. The Dalai Lama is a highly
successful self-help and metaphysical author. He's written The Art of
Happiness: A Handbook for Living, How to Practice: The Way to a
Meaningful Life, How to See Yourself As You Really Are, The Dalai
Lama's Little Book of Inner Peace: The Essential Life and Teachings,
The Universe in a Single Atom: The Convergence of Science and
Spirituality (the most Deepak Chopra-like of his books), Becoming
Enlightened, Healing Anger: The Power of Patience from a Buddhist
Perspective, An Open Heart: Practicing Compassion in Everyday Life,
and dozens of others. He does not need your money.
There's nothing wrong with writing nonsensical metaphysical self-help
books, if that's what people want to buy. In fact, this week's news is
the only time I've had a real problem with the guy. And to me, it's a
big problem.
His followers are brutally killing themselves on his behalf, and his
only reaction is "No comment", followed by a lame excuse that he's
retired.
Why does he have no comment? Obviously, because his entire marketing
machine is driven by the perception that China's involvement in Tibet
is an atrocity. Every time a monk lights himself on fire, I guarantee
you that somewhere, the Dalai Lama's cash register's bell rings.
If asked for my comment on the deaths, 30 of them in the last year
alone, I'd say it's horrific and I wish they wouldn't do it, and
whoever is condoning it should be arrested. If I had influence over
them the way the Dalai Lama does, I'd have used the media opportunity
to appeal to all of them to stop doing that. Please. My return to
Potala is not worth your life.
Apparently, the Dalai Lama doesn't see it the way I do. For a
metaphysical self-help guru who wants you to find your inner peace and
happiness, his who-gives-a-shit reaction to his followers killing
themselves is pretty fucked up. Pardon my language, but swear words
are not nearly as atrocious as the Dalai Lama's "no comment". He might
as well have answered "Send me more money, and maybe they won't have
to keep doing that."
RMC = Ruling Monk Class
ORMC = Oppression from RMC
MCFA = Massive Chinese Financial Aid
XPLOS = Extreme Poverty from Lack of Support
RMCLIP = Ruling Monk Class Lives in Palace
ORMC MCFA XPLOS RMCLIP
What Tibet Used to Be: yes no yes yes
(ignored) province
What Tibet is Now" no yes no no
(Chinese Autonomous Region)
What the Dalai Lama Wants: not clear yes not clear yes
(Chinese Special Adminstrative Region like Hong Kong)
What Hollywood wants:
("Free Tibet") yes no yes yes
I've attached this infographic. No, I do not believe that Hollywood
celebrities and all the "Free Tibet" demonstrators want poverty and
oppression in Tibet; but if China's support was all suddenly pulled,
and every single Tibetan became unemployed and was forced to return to
serfdom, that's exactly what would happen, by necessity. Tibet has no
natural resources, no industries, and no economy whatsoever beyond
what China has imported. A free Tibet is a penniless Tibet, which is
why only those who know far less about the situation than the Dalai
Lama are demanding it.
2) Subject: After failed self-immolation, Tibetan [Dhondup says a lot
of things that show Da Lama's followers would be better off going with
the progressive Chinese society] - Tibetan Buddhism and the monks are
the cause of their demise!
This story illustrates sharply what the so-called Tibet problem is.
Anybody who follows Da Lama today is clearly unable to think.
This class of people just go by their beliefs - beliefs that the
Tibetan clergy spent centuries cultivating in the Tibetan masses'
minds. The people themselves were at the same time deprived of an
education and of an ability to think for themselves.
They believe in such harmful things as:
* After you die, you will reincarnate - so it's no big deal to live or
die.
* The center of the universe is Da Lama - so whatever he says or is
said to have said must be true.
* Education is not important - but you can still make a contribution
by burning yourself up in a painful death so that Da Lama would live
ten thousand years.
* Understanding your religious belief is not important, just as long
as you are free to prostrate before a larger-than-life color photo of
Da Lama - that means that you don't have to know what the original
Buddha taught and that means that you don't have to know that suicide
is just as unacceptable as killing a fly to a real buddhist.
As a result, the man in the following story that the Washington Post
is trying to glorify doesn't know "what consequences his action would
yield in his next life" but does "believe Tibet will be free during my
lifetime because of the Dalai Lama's leadership"; and he tried to kill
himself to let the world know that "Tibetans in Tibet are not alone in
their suffering" but "won't do it again but only because he doesn't
want to create trouble for the Dalai Lama".
Dawa Dhondup's story only strengthens the argument that the Tibetans
under Da Lama and his cohorts in exile are incompetent to have a
country even the size of Monaco to run, not to mention one-sixth of
China's current territory - except to have a bunch of western
investors/contractors to run their country to the ground.
If Da Lama's followers were educated and therefore could think for
themselves, then I or somebody else could explain to them why China
just can't afford to let their beliefs run China to the ground,
although they can and are invited to march forward together with the
rest of the Chinese people to achieve a more just, more prosperous,
more righteous, and more self-fulfilling future. And I would be able
to perhaps make them see that right now their efforts and sacrifices
are all for naught because Da Lama is being used by the West's
political organs for their geopolitical aims and are treating them
like yo-yos.
You see, Da Lama's ignorant followers in China can self-immolate 'til
kingdom cometh, and China will just stay its course viz. Tibet.
Anytime a country mentions human rights and freedom to China, China
will just patiently repeat its position on Tibet and its aim for the
Tibetan people (which is universal for all Chinese people). Also
China will not neglect to mention the self-immolation self-help manual
it has uncovered on the internet or the confession of young Gyatso:
The biggest difference in attitude towards Chinese government and
the so-called Tibetan government-in-exile on self-immolation issue
lies in whether they cherish young people's life, according to
Gyatso. "People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court,
and the prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you
cherish your own life since you are so young?" But life is
valueless for "Dusum Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation". They were
trying their best to encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to
stop me!
And regarding religious freedom, the following link tells us:
http://www.360doc.com/content/12/1218/12/363711_254750835.shtml
One of the most frequently mentioned by the Dalai Lama about the
true reasons behind self-immolations was "religious oppression" in
China.
However, the truth is religion freedom is protected according to the
Chinese Constitution. China has strived to improve the development
of Tibetan Buddhism. The efforts are so obvious that they could not
be hidden by the Dalai Lama's simple assumption.
What's more ironic is that Dalai Lama himself was once accused by
India for "religious oppression" because he prohibited the
communication between the believers of Gelug sects and other
religious sects in Tibetan Buddhism.
As the Tibet-Houses and Tibetan exiles in the West keep manipulating
the public opinion while the senior monks in monasteries in Dharamsala
and inside China keep manipulating the young and ignorant kinds to
commit their so-called "protest but not suicide" self-immolations for
Da Lama. (They are doing such a grotesque vaudeville act just so as
to paint a negative but false image of China - an act not for the
benefit of the Tibetans at large, who, they well know, are, if they
follow Da Lama, too uninformed and too trusting of that treacherous
man to know the truth, but only for the manipulators themselves.)
But China's progress engine will move forward, with or without those
Tibetans who choose to follow Da Lama. In the end, it will be those
Tibetans who remain alive, get an education, and get empowered who
will survive and prosper while Da Lama and his monks will vanish - a
just form of Darwinism, if you want to look at it that way.
Finally, notice that Dhondup was charged with the crime of "attempted
suicide" by the Indian police.
So why should China be criticized for its policy to crackdown on
self-immolation, especially those who are involved in encouraging such
acts? Also self-immolation is said to be "surprisingly common in
India". If so, why does the West's media only focuses its criticism
on China but not India? (Indeed, some 200 Indians self-immolated in
protest of a reform to weaken the caste system.)
Let's face it. a civilized society recognizes that attempting suicide
is a crime because it is harmful to society.
And we know that Tibetan monks from certain sects inside Tibet have
been actively pursuing a policy of persuading young, naive, and
uneducated Tibetans (and particularly orphans) to commit suicide to
support the statistics and sensationalism of the Free Tibet propaganda
campaign from outside China.
It is not about religious freedom or human rights and China has no
choice but to stick to its policy to protect the society. (And
anyway, in a Tibet ruled by Da Lama, see how much religious freedom
say a Baptist minister might get.)
For this reason, despite the 22 US senators' letter and despite HRW's
Sophie Richardson and other Free Tibet mouthpieces' vocal urging of
Secretary of State John Kelley to speak out on the Tibetan issue, he
said nothing during his visit to China to any of the host country's
officials. And the State Department waited for him to clear out of
China before issuing a lip-service call to China to talk to Da Lama,
someone China sees as a traitor and the same person who has not told
his ignorant followers that self-immolation is suicide and is against
Buddhism.
Da Lama has condemned himself. But worse, his continuing presence in
the Tibetan struggle has also doomed the prospects of that struggle.
lo yeeOn
1) Young Gyatso's moving confession - the culture of life versus the
culture of death
Behind the scenes of Tibetan's self-immolation
2013-01-24 07:38:36 GMT2013-01-24 15:38:36(Beijing Time) SINA.com
http://english.sina.com/china/2013/0123/552928.html
Editor's note: From a young monk who just wanted to learn "tsema" from
a learned master, to get involved in the "Tibet independence"
propaganda, then to earn money through participating in hunger strike
activities to enrich his experience, to a chosen potential
self-immolator, Gyatso was ignorant and had no time and consciousness
to think about the deep consequences and reasons behind what had
happened to him.
His simple mind and impulse had become the weakness used by Tibet
organization. Like many other Tibetan young men, Gyaso was an
enthusiastic and devout boy who had not formed his own mature view of
the world.
After having committed two failed self-immolations, Gyatso gradually
calmed down and developed a fear for his future. However, then he
hadn't come out of the crazy state as he had turned into a fanatic of
self-immolation from a young lama who once dreamed of "sacrifice
himself to religion".
A few days after the two failed self-immolation plans, Lhamo Ja found
Gyatso again, and told him that he had brought a good news, saying he
had received an instruction from Ala Jigme, a senior official from the
"Dusum Legong" (or the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"), that Gyatso would be sent to Tibet to commit
self-immolation so as to create a "bigger" influence.
After hearing the words, Gyatso hesitated and was reluctant to go back
to Tibet as he had broken the law when he stole into India, and he
would not know what to do if he were arrested.
Lhamo Ja was a little upset about Gyatso's attitude. However, he could
do nothing but to invite several big names to encourage Gyatso.
One night, Gyatso was received by "Dusum Legong" Kalon, a senior
officer of the Security Department of the "Tibetan
government-in-exile". It was the first time for Gyatso to meet such
an "important person" since he had been in India.
At that time, Gyatso had a complicated feeling as he finally met
somebody thus he was determined to sacrifice for the 6 million Tibetan
people.
The officer, named Kalon Pema told you are chosen to conduct the
self-immolation in Lhasa, a place under the control of the Chinese
Central Government. Then it would be China's responsibility to explain
your fight for the cause of "Tibet independence". In this way we can
get the universal attention and support of the international
community, and you yourself can also become a hero admired by the
Tibetan people.
Kalon Pema told Gyatso that his family members or friends who sent his
self-immolation videotapes or pictures to India could get preferential
treatment and could be sent to abroad for further studying. "However,
if you are arrested, you shouldn't say anything about us or it will
bring bad influence to the "Tibetan government-in-exile. And you could
not come back if you didn't conduct self-immolation," said Kalon Pema.
Gyatso felt very angry about what Kalon Pema had told him, because in
his mind, he was to sacrifice for the cause of "Tibet independence".
How could he bring bad international influence to the "Tibetan
government-in-exile"?
However Gyatso held his own idea that the 14th Dalai Lama supported
him, so the "Tibetan government-in-exile" would not abandon him. He
obeyed their order.
In order to avoid exposing the meeting between "Dusum Legong" and
Gyatso, they decided to send Gyatso to Nepal.
In Nepal, Gyatso was given 400,000 Cordoba (about 8,040 $) to steal
back to Tibet with another name.
He went to Lhasa with a man named Thubten, who was also appointed by
the "Dusum Legong" and asked to shoot the scene when Gyatso committed
self-immolation.
However, after all the careful "preparations", Gyatso and his allies
were arrested before they arrived in Lhasa. Gyatso was brought to the
police station as he was extremely nervous and didn't have any
certificate.
What kind of penalty will Gyatso face after being arrested? Will
Thubten be brought to justice? Gyatso, the young lama who had been
wandering between life and death was neither the first nor the last
misguided fanatic who were controlled by their own irrational impulses
or certain people with ulterior motives.
The question of how to guide the young people to avoid the tragedies
occurring again must be answered.
Gyatso was brought to the police station and he was extremely nervous
as he didn't have ID. Later, he was found illegal entry. However, at
that time the police didn't know that he planned to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa.
At first, Gyatso didn't reveal anything about self-immolation, so he
began to fabricate stories to confuse the police. But his word was too
inconsistent, and even he himself was not convinced.
Gyatso once had a delusion that Thubten might come back to save
him. He was afraid to mention the connection with Thubten for fear of
revenge. But Gyatso finally confessed everything after he had known
that Thubten was also arrested.
During the trial, Gyatso admitted that he was sent to commit
self-immolation in Lhasa by the "Dusum Legong" (or the Security
Department of the "Tibetan government-in-exile"). To be honest, I did
not really want to die. I felt relieved when I heard that I was
sentenced to eight years.
At present, Gyatso said that his biggest wish was to live a new life
after being released as early as possible.
The biggest difference in attitude towards Chinese government and the
so-called Tibetan government-in-exile on self-immolation issue lies in
whether they cherish young people's life, according to Gyatso.
"People here from the Public Security Bureau, the court, and the
prison all asked me one same question "why didn't you cherish your own
life since you are so young?" But life is valueless for "Dusum
Legong" and the "Sanqu Assiciation". They were trying their best to
encourage me to conduct self-immolation, not to stop me!
Gyatso said there were and would be many impulsive young men like him
who might follow the path of self-immolation if the Dalai clique still
propagated "Tibet Independence" overseas through all means like films
and newspapers.
Unfortunately, what Gyatso had been concerned came true now. One after
another young people have set themselves on fire and lost their lives
under the incitation of the Dalai clique.
Gyatso once said that he wished to add one picture of burning fire in
his story. "I wish anyone who reads my story could feel the pain I
was suffering."
Now, both Gyatso and Thubten have been released from prison, and they
have already returned to normal life, giving people some release.
From the time he stole into India till now, it seems that Gyatso has
had a nightmare. Fortunately, he is still alive.
The story of Gyatso explains a fact that anyone could be controlled or
manipulated under a frenzy and irrational mind state. Maybe Gyatso's
words could make a perfect ending to the story: "it is just like a
dream. Fortunately, I still have the hope to start my new life."
Source: China Tibet Online
2a) China uncovered a self-taught self-immolation manual on internet
China and Tibet
http://www.economist.com/news/letters/21576051-climate-change-north-korea-tibet-india-cyprus-egypt-tax-avoidance-europe
Sir - Regarding the self-immolations of Tibetans ("The limits of
despair", March 9th), our hearts go out to the families and we
sincerely hope that similar incidents never happen again. But ever
since the first self-immolation, the Dalai Lama has never uttered a
single word to stop similar incidents from happening. Recently, the
Dalai clique put forward "A Guidance to Self-immolation" on the
internet, instigating Tibetans inside or outside of China to
"implement self-immolation in accordance with the plan and procedure."
After each and every incident of self-immolation, the Dalai clique is
instantly able to provide the media with video footages, photos and
detailed information.
At the end of 2012, the police bureaus in Sichuan, Qinhai and Guansu
provinces uncovered a handful of cases involving incited or forced
self-immolations. Ample facts prove that these incidents were
masterminded behind the scenes.
Over the past 60 years since the peaceful liberation of Tibet, and
especially since 1978, the central government has implemented policy
measures to boost the economy, improve living standards, protect the
traditional culture and safeguard the freedom of religion in Tibet.
Its economy and society have undergone huge improvements. The
population jumped from 1.2m in 1959 to 3m at the end of 2011, 91% of
whom are ethnic Tibetans. Today there are 1,700 religious sites of all
kinds.
The central government has always supported the study of Tibetan
language. A teaching system using both Tibetan and mandarin with
Tibetan as the principal language has already been put into practice
in all areas. Tibetan has become the first ever ethnic language with
international coding standard and can thus be processed by the
computer system.
He Rulong
Spokesperson of the Chinese embassy
London
2b) My earlier comments in these newsgroups on the news that China has
uncovered a self-immolation guide on the internet allegedly authored
by Lhamo Je, a senior member of the Dalai Lama clique's "education
system".
Breaking, Breaking: Da Lama got caught with his pants on fire!
Details of a "Self-immolation Guide" posted on the Internet - the
Guide is an indictment of the desperate and fascist tactics of the
TGIE and its "Free Tibet" zealots.
But if you're unwilling to self-immolate yourselves, please stop the
folly of glorifying self-immolation and sacrificing others.
Also, the demand (from the Prime Minister of the unelected government
in exile) that if you are a Tibetan, then you should do nothing except
to practice religious rituals over the long Losar holidays is nothing
but religious dictatorship! It does not only go against the ideal of
separation of church and state that the West espouses, but also
against the principle of individual choice and freedom.
I don't care how many Tibetans in China want to have Da Lama back to
rule over them and keep them in the Dark Ages.
If the system these exiles are working to bring back to Tibet means
you must worship its god king Da Lama, then it is not a system I want
to see returning to Tibet.
The centuries of suffering the Tibetan people went through because the
devious and deceitful lamas had the free hand to enslave the masses
are mercifully in the past. Now, it seems that most of the desire for
restoring the dark rules of the Tibetan Ages has come only from the
exiles and the few monasteries inside China these exiles have remnants
of influence over; so in fact, Da Lama does not seem to have as many
Tibetans in China as the TGIE and the "Free Tibet" zealots as well as
their western supporters have claimed.
If these deceitful lamas are telling the self-immolation candidates
that they would be buddhas if they sacrifice their own lives for a
"Free Tibet", then Da Lama should lead the way, since for one thing,
he will by his own teaching reincarnate as Da Lama when he dies. So
it is an absolute win-win action to take. All the "Free Tibet" crowd
should follow Da Lama and sacrifice their own lives for a "Free Tibet"
to become buddhas.
One thing they should not be allowed to do is to sacrifice children
inside China while Da Lama continues to sit on his fat ass and gossip
about his friendship with this or that celebrity. Da Lama should be
leading the way to this last struggle the exiles want.
Finally, I should mention that the Indian police were doing a good job
saving the life of someone who was about to ignite himself into flames
- images the TGIE and "Free Tibet" zealots could use - with his body
as well as stomach filled with flammable fluid, as the exiles were
staging a protest in Dharamsala to commemorate the CIA-engineered
rebellion in Tibet decades ago that resulted in driving Da Lama into
permanent exile.
It must not be fun to have all that poison filling up your stomach.
But at least he will live!
And he should realize that the lamas and zealots in exiles are
deceitful and the goal of a "Free Tibet" is not even compatible with
the position Da Lama and TGIE have long taken under their "Middle Way"
banner. I recall reading a Canadian newspaper editorial saying that
it is one thing for Canada to support more human rights in Tibet, it
is another for Canada to wade into the morass of supporting Tibet
Independence, which is what the zealots want and what they want the
Tibetans in China to sacrifice their lives for. Too bad those who
burned themselves were so poorly informed that they did not realize
that Da Lama holds a different official position from the position
they were instructed to advocate, at the moment prior to their painful
deaths. Too damn bad that these innocent lives were manipulated into
extinction by the heartless and deceitful exiles.
lo yeeOn
'Self-immolation Guide': desperate insanity of the Dalai clique
Updated: 2013-03-08 07:07
By Yi Duo (China Daily)
http://usa.chinadaily.com.cn/opinion/2013-03/08/content_16290357.htm
A video clip from a recent China Central Television program of the
"Self-immolation Guide" posted on the Internet. The alleged author is
Lhamo Je, a senior member of the Dalai Lama clique's "education
system". File Photo
Editor's note: China Tibet Online, a multi-language media website
dedicated to providing news stories on Tibetans living in China, has
recently published a bylined opinion article on the "Self-immolation
Guide" produced by the Dalai Lama clique. Following is the full text
of the article published by Xinhua News Agency:
Recently, the Dalai clique published a "Self-immolation Guide" on the
Internet, openly inciting Tibetans within the Chinese border to "carry
out self-immolations according to the plan and procedures."
The "Self-immolation Guide" demonstrates a sober attitude in scheming
and arranging the cruel actions of self-immolations, which makes it
stand out among the many propaganda of the Dalai clique, and thus soon
get intensive spotlight.
The book is published in the name of one person only for the "Tibetan
government-in-exile" to avoid public condemnation toward its overt
manipulation of self-immolations. The alleged author of the
"Instructions" is Lhamo Je, who had been a "member of parliament" for
two terms in the "parliament" of the Dalai clique and now still has an
important position in its "educational system."
The "guide" consists of four parts. The first part is an ideological
mobilization which advocates the idea that self-immolators are "great
and honorable fearless heroes" and that "both male and female heroes"
should be ready at all times to sacrifice for the "just cause."
The second part gives detailed instruction on the "self-immolation
preparation," including "picking important days and places," "leaving
written or recorded last words," and "asking a couple of trustworthy
people to help record videos and take photos."
The third part introduces "self-immolation slogans" and instructs the
self-immolators to shout "Free Tibet, let the Dalai Lama return to
Tibet, and release political prisoners" and so forth, and asks them to
print out the slogans into leaflets to scatter them on the spot so as
to increase the impact.
The fourth part illustrates "other non-violent activities" such as
"shouting loudly the campaign slogans at schools and other populated
places," "making public speeches," and "filing petitions to the
central government," and points out that "it is very important to
launch various activities in political, economic, religious and
cultural fields."
No matter from which perspective, this "Self-immolation Guide" can yet
be regarded as "a remarkable piece of writing," not only for its
advocacy for destruction of human life in absolute violation against
law and Buddhist teachings, but for that it is tantamount to a
"confession" of the Dalai clique which has committed the crime of
manipulating self-immolations.
As the head of the "Tibetan government-in-exile" Lobsang Sangay has
asked the Chinese government to show evidence of the Dalai clique's
manipulation of the self-immolations, and "welcome" the Chinese
government to send groups to Dharamsala to search for evidence, they
have now made public the evidence by themselves.
The reliability of the evidence lies not only in the source of the
writer, a senior official of the Dalai clique, but also in the
confirmation of every item of the contents listed by previous
self-immolations.
In fact, almost every self-burning happened just like what the "guide"
had planned some people videotaping the scene, some people shouting
separatist slogans, inciting and gathering others to stop the
government from taking rescue actions.
Sometimes the Dalai clique was able to hype the burning cases with
photos and personal data of the self-immolators obtained only dozens
of minutes after the incidents.
The contents of the "last words" shouted by some self-immolators are
exactly the same as in the "guide."
According to Lorang Konchok, who has pleaded guilty of intentional
homicide, he acted on the instructions of the Dalai clique to make use
of his status and influence in the temple, and incited, instigated and
coerced others to burn themselves with the help of his nephew.
Before the self-burning happened, Lorang Konchok recorded the
individual and family information of the self-immolators and took
photos for them. Once the self-immolation was committed, he sent the
information immediately to the Dalai clique via a cell phone.
The "guide" aims to _standardize and systematize the self-immolation
behavior so as to manipulate it like an assembly line in the future_,
and reach the goal to be _more efficient_ as set down by the Dalai
Lama.
The "guide" also gives a slap in the face to some Western forces. In
order to contain and split China, for many years these forces have set
the Dalai Lama as a "non-violent" model that represents struggle.
After the self-immolation incidents, they completely disregarded the
facts, denied the crimes committed by the Dalai clique, and accused
the policy made by the Chinese government of causing the
self-immolations. Furthermore, they even showed sympathy for and
"concern" to those criminals who have been sentenced to jail in line
with Chinese law to encourage the self-immolation manipulators.
The publication of the "guide," which openly admitted the crime of the
Dalai clique's inciting and scheming self-immolations, its political
motivations as well as its future plans for continued manipulations,
has not saved the faces of his Western masters.
Why did the Dalai clique publish the "Self-immolation Guide" at this
moment? The reason is that the extremists among them feel desperate.
According to the Canadian Sing Tao Daily, the Dalai clique once
instructed his followers earnestly and tirelessly, "Suppose we resort
to arms to achieve our objective, we need guns and ammunition in the
first place, but who will sell them to us? If we find the seller,
where can we get the money? Even if we have money and get guns, how
can these guns be transported to China and through which country's
border? The CIA once air-lifted guns for us, which happened in the
past and will never happen again."
The Dalai clique drew a lesson from its own failures: That seeking
"Tibet independence" through violent activities publicly did not work,
and it is better to adopt the "Middle-way Approach," which can deceive
the world and seek "Tibet independence" indirectly. However, this
political plot has not made any progress since its existence, and even
the channel of contact and talk with the central government was
blocked by themselves.
Up to now, the scheme of manipulating self-immolations has been worked
out by racking their brains as "the highest form of non-violent
struggle," which will be doomed. All of these make some extremists
more and more impatient, so they had to publish the "guide," hoping
this wicked fire can make some "achievements" before it extinguishes.
Another reason for the publication of the "guide" is that
self-immolations have not achieved the effect in the international
community as the Dalai clique had expected. Even if some Western
powers always support the Dalai clique, they dare not take such a huge
risk of losing political reputation or moral legality to openly
support manipulating self-immolations, which is a disguised form of
violence and terrorism.
The head of the "government-in-exile" lamented, "There was a
self-immolation in Tunisia which was labeled the catalyst for the Arab
Spring. How come we have been given less support than what we
witnessed in the Arab world?" reported the New York Times on Feb. 3.
A comment from the Chinese News Net revealed the truth, "In fact, the
self-immolations of Tibetans have rarely received support from the
international community."
It is hard to imagine that how the international community can support
such brutal and inhumane acts. The Chinese government does not create
conditions to encourage Tibetans to self-immolate. Hence it cannot be
condemned.
Western countries all understand the background of self-immolations,
so they are already doing the "Tibetan government-in-exile" a big
favor by not condemning them.
The Dalai clique attempted to prompt more self-immolations through
publishing the "guide" in order to beg for more international
compassion. This act has actually made the international community
recognize the ferocity and insanity of the Dalai clique clearly, and
urged some Western powers to hold back when supporting the Dalai
clique.
The "guide" published by the Dalai clique was an attempt in political
blackmail, against the Chinese government, but it turned out to be in
vain.
If plotting "Tibet independence" failed in 1959 through the military
confrontation and armed rebellion, how will it be possible by inciting
several poor people to burn themselves?
As a matter of fact, through the joint efforts of all levels of local
governments at the spots of the incidents, the frequency of
self-immolations has been curbed and the evidence of the Dalai
clique's role in manipulating such acts has been made clear. Many
criminals, whose acts are detested by the local people, have been
brought to justice.
All of these fully show the unpopularity of the Dalai clique in China
and the popularity of the Chinese government. The government will win
the battle of anti-self-immolation as long as it does not hold
unrealistic hopes from the Dalai clique, nor expects some Western
forces to be kind, but keep the situation under control on the basis
of its own work.
The Dalai clique's fantasy that every self-immolation will exert some
pressure on the Chinese government will be highly counter-productive.
On the contrary, every self-immolation case that occurred was an
additional bloody crime the Dalai clique committed on its own ethnic
Tibetans.
Some people from the clique including the plotters of the
"Self-immolation Guide" told the public repeatedly that
self-immolation is a kind of "peaceful protest" and expected to get
the same attention as the vendors in Tunisia. Then please teach
yourselves by following the guide first if you believe it is a good
idea to die, like what the netizens have called for. If you dare not
burn yourselves, please stop the folly as early as possible.
Just as Lu Xun, a famous Chinese writer, said that people who are
alive themselves have no right to persuade others to die. Nor do those
with the Dalai clique.
In article <8098749.pzBaqtTfBC@Dharma>,
Peter Terpstra <peter.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>After failed self-immolation, Tibetan says "I won't repeat it"
>
>By Vishal Arora| Religion News Service,
>
>DHARAMSALA, India - After more than 100 Tibetans have set themselves
>on fire, a man who tried and failed says he "won't do it again" but
>only because he doesn't want to create trouble for the Dalai Lama.
>
>"I won't try to burn myself again," said the 30-year-old survivor
>Dawa Dhondup, a shy and soft-spoken man in Dharamsala, the Himalayan
>seat of the Dalai Lama's government-in-exile in northern India.
>
>Dhondup drank kerosene and poured it all over his body before
>hundreds of Tibetans at a March 10 procession here to mark the
>anniversary of a failed 1959 uprising against Chinese rule. As he was
>about to light a match, fellow Tibetans and police overpowered him.
>
>He has spent the last month undergoing treatment for the kerosene
>poisoning, and recently started a job as a cook at a Tibetan school.
>
>Dhondup said he wanted to show solidarity with the 115 Tibetans who
>have self-immolated inside Tibet to protest Chinese rule and call for
>restoration of freedom and the return of the Dalai Lama.
>
>While he doesn't regret his actions, he regrets any headaches he
>caused for the Dalai Lama in his adopted home city. It was the first
>time a Tibetan had tried to self-immolate near the Dalai Lama's
>headquarters.
>
>Local police charged Dhondup with attempted suicide, and warned local
>Tibetans they could face restrictions if they tried to demonstrate on
>his behalf or otherwise cause trouble. A local Tibetan Youth Congress
>leader, Tenzin Tsundue, gave a written promise that no Tibetans in
>Dharamsala would attempt a similar act.
>
>The attempted suicide raised concerns with the Indian government
>because China has accused the Dalai Lama of inciting monks and nuns
>inside Tibet to set themselves ablaze. New Delhi often uses the
>presence of the Dalai Lama and the Tibetan government-in-exile as
>leverage with China, but generally avoids provoking the ire of
>Beijing.
>
>Dhondup, who walked for five days from his home in southern Tibet to
>India at age 18, said he was deeply disturbed by the criticism that
>the recent spate of self-immolations have failed to bring change in
>China's Tibet policy.
>
>"I wanted the world to know Tibetans in Tibet are not alone in their
>suffering," he said.
>
>A Buddhist and believer in reincarnation, Dhondup said he didn't know
>what consequences his action would yield in his next life. "Since
>I'm not educated, I had no other way to contribute; that's all I
>thought of."
>
>He added that he wasn't afraid of a painful death, nor was he devoid
>of hope.
>
>"I believe Tibet will be free during my lifetime because of the Dalai
>Lama's leadership," he said. "But there's no freedom in Tibet right
>now, and I wanted to do something about it. I won't repeat it
>though."
>
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>
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So this week, the London bureau of CNN reported:
The Dalai Lama refused to answer a question Monday about whether
Tibetan monks should stop setting themselves on fire to protest
China's occupation of Tibet.
"No answer," he said, saying it was a sensitive political question
and that he had retired from politics.
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The Dalai Lama refused to answer a question Monday about whether
Tibetan monks should stop setting themselves on fire to protest
China's occupation of Tibet.
"No answer," he said, saying it was a sensitive political question
and that he had retired from politics.
to the bank, leaving his followers prostrating in the dust.
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